Hello All,

I almost bought an ODROID XU4 the other day. I was all the way to my shopping cart (board, clear case, and 64gb eMMC flash drive), and all I had to do was hit the buy button. I chickened out (or rather decided I probably shouldn't drop almost $200 immediately after Christmas) at the last minute and closed the
window. LOL

That said, my birthday is in less than 2 weeks, so I may have to get it as a present for myself. It would be another neat thing to tinker with, now that the
RPi3's are already serving their purpose. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/05/17, Accession said the following...

Hello All,

I almost bought an ODROID XU4 the other day. I was all the way to my shopping cart (board, clear case, and 64gb eMMC flash drive), and all I had to do was hit the buy button. I chickened out (or rather decided I probably shouldn't drop almost $200 immediately after Christmas) at the last minute and closed the window. LOL

That said, my birthday is in less than 2 weeks, so I may have to get it
as a present for myself. It would be another neat thing to tinker with, now that the RPi3's are already serving their purpose. :)

I know Gryphon runs or least did run his from an odroid not sure if hes back
on a Pi or not but seems to run great for what its used for.

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Hello Pequito,

On Sat Jan 07 2017 18:29:30, Pequito wrote to Accession:

I know Gryphon runs or least did run his from an odroid not sure if
hes back on a Pi or not but seems to run great for what its used for.

I knew he had one, but never knew exactly what he was using it for. I'm just interested in the fact that there's 64bit Linux support for that device, whereas there is not for Raspberry Pis. Plus it has twice the power (octocore instead of a quad core, and 2gb ram instead of 1gb ram). We'll see.

I'm still waiting for Weatherman to upgrade his server rack so I can have his HP server with however many xeon processors it has and like 64gb ram. LOL

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/07/17, Accession said the following...

Hello Pequito,

On Sat Jan 07 2017 18:29:30, Pequito wrote to Accession:

I know Gryphon runs or least did run his from an odroid not sure if hes back on a Pi or not but seems to run great for what its used for.

I knew he had one, but never knew exactly what he was using it for. I'm just interested in the fact that there's 64bit Linux support for that device, whereas there is not for Raspberry Pis. Plus it has twice the power (octocore instead of a quad core, and 2gb ram instead of 1gb ram). We'll see.

I'm still waiting for Weatherman to upgrade his server rack so I can
have his HP server with however many xeon processors it has and like
64gb ram. LOL

Nice yeah the odroid has much more power but a little more expensive but
worth the tag price in my opinion over pi. I will not use servers like those
@ home I work with them enough when I am at work. :)

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$ Accession was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I knew he had one, but never knew exactly what he was using it for. I'm
just interested in the fact that there's 64bit Linux support for that
device, whereas there is not for Raspberry Pis. Plus it has twice the
power (octocore instead of a quad core, and 2gb ram instead of 1gb ram). We'll see.
I'm still waiting for Weatherman to upgrade his server rack so I can have
his HP server with however many xeon processors it has and like 64gb ram.
LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I didn't know the Pi3 doesn't have 64 bit builds? that seems pretty strange.. Althoug the odroid has some dream spec's for sure, it's also double the price. so i guess it depends what your using it for.

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Hello Mercyful,

On Sun Jan 08 2017 19:46:02, Mercyful Fate wrote to Accession:

I didn't know the Pi3 doesn't have 64 bit builds? that seems pretty strange.. Althoug the odroid has some dream spec's for sure, it's also double the price. so i guess it depends what your using it for.

It seems some are coming around recently, they're still fairly to mostly unsupported. While they have the aarm64 chips, I don't think any major distro developers every really wanted to do anything for them or get too involved, as with only 1gb ram there was really no major differences when running 64bit compared to just running the 32bit OSs.

And while running servers on these things, I don't really think I want to venture into unsupported operating systems at the moment either. I don't want more headaches at this time.

On the other hand, ODROID has had 64bit releases for quite some time now. So I would think they're a lot further along at least in the single board arena, and
now that I've made the switch, I'm most likely not going back to running on a full desktop PC any more. I didn't expect it, but it was actually quite a big relief when I shut down the AMD 3700+ that had been running here for over 12 years non-stop. I got used to the noise, which became louder and louder of the last couple years. It definitely hasn't been the same around here (noisewise) since it has been turned off. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/05/17, Accession said the following...

Hello All,

I almost bought an ODROID XU4 the other day. I was all the way to my shopping cart (board, clear case, and 64gb eMMC flash drive), and all I had to do was hit the buy button. I chickened out (or rather decided I probably shouldn't drop almost $200 immediately after Christmas) at the last minute and closed the window. LOL

That said, my birthday is in less than 2 weeks, so I may have to get it
as a present for myself. It would be another neat thing to tinker with, now that the RPi3's are already serving their purpose. :)

I know that urge well. I'm currently looking into building a kodi media
center and would like to use an RPi3B because it has built-in wifi. I
already have the odroid XU4 and use it as my desktop. I compare that to my Acer Aspire with 4GB of memory, and the ODROID is far and away the faster and more powerful device.

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On 01/07/17, Pequito said the following...

On 01/05/17, Accession said the following...

Hello All,

I almost bought an ODROID XU4 the other day. I was all the way to my shopping cart (board, clear case, and 64gb eMMC flash drive), and all had to do was hit the buy button. I chickened out (or rather decided probably shouldn't drop almost $200 immediately after Christmas) at t last minute and closed the window. LOL

That said, my birthday is in less than 2 weeks, so I may have to get as a present for myself. It would be another neat thing to tinker wit now that the RPi3's are already serving their purpose. :)

I know Gryphon runs or least did run his from an odroid not sure if hes back on a Pi or not but seems to run great for what its used for.

Yes, I use my ODROID XU4 as my desktop. I use my RPi3B as my BBS/webserver.
I also have a RPi2 that I'm trying to find a use for. I thought of using it
as a kodi box, but it doesn't have Wifi and only has limited USB slots.

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On 01/08/17, Mercyful Fate said the following...

$ Accession was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I knew he had one, but never knew exactly what he was using it for. I'm just interested in the fact that there's 64bit Linux support for that device, whereas there is not for Raspberry Pis. Plus it has twice the power (octocore instead of a quad core, and 2gb ram instead of 1gb ram). We'll see.
I'm still waiting for Weatherman to upgrade his server rack so I can hav his HP server with however many xeon processors it has and like 64gb ram LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I didn't know the Pi3 doesn't have 64 bit builds? that seems pretty strange.. Althoug the odroid has some dream spec's for sure, it's also double the price. so i guess it depends what your using it for.

Yes, it's a bit more expensive than the Pi. But I recently put a bunch of items in the cart at ameridroid.com just to compare the full prices for both the RPi3B and the XU4, and you are correct. The XU4 (with all the same features and accessories as the RPi), is roughly twice the cost of the RPi3B. The main extra cost is the eMMC chip with is $65 for a 64GB module. Whereas the 64GB SD card is only $29.

Here's what I get:
ODOROID $156.75
XU4
Power Supply
Wifi Adapater
Translucent black case
64GB eMMC w/adapter

Raspberry Pi 3B+ $78.48
3B+
Power Supply
(Built-in Wi-Fi)
Black Case
64GB SD card

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Hello Gryphon,

On Mon Jan 09 2017 14:30:22, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

I know that urge well. I'm currently looking into building a kodi
media center and would like to use an RPi3B because it has built-in
wifi. I already have the odroid XU4 and use it as my desktop. I
compare that to my Acer Aspire with 4GB of memory, and the ODROID is
far and away the faster and more powerful device.

Not sure if you've dabbled in this realm yet or not, but I'm currently running plex-media-server on one of my RPi3's, and it doesn't seem to want to play anything larger than 720p HD (non-blu ray). As soon as I try to play a blu ray movie it actually gives a warning message saying the server isn't powerful enough. :(

So keep that in mind when you add movies to your media center, in case you see anything similar.

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/09/17, Accession said the following...

Hello Gryphon,

On Mon Jan 09 2017 14:30:22, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

I know that urge well. I'm currently looking into building a kodi media center and would like to use an RPi3B because it has built-in wifi. I already have the odroid XU4 and use it as my desktop. I compare that to my Acer Aspire with 4GB of memory, and the ODROID is far and away the faster and more powerful device.

Not sure if you've dabbled in this realm yet or not, but I'm currently running plex-media-server on one of my RPi3's, and it doesn't seem to
want to play anything larger than 720p HD (non-blu ray). As soon as I
try to play a blu ray movie it actually gives a warning message saying
the server isn't powerful enough. :(

Check your file format, make sure they are MP4 or MKV, if they are anything else I noticed it takes a bus load more resources for plex to attempt to
stream it. Plex also has a built in conversion tool if you do not have one outside of it can convert the files then replace them with the new MP4 versions. Just my observation when using Plex.

I placed a monitor on CPU and Memory and both show a pretty big spike with other formats.

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Hello Pequito,

On Mon Jan 09 2017 17:42:58, Pequito wrote to Accession:

Not sure if you've dabbled in this realm yet or not, but I'm
currently running plex-media-server on one of my RPi3's, and it
doesn't seem to want to play anything larger than 720p HD
(non-blu ray). As soon as I try to play a blu ray movie it
actually gives a warning message saying the server isn't powerful
enough. :(

Check your file format, make sure they are MP4 or MKV, if they are anything else I noticed it takes a bus load more resources for plex to attempt to stream it. Plex also has a built in conversion tool if you
do not have one outside of it can convert the files then replace them
with the new MP4 versions. Just my observation when using Plex.

I placed a monitor on CPU and Memory and both show a pretty big spike
with other formats.

You may be on to something here. I do know for a fact that one of the 1080p blu
ray movies I have does indeed play, and taking a look it is indeed MKV format. The couple I remember having issues with are in AVI format.

I'll have to take a look into converting those and see if it helps any.

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/09/17, Accession said the following...

Hello Gryphon,

On Mon Jan 09 2017 14:30:22, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

I know that urge well. I'm currently looking into building a kodi media center and would like to use an RPi3B because it has built-in wifi. I already have the odroid XU4 and use it as my desktop. I compare that to my Acer Aspire with 4GB of memory, and the ODROID is far and away the faster and more powerful device.

Not sure if you've dabbled in this realm yet or not, but I'm currently running plex-media-server on one of my RPi3's, and it doesn't seem to
want to play anything larger than 720p HD (non-blu ray). As soon as I
try to play a blu ray movie it actually gives a warning message saying
the server isn't powerful enough. :(

So keep that in mind when you add movies to your media center, in case
you see anything similar.

I don't think blue-ray will be a problem for me. The primary reason I wanted to dabble in a media server was so that I could digitize my DVD collection
and reclaim my shelf space. But I stopped buying DVD's about 5 years ago. I ended up doing the DVD rental from Netflix or Redbox, and then moved on to streaming when more titles became available that way. I have yet to delve
into blue-ray, as I do not intend to buy a blue-ray player.

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Hello Gryphon,

On Tue Jan 10 2017 08:50:20, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

So keep that in mind when you add movies to your media center, in
case you see anything similar.

I don't think blue-ray will be a problem for me. The primary reason I wanted to dabble in a media server was so that I could digitize my DVD collection and reclaim my shelf space. But I stopped buying DVD's
about 5 years ago. I ended up doing the DVD rental from Netflix or Redbox, and then moved on to streaming when more titles became
available that way. I have yet to delve into blue-ray, as I do not
intend to buy a blue-ray player.

You don't need to buy blu-ray player to stream digitized blu-ray movies. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/10/17, Accession said the following...

Hello Gryphon,

On Tue Jan 10 2017 08:50:20, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

So keep that in mind when you add movies to your media center, in
case you see anything similar.

I don't think blue-ray will be a problem for me. The primary reason wanted to dabble in a media server was so that I could digitize my DV collection and reclaim my shelf space. But I stopped buying DVD's about 5 years ago. I ended up doing the DVD rental from Netflix or Redbox, and then moved on to streaming when more titles became available that way. I have yet to delve into blue-ray, as I do not intend to buy a blue-ray player.

You don't need to buy blu-ray player to stream digitized blu-ray movies. :)

One wonders how you can digitize a blue-ray movie if you don't have a means
for digitizing it.

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Hello Gryphon,

On Tue Jan 10 2017 14:22:14, Gryphon wrote to Accession:

You don't need to buy blu-ray player to stream digitized blu-ray
movies.
:)

One wonders how you can digitize a blue-ray movie if you don't have a means for digitizing it.

Unless you're ordering your streamed movies from somewhere that doesn't do it, you can definitely stream blu-ray movies without a blu-ray player. You just have to get the movie in the proper format, is all.

Regards,
Nick

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On 01/05/17, Accession said the following...

Hello All,

I almost bought an ODROID XU4 the other day. I was all the way to my shopping cart (board, clear case, and 64gb eMMC flash drive), and all I had to do was hit the buy button. I chickened out (or rather decided I probably shouldn't drop almost $200 immediately after Christmas) at the last minute and closed the window. LOL

Sorry for the late response on this. :P I've done that almost a dozen times because of the power difference between the ODROID XU4 and RPi3. But the
RPi3 always wins out at the end. I might purchase one in the long run though as a portable dev system when I don't want to lug around my laptop everywhere
I go. Everything seems to be so heavy once you get a hold of one of these
mini board systems.

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Hello Smooth,

On Fri Apr 14 2017 07:41:08, Smooth wrote to Accession:

Sorry for the late response on this. :P I've done that almost a dozen times because of the power difference between the ODROID XU4 and RPi3.
But the RPi3 always wins out at the end. I might purchase one in the
long run though as a portable dev system when I don't want to lug
around my laptop everywhere I go. Everything seems to be so heavy
once you get a hold of one of these mini board systems.

The power difference and the fact that 64bit Linux distributions support it a lot better than RPi3s.

My current RPi3 doesn't seem to have enough power (sporadic at times?) to run plex-media-server. But as of right now it doesn't seem to be a issue worth addressing as the complaints in the house are few and far between. :)

Regards,
Nick

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