• Netrunner

    From Gryphon@46:1/116 to g00r00 on Sun Mar 1 18:09:03 2015
    g00r00,

    I'm testing out NRb8 on Linux for the first time. It looks Great! But it still has the big blocky cursor. Any chance of being able to configure that
    to something else?

    Also, I would *love* to see a version for ARM/Pi

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Gryphon on Sun Mar 1 19:08:08 2015
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 01 Mar 15 18:09, Gryphon wrote to g00r00:

    I'm testing out NRb8 on Linux for the first time. It looks Great!
    But it still has the big blocky cursor. Any chance of being able to configure that to something else?

    I was going to jump in to argue, but then realized that I'm not using it on Linux. It does indeed have a blinking underscore for the cursor on Windows, though.. and I didn't see any kind of configuration option for it.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kidd Wicked@46:1/125 to Accession on Sun Mar 1 21:51:07 2015
    On 03/01/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 01 Mar 15 18:09, Gryphon wrote to g00r00:

    I'm testing out NRb8 on Linux for the first time. It looks Great! But it still has the big blocky cursor. Any chance of being able to configure that to something else?

    I was going to jump in to argue, but then realized that I'm not using it on Linux. It does indeed have a blinking underscore for the cursor on Windows, though.. and I didn't see any kind of configuration option for it.

    does mystic have a place to config the cursor? it is a big blue box on the raspi and i have been looking for a place to change it with no luck..

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Kidd Wicked on Mon Mar 2 17:33:26 2015
    Hello Kidd,

    On 01 Mar 15 21:51, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    I was going to jump in to argue, but then realized that I'm not
    using it on Linux. It does indeed have a blinking underscore for
    the cursor on Windows, though.. and I didn't see any kind of
    configuration option for it.

    does mystic have a place to config the cursor? it is a big blue box on
    the raspi and i have been looking for a place to change it with no
    luck..

    I'm not certain of that one. I took a quick glance in the theme editor where you can ghange your password echo, file tag, new message and new vote highlight
    characters, but didn't seen anything in regards to a cursor. It may be specific
    to the terminal program you're using?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kidd Wicked@46:1/125 to Accession on Mon Mar 2 19:41:12 2015
    On 03/02/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Kidd,

    On 01 Mar 15 21:51, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    I was going to jump in to argue, but then realized that I'm not
    using it on Linux. It does indeed have a blinking underscore for
    the cursor on Windows, though.. and I didn't see any kind of
    configuration option for it.

    does mystic have a place to config the cursor? it is a big blue box o the raspi and i have been looking for a place to change it with no luck..

    I'm not certain of that one. I took a quick glance in the theme editor where you can ghange your password echo, file tag, new message and new vote highlight characters, but didn't seen anything in regards to a cursor. It may be specific to the terminal program you're using?

    Regards,

    i was just laumchimg it via sudo ./mystic and it had the blue block cursor. also when i syncterm into it, it is the same.

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Kidd Wicked on Mon Mar 2 22:15:04 2015
    Hello Kidd,

    On 02 Mar 15 19:41, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    I'm not certain of that one. I took a quick glance in the theme
    editor where you can ghange your password echo, file tag, new
    message and new vote highlight characters, but didn't seen
    anything in regards to a cursor. It may be specific to the
    terminal program you're using?

    i was just laumchimg it via sudo ./mystic and it had the blue block cursor. also when i syncterm into it, it is the same.

    Where are you referring to exactly? Where you input your name and password? Or the cursor after your pause prompt? Or...

    If so, it may be something as easy as changing your prompts, try tossing a color code at the end of your prompt to change how the cursor that follows it would be displayed..

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kidd Wicked@46:1/125 to Accession on Tue Mar 3 07:50:14 2015
    On 03/02/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Kidd,

    On 02 Mar 15 19:41, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    I'm not certain of that one. I took a quick glance in the theme
    editor where you can ghange your password echo, file tag, new
    message and new vote highlight characters, but didn't seen
    anything in regards to a cursor. It may be specific to the
    terminal program you're using?

    i was just laumchimg it via sudo ./mystic and it had the blue block cursor. also when i syncterm into it, it is the same.

    Where are you referring to exactly? Where you input your name and password? Or the cursor after your pause prompt? Or...

    when you go to input the user name or input a menu command. havent looked at
    my pause prompt yet to see if it shows up there..

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Kidd Wicked on Tue Mar 3 11:35:02 2015
    Hello Kidd,

    On 03 Mar 15 07:50, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    Where are you referring to exactly? Where you input your name and
    password? Or the cursor after your pause prompt? Or...

    when you go to input the user name or input a menu command. havent
    looked at my pause prompt yet to see if it shows up there..

    Well in that case, you can look in one of two places. In your theme editor, check that both input fields do not have a blue background (I believe they come
    with it default). That's probably where it is, since you most likely don't have
    a blue background set after your username prompt or menu prompt using pipe codes.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Wed Mar 4 20:43:30 2015
    On 03/03/15, Accession said the following...

    Where are you referring to exactly? Where you input your name and
    password? Or the cursor after your pause prompt? Or...

    when you go to input the user name or input a menu command. havent looked at my pause prompt yet to see if it shows up there..

    Well in that case, you can look in one of two places. In your theme editor, check that both input fields do not have a blue background (I believe they come with it default). That's probably where it is, since
    you most likely don't have a blue background set after your username prompt or menu prompt using pipe codes.

    it is a big yellow block over here when reading messages... right now, while creating this message, it is a big cyan block... it seems to get the last
    color set by whatever code... in the index reader, it is yellow and sitting on the left hand end of the bottom blue single line border...

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Wed Mar 4 20:37:14 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 04 Mar 15 20:43, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    Well in that case, you can look in one of two places. In your
    theme editor, check that both input fields do not have a blue
    background (I believe they come with it default). That's probably
    where it is, since you most likely don't have a blue background
    set after your username prompt or menu prompt using pipe codes.

    it is a big yellow block over here when reading messages... right now, while creating this message, it is a big cyan block... it seems to get
    the last color set by whatever code... in the index reader, it is
    yellow and sitting on the left hand end of the bottom blue single line border...

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors to anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character to be a color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes substituted with !):

    !07handle: !15

    Should make the input characters bright white. If it has a background color even though one wasn't specified in the prompt, that probably has something to do with the input field characters in the theme editor.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kidd Wicked@46:1/125 to Accession on Wed Mar 4 22:37:13 2015
    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    it is a big yellow block over here when reading messages... right now while creating this message, it is a big cyan block... it seems to ge the last color set by whatever code... in the index reader, it is yellow and sitting on the left hand end of the bottom blue single lin border...

    Should make the input characters bright white. If it has a background color even though one wasn't specified in the prompt, that probably has something to do with the input field characters in the theme editor.

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all. in my case
    i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each screen. usually it is a blinking underscore.. right now i am using an ipad to write this and it is a green block. when i am using my raspi system and locally logged on it is a
    blue block. i think it has to do with iso utf not setup right on my system.

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Thu Mar 5 05:42:46 2015
    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors to anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character to be a color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes substituted with !):

    it isn't always a prompt, though... look at these two snapshots... the yellow block in the bottom left on the blue bar in the first one and the cyan block
    in the second one i took while writing this message...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gluff7y19pbhrp8/NRb8-blockcursor-01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc039bv1i1wdbk0/NRb8-blockcursor-02.png?dl=0

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Kidd Wicked on Thu Mar 5 05:44:24 2015
    On 03/04/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all. in my case i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each screen.

    the color and position of the block cursor come from the remote system we're logged into... in this case, that's a mystic bbs... i see the same thing when i log into my RemoteAccess BBS...

    the shape of the cursor comes from the terminal software... in this case, netrunner v2.00b8...

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  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Kidd Wicked on Thu Mar 5 08:30:31 2015
    On 03/04/15, Kidd Wicked said the following...

    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    it is a big yellow block over here when reading messages... righ while creating this message, it is a big cyan block... it seems the last color set by whatever code... in the index reader, it i yellow and sitting on the left hand end of the bottom blue singl border...

    Should make the input characters bright white. If it has a background color even though one wasn't specified in the prompt, that probably h something to do with the input field characters in the theme editor.

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all. in my case i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each screen. usually it
    is a blinking underscore.. right now i am using an ipad to write this
    and it is a green block. when i am using my raspi system and locally logged on it is a blue block. i think it has to do with iso utf not
    setup right on my system.

    When you are on your ipad, what terminal are you using? When you are
    "locally logged on", what does that mean? Does that mean you are opening a term window and launching Mystic via the command line? Also, what OS are you running Mystic on? If it's Linux, what desktop terminal program are you
    using?

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  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to wkitty42 on Thu Mar 5 08:33:27 2015
    On 03/05/15, wkitty42 said the following...

    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors to anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character to be color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes substituted wi !):

    it isn't always a prompt, though... look at these two snapshots... the yellow block in the bottom left on the blue bar in the first one and the cyan block in the second one i took while writing this message...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gluff7y19pbhrp8/NRb8-blockcursor-01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc039bv1i1wdbk0/NRb8-blockcursor-02.png?dl=0

    That is exactly the behavior I get when using NR on my linux desktop. I
    think that is what I originally reported in this thread. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest it is an SDL thing, and not a netrunner, nor mystic thing.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Kidd Wicked on Thu Mar 5 17:25:58 2015
    Hello Kidd,

    On 04 Mar 15 22:37, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    Should make the input characters bright white. If it has a
    background color even though one wasn't specified in the prompt,
    that probably has something to do with the input field characters
    in the theme editor.

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all. in
    my case i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each screen.
    usually it is a blinking underscore.. right now i am using an ipad to write this and it is a green block. when i am using my raspi system
    and locally logged on it is a blue block. i think it has to do with
    iso utf not setup right on my system.

    Oh. Well in that case, it's not Mystic's fault then? :)

    What are you using on your iPad to post? Are you ssh'd in? Or are you using some kind of terminal program that doesn't support CP437 properly?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Thu Mar 5 17:29:52 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 05 Mar 15 05:42, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors
    to anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character
    to be a color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes
    substituted with !):

    it isn't always a prompt, though... look at these two snapshots... the yellow block in the bottom left on the blue bar in the first one and
    the cyan block in the second one i took while writing this message...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gluff7y19pbhrp8/NRb8-blockcursor-01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc039bv1i1wdbk0/NRb8-blockcursor-02.png?dl=0

    For one, you're still using A57. I cannot vouch for what happens in that alpha since there's a full release out now.

    With that said, in the first screenshot, you have modified either the default template, or the strings directly below it. Something in there changed what on my screen (which is still a default message reader (ansimrd.ans)) shows a blinking gray (07) underscore where your yellow block is.

    One question, since it looks like you're on Linux using Netrunner, do you *always* have a block rather than a blinking underscore? If so, I think I remember something about that being fixed in Windows versions, but not Linux versions. I'm using Netrunner in Windows since I don't have a GUI on any of my *nix setups. BUT, the color is not of Mystic's choice. That is up to you to decide in the prompts and the templates you're creating.

    If you ALWAYS have a block instead of a blinking underscore in Linux, then where you added the Curr, High stuff.. the last character on that line there is
    bright yellow. Add a !07 after that or whatever you want your color to be and it will most likely change).

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Thu Mar 5 17:37:10 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 05 Mar 15 05:44, wkitty42 wrote to Kidd Wicked:

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all.
    in my case i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each
    screen.

    the color and position of the block cursor come from the remote system we're logged into... in this case, that's a mystic bbs... i see the
    same thing when i log into my RemoteAccess BBS...

    the shape of the cursor comes from the terminal software... in this
    case, netrunner v2.00b8...

    On Linux. I remember this being an issue in the past. Try Netrunner b8 on one of your Windows boxen and see if the block character changes to a blinking underscore (as it is showing for me here). The block may have never been fixed in the Linux version.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kidd Wicked@46:1/125 to Accession on Thu Mar 5 22:53:27 2015
    On 03/05/15, Accession said the following...

    Hello Kidd,

    On 04 Mar 15 22:37, Kidd Wicked wrote to Accession:

    Should make the input characters bright white. If it has a
    background color even though one wasn't specified in the prompt,
    that probably has something to do with the input field characters
    in the theme editor.

    i do not think what is being refered to is a mystic thing at all. in my case i am referimg to where the cursor lands on each screen. usually it is a blinking underscore.. right now i am using an ipad to write this and it is a green block. when i am using my raspi system and locally logged on it is a blue block. i think it has to do with iso utf not setup right on my system.

    Oh. Well in that case, it's not Mystic's fault then? :)

    What are you using on your iPad to post? Are you ssh'd in? Or are you using some kind of terminal program that doesn't support CP437 properly?


    i am usimg an app called iSSH. i am just using the telnet portion of it and have it set to CP437. it is close, but not totally correct in the way it displays. when i run mystic on the raspi it will do the same thing i see when
    i use the ipad, a block where there should be a flashing underscore. so i
    think it is something i need to correct with the raspi config..

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Sat Mar 7 04:17:45 2015
    On 03/05/15, Accession said the following...

    For one, you're still using A57. I cannot vouch for what happens in that alpha since there's a full release out now.

    the bbs cannot set the cursor shape on the remote terminal end... the version of mystic doesn't come into play in this scenario... i get the same blinking block cursor when i connect to my RemoteAccess system from netrunner 2b8-linux...

    One question, since it looks like you're on Linux using Netrunner, do you *always* have a block rather than a blinking underscore? If so, I think I

    yes, there is always a blinking block...

    remember something about that being fixed in Windows versions, but not Linux versions. I'm using Netrunner in Windows since I don't have a GUI
    on any of my *nix setups. BUT, the color is not of Mystic's choice. That is up to you to decide in the prompts and the templates you're creating.

    yes, i've already commented about the color of the block being the last color set by some command... "some command" meaning some color code that was transmitted by the bbs... for example, i may have the color of a frame set
    for blue but when mystic transmits, it may transmit another color change like we see when pipe codes are posted in messages... whatever the last color code is is what sets the blinking block...

    If you ALWAYS have a block instead of a blinking underscore in Linux,
    then where you added the Curr, High stuff.. the last character on that line there is bright yellow. Add a !07 after that or whatever you want your color to be and it will most likely change).

    eeeerrrrmmmm... we're wanting to change the color of the /block/ not what
    comes after it... i/we would rather that the block be an underscore or not
    even visible, really, until it is in an input field...

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Sat Mar 7 04:20:24 2015
    On 03/05/15, Accession said the following...

    the shape of the cursor comes from the terminal software... in this case, netrunner v2.00b8...

    On Linux. I remember this being an issue in the past. Try Netrunner b8
    on one of your Windows boxen and see if the block character changes to a blinking underscore (as it is showing for me here). The block may have never been fixed in the Linux version.

    i will try to do that... i've gotta get some time to get on my laptop and do some much needed chores on it... since my christmas present arrived, i've
    been busy as hell on it and other projects are starting to lag behind... i haven't read email in 4 days and i really gotta transfer all that from my laptop to the beast where i'm spending most all of my time now...

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Sat Mar 7 15:57:22 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 07 Mar 15 04:17, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    the bbs cannot set the cursor shape on the remote terminal end... the version of mystic doesn't come into play in this scenario... i get the same blinking block cursor when i connect to my RemoteAccess system
    from netrunner 2b8-linux...

    Exactly. I have a feeling that's still something in Netrunner's Linux version that either hasn't been addressed yet, or maybe the fact that after it was fixed in the Windows version the subject hasn't come up again until now for the
    Linux version.

    One question, since it looks like you're on Linux using
    Netrunner, do you *always* have a block rather than a blinking
    underscore? If so, I think I

    yes, there is always a blinking block...

    Yep. Then I think that's specific to the Linux version of Netrunner.

    If you ALWAYS have a block instead of a blinking underscore in
    Linux, then where you added the Curr, High stuff.. the last
    character on that line there is bright yellow. Add a !07 after
    that or whatever you want your color to be and it will most
    likely change).

    eeeerrrrmmmm... we're wanting to change the color of the /block/ not
    what comes after it... i/we would rather that the block be an
    underscore or not even visible, really, until it is in an input
    field...

    The block not being an underscore is separate from the actual color of the block/underscore.

    If you were to add a !07 (or even !00 if you don't want it visible) after you set your Curr/High numbers with !14 (as seen on your dropbox pictures), it will
    change the color of the block. However, it will not change the fact that it's a
    block and not an underscore.. but it can be removed with !00 or possibly even !16.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Sat Mar 7 16:01:34 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 07 Mar 15 04:20, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    i will try to do that... i've gotta get some time to get on my laptop
    and do some much needed chores on it... since my christmas present arrived, i've been busy as hell on it and other projects are starting
    to lag behind... i haven't read email in 4 days and i really gotta transfer all that from my laptop to the beast where i'm spending most
    all of my time now...

    LOL. I'm going through the same thing you are. I haven't moved my golded/binkd VM from my old machine (which my son is using for gaming now) to my new one, or
    better yet, moving it to the BBS machine where it should be so I don't have to run VMs right now.

    Anyhow, when my son is playing, I have to use Putty to SSH into the VM and golded just looks like crap in Putty, no matter what I do. It's only temporary until I get my butt in gear and get things back in order, but.. the new rig is definitely more fun than dinking with anything else at the moment. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Mon Mar 9 03:16:49 2015
    On 03/07/15, Accession said the following...

    If you were to add a !07 (or even !00 if you don't want it visible)
    after you set your Curr/High numbers with !14 (as seen on your dropbox pictures), it will change the color of the block. However, it will not change the fact that it's a block and not an underscore.. but it can be removed with !00 or possibly even !16.

    i'd give the !00 a try but i don't even know where i would put it in the template stuff for the message reader, the message index or other similar screens... i/we want it blinking at the prompt as an indicator that it is awaiting input... i forget where else it shows up... where ever we put the code, it has to be the last color change for that instance...

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to wkitty42 on Mon Mar 9 17:08:18 2015
    Hello wkitty42,

    On 09 Mar 15 03:16, wkitty42 wrote to Accession:

    If you were to add a !07 (or even !00 if you don't want it
    visible) after you set your Curr/High numbers with !14 (as seen
    on your dropbox pictures), it will change the color of the block.
    However, it will not change the fact that it's a block and not an
    underscore.. but it can be removed with !00 or possibly even !16.

    i'd give the !00 a try but i don't even know where i would put it in
    the template stuff for the message reader, the message index or other similar screens... i/we want it blinking at the prompt as an indicator that it is awaiting input... i forget where else it shows up... where
    ever we put the code, it has to be the last color change for that instance...

    Did you (or whoever) not add the Curr and High msg numbers in bright yellow on the bottom right part of the screen? That is where the color of the block has been set to bright yellow. I don't believe I have those on my default ansimrd.ans so it led me to believe that part of the template was modified.

    With that said, all you need to do is load up the template in a text editor, and right after the MCI code for the high message number, add your color pipe code to change the block to whatever color you want it to be. You can even use ![Xxx and ![Yyy to locate the blinking block somewhere else if you want to.

    But the fact that it is a block for a cursor probably has to be addressed by g00r00, and might only be specific to the Linux version of Netrunner (due to an
    SDL problem maybe? Dunno..).

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/140 to Gryphon on Mon Mar 9 01:35:22 2015
    $ Gryphon was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors
    to > Ac> anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character
    to be > Ac> color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes substituted wi > Ac> !):

    it isn't always a prompt, though... look at these two snapshots... the yellow block in the bottom left on the blue bar in the first one and the cyan block in the second one i took while writing this message...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gluff7y19pbhrp8/NRb8-blockcursor-01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc039bv1i1wdbk0/NRb8-blockcursor-02.png?dl=0

    That is exactly the behavior I get when using NR on my linux desktop. I think that is what I originally reported in this thread. I'm going to go
    out on a limb and suggest it is an SDL thing, and not a netrunner, nor
    mystic thing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Umm, that is just the default that netrunner has setup. It has nothing to do with SDL, a specific bbs software, terminal or anything else. I'm sure g00r00 will change it when he feels like it. :)

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/140 to Accession on Mon Mar 9 01:43:30 2015
    $ Accession was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The block not being an underscore is separate from the actual color of the block/underscore.

    If you were to add a !07 (or even !00 if you don't want it visible) after
    you set your Curr/High numbers with !14 (as seen on your dropbox
    pictures), it will change the color of the block. However, it will not
    change the fact that it's a block and not an underscore.. but it can be removed with !00 or possibly even !16.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Actually if you know your ESC sequences, your better off using ESC[?25h and ESC[?25l for hide and show cursor. :)

    Have fun..

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  • From wkitty42@46:1/132 to Accession on Wed Mar 11 08:29:02 2015
    On 03/09/15, Accession said the following...

    Did you (or whoever) not add the Curr and High msg numbers in bright yellow on the bottom right part of the screen? That is where the color
    of the block has been set to bright yellow. I don't believe I have those on my default ansimrd.ans so it led me to believe that part of the template was modified.

    ummm... i don't recall... i think that's on my installation... if so, very little on it has been changed from the defaults... i remember in the message index setup that i changed the progress bar to be on the bottom instead of
    the side... i'll have to go back and look... either way, thanks for the above... with these templates, i was unsure if /my/ last color setting was
    used or if mystic might make other color settings changes when it writes to
    the defined screen area of the template...

    But the fact that it is a block for a cursor probably has to be
    addressed by g00r00,

    that's what we've been saying all along... at least, /i/ have been... that after clarifying that the bbs cannot change how the cursor looks in a terminal...

    and might only be specific to the Linux version of
    Netrunner (due to an SDL problem maybe? Dunno..).

    might be... i don't know either :)

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  • From Gryphon@46:1/116 to Mercyful Fate on Wed Mar 11 09:33:10 2015
    On 03/09/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

    $ Gryphon was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    On 03/04/15, Accession said the following...

    If that's indeed true, I don't think Mystic has ever reset colors
    to > Ac> anything "default" in a prompt. If you want an input character to be > Ac> color, you have to specify it in the prompt, ie (pipes substituted wi > Ac> !):

    it isn't always a prompt, though... look at these two snapshots... the yellow block in the bottom left on the blue bar in the first one and t cyan block in the second one i took while writing this message...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gluff7y19pbhrp8/NRb8-blockcursor-01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc039bv1i1wdbk0/NRb8-blockcursor-02.png?dl=0

    That is exactly the behavior I get when using NR on my linux desktop. I think that is what I originally reported in this thread. I'm going to g out on a limb and suggest it is an SDL thing, and not a netrunner, nor mystic thing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Umm, that is just the default that netrunner has setup. It has nothing
    to do with SDL, a specific bbs software, terminal or anything else. I'm sure g00r00 will change it when he feels like it. :)

    Ok, I'll tend to agree with that. Syncterm on linux uses sdl too, and it doesn't have that block cursor.

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Mercyful Fate on Wed Mar 11 16:42:34 2015
    Hello Mercyful,

    On 09 Mar 15 01:35, Mercyful Fate wrote to Gryphon:

    Umm, that is just the default that netrunner has setup. It has
    nothing to do with SDL, a specific bbs software, terminal or anything else. I'm sure g00r00 will change it when he feels like it. :)

    I think the main point there is that it has already been addressed for the Windows version.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Gryphon on Wed Mar 11 16:46:38 2015
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 11 Mar 15 09:33, Gryphon wrote to Mercyful Fate:

    Ok, I'll tend to agree with that. Syncterm on linux uses sdl too, and
    it doesn't have that block cursor.

    Just an FYI, Syncterm uses SDL 1.0, whereas Netrunner uses SDL 2.0. There are bugs in 2.0 that are not in 1.0. This is what we were referring to when saying the cursor is on the Windows version, but not the Linux version. If the code was changed to fix the Windows version, you'd think it should work on the Linux
    version, too.. So something different may have to be done.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/104 to Gryphon on Thu Mar 12 04:25:00 2015
    Umm, that is just the default that netrunner has setup. It has noth to do with SDL, a specific bbs software, terminal or anything else. sure g00r00 will change it when he feels like it. :)

    Ok, I'll tend to agree with that. Syncterm on linux uses sdl too, and it doesn't have that block cursor.

    Indeed! Netrunner windows had a block cursor at first too, he changed
    windows and never updated linux. So i'm sure he will get to it everntually, it's not a bug or anything, it's just the character he selected to use.

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/104 to Accession on Thu Mar 12 04:28:00 2015
    Umm, that is just the default that netrunner has setup. It has nothing to do with SDL, a specific bbs software, terminal or anythin else. I'm sure g00r00 will change it when he feels like it. :)

    I think the main point there is that it has already been addressed for
    the Windows version.

    indeed it has :), surprised it's not the same all around, but only he knows
    how his builds are setup. ;)

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Mercyful Fate on Thu Mar 12 16:56:46 2015
    Hello Mercyful,

    On 12 Mar 15 04:28, Mercyful Fate wrote to Accession:

    indeed it has :), surprised it's not the same all around, but only he knows how his builds are setup. ;)

    Welp, if your telnet program uses an underscore in the Linux version, at least we know it can be fixed! :)

    I don't do anything GUI based in Linux these days. I have my gaming rig, and my
    son is using the i5 these days to play his Minecraft and Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare. :)

    One of these days I'll have to show him what I do, but it already seems as though he's uninterested in the ansis scrolling by. He just wants to game (he's
    7). LOL

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/104 to Accession on Sat Mar 14 02:30:00 2015
    indeed it has :), surprised it's not the same all around, but only h knows how his builds are setup. ;)

    Welp, if your telnet program uses an underscore in the Linux version, at least we know it can be fixed! :)

    I use an underscore, in all environments, but thats becasue i created the pixels to do an underscore. It's whatever pixels you setup to represent the cursor, there is no cursor per-se, it's all pixels just like each character it's manually coded to display as such. anything can be fixed or change to however the designer chooses.

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Mercyful Fate on Sat Mar 14 09:14:54 2015
    Hello Mercyful,

    On 14 Mar 15 02:30, Mercyful Fate wrote to Accession:

    I use an underscore, in all environments, but thats becasue i created
    the pixels to do an underscore. It's whatever pixels you setup to represent the cursor, there is no cursor per-se, it's all pixels just
    like each character it's manually coded to display as such. anything
    can be fixed or change to however the designer chooses.

    Then I have no idea why there's a block there. I never figured g00 would choose
    to go that route originally, but whatever.

    Apparantly the alt/beep thing as well as the click the title bar to refocus the
    window seems to want to start highlighting stuff to copy to the clipboard - are
    unfixable at the moment until they update SDL2 to handle these?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mercyful Fate@46:1/140 to Accession on Sun Mar 15 04:06:10 2015
    $ Accession was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hello Mercyful,

    On 14 Mar 15 02:30, Mercyful Fate wrote to Accession:

    I use an underscore, in all environments, but thats becasue i created
    the pixels to do an underscore. It's whatever pixels you setup to represent the cursor, there is no cursor per-se, it's all pixels just
    like each character it's manually coded to display as such. anything
    can be fixed or change to however the designer chooses.

    Then I have no idea why there's a block there. I never figured g00 would choose to go that route originally, but whatever.

    Apparantly the alt/beep thing as well as the click the title bar to
    refocus the window seems to want to start highlighting stuff to copy to
    the clipboard - are unfixable at the moment until they update SDL2 to
    handle these?
    Regards,
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, he did mention the block cursor as what he setup a long time ago, and fixed it in windows, but i guess forgot about linux. So I believe when he
    gets time and see's everyone talking about it, he'll take the time to adjust
    it to a different layout of pixels.

    As for the title bar clicking, that is an SDL issue. The SDL team
    will have to rework and fix the problem. The problem is casued by the mouse click registering a BUTTON_DOWN event when a click happens on the title bar, however it never does a BUTTON_UP event on the release. This casues the
    system to believe the button is being held down until the next mouse click
    and release is done on the actual canvas / inside of the window.

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  • From Accession@46:1/701 to Mercyful Fate on Thu Mar 19 18:26:46 2015
    Hello Mercyful,

    On 15 Mar 15 04:06, Mercyful Fate wrote to Accession:

    As for the title bar clicking, that is an SDL issue. The SDL team
    will have to rework and fix the problem. The problem is casued by the mouse click registering a BUTTON_DOWN event when a click happens on
    the title bar, however it never does a BUTTON_UP event on the release. This casues the system to believe the button is being held down until
    the next mouse click and release is done on the actual canvas / inside
    of the window.

    Yep. Though I did find a bit of a workaround. If you click inside the window itself, and not the title bar, it works in one shot and doesn't try to highlight anything. So at least there's that until someone does something about
    it.

    Regards,
    Nick

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