Probably won't happen for various reasons but my old friend Keetar
from Sadist is still drawing amazing rip screens.
Does anyone know who else is at the rip workbench in this new age?

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Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk Hubbard to All on Sun Apr 02 2023 12:08 pm

Probably won't happen for various reasons but my old friend Keetar
from Sadist is still drawing amazing rip screens.
Does anyone know who else is at the rip workbench in this new age?

Deuce sent me a massive 90s-era RIP art he uses for testing SyncTERM's RIP support. I was shocked. I had no idea so much RIP art had been created and most of it created after the heyday of BBSing had passed.

I think what hurts RIP today (besides the ugly fonts and EGA aspect ratio) are the multiple incompatible versions. Basically, anything beyond RIP 1 (RIPterm 1.53 compatible) can't be relied upon to work the same, universally.
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Deuce sent me a massive 90s-era RIP art he uses for testing SyncTERM's
RIP support. I was shocked. I had no idea so much RIP art had been
created and most of it created after the heyday of BBSing had passed.

I think that was the rip screen of the cyber skull that had a Synchonet
logo on it. Am I rite? I know my rip screens :)

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Sun Apr 02 2023 07:40 pm

Deuce sent me a massive 90s-era RIP art he uses for testing SyncTERM's RIP support. I was shocked. I had no idea so much RIP art had been created and most of it created after the heyday of BBSing had passed.

I think that was the rip screen of the cyber skull that had a Synchonet
logo on it. Am I rite? I know my rip screens :)

I know the Synchronet-themed RIP art by DWM very well (I think I paid him to create some of it). I was shocked at all the *other* RIP art that I didn't existed and was created in the mid-late 90's, long after I stopped thinking or caring (much) about RIP.
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I know the Synchronet-themed RIP art by DWM very well (I think I paid
him to create some of it). I was shocked at all the *other* RIP art that
I didn't existed and was created in the mid-late 90's, long after I stopped thinking or caring (much) about RIP.

I'll have to do a search on 16 colors for DwM RIP art. would love to see all his work.

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Tue Apr 04 2023 07:56 pm

I know the Synchronet-themed RIP art by DWM very well (I think I paid him to create some of it). I was shocked at all the *other* RIP art that
I didn't existed and was created in the mid-late 90's, long after I stopped thinking or caring (much) about RIP.

I'll have to do a search on 16 colors for DwM RIP art. would love to see all his work.

I think this might be everything:
https://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

There were one or two "packs" we released back in the day ('93), but there weren't a ton of files in them.
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https://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

Holy hell, that's impressive!

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https://16colo.rs/search/ did not pull up anything for DwM unfortunately
Do you know if he was in any any group back then?

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Wed Apr 05 2023 06:26 am

https://16colo.rs/search/ did not pull up anything for DwM unfortunately
Do you know if he was in any any group back then?

I don't think he was. He was just an artist friend of mine that I coaxed into the RIP thing for a short while. He actually really like RIPaint, as an art program. I don't recall him ever making any ANSIs or other BBS art either.
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Rush quote #22:
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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Tue Apr 04 2023 07:56 pm

I didn't existed and was created in the mid-late 90's, long after I stopped thinking or caring (much) about RIP.

Why did you stop thinking and caring about RIP? I thought it was going to change the entire BBS scene. I was dead wrong. What made you give up on it DM? RIP supports using a mouse and I thought that was what was going change BBS'n. Heck even Frank LaRosa closed up shop. I guess I'm still scratchin my head over it. lol

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: HusTler to Digital Man on Thu Apr 06 2023 12:46 pm

Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Tue Apr 04 2023 07:56 pm

I didn't existed and was created in the mid-late 90's, long after I stopped thinking or caring (much) about RIP.

Why did you stop thinking and caring about RIP? I thought it was going to change the entire BBS scene. I was dead wrong. What made you give up on it DM?

Lack of interest or demand from sysops and users. It just seemed to be one of those novelty-like features that didn't get enough traction to really be a huge draw for users and thus sysops didn't really demand much more than basic support for it. The stock RIP menus in Synchronet are, I think, still completely unchanged from 1992. And they're not great.

I did see some cool RIP demos (a 3D maze/skeleton game comes to mind), but I think they were too slow to realistically play over dial-up.

RIP supports using a mouse and I thought that was what was going change BBS'n. Heck even Frank LaRosa closed up shop. I guess I'm still scratchin my head over it. lol

Yeah, Frank bought into RIP totally. He was very nice when I met him at ONE BBSCON '93. I was bought into OS/2 at the time and that consumed the majority of my "new feature" development energy. In hindsight, I should've been working on something, just about anything, else. But a 32-bit multi-threaded version of SBBS v2 was still a cool thing to have done, even if it was for a dead-end OS.

I have some vague visions of what graphics could do to enhance the traditional BBS experience and plan to pursue that at some point. It's mainly just window dressing (or "chrome" they call it these days), but I'd still like to do/have that to impress users. As for a totally-graphical BBS (think Robocomm/FX), I don't have any interest. But I still think graphics, high (24-bit) color text/block-art, good mouse support are things that BBS users would appreciate using more regularly.
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Synchronet "Real Fact" #90:
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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Digital Man to HusTler on Thu Apr 06 2023 11:46 am

Why did you stop thinking and caring about RIP? I thought it was going to change the entire BBS scene. I was dead wrong. What made you give up on it DM?

Also, for me personally, I didn't like RIPterm enough as a client to totally replace Telix (my terminal of choice). And RIP support came late to other terminal programs (Windows only versions too, if I recall) and wasn't 100% compatible with RIPterm.
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https://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

I have all those rip screens. He was soooooooo good!
Always loved that one of the tank crunching over the field of skulls
and the the P47 warbird! He did a really nice Messerschmitt also.
Great stuff!

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: Hawk to Digital Man on Tue Apr 04 2023 10:10 pm

https://wiki.synchro.net/history:museum:rip

I have all those rip screens. He was soooooooo good!
Always loved that one of the tank crunching over the field of skulls
and the the P47 warbird! He did a really nice Messerschmitt also.
Great stuff!

Agree totally!
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But I still think graphics, high (24-bit) color text/block-art, good
mouse support are things that BBS users would appreciate using more regularly. --

Would that be difficult to work on a new standard that could enhance original RIP idea? I got intrigued by this whole RIP thing quite recently, still I cannot access board that can help me experience it for real.

Piranha bounces me off when I tried to type the address in.

-h1

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Piranha bounces me off when I tried to type the address in.

Double check the address: piranha.acid.org:27
Are you calling with RIPTel or another RIP client?
Possibly your IP was sent to the blacklist if you hammered the board.

I will get you hooked up. We can find the snag.

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Re: Re: RIPScrip Artists Awaken!
By: hollowone to Digital Man on Tue May 02 2023 02:20 pm

But I still think graphics, high (24-bit) color text/block-art, good mouse support are things that BBS users would appreciate using more regularly. --

Would that be difficult to work on a new standard that could enhance original RIP idea? I got intrigued by this whole RIP thing quite recently, still I cannot access board that can help me experience it for real.

Probably best to start scratch or something other than RIP, but if you want to discuss in details, I reach out to deuce at irc.synchro.net or (his BBS) at nix.synchro.net
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Sling Blade quote #15:
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Double check the address: piranha.acid.org:27
Are you calling with RIPTel or another RIP client?
Possibly your IP was sent to the blacklist if you hammered the board.

I tried blackflag.acid.org:27 and got disconnected instantly from Synterm.
I tried the same thing with web proxy and got terminal response that this board only allows IP approved proxies, thus I started suspecting it my be GEO/IP blocking on some pattern.

I did not hammer with the board, yet :) no chance given.

now as I'm on Mac, I'm trying SyncTerm. if that fails then I'll try RIPTerm/Tel, that's ok.

I can contact you privately to figure out if I fail under this corrected piranha.acid.org address.

thanks for quick response.

-h1

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now as I'm on Mac, I'm trying SyncTerm. if that fails then I'll try RIPTerm/Tel, that's ok.

RIPTel is the correct client to call Piranha for RIP Graphics but it's a Windows install for (Windows 7 10 and 11)

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If you need RIPTel here's the link: http://blackflag.acid.org/RIPtel.zip

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that this board only allows IP approved proxies, thus I started
suspecting it my be GEO/IP blocking on some pattern.

Your country may possibly be blocked! What country are you calling from and I can check for blocking on my end.

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Your country may possibly be blocked! What country are you calling from and I can check for blocking on my end.

As we talked on your other board, I'm connecting from PL.
Now preparing for short vacation and far away from my Windows Machine (all time on Macs), so I'll give it a chance when back (After 15th of May).

But thanks for your support so far!

-h1

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Why did you stop thinking and caring about RIP? I thought it was go

Also, for me personally, I didn't like RIPterm enough as a client to totally replace Telix (my terminal of choice). And RIP support came late to other terminal programs (Windows only versions too, if I recall) and

I can see your point. I remember it being a hard sell to get folks to switch terminal software. People weren't tired of ANSI yet. In fact I had a few
users still using VT100. Once windows 95 came out it was a whole new ball
game.

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I can see your point. I remember it being a hard sell to get folks to switch terminal software. People weren't tired of ANSI yet. In fact I had a few users still using VT100. Once windows 95 came out it was a whole new ball game.

I always saw RIP as being another option to ANSI and ASCII. Plus, I had registered my ternimal software because I quite liked it, so I was not very likely to migrate (and my terminal program integrated support for RIP).


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I can see your point. I remember it being a hard sell to get folks to s

I always saw RIP as being another option to ANSI and ASCII. Plus, I had registered my ternimal software because I quite liked it, so I was not very likely to migrate (and my terminal program integrated support for RIP).

Yea. Apparently a lot of folks were not willing to switch to RIP. Even today!

... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...

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