On 07/03/17, Orbitman said the following...

Which is better? Mis or Mis2? Which one do you favor? Why?

I know for a while Mis 2 didn't support everything that Mis does so I am interested in knowing if that has changed as well. Guess it's time to take a look at the What's New...

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Hello Orbitman,

On Mon Jul 03 2017 08:24:54, Orbitman wrote to All:

Which is better? Mis or Mis2? Which one do you favor? Why?

Currently I'm using Mis.....but want to check out Mis2.

MIS2 I believe currently supports separate IP banning settings per server, which MIS does not (when an IP is banned, it bans on all servers). I believe it
also has IPv6 support and some other things.

From what I remember, MIS will eventually be phased out, and MIS2 will replace it. So it's probably better off switching to it anyways.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Accession,

MIS2 I believe currently supports separate IP banning settings per
server, which MIS does not (when an IP is banned, it bans on all
servers). I believe it also has IPv6 support and some other things.

From what I remember, MIS will eventually be phased out, and MIS2 will replace it. So it's probably better off switching to it anyways.

Right now, I'm using mis2 for the telnet connections and mis for the binkp connections. I was chatting with Pequito recently and he told me that mis2 doesn't supports events. If mis2 is going to replace mis, I would think it would do everything that mis does...but better with more options.

I've noticed that MIS2 handles the telnet connections much faster than MIS.

Thanks!
Orbitman (Allen)
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Hello Orbitman,

On Tue Jul 04 2017 12:46:50, Orbitman wrote to Accession:

Right now, I'm using mis2 for the telnet connections and mis for the
binkp connections. I was chatting with Pequito recently and he told
me that mis2 doesn't supports events. If mis2 is going to replace
mis, I would think it would do everything that mis does...but better
with more options.

Ah. I had no idea MIS2 didn't support events. Though you may want to check with
Avon and/or g00r00 to be sure on that.

Regards,
Nick

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On 07/05/17, Accession said the following...

Ah. I had no idea MIS2 didn't support events. Though you may want to
check with Avon and/or g00r00 to be sure on that.

That is correct, unless the latest alpha has added them in. I was using Mis2 for everything except events and Mis for those. Had some issues with it freezing so I dropped back to just Mis.

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On 07/05/17, Accession said the following...

Ah. I had no idea MIS2 didn't support events. Though you may want to
check with Avon and/or g00r00 to be sure on that.

I just saw on FSX net that MIS2 does not support events yet. When g00r00
gets events included, MIS will go away.

Thanks!
Orbitman (Allen)
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On 07/05/17, Accession pondered and said...

mis, I would think it would do everything that mis does...but better with more options.

Ah. I had no idea MIS2 didn't support events. Though you may want to
check with Avon and/or g00r00 to be sure on that.

Yep that's correct MIS is the event's go-to for now and not MIS2 ... have a feeling that's going to change soon :)

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On 07/05/17, Captain Obvious said the following...

That is correct, unless the latest alpha has added them in. I was using Mis2 for everything except events and Mis for those. Had some issues
with it freezing so I dropped back to just Mis.

So far, with MIS2 running the telnet server and MIS running the BINKP server, I've had zero problems...knock on wood.

Watch, now that I've said that, it'll bugger up on me :/

Thanks!
Orbitman (Allen)
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Hello Avon,

On Thu Jul 06 2017 16:52:48, Avon wrote to Accession:

Ah. I had no idea MIS2 didn't support events. Though you may want
to check with Avon and/or g00r00 to be sure on that.

Yep that's correct MIS is the event's go-to for now and not MIS2 ...
have a feeling that's going to change soon :)

Good to know.

Also, since I don't remember if this was ever addressed.. does either of them allow for non-setup binkp connections? For example, if you didn't have me or my
node number(s) setup in your config, would I be able to make a successful binkp
connection to you and say even send you netmail?

I only ask because there was one point where it (MIS?) wouldn't accept connections from people not setup in Mystic's config.

Regards,
Nick

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On 07/06/17, Accession pondered and said...

Also, since I don't remember if this was ever addressed.. does either of them allow for non-setup binkp connections? For example, if you didn't have me or my node number(s) setup in your config, would I be able to
make a successful binkp connection to you and say even send you netmail?

I only ask because there was one point where it (MIS?) wouldn't accept connections from people not setup in Mystic's config.

As far as I know Mystic happily handles connections from unknown Bink systems so long as the Binkp server setting has 'allow unsecure' set to 'yes'

It's also a good idea (IMHO) to have 'force cram-md5' set to 'No' as that can hinder the ability for another system to connect.

I tend to set cram-md5 at individual echonode levels.

Hope that helps

Best, Paul

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Hello Avon,

On Fri Jul 07 2017 11:09:40, Avon wrote to Accession:

I only ask because there was one point where it (MIS?) wouldn't
accept connections from people not setup in Mystic's config.

As far as I know Mystic happily handles connections from unknown Bink systems so long as the Binkp server setting has 'allow unsecure' set
to 'yes'

Ok. That also helps when setting up new Mystic systems here as I now know what options to give when it's not working at first. ;)

It's also a good idea (IMHO) to have 'force cram-md5' set to 'No' as
that can hinder the ability for another system to connect.

I don't even think that option should be there, to be honest. Too many people seem to not have a clue as to what it really means.

I tend to set cram-md5 at individual echonode levels.

I do this as well.

Hope that helps

It does, and thank you. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Also, since I don't remember if this was ever addressed.. does either of them allow for non-setup binkp connections? For example, if you didn't have me or my node number(s) setup in your config, would I be able to
make a successful binkp connection to you and say even send you netmail?

Yes you can receive unsecured connections if you have allow unsecured connections set to Yes. You can also fidopoll any address that is in the nodelist for unsecured exchanges so it works both ways

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Hello g00r00,

On Mon Jul 10 2017 10:26:42, g00r00 wrote to Accession:

Yes you can receive unsecured connections if you have allow unsecured connections set to Yes. You can also fidopoll any address that is in
the nodelist for unsecured exchanges so it works both ways

Thanks for the info!

As for the second part, is there somewhere (while posting the message) to set the netmail's attributes to say "Direct" so that when you would use "fidopoll send" it would send the netmail directly to that node number if they're not setup in your config (of course, they would have to be nodelisted for that to be possible)?

Regards,
Nick

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