• Blocktober!

    From jack phlash@46:1/145 to All on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:41:57
    Blocktronics is back with a Halloween treat. A new pack filled with sweet ANSI goodies sure to rot your terminals.

    http://pc.textmod.es/pack/blocktronics_blocktober/

    Enjoy!

    |08j |15A C K |08p |15H L A S H |08!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Windows)
    * Origin: d i s t o r t i o n // d1st.org (46:1/145)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to jack phlash on Tuesday, November 01, 2016 14:14:19
    On 11/01/16, jack phlash said the following...

    Blocktronics is back with a Halloween treat. A new pack filled with
    sweet ANSI goodies sure to rot your terminals.

    http://pc.textmod.es/pack/blocktronics_blocktober/

    Awsome stuff. My only regret is that many of the pieces are not sized for
    BBS viewing. Many of the pieces are wider than 80 columns. It makes for
    less than appealing viewing.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Gryphon on Wednesday, November 02, 2016 13:17:08
    on 11/01/16, Gryphon said...

    Awsome stuff. My only regret is that many of the pieces are not sized
    for BBS viewing. Many of the pieces are wider than 80 columns. It
    makes for less than appealing viewing.

    For better or for worse many art scene guys have always been more about creating great and/or respectable art than catering to the BBS world. That's especially true nowadays - a lot of the best guys in Blocktronics are true artists, and want to push the envelope to different and new tecnhologies and styles. Wide BINs, although more rare than they are now, have been one way to do that for ages. It's not practical at all, but it definitely packs a "wow, this is text mode?!' wallop. You can say the same thing about using
    alternative fonts, iCE colors, 24 bit ANSIs, and Xbins/ADFs/TFXs. RIP and even VGA had the same cache back in the day.

    Personally, as a SysOp, modder, and coder in the 90s, it frusted me to no end that so much otherwise great art scene output wasn't geared to being used for practical purposes, but that was a battle I never had any luck with
    fighting amongst my art scene friends and peers... :) My main recourse is personally making sure as much of my own limited art output is done for
    actual active BBSes and other projects, especially those in desperate need,
    as possible. Unfortunately I do feel like a little bit of an art whore when I scan the BBS Ads sub here and see like 5 of my ASCIIs in a row... but hey,
    it's for the greater good! ;)

    |08j |15A C K |08p |15H L A S H |08!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Windows)
    * Origin: d i s t o r t i o n // d1st.org (46:1/145)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to jack phlash on Wednesday, November 02, 2016 13:12:03
    On 11/02/16, jack phlash said the following...

    on 11/01/16, Gryphon said...

    Awsome stuff. My only regret is that many of the pieces are not size for BBS viewing. Many of the pieces are wider than 80 columns. It makes for less than appealing viewing.

    For better or for worse many art scene guys have always been more about creating great and/or respectable art than catering to the BBS world. That's especially true nowadays - a lot of the best guys in Blocktronics are true artists, and want to push the envelope to different and new tecnhologies and styles. Wide BINs, although more rare than they are
    now, have been one way to do that for ages. It's not practical at all,
    but it definitely packs a "wow, this is text mode?!' wallop. You can say the same thing about using alternative fonts, iCE colors, 24 bit ANSIs, and Xbins/ADFs/TFXs. RIP and even VGA had the same cache back in the
    day.

    I can agree with you... up to a point. Considering that there seems to be
    only one app in existence that can display ANSI files that are greater than
    80 chars wide, they have severely limited their ability to have their work seen. If their audience doesn't have PabloDraw, then they aren't going to
    get their pieces viewed.

    Personally, as a SysOp, modder, and coder in the 90s, it frusted me to
    no end that so much otherwise great art scene output wasn't geared to being used for practical purposes, but that was a battle I never had any luck with fighting amongst my art scene friends and peers... :) My main recourse is personally making sure as much of my own limited art output
    is done for actual active BBSes and other projects, especially those in desperate need, as possible. Unfortunately I do feel like a little bit
    of an art whore when I scan the BBS Ads sub here and see like 5 of my ASCIIs in a row... but hey, it's for the greater good! ;)

    Yeah, I know what thats like, when I see my mpl's and apps being used on a
    BBS. But that's why I put them out there, right?

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From Caphood@46:1/104 to Gryphon on Wednesday, November 02, 2016 14:58:18
    Awsome stuff. My only regret is that many of the pieces are not sized
    for BBS viewing. Many of the pieces are wider than 80 columns. It
    makes for less than appealing viewing.

    Just remember if you add the Blocktober or any art packs as full folders
    to your Mystic Art Gallery to omit the high res or rip screens or anything
    else that may display shitty. Don't just dump everything in there - go
    through it and weed out the pieces that dont play nice. Then fire up the
    gallery and see if you have any screen tearing anomaly going on in any of
    the screens. It usually will be a long screen in 80 columns. If you have the
    skills in PabloDraw or ACiDDraw erase everything on column 80 and save. That
    should take care of it. Most advanced sysops are well aware of this technique
    but there are some that may find this info helpful.

    ▓▀▒▀░ {tHE.pIRATE.kING} ▄▀█▀▄
    ▀▓▄░▀ HOIST THE COLOURS ▀█▄█▀
    ■■■ NEVER SHALL WE DIE. ▌▌▐

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
    * Origin: ACiD Telnet HQ / blackflag.acid.org (46:1/104)
  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Gryphon on Thursday, November 03, 2016 08:38:26
    on 11/02/16, Gryphon said...

    I can agree with you... up to a point. Considering that there seems to
    be only one app in existence that can display ANSI files that are
    greater than 80 chars wide, they have severely limited their ability to have their work seen. If their audience doesn't have PabloDraw, then
    they aren't going to get their pieces viewed.

    Art for many "true artists" (to quote myself) is all about that creative
    energy release, the self expression. At some point regard for how it is consumed by others goes completely out of the window. That's one of the
    reasons so many artists are starving, right? And when it comes to the art
    scene it's not like there's much incentive to try to appeal to potential buyers. Most of these guys are drawing for themselves and their fellow
    artists with little regard to anyone else who might be viewing it.

    I realize that isn't in any way a real defense to what you're saying, I actually agree with you, but at the same time I understand and relate to the mindset.

    |08j |15A C K |08p |15H L A S H |08!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Windows)
    * Origin: d i s t o r t i o n // d1st.org (46:1/145)
  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Caphood on Thursday, November 03, 2016 08:41:09
    on 11/02/16, Caphood said...

    Just remember if you add the Blocktober or any art packs as full folders
    to your Mystic Art Gallery to omit the high res or rip screens or anything else that may display shitty. Don't just dump everything in
    there - go through it and weed out the pieces that dont play nice. Then fire up the gallery and see if you have any screen tearing anomaly going on in any of the screens. It usually will be a long screen in 80
    columns. If you have the skills in PabloDraw or ACiDDraw erase
    everything on column 80 and save. That should take care of it. Most advanced sysops are well aware of this technique but there are some that may find this info helpful.

    I think you misinterpreted - he is actually referring more to .BINs with over 80 columns than ANSIs that go to the 80th column.

    |08j |15A C K |08p |15H L A S H |08!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Windows)
    * Origin: d i s t o r t i o n // d1st.org (46:1/145)
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to jack phlash on Thursday, November 03, 2016 08:16:04
    Hello jack,

    On 03 Nov 16 08:41, jack phlash wrote to Caphood:

    to your Mystic Art Gallery to omit the high res or rip screens
    or anything else that may display shitty. Don't just dump
    everything in there - go through it and weed out the pieces that
    dont play nice. Then fire up the gallery and see if you have any
    screen tearing anomaly going on in any of the screens. It usually
    will be a long screen in 80 columns. If you have the skills in
    PabloDraw or ACiDDraw erase everything on column 80 and save.
    That should take care of it. Most advanced sysops are well aware
    of this technique but there are some that may find this info
    helpful.

    I think you misinterpreted - he is actually referring more to .BINs
    with over 80 columns than ANSIs that go to the 80th column.

    This topic made me think about something.

    Someone (Gryphon maybe?) made a mod for Mystic I believe, that let's you pick how you want your ansi displayed (ie: top/down, left/right, diagonal, etc.. kinda like the way you can save different display methods in the old TheDraw.

    If this could somehow be utilized to be able to view .BINs, that would be fraggin' awesome!

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Caphood on Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:54:03
    On 11/02/16, Caphood said the following...

    Awsome stuff. My only regret is that many of the pieces are not size for BBS viewing. Many of the pieces are wider than 80 columns. It makes for less than appealing viewing.

    Just remember if you add the Blocktober or any art packs as full folders
    to your Mystic Art Gallery to omit the high res or rip screens or anything else that may display shitty. Don't just dump everything in
    there - go through it and weed out the pieces that dont play nice. Then

    FWIW, I have started keeping the high-res items in the gallery too. My
    gallery directories are linked in my website, so I can actually click on the high rez jpg or whatever, and have it be displayed.

    I use ansilove on my website to display the ansis in my gallery folder. But
    it defaults to 80 columns. So even the wide ansis don't get displayed correctly that way. I would have to add some sort of logic to the website to be able to determine the width, and then be able to pass it to ansilove. My skills aren't up to par for that just yet.

    fire up the gallery and see if you have any screen tearing anomaly going on in any of the screens. It usually will be a long screen in 80
    columns. If you have the skills in PabloDraw or ACiDDraw erase
    everything on column 80 and save. That should take care of it. Most advanced sysops are well aware of this technique but there are some that may find this info helpful.

    Part of my issue is that I do most of my development on a Raspberry Pi ARM device. I have not been able to get 'mono PabloDraw.exe' to work yet. Mono keeps giving me an error that I can't seem to fix.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Gryphon on Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:46:34
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 03 Nov 16 10:54, Gryphon wrote to Caphood:

    Part of my issue is that I do most of my development on a Raspberry Pi
    ARM device. I have not been able to get 'mono PabloDraw.exe' to work
    yet. Mono keeps giving me an error that I can't seem to fix.

    I seem to remember there being one more dependency along with mono (gtk-sharp).
    Do you have that installed as well?

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Accession on Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:59:55
    On 11/03/16, Accession said the following...

    Hello jack,

    On 03 Nov 16 08:41, jack phlash wrote to Caphood:

    to your Mystic Art Gallery to omit the high res or rip screens
    or anything else that may display shitty. Don't just dump
    everything in there - go through it and weed out the pieces that
    dont play nice. Then fire up the gallery and see if you have any
    screen tearing anomaly going on in any of the screens. It usually
    will be a long screen in 80 columns. If you have the skills in
    PabloDraw or ACiDDraw erase everything on column 80 and save.
    That should take care of it. Most advanced sysops are well aware
    of this technique but there are some that may find this info
    helpful.

    I think you misinterpreted - he is actually referring more to .BINs with over 80 columns than ANSIs that go to the 80th column.

    This topic made me think about something.

    Someone (Gryphon maybe?) made a mod for Mystic I believe, that let's you pick how you want your ansi displayed (ie: top/down, left/right,
    diagonal, etc.. kinda like the way you can save different display
    methods in the old TheDraw.

    If this could somehow be utilized to be able to view .BINs, that would be fraggin' awesome!


    Yes, that was me. I did make a mystic app for that. It does not read bin files tho :(

    But for wid ansi's, the problem remains the same. For my app to work, it has to take a snapshot of the ansi in 80x25 format. For this to work on wide format ansis, each part of the original ansi needs to be saved in a separate file in 80x25 format. Then it would be possible to do a sliding from one ansi to the next. One other downfall for this method is that it can't be viewed in the Mystic gallery.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Accession on Thursday, November 03, 2016 21:13:50
    On 11/03/16, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 03 Nov 16 10:54, Gryphon wrote to Caphood:

    Part of my issue is that I do most of my development on a Raspberry P ARM device. I have not been able to get 'mono PabloDraw.exe' to work yet. Mono keeps giving me an error that I can't seem to fix.

    I seem to remember there being one more dependency along with mono (gtk-sharp). Do you have that installed as well?

    I don't remember installing it, but I just tried. It says that gtk-sharp2 is already installed :(

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Gryphon on Friday, November 04, 2016 07:28:47
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 03 Nov 16 10:59, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    Someone (Gryphon maybe?) made a mod for Mystic I believe, that
    let's you pick how you want your ansi displayed (ie: top/down,
    left/right, diagonal, etc.. kinda like the way you can save
    different display methods in the old TheDraw.

    If this could somehow be utilized to be able to view .BINs, that
    would be fraggin' awesome!

    Yes, that was me. I did make a mystic app for that. It does not read
    bin files tho :(

    But for wid ansi's, the problem remains the same. For my app to work,
    it has to take a snapshot of the ansi in 80x25 format. For this to
    work on wide format ansis, each part of the original ansi needs to be saved in a separate file in 80x25 format. Then it would be possible
    to do a sliding from one ansi to the next. One other downfall for
    this method is that it can't be viewed in the Mystic gallery.

    Maybe when James comes back around we (or he) can figure out a way to do this with ease. It would be nice to at the very least be able to view them on a BBS through the gallery.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Gryphon on Friday, November 04, 2016 07:39:14
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 03 Nov 16 21:13, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    I seem to remember there being one more dependency along with
    mono (gtk-sharp). Do you have that installed as well?

    I don't remember installing it, but I just tried. It says that
    gtk-sharp2 is already installed :(

    That's a bummer. Especially with my Pi3 being delivered later today! :)

    BTW, have you by chance gotten a 64bit distro installed on there yet? I see they seem to be falling behind on the Pi, whereas ArchARM is indeed already available for the ODROID-C2. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)
  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Accession on Friday, November 04, 2016 13:28:31
    On 11/04/16, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 03 Nov 16 21:13, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    I seem to remember there being one more dependency along with
    mono (gtk-sharp). Do you have that installed as well?

    I don't remember installing it, but I just tried. It says that gtk-sharp2 is already installed :(

    That's a bummer. Especially with my Pi3 being delivered later today! :)

    BTW, have you by chance gotten a 64bit distro installed on there yet? I see they seem to be falling behind on the Pi, whereas ArchARM is indeed already available for the ODROID-C2. :(

    Actually, I don't use my Pi as a desktop. I use it for the BBS and it's headless. I use my ODROID XU4 as a desktop. This is the one that I'm having mono issues with.

    But having said that, I still use the 32bit that comes from the raspberry pi download page.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX (46:1/116)
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Gryphon on Friday, November 04, 2016 14:08:00
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 04 Nov 16 13:28, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

    That's a bummer. Especially with my Pi3 being delivered later
    today! :) BTW, have you by chance gotten a 64bit distro installed
    on there yet? I see they seem to be falling behind on the Pi,
    whereas ArchARM is indeed already available for the ODROID-C2. :(

    Actually, I don't use my Pi as a desktop. I use it for the BBS and
    it's headless. I use my ODROID XU4 as a desktop. This is the one
    that I'm having mono issues with.

    That's my plan for the Pi3 as well. If all goes well I may look into an ODROID as well, but we'll see. I'm definitely going to need another device for a media
    server, as I don't care to leave my main PC on all the time.

    But having said that, I still use the 32bit that comes from the
    raspberry pi download page.

    I don't think they're going to make a 64bit distro for the Pi3. There's only 1gb ram so there's really no need for it (or so it seems when reading a bunch of articles). I'm going to give the Arch Linux ARM distro a shot. 32bit, of course.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (46:1/100)