Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BBSlist door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person (for whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a handle or name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. without disconneting the caller
after so many times of a [blank] noname input. Needless to say, this is
getting logged on the other board with the connection IP address. Anyway, I can't remember if this as already been fixed or not. But mystic should be disconnecting callers after like maybe 3 tries. That way the telnetdoor can dump the caller back to the systems door they where using. My config will
abort after 3 incorrect password a-temps. But what happens if the caller doesn't even enter a name or handle? (hence, it scrools down the page),.
anking over and over what is the user name. This is a problem... because in the example that i saw happen, the users just ended up closing the connection completly. Closing the connection on both systems. They also were probably wondering WTF was that all about, or didn't give it a second thought (:

This is a FYI headup post.. starting off 2015 with a op saying wtf.. hehe

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On 01/01/15, Skuz said the following...

Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BBSlist
door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person (for whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a handle or name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. without disconneting the caller after so many times of a [blank] noname input.

i just tried this with my board and just telneting in. i hit enter at the matrix to log on and then enter on the username screen and it bounces back to the matrix. so i just hit enter 100 times and it flips between screens and never disconnects.. should have so,ething set to disconnect after so many failed attempts..

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Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BBSlist
door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person (for whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a handle or name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. without disconneting the caller after so many times of a [blank] noname input.

this only happened to me in the shuttle login, appears to work without it.

without the shuttle login, it disconnects after the configured amount of
times is reached.

havn't tried it in a long time, dont know if it still happens.

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On 01/01/15, Skuz said the following...

Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BBSlist
door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person (for whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a handle or name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. without disconneting the caller after so many times of a [blank] noname input. Needless to say, this is getting logged on the other board with the connection IP address. Anyway, I can't remember if this as already been fixed or not. But mystic should be disconnecting callers after like
maybe 3 tries. That way the telnetdoor can dump the caller back to the systems door they where using. My config will abort after 3 incorrect password a-temps. But what happens if the caller doesn't even enter a
name or handle? (hence, it scrools down the page),. anking over and over what is the user name. This is a problem... because in the example that
i saw happen, the users just ended up closing the connection completly. Closing the connection on both systems. They also were probably
wondering WTF was that all about, or didn't give it a second thought (:

Is this a Mystic problem, or a telnet client problem? What OS are you using? The only outbound telneting from the BBSList that I know of is my BLAM app. That requires the use of a 3rd party telnet client in order to telnet out
from Mystic. For my linux setup, I just use the default telnet client that comes with my distro. If you're using windows, I had recommend using Rick Parrish's TelnetDoor. Maybe that app is the issue then?

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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recommend using Rick Parrish's TelnetDoor. Maybe that app is the issue

I use this here and it works great!

Ruben Figueroa
Sysop of Prison Board BBS
WildCat: http://rdfig.net telnet://rdfig.net
Mystic: telnet://pb.darktech.org:24

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On 01/01/15, Skuz said the following...

Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BBSlist door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person (for whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a handle name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. with disconneting the caller after so many times of a [blank] noname input

On 01/01/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

i just tried this with my board and just telneting in. i hit enter at the matrix to log on and then enter on the username screen and it
bounces back to the matrix. so i just hit enter 100 times and it flips between screens and never disconnects.. should have so,ething set to disconnect after so many failed attempts..

Exactly !!! Depending on whatever the board as setup (Matrix or No Matrix)
If a caller doesn't logon with a user name and keeps hitting Enter over and over (expecting that they are going to get disconnected). That doesn't happen! like you would think. They end up dropin the connection, and since where talking about telneting out from another board... with the Blam script (it doesn't matter of it is windows linux or any other OS. The connection drops
on ALL systems. Not a good practices.. It seems your the only one that understands the point i'm trying to make here. Sure the telnet door works great, if the user logon nornal. But, if he is a dickhead... lol or just doesn't know wtf their doing.. 100% of the time.. what happens? Correct!
They drop the connection. Meaning, both system are effected. The only fix i
see here, is to make sure Mystic can closing a connection first before the caller drop carrier in the telnet door. Yes I uses the blam script in both windows and linux and the was tested by teneting to A Missing Chromosome marabbs.no-ip.org ... also a mystic board (without the matrix login). Anyway
a failed lohin attemp will scrool down the screen. Unlike, KW test of bouncing back and forth between the logon handle screen and the matrix. Logic states this is a universal mystic problem, pi (pun-intended).

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On 01/02/15, reapern66 said the following...

this only happened to me in the shuttle login, appears to work without
it. without the shuttle login, it disconnects after the configured amount of times is reached. havn't tried it in a long time, dont know if it still happens.

Well, if it is a failed login attempt, it happens. If the do login with a
name and get the password wrong. It disconnects after the configured amount
of times is reached, correct. My point is they don't do anything when ask to login except HIT their ENTER key several times before they drop carrier in
the BBSLIST blam script. I'm sure it would do the samething on a normal menu type telnet to another board setup. I guessing that i'd need to try it again and see what happens. It might depend on what version of mystic being used.
But so far.. all thing point to something that has not been addressed yet. Again I could be wrong about this. Oh well, back to watching the new Hobbit.

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On 01/03/15, Skuz said the following...

Exactly !!! Depending on whatever the board as setup (Matrix or No
Matrix) If a caller doesn't logon with a user name and keeps hitting
Enter over and over (expecting that they are going to get disconnected). That doesn't happen! like you would think. They end up dropin the

It should be like 5 failed username entries and them disconnect..

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$ Kidd Wicked was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

i just tried this with my board and just telneting in. i hit enter at
the matrix to log on and then enter on the username screen and it bounces back to the matrix. so i just hit enter 100 times and it flips between screens and never disconnects.. should have so,ething set to disconnect
after so many failed attempts..

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If it's sending you back to the mtarix, the matrix should have a logoff or disconenct option. If it doesn't thats bad design on the system's part, It's not the same as entering a bad password (3) times for invalid login.

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On 01/03/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

If it's sending you back to the mtarix, the matrix should have a logoff
or disconenct option. If it doesn't thats bad design on the system's part, It's not the same as entering a bad password (3) times for
invalid login.

My matrix has a logoff option.. But if someone wanted to be an asshole to
me all they have to do is sort of a "ping of death" with the enter key.. I could write a script to just send the enter command 10000000 times when it makes a connection and my system would switch between the matrix and login screen as fast as it can without logging off from failed attempts. the reason being is when you log on to my system my lightbar is on the "logon to bbs" selection.. you hit enter. then when the user logon screen comes up and you just hit enter instead of typing in a user name it kicks you back to the
matrix screen.. then you hit "enter" at the matrix... Endless "enter" loop.. Try it.. bbs.sinnershaven.com... well just not a million times...:)

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On 01/03/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

If it's sending you back to the mtarix, the matrix should have a logoff
or disconenct option. If it doesn't thats bad design on the system's part, It's not the same as entering a bad password (3) times for
invalid login.

And its not just my board, it does it at Distortion and Clutch and anyone that runs a matrix logon.. There is a failed logon attempts setting for the matrix but it does not seem to be working..

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On 01/03/15, Skuz said the following...

On 01/01/15, Skuz said the following...

Has anyone else noticed that when a user telnets out from the BB door to another Mystic BBS in the list of boards. If the person whatever reason) changes their mind and doesn't login using a ha name. Mystic just goes down the screen over and over.. forever.. disconneting the caller after so many times of a [blank] noname

On 01/01/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

i just tried this with my board and just telneting in. i hit enter the matrix to log on and then enter on the username screen and it bounces back to the matrix. so i just hit enter 100 times and it flip between screens and never disconnects.. should have so,ething set to disconnect after so many failed attempts..

Exactly !!! Depending on whatever the board as setup (Matrix or No
Matrix) If a caller doesn't logon with a user name and keeps hitting
Enter over and over (expecting that they are going to get disconnected). That doesn't happen! like you would think. They end up dropin the connection, and since where talking about telneting out from another board... with the Blam script (it doesn't matter of it is windows linux
or any other OS. The connection drops on ALL systems. Not a good practices.. It seems your the only one that understands the point i'm trying to make here. Sure the telnet door works great, if the user logon nornal. But, if he is a dickhead... lol or just doesn't know wtf their doing.. 100% of the time.. what happens? Correct! They drop the connection. Meaning, both system are effected. The only fix i see here,
is to make sure Mystic can closing a connection first before the caller drop carrier in the telnet door. Yes I uses the blam script in both windows and linux and the was tested by teneting to A Missing Chromosome marabbs.no-ip.org ... also a mystic board (without the matrix login). Anyway a failed lohin attemp will scrool down the screen. Unlike, KW
test of bouncing back and forth between the logon handle screen and the matrix. Logic states this is a universal mystic problem, pi (pun-intended)

Ok, I know what you are talking about. When telnetting out from a mystic bbs as a door, and when things get hosed, the only thing to do is to hang up, and that hangs up on all the systems, not just the one thats hosed.

What I've found, is that most telnet outbound clients will let you disconnect with the '^]' (CTL-right-bracket) command. If you do that, then you should
be able to drop the hosed connection, while keeping your original connection.
I admit, that is something that you will need to train your users to do,
since it's not some menu option you can envoke.

While we're on the subject, there is another issue that occurs when you use
the outbound telnet feature with Mystic; you cannot do file xfers. They at least won't work with the linux client that I use on Cyberia. It may be that other telnet clients will work, but I haven't found one to work yet.

One question regarding your original issue tho... does this only happen when doing outbound sessions from the BBS? If you used your terminal program to call that same BBS, and just hit enter at the login prompt, would it behave
the same way? Is this only an issue when calling Mystic BBSes, or does it happen with all kinds?

"No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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On 01/02/15, Gryphon said the following...

Is this a Mystic problem, or a telnet client problem? What OS are you using? The only outbound telneting from the BBSList that I know of is my BLAM app. That requires the use of a 3rd party telnet client in order to telnet out from Mystic. For my linux setup, I just use the default
telnet client that comes with my distro. If you're using windows, I had recommend using Rick Parrish's TelnetDoor. Maybe that app is the issue then?

All thing point to a Mystic problem, I use BLAM with both windows and linux. also use the same RP telnetdoor you mention above. The issue is mystic
doesn't disconnect the caller on failed login attempts. They type in no name
or password like a normal login attemp. They only hit ENTER over and over causing mystic to loop the user prompt. By the way i've lost my access to my telnet term client directory list, due to a power supply quit working. So, i have know clue what my passwords are on any boards at all. If you can and other ops.. would be so kind to provide me that info, it would be great. I might be able to access the machine harddrive after jumping through a bunch of crap. Looking for the right cables and stuff. 2015 is starting off just grand.. (:

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On 01/03/15, Ruben Figueroa said the following...

recommend using Rick Parrish's TelnetDoor. Maybe that app is the iss

I use this here and it works great!

I use it also and yes it does work great. Until you get a user that desides that he doesn't what to do what here started to do. He telnets out to
another mystic board in the list. But he doesn't login normal. He just hits ENTER over and over causing mystic the loop the user login prompt. In a
perfect world, things do work great! ..hehe.. happy new year Ruben :)

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On 01/03/15, g00r00 said the following...

What you are saying is true, but... If someone wanted to have a menu redraw over and over again, it really doesn't matter what BBS software
or menu you are talking about. They can do the same thing as you are describing... anywhere.

I could make a script to login to Pharcyde which runs Synchronet and do nothing but type "T" and "Q" over and over again to move to the Transfer menu to the Main menu. The only thing that can stop that is time per

Well yes, but you would be a user at that point and I would know it was you...:) I was not dissing this software, just pointing something out.

I did the math and I can break it down for you if you want, but if you spammed Mystic matrix with a 2000 byte menu for 30 minutes (the default limit) you'd eat ~3.5 *megabytes* of bandwidth. The average webpage is

3.5 megabytes is a lot, 20 years ago...:)

No its not endless, just maybe longer than you'd like! ;) By default it can only display 1800 times before Mystic will disconnect them. Thats a fry cry from millions.

My finger cramped up before I got that far...

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On 01/03/15, g00r00 said the following...

2) You don't have to do #1 anymore because in A60 it will disconnect the user if XL (Matrix login menu command) is called more than "Login/Matrix->Login Attempts" number of times! in a single connection!

Well that is just awesome... Thanks so much!!!

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On 01/03/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

And its not just my board, it does it at Distortion and Clutch and anyone that runs a matrix logon.. There is a failed logon attempts
setting for the matrix but it does not seem to be working..

there is? i see one general "Login Attempts" setting but not another one specific to the matrix thing...

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Hello Skuz,

On 03 Jan 15 19:00, Skuz wrote to reapern66:

Well, if it is a failed login attempt, it happens. If the do login
with a name and get the password wrong. It disconnects after the configured amount of times is reached, correct. My point is they don't
do anything when ask to login except HIT their ENTER key several times before they drop carrier in the BBSLIST blam script. I'm sure it would
do the samething on a normal menu type telnet to another board setup.
I guessing that i'd need to try it again and see what happens. It
might depend on what version of mystic being used. But so far.. all
thing point to something that has not been addressed yet. Again I
could be wrong about this. Oh well, back to watching the new Hobbit.

I've seen what you're describing. It also happens on the general login to a BBS, whether it be the matrix or a non-matrix login. From what James has recently said, it seems as though that was intended, but I also read that there
is already a fix in A60 to specifically set your login attempts.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Kidd,

On 03 Jan 15 20:18, Kidd Wicked wrote to Skuz:

Exactly !!! Depending on whatever the board as setup (Matrix or
No Matrix) If a caller doesn't logon with a user name and keeps
hitting Enter over and over (expecting that they are going to get
disconnected). That doesn't happen! like you would think. They
end up dropin the

It should be like 5 failed username entries and them disconnect..

This is why I hate reading messages in two different places (read them on my BBS first). I already know the outcome of this, so why do I reply to earlier posts? :)

Addressed in A60. But you knew that already. lol

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Kidd,

On 03 Jan 15 21:29, Kidd Wicked wrote to Mercyful Fate:

My matrix has a logoff option.. But if someone wanted to be an
asshole to me all they have to do is sort of a "ping of death" with
the enter key.. I could write a script to just send the enter command 10000000 times when it makes a connection and my system would switch between the matrix and login screen as fast as it can without logging
off from failed attempts. the reason being is when you log on to my
system my lightbar is on the "logon to bbs" selection.. you hit enter. then when the user logon screen comes up and you just hit enter
instead of typing in a user name it kicks you back to the matrix
screen.. then you hit "enter" at the matrix... Endless "enter" loop..
Try it.. bbs.sinnershaven.com... well just not a million times...:)

You could always make the "Logoff" option the first one that the matrix starts on. That way anyone trying to do something ridiculously annoying like that will
end their call immediately. LOL

I'm kidding! It was much more funny while I was writing it. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/04/15, wkitty42 said the following...

On 01/03/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

And its not just my board, it does it at Distortion and Clutch and anyone that runs a matrix logon.. There is a failed logon attempts setting for the matrix but it does not seem to be working..

there is? i see one general "Login Attempts" setting but not another one specific to the matrix thing...

Ya, your right, its not for the matrix it was under the matrix/logon
setting.

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On 01/04/15, Accession said the following...

This is why I hate reading messages in two different places (read them
on my BBS first). I already know the outcome of this, so why do I reply
to earlier posts? :)

I agree, but with all excessive partying in the 80's I forget things
quickly so it's all new stuff...:)

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On 01/04/15, Accession said the following...

You could always make the "Logoff" option the first one that the matrix starts on. That way anyone trying to do something ridiculously annoying like that will end their call immediately. LOL

I'm kidding! It was much more funny while I was writing it. :)

I thought about doing that but then (reference other post about partying to mych in the 80's) I would forget I did it and wonder what the hell is wrong with my board, I cant log on, and sit there for hours trying to figure it
out.. I changed my pass a week ago, you know how many hack attempt messages I have! At least I got mail when I logon...lol

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On 01/03/15, Gryphon said the following...

Ok, I know what you are talking about. When telnetting out from a
mystic bbs as a door, and when things get hosed, the only thing to do is to hang up, and that hangs up on all the systems, not just the one thats hosed.

Correct, maybe i did a poor job explaining it the first time around.

What I've found, is that most telnet outbound clients will let you disconnect with the '^]' (CTL-right-bracket) command. If you do that, then you should be able to drop the hosed connection, while keeping your original connection. I admit, that is something that you will need to train your users to do, since it's not some menu option you can envoke.

'^]' good to know.. but i probably won't remember that. Most user here are either visiting ops form other boards or users that can't be trained. hehe But yes, i follow what your refering here.

While we're on the subject, there is another issue that occurs when you use the outbound telnet feature with Mystic; you cannot do file xfers. While we're on the subject, there is another issue that occurs when you use the outbound telnet feature with Mystic; you cannot do file xfers. They at least won't work with the linux client that I use on Cyberia.
It may be that other telnet clients will work, but I haven't found one
to work yet.

This is the samething I found using the synchro baja telgate mod to tranport callers to other boards. The process of doing file xfers never did work, I'd say it has something to do with having to tranfer files from multi IP
addresses (hops) with each systems drop file socket handles.

One question regarding your original issue tho... does this only happen when doing outbound sessions from the BBS? If you used your terminal program to call that same BBS, and just hit enter at the login prompt, would it behave the same way? Is this only an issue when calling Mystic BBSes, or does it happen with all kinds?

It happens either way, it is a issue with mystic. I know for a fact, RA will hang-up on the 3rd time of a failed login. Same goes for, RG, inqu and pipline.. also ELEbbs. I haven't tried with wildcat or any other for that matter.

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It happens either way, it is a issue with mystic. I know for a fact, RA will hang-up on the 3rd time of a failed login. Same goes for, RG, inqu

Once again, are you claiming that you have the login attempts configured and
it doesn't work? I have tested several alphas now and I can't find any where this feature does not work.

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$ Kidd Wicked was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My matrix has a logoff option.. But if someone wanted to be an asshole
to me all they have to do is sort of a "ping of death" with the enter
key.. I could write a script to just send the enter command 10000000 times when it makes a connection and my system would switch between the matrix
and login screen as fast as it can without logging off from failed
attempts. the reason being is when you log on to my system my lightbar is
on the "logon to bbs" selection.. you hit enter. then when the user logon screen comes up and you just hit enter instead of typing in a user name it kicks you back to the matrix screen.. then you hit "enter" at the
matrix... Endless "enter" loop.. Try it.. bbs.sinnershaven.com... well
just not a million times...:)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I get what your saying, i'm sure g00r00 will do something. Otherwise you have to option to code your matrix with mpl and make it behave in any manner desired. I've seen it done before. :)

|07M|11er|03cy|07ful Fate |08(|15hTc|08)|07

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On 01/04/15, g00r00 said the following...

Once again, are you claiming that you have the login attempts configured and it doesn't work? I have tested several alphas now and I can't find any where this feature does not work.

No, i'm not claiming that... login attempts configured does work. I was refering to a caller who connected to marabbs.no-ip.org from the telnetdoor gateway on my board in the Darryl Perry BBSlist MPL Blam script. When they Connection to this Mystic 1.10 A51 board. They did not logon, they hit the ENTER key over and over.. and mystic just looped the prompt over and over.
This was a week ago when i noticed it. Since then, the op at A Missing Chromosome bbs most have fixed the prompt loop. Because it nolonger happens when I just checked it.

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Hello g00r00,

On 04 Jan 15 20:09, g00r00 wrote to Skuz:

It happens either way, it is a issue with mystic. I know for a
fact, RA will hang-up on the 3rd time of a failed login. Same
goes for, RG, inqu

Once again, are you claiming that you have the login attempts
configured and it doesn't work? I have tested several alphas now and
I can't find any where this feature does not work.

Is there possibly a menu command that would check for that, that some people might have left out of their matrix menu when they replaced it?

Regards,
Nick

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desides that he doesn't what to do what here started to do. He telnets out to another mystic board in the list. But he doesn't login normal. He just hits ENTER over and over causing mystic the loop the user login prompt. In a perfect world, things do work great! ..hehe.. happy new

I have had a few hangups but am not aware what the problem was. I find user logged on but no activity, so I assume there was a problem and user disconnected but Mystic didn't disconnect also.

Thanks, and I hoped you had a Happy New year also.

Ruben Figueroa
Sysop of Prison Board BBS
WildCat: http://rdfig.net telnet://rdfig.net
Mystic: telnet://pb.darktech.org:24

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On 01/04/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

I get what your saying, i'm sure g00r00 will do something. Otherwise
you have to option to code your matrix with mpl and make it behave in
any manner desired. I've seen it done before. :)

i've obviously lead a sheltered life... why is this thing called a "matrix"?? is it like a "carousel", "wheel" or "hub" used on some systems to offer a choice of different bbses to login to? the ones i'm familiar with like that actually ran different bbs software for each one...

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Is there possibly a menu command that would check for that, that some people might have left out of their matrix menu when they replaced it?

Ok this is confusing everyone so let me try to clear it up! :)

1. Login attempts is configurable. If someone tries to spam ENTER on the
login prompt and they do it more than "login attempts" time, Mystic will drop the connection.

2. #1 is has nothing to do with Matrix menu/login. The Matrix menu is a menu, and menus do not have any sort of "login attempts" counter associated to them. Therefore, the login attempts setting does not apply to Matrix menus in A59.

Now if I got it right Skuz was saying he had trouble with #1 working, and someone else basically wanted it to work with the Matrix menu too (which it doesn't in A59).

Based on the feedack, I added some code into A60 so that it will now track
how many times the "XL" (matrix login) menu command is ran, and if it hits "login attempts" times without a login, it will drop connection from the
Matrix menu. This should give it a similar effect as scenario #1 but within the Matrix system.

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i've obviously lead a sheltered life... why is this thing called a "matrix"?? is it like a "carousel", "wheel" or "hub" used on some
systems to offer a choice of different bbses to login to? the ones i'm familiar with like that actually ran different bbs software for each one...

Its just a way to provide a menu of options and offer an alternative way to create and login to the BBS. It was popular amongst systems that used "New User Voting" where the users of the BBS had to accept new applicants.

My BBS uses one for example. And with it I have it setup so you can download NetRunner, Mystic, or list/download a Mystic BBS list without ever creating an account or logging into the BBS. You can also create a new account, login,
or disconnect.

(As less popular term was called "Shuttle login" back in the early 90s when I first saw the feature)

The Matrix menu could probably be used to offer a menu of other BBS software if you wanted it to because really its just a Mystic menu.... so you can execute command line stuff if you wanted to.

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Once again, are you claiming that you have the login attempts configured and it doesn't work? I have tested several alphas now and I can't find any where this feature does not work.

if you set mystic to shuttle login, and just keep pressing enter without putting in a user name, it doesnt disconnet.

without the shutarrow if i remember correctly, pressing enter without
entering the username disconnected after whatever number was configured.

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On 01/05/15, reapern66 said the following...

if you set mystic to shuttle login, and just keep pressing enter without putting in a user name, it doesnt disconnet.

someone must have done some playing because T has her system with this matrix thing now (out of curiousity)... it is the default that mystic comes with and it has three options with no lightbar stuff... one has to specifically choose [L]ogin as hitting enter just cycles the matrix menu over and over and over... but james has said that he's got a fix for this in A60, too ;)

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