Hi guys,

I'm not that experienced in Linux os but have been using Ubuntu for a while
and am slowly learning the ropes.

A current hobby project for me at present has been to learn to configure a Usenet server that runs on a tux os. I have configured things ok on the
Ubuntu system but received advice that it would be better to use something
more stable like Debian as a server os.

So, pulled down a copy of Debian 8 and installed it. On the face of it it
looks similar to Ubuntu (I understand it was it's parent of sorts) and it
seems ok also.

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

Best, Paul

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On 07/15/15, Avon said the following...

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

ubuntu is based off of debian... debian is more stability prone whereas ubuntu it more ahead of the game and closer to the bleeding edge... not on the bleeding edge but closer then debian...

as for a server OS, i use ubuntu server LTS... it comes with the basics
needed (L.A.M.P.) and is easy to add additional packages to... it doesn't come with a GUI which is good because you should be using memory for the server services and not fancy graphics...

i use LTS because servers should be stable and not upgrading their OS all the time... i run LTS until the security updates stop and then move to the next LTS... in some cases, i've gone the route of OS upgrade from one LTS to the next one... that may leave some residual cruft behind or there may be some things that one needs to resolve manually if new versions of software don't like older existing configuration options... in other cases, i've installed
the new LTS clean, added my additional packages and then moved my data
over... this is probably the best way but it requires two machines, the old server and the new one...

the new install and two machines method also gives you the chance to update
the hardware to the latest since LTS gives you 5 years... that's plenty of
time to get most of the hardware investment back before upgrading to new hardware... then the old server hardware can be held back as a spare or may
be recycled as another server or even a high(er) end workstation... that is
if one doesn't mind riding 5 years behind the crest of the wave... most of my machines here are 12+ years old and on their 3rd or 4th life cycle providing other services than when they were first built...

now i'm off back to trying to get access to my main bbs/mail/web server box so i can see what damage the storm at 0600 monday morning did to it... can't lay my hands on it where it is currently placed and with so much other hardware piled around it... spent yesterday cleaning up a bit and tossing out some
older stuff, getting the phone line fixed and finally getting the firewall machine back operational... power supply (good volts, bad amps), kvm switch (blown apart), video card (no visible damage), nic (no visible damage), 8-port switch/hub (no visible damage), ps2 keyboard (had to switch to usb
keyboard)... i'm hoping the bbs isn't too bad off and that i will have the necessary spare parts from other machines already gutted... not very happy right now but not as depressed as i was since i got the firewall back up and operational... at least i can get to some of my email accounts and onto the web... extremely glad it wasn't my new box with all the VMs of the other
older systems we've turned off...

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On 07/15/15, Avon said the following...

I'm not that experienced in Linux os but have been using Ubuntu for a while and am slowly learning the ropes.

That's a good place to start, even to stay if you are comfortable there. My first linux distro that I was able to use and get stuff done on was red hat, before they went commercial. After that I went to Mandrake and liked it. Then they changed their name to mandriva and I didn't want to run something called mandriva (picky, eh!?) so I went to debian. That was ~10 years ago. I have considered myself a debianite and been at home there ever since.

Oddly I installed Slackware, just for old times sake about 9 months ago and have been there ever since. I don't think I'll be moving anytime soon but
maybe one day.. :)

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

I swear by so many of them it's really hard to nail it down to anything. Use what you like!

ArchLinux is worth a look, it's a rolling release so you always have the
latest software and kernel whereas debian (if you use stable) has what it had when it was released and only security (or important) updates are available.

Linux is all about having a choice and if you use it you'll just have to make one. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Distos
By: Avon to All on Wed Jul 15 2015 09:39 pm

So, pulled down a copy of Debian 8 and installed it. On the face of it it looks similar to Ubuntu (I understand it was it's parent of sorts) and it seems ok also.

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

I use Debian in very specific scenarios only, personally. I refuse to ever use a Canonical product.. Partly political, partly just plain sanity.

I swear by CentOS though for server grade. It's tested, proven, and always rock solid. When you /need/ things not included, building an RPM spec to make RPM's from just takes knowledge of how the build process works itself, example spec files, perhaps a HOWTO as well, and you too can make an RPM of practically anything you need.

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Re: Distos
By: Avon to All on Wed Jul 15 2015 21:39:41

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

For a long time I have used Puppy Linux, which is based on Slackware. It is a very lightweight desktop with decent applications. I made use of this on my old Dell. For the last couple of years, Ubuntu has been my goto distro since aquiring more powerful hardware. I have not really set up any servers, other then an FTP service running on the old Dell I mentioned. I have played with or used other distros over the years such of Knoppix and some small disros such as DSL, Feather Linux, Basic Linux, etc.

On 07/15/15, wkitty42 pondered and said...

ubuntu is based off of debian... debian is more stability prone whereas ubuntu it more ahead of the game and closer to the bleeding edge... not
on the bleeding edge but closer then debian...

Hey wkitty42.. thanks for the detailed overview and LTS suggestions. I run a low power fm station as a hobby and use Utbuntu LTS distros to run the on-air software (Rivendell) and agree LTS is the way to go.

I'm left wondering about the Debian stablity vs Ubuntu LTS path?

now i'm off back to trying to get access to my main bbs/mail/web server box so i can see what damage the storm at 0600 monday morning did to
it... can't lay my hands on it where it is currently placed and with so

Yipes you did get bad.

machines already gutted... not very happy right now but not as depressed as i was since i got the firewall back up and operational... at least i can get to some of my email accounts and onto the web... extremely glad
it wasn't my new box with all the VMs of the other older systems we've

Best of luck, keep us posted. Sending good vibes your way ;)

Best, Paul

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On 07/15/15, Al pondered and said...

That's a good place to start, even to stay if you are comfortable there.

Yes it's been a helpful place to begin and now looking at Debian the apt-get commands etc. all feel familiar.

red hat, before they went commercial. After that I went to Mandrake and liked it. Then they changed their name to mandriva and I didn't want to run something called mandriva (picky, eh!?) so I went to debian. That

Sounds like a place in a Lord of the Rings storyline! Ok so your a Debian person also, cool.

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

I swear by so many of them it's really hard to nail it down to anything. Use what you like!

Yeah I kinda figured this may be an exercise like asking what's your
favourite flavour of ice cream. Still it can't hurt to see which flavours
stand out ;)

ArchLinux is worth a look, it's a rolling release so you always have the latest software and kernel whereas debian (if you use stable) has what
it had when it was released and only security (or important) updates are available.

Thanks... I can myself playing with other distros but for now will focus on Debian and the work I need to get things set up to run INN2

Just working with my telco so establish a static IP for my home. Have a
gigabit fibre connection now (stats - http://www.speedtest.net/result/4508079961.png ) and I want to make the most
of it :)

Best, Paul

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On 07/15/15, Psi-Jack pondered and said...

I use Debian in very specific scenarios only, personally. I refuse to
ever use a Canonical product.. Partly political, partly just plain
sanity.

Curious about this? Is it that they have commercialised Linux or offer a interface that (from what I read) a lot of tux fans just hate with a passion.

I did laugh when I installed Debian Jessie and saw a broswer called Ice
Weazel that looked 99% like Firefox ;)

I swear by CentOS though for server grade. It's tested, proven, and
always rock solid. When you /need/ things not included, building an RPM

Cool thanks - In time I will take a look at it. Do you happen to know if the INN2 package is well supported in its repositories?

Best, Paul

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On 07/15/15, Mr. Cool pondered and said...

For a long time I have used Puppy Linux, which is based on Slackware.
It is a very lightweight desktop with decent applications. I made use
of this on my old Dell. For the last couple of years, Ubuntu has been
my goto distro since aquiring more powerful hardware. I have not really

Hi there, and thanks for taking the time to reply ;)

Never heard of Puppy Linux but certainly (as you would have read) have spent time with Ubuntu over the last couple (or so) years.

Ubuntu did a good job of making tux accessiable IMHO but for those of us curious about what's under the hood I think it gets to a point where you want to try other distros to see how else things are set up etc.

Hope you are enjoying your summer, it's freeezing in New Zealand right now :(

Best, Paul

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$ Avon was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You have a lot of choices in the Linux realm. To me, operating systems (not just Linux) are tools in a toolbox and there are better choices for certain jobs (and certainly a lot of personal preference). As for myself, here are
some recomendations:

Desktop: Elementary OS (http://elementaryos.org). It's base is Ubuntu
(and any help/tips/articles/etc. you find on Ubuntu generally apply) but as a desktop it's MUCH more polished IMO. I swear by it.

Web/Security/Etc. Server: CentOS is my goto here. Ubuntu Server is probably second in line, but CentOS is just so solid. Ubuntu has jumped around with too many technologies while CentOS has just gotten better each release. It's basically just the free version of RHEL.

Out of the box Kodi (formerly XBMC): OpenELEC is very nice.

FreeBSD (I know, not linux): Is amazing for serving up multiple things via jails, and the BSD's blow away the Linux IP stack so they are great for things like routers. I suggest pfSense here. For routers I'd always go BSD > Linux.

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Re: Re: Distos
By: Avon to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 11:10 am

I use Debian in very specific scenarios only, personally. I refuse
to ever use a Canonical product.. Partly political, partly just
plain sanity.

Curious about this? Is it that they have commercialised Linux or offer a interface that (from what I read) a lot of tux fans just hate with a passion.

I did laugh when I installed Debian Jessie and saw a broswer called Ice Weazel that looked 99% like Firefox ;)

Heh. Just to name a few specific reasons:
upstart: they pioneered it, and it was the worst init in history.

unity: Is it GTK+? Qt? GTK+? Qt? Why do they keep chaning? And why would you ever make a big fat sidebar on a dual-monitor setup where both monitors have the bar, plus they added mouse resistence when moving between monitors.. Oh, yeah, and originally it was "designed" for netbooks. Yet was the /worst/ at that. ;)

mir: Canonical originally was claiming to devote time into helping support development of Wayland. Suddenly out of the blue they denounced it and proclaimed their new and coming product, Mir. A slap in the face to the /entire/ linux community. To which many hardware vendors, including Intel, denounced support for XMir within the first few months.

(name forgotten): Yet they still have this. Automated system updates and control. However, if you enable it, you eventually start to get nagged about paying for the full product itself. Even if you never use it. :)

I swear by CentOS though for server grade. It's tested, proven, and
always rock solid. When you /need/ things not included, building an
RPM

Cool thanks - In time I will take a look at it. Do you happen to know if the INN2 package is well supported in its repositories?

INN isn't in CentOS's own repositories, but it's supported in EPEL. That's basically Fedora's "Enterprise Packages for Enterprise Linux." Which is awesome.

Available Packages
Name : inn
Arch : x86_64
Version : 2.5.3
Release : 18.el7
Size : 1.3 M
Repo : epel/x86_64
Summary : The InterNetNews system, an Usenet news server

That's what I'm seeing for it off the bat. :)

I literally just finished migrating my BBS from Manjaro to CentOS 7, finally, and the migration is fairly flawless for me already.

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Re: Re: Distos
By: NuSkooler to Avon on Wed Jul 15 2015 10:42 pm

Web/Security/Etc. Server: CentOS is my goto here. Ubuntu Server is probably second in line, but CentOS is just so solid. Ubuntu has jumped around with too many technologies while CentOS has just gotten better each release. It's basically just the free version of RHEL.

Heh. I just wish CentOS/Fedora would hurry up and stop using Mozilla NSS for TLS/SSL, and get back to using OpenSSL. The only reason RHEL went with Mozilla NSS is because they had FIPS compliant first. heh

FreeBSD (I know, not linux): Is amazing for serving up multiple things via jails, and the BSD's blow away the Linux IP stack so they are great for things like routers. I suggest pfSense here. For routers I'd always go BSD

Linux.

I've always hated BSD's pf. Last matching rule wins is bassackwards, and silly. :)
Linux, first matching rule wins, and stop processing through the entire list of hundreds/thousands of rules. :D
</rant> ;)

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On 07/15/15, NuSkooler pondered and said...

You have a lot of choices in the Linux realm. To me, operating systems (not just Linux) are tools in a toolbox and there are better choices for certain jobs (and certainly a lot of personal preference). As for

Hey there... thanks so much for the reply and helpful info. I'll be sure to take a look at those options in the coming weeks ahead.

Best, Paul

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On 07/16/15, Psi-Jack pondered and said...

Heh. Just to name a few specific reasons:

[snip]

Wow... I just learnt a lot, thanks and yep tend to agree with a lot of what
you said. Although some of the tech aspects of your commentary I am still
vague on being a relative noob to tux ;)

INN isn't in CentOS's own repositories, but it's supported in EPEL.

Thanks for having a look. That's good to know.

I literally just finished migrating my BBS from Manjaro to CentOS 7, finally, and the migration is fairly flawless for me already.

Cool. It's a good feeling when it all works. Although getting it all to work
is half the fun I find.

Best, Paul

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On 07/16/15, Avon said the following...

machines already gutted... not very happy right now but not as depres as i was since i got the firewall back up and operational... at least can get to some of my email accounts and onto the web... extremely gl it wasn't my new box with all the VMs of the other older systems we'v

Best of luck, keep us posted. Sending good vibes your way ;)

thanks, A! i seem to have received them well and good...

finally got to the bbs machine and extracted it from its hole... bright lights, magnifying glass and three or four sets of eyes looking over all the circuit boards didn't find anything damaged... testing the power supply showed good voltages and no faults... crossing fingers we hooked it up directly to a monitor, keyboard and mouse and turned it on...

initial boot came up and looked great to the BIOS screen so we prepared to break the boot at the next screen and go to the command prompt only... that worked fine, the file system checking was successful and found no bad or lost file pieces... whew! time for the full monty... we considered another boot break where everything comes up except the bbs/mail/web stuff to give us another chance to look things over but we let it ride... first connection pulled 38meg of traffic in 322 files in ~4 minutes... tossing went perfect as did delivery to my downstreams which also served to notify them that we were back online...

went for a much needed beverage when that was over...

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On 07/16/15, Avon said the following...

On 07/15/15, wkitty42 pondered and said...

ubuntu is based off of debian... debian is more stability prone where ubuntu it more ahead of the game and closer to the bleeding edge... n on the bleeding edge but closer then debian...

Hey wkitty42.. thanks for the detailed overview and LTS suggestions. I
run a low power fm station as a hobby and use Utbuntu LTS distros to run the on-air software (Rivendell) and agree LTS is the way to go.

definitely... especially with 5 years of support, updates and fixes...

I'm left wondering about the Debian stablity vs Ubuntu LTS path?

i have a couple of wheezy VMs here... they are very stable... i kinda prefer the LTS path because it does bring some new versions when they are available and not only just security/bug fixes... i've been very happy with the
original pointer to the ubuntu server stuff and the decision to give it a try... it enabled me to move from a pretty messy installation to a very clean and maintained one with little real effort... copied web tree over, copied mysql database files over, done... since then, though, there's been a bit of enhancement and adjustment but still easy going...

everything i do on the server it done from the command line... generally
using midnight commander to poke around and view/edit files... i use aptitude to update, install, and safe-upgrade packages on the system... safe-upgrade especially as i have had problems in the past with apt-get or another package manager that was just a tad too agressive... safe-upgrade hasn't failed me yet... aside from that, updating web pages, adding media, adjusting the mail server are all quite easily done via ftp, scp, or ssh...

it works quite well, too, as our internal central mail system... mail from
the outside goes through an initial scanning/filtering smtp server on the firewall and then goes to the mail server on the main bbs machine... traffic for that domain stays there and all other traffic goes on to the LTS server where it is split out and sent on to the proper internal domains for further handling... gated email to/from fidonet goes through four servers before being gated... scanning/filtering firewall server, main bbs server, central
internal server, back to the bbs' gigosmtp server and into .BAG files for processing by the GIGO gating package... it is pretty neat and has worked
well for a while but there's a change coming to the path and routing pretty soon... just working out the details ;)

oops... still mind drained... sorry for the ramble...

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On 07/15/15, Al said the following...

On 07/15/15, Avon said the following...

I'm not that experienced in Linux os but have been using Ubuntu for a while and am slowly learning the ropes.

That's a good place to start, even to stay if you are comfortable there. My first linux distro that I was able to use and get stuff done on was
red hat, before they went commercial. After that I went to Mandrake and liked it. Then they changed their name to mandriva and I didn't want to run something called mandriva (picky, eh!?) so I went to debian. That
was ~10 years ago. I have considered myself a debianite and been at home there ever since.

i traveled a similar path... redhat -> mandrake -> (k)ubuntu... i held on to
my last mandrake for a while before testing and moving to (k)ubuntu... we
like and prefer the KDE interface presentation as it is familiar and easy to get along with... gnome is ok but a little too different for folks over
here... so we got into ubuntu for several reasons... 1st being a debian branch... even though we never looked at debian we always heard good
things... another was that the sysinit and rc.d stuff wasn't too far off of what we already knew... init.d with symlinks into rc.d is fine and nice as it keeps the scripts in a central location...

i think it was ubuntu 6.04 where we started... that would have been 2006 but something tells me that we were using ubuntu earlier than that... looking at the history, we must have started with 4.10 some months after it was out and then went to 5.04 and immediately jumped on the 6.04 LTS bandwagon when it
came out because of the stability goal... plus we didn't want to take a
chance losing anything during upgrades and installs...

we've done one or two automated LTS version upgrades and they went ok... the first was kinda troublesome but the second was perfect... the next one we do will most likely be a new install and moving of the data over from the
existing server to the new one... not sure on that yet... coming from 10.04
to 14.04 may be rougher than we care to attempt... don't know if the files
are still available to go from 10.04 to 12.04 and then to 14.04... oh well... new install seems to be the better route...

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On 07/16/15, Avon said the following...

I did laugh when I installed Debian Jessie and saw a broswer called Ice Weazel that looked 99% like Firefox ;)

it /is/ firefox... just different name and logo because the debian guys
figured that the logo copyright stuff of firefox didn't fit with their licensing desires... so since it is open source, they forked it, made a
couple of minor changes, and ice weasel was born...

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$ Psi-Jack was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Heh. I just wish CentOS/Fedora would hurry up and stop using Mozilla NSS
for TLS/SSL, and get back to using OpenSSL. The only reason RHEL went with Mozilla NSS is because they had FIPS compliant first. heh

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've had to use NSS directly for projects, and yeah, it's horrid. However,
it's better code wise than the disaster that is OpenSSL. What a absolute mess.

The work being put into dumping all the garbage in OpenSSL for libressl is
nice (BSD devs!)

$ Psi-Jack was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've always hated BSD's pf. Last matching rule wins is bassackwards, and silly. :)
Linux, first matching rule wins, and stop processing through the entire
list of hundreds/thousands of rules. :D
</rant> ;)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

BSD pf rules have 'quick' that sets them to be evaled before others (and can stop at that point given a match)

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Re: Re: Distos
By: NuSkooler to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 16 2015 10:19 pm

$ Psi-Jack was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Heh. I just wish CentOS/Fedora would hurry up and stop using Mozilla
NSS for TLS/SSL, and get back to using OpenSSL. The only reason RHEL
went with Mozilla NSS is because they had FIPS compliant first. heh

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've had to use NSS directly for projects, and yeah, it's horrid. However, it's better code wise than the disaster that is OpenSSL. What a absolute mess.

Heh. I wouldn't know to that level, honestly. I'm not a C nor C++ developer. I can program, don't get me wrong. I've done a lot of different languages, and I do it well, albeit much much slower (and proven much much more accurate at the same time), than most professional developers. Basically my accuracy level proves that my code actually works with the least amount of bugs, IF any bugs, 99.9% of the time.

The work being put into dumping all the garbage in OpenSSL for libressl is nice (BSD devs!)

Eh... I'm still not convinced about LibreSSL.

$ Psi-Jack was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've always hated BSD's pf. Last matching rule wins is bassackwards,
and silly. :)
Linux, first matching rule wins, and stop processing through the
entire list of hundreds/thousands of rules. :D

</rant>> ;)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

BSD pf rules have 'quick' that sets them to be evaled before others (and can stop at that point given a match)

It does... But I don't want to have to put a 'quick' set on every single firewall rule. :D

The whole logic in itself is just silly. What Linux does with netfilter, it does extremely well, and extremely fast. As fast as pf no less. Maybe even faster actually.

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On 07/15/15, Avon said the following...

Hi guys,

I'm not that experienced in Linux os but have been using Ubuntu for a while and am slowly learning the ropes.

A current hobby project for me at present has been to learn to configure
a Usenet server that runs on a tux os. I have configured things ok on the Ubuntu system but received advice that it would be better to use
something more stable like Debian as a server os.

So, pulled down a copy of Debian 8 and installed it. On the face of it it looks similar to Ubuntu (I understand it was it's parent of sorts) and it seems ok also.

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

I have an Intel running Debian Wheezy, a Raspberry Pi B+ running Pidora, and
an ODROID XU3-Lite running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I also have a laptop that I run Mint, but I haven't fired it up in months.

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On 2015-07-15 11:39 PM, Avon wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm not that experienced in Linux os but have been using Ubuntu for a while and am slowly learning the ropes.

A current hobby project for me at present has been to learn to configure a Usenet server that runs on a tux os. I have configured things ok on the Ubuntu system but received advice that it would be better to use something more stable like Debian as a server os.

So, pulled down a copy of Debian 8 and installed it. On the face of it it looks similar to Ubuntu (I understand it was it's parent of sorts) and it seems ok also.

It got me wondering what others here use and swear by and why?

Best, Paul

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A Usenet server? Hot damn!

Hook me up with some access so I can go to alt.comp. I have never been
on Usenet. Ever. Please. :))))))
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On 11/19/16, Deavmi pondered and said...

A Usenet server? Hot damn!

Hook me up with some access so I can go to alt.comp. I have never been
on Usenet. Ever. Please. :))))))

Wow that's an old post you're replying to :)

Point your favorite newsreader to news.bbs.geek.nz and use the default port
of 119 to access a read only look / feed of things.

If you would like a gated Usenet feed that your BBS can carry drop me an
email at avon@bbs.geek.nz and I can sort something for you.

Server details and stats can be found on the news.bbs.geek.nz site and some general Usenet info about what I'm up to is on bbs.geek.nz

Best, Paul

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