Well this takes the cake... Some things an OS should and shouln't do.
I have to look closer at the things that can not be disabled.. heh

--- http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppa ble-windows-10-tracking/

So how concerned should users be about Windows 10's default data collection policies? I would say very.

By default Windows 10 Home is allowed to control your bandwidth usage, install any software it wants whenever it wants (without providing detailed
information on what these updates do), display ads in the Start Menu
(currently it has been limited to app advertisements), send your hardware details and any changes you make to Microsoft and even log your browser
history and keystrokes which the Windows End User Licence Agreement (EULA) states you allow Microsoft to use for analysis.

The good news: even if Belfiore states you cannot switch off everything, editing your privacy settings will disable the worst of these. To find them open the Start menu > Settings > Privacy.

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On 11/03/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

Well this takes the cake... Some things an OS should and shouln't do.
I have to look closer at the things that can not be disabled.. heh

Mentioned this before, not sure where but check out this page it shows and
has even a script to help perma block windows 10 privacy.

https://blockwindows.wordpress.com

Covers everything from windows 7 to 10 pending on what you are running and
how to block unwanted telemetry from Microsoft.

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$ Pequito was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mentioned this before, not sure where but check out this page it shows and has even a script to help perma block windows 10 privacy.

https://blockwindows.wordpress.com

Covers everything from windows 7 to 10 pending on what you are running and how to block unwanted telemetry from Microsoft.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks for the tip. Although this would also block all updates and fixes if you just block MicroSoft all thgether in your host files.

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On 11/03/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

$ Pequito was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mentioned this before, not sure where but check out this page it shows a has even a script to help perma block windows 10 privacy.

https://blockwindows.wordpress.com

Covers everything from windows 7 to 10 pending on what you are running a how to block unwanted telemetry from Microsoft.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks for the tip. Although this would also block all updates and
fixes if you just block MicroSoft all thgether in your host files.

I never bothered with the host files, just the blocking/hiding of updates
that where never needed and included additional telemetry.

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$ Pequito was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I never bothered with the host files, just the blocking/hiding of updates that where never needed and included additional telemetry.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Xp-AntiSpy was always one my favorates for removing Microsoft bull crap back
in the day. It was slightly lacking with Windows 7 though, I hope to see a
new improved version for 10 would be the my best bet.

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On 11/03/15, Pequito said the following...

On 11/03/15, Mercyful Fate said the following...

$ Pequito was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mentioned this before, not sure where but check out this page it sh has even a script to help perma block windows 10 privacy.

https://blockwindows.wordpress.com

Covers everything from windows 7 to 10 pending on what you are runn how to block unwanted telemetry from Microsoft.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks for the tip. Although this would also block all updates and fixes if you just block MicroSoft all thgether in your host files.

I never bothered with the host files, just the blocking/hiding of updates that where never needed and included additional telemetry.

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Same. Blocked the telemetry tracking updates to Windows (8.1). Feel no need
to upgrade to Windows 10.

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On 2015-11-03 03:05 AM, Mercyful Fate wrote:

Well this takes the cake... Some things an OS should and shouln't do.
I have to look closer at the things that can not be disabled.. heh

--- http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppa
ble-windows-10-tracking/

So how concerned should users be about Windows 10's default data collection policies? I would say very.

By default Windows 10 Home is allowed to control your bandwidth usage,

install

any software it wants whenever it wants (without providing detailed information on what these updates do), display ads in the Start Menu (currently it has been limited to app advertisements), send your hardware details and any changes you make to Microsoft and even log your browser history and keystrokes which the Windows End User Licence Agreement (EULA) states you allow Microsoft to use for analysis.

The good news: even if Belfiore states you cannot switch off everything, editing your privacy settings will disable the worst of these. To find them open the Start menu > Settings > Privacy.

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Windows 10 is absolute crap.
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On 2016-11-19 09:23 PM, Deavmi wrote:

On 2015-11-03 03:05 AM, Mercyful Fate wrote:

Well this takes the cake... Some things an OS should and shouln't do.
I have to look closer at the things that can not be disabled.. heh

---
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppa

ble-windows-10-tracking/

So how concerned should users be about Windows 10's default data
collection
policies? I would say very.

By default Windows 10 Home is allowed to control your bandwidth usage,
install
any software it wants whenever it wants (without providing detailed
information on what these updates do), display ads in the Start Menu
(currently it has been limited to app advertisements), send your hardware
details and any changes you make to Microsoft and even log your browser
history and keystrokes which the Windows End User Licence Agreement
(EULA)
states you allow Microsoft to use for analysis.

The good news: even if Belfiore states you cannot switch off everything,
editing your privacy settings will disable the worst of these. To find
them
open the Start menu > Settings > Privacy.

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Windows 10 is absolute crap.

Actually. As an experience it is fine.


What I don't like is the tracking and also how Windows 10 pre-installed machines are screwed by Microsoft from the BIOS up.
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On 11/19/16, Deavmi said the following...

Windows 10 is absolute crap.

The tracking is completely intolerable and unforgivable.

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On 11/26/16, griskokare said the following...

On 11/19/16, Deavmi said the following...

Windows 10 is absolute crap.

The tracking is completely intolerable and unforgivable.

Funny how much do you know is really using tracking software.

1. Windows 10 (most recent).
2. Apple OSX (has been for years).
3. Google (has been for years).

Sure there are more but those are pretty big companies on the list.

Cheers!
Pequito

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On 11/27/16, Pequito said the following...

Funny how much do you know is really using tracking software.

1. Windows 10 (most recent).
2. Apple OSX (has been for years).
3. Google (has been for years).

True. I prefer to avoid as much of it as I can.

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On 12/07/16, griskokare said the following...

On 11/27/16, Pequito said the following...

Funny how much do you know is really using tracking software.

1. Windows 10 (most recent).
2. Apple OSX (has been for years).
3. Google (has been for years).

True. I prefer to avoid as much of it as I can.

Only gets worse with time, pending on how much is really allowed and does anyone really know the limits before they are pushed to far?

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$²"~"²$ Christopher Malo aka Pequito!

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On 12/07/16, Pequito said the following...

On 12/07/16, griskokare said the following...

On 11/27/16, Pequito said the following...

Funny how much do you know is really using tracking software.

1. Windows 10 (most recent).
2. Apple OSX (has been for years).
3. Google (has been for years).

True. I prefer to avoid as much of it as I can.

Only gets worse with time, pending on how much is really allowed and does anyone really know the limits before they are pushed to far?

Right you are. I don't personally use either Windows 10 or OS X though, and I've used Googles services less and less over the last coupe of years.

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Windows 10 is absolute crap.

The tracking is completely intolerable and unforgivable.

I run OSX with Little Snitch, which is a pretty epic personal firewall. But I allow/deny every single outbound connect on a per process basis... I wish there was something like that for Windows.

I don't mind Win7, but the worst part of Win10 is honestly the Xbox start menu. I hope you don't have a gag reflex because Mikeysoft will attempt to shove that down your throat... Most telling is that it can be disabled by *Enterprise* customers, but not Home/Pro users. Yeah, explain that one =)

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$ Darkwing was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I run OSX with Little Snitch, which is a pretty epic personal
firewall. But I allow/deny every single outbound connect on a per process basis... I wish there was something like that for Windows.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I use osx or mac's at school and man i get lost of shit on it.. haha
especially when browsing.. i guess it takes pratice.. :)

$ Darkwing was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't mind Win7, but the worst part of Win10 is honestly the Xbox
start menu. I hope you don't have a gag reflex because Mikeysoft will attempt to shove that down your throat... Most telling is that it can be disabled by *Enterprise* customers, but not Home/Pro users. Yeah, explain that one =)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've been running win10 since the free upgrade, it has quirks but overall it works fine for everything i've done. Edge browser which is still crap is
loads better then ie11. Even though i use chrome for everything and firfox with noscript for all sites that i want to block adware on..

But the start menu and times are customizable.. it comes default with all this shit.. but i just deleted them all and no problems since.. :)

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But the start menu and times are customizable.. it comes default with
all this shit.. but i just deleted them all and no problems since.. :)

You can tweak the panels it includes, but it still always looks like an Xbox start menu, yeah? Can you make it look and act similar to the Win7 menu without installing Classic Shell? I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot =)

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on 08/08/17, Darkwing said...

I don't mind Win7, but the worst part of Win10 is honestly the Xbox start menu. I hope you don't have a gag reflex because Mikeysoft will attempt to shove that down your throat... Most telling is that it can
be disabled by *Enterprise* customers, but not Home/Pro users. Yeah, explain that one =)

Money talks. End of explanation.

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Mercyful Fate wrote to Darkwing <=-

still crap is loads better then ie11. Even though i use chrome for

I keep IE for one reason. My scanner uses a java web based interface
and nothing else will work now. The scanner / printer is just too damn
handy to get rid of, (Network based etc.) Of course we only have the
one damn windows box left so most of the time I just connect to a XP
VM and use that version of ie6 to scan. LOL (It doesn't have access to
the internet what so ever)

Shawn


... Behind every successful man stands an amazed woman.

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$ Darkwing was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You can tweak the panels it includes, but it still always looks like
an Xbox start menu, yeah? Can you make it look and act similar to the
Win7 menu without installing Classic Shell? I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot =)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually i haven't messed with it that much, i rately use the start, and pin most of my everyday stuff to the task bar, or drop a few tiles for other
stuff so it's right there .. i cleared out most of the MS junk and all the
ones that use data to like weather and news.. hehe

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$ Tiny was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I keep IE for one reason. My scanner uses a java web based interface
and nothing else will work now. The scanner / printer is just too damn
handy to get rid of, (Network based etc.) Of course we only have the
one damn windows box left so most of the time I just connect to a XP
VM and use that version of ie6 to scan. LOL (It doesn't have access to
the internet what so ever)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ouch, ya IE is the worst piece of shit ever.. Edge isn't much better but at least is has some html 5 and css 3 support. It is a pain for older stuff that used java applets that no longer work in newer browsers anymore. That was pretty handy.. but guess all good things come to an end eventually.

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Ouch, ya IE is the worst piece of shit ever.. Edge isn't much better
but at least is has some html 5 and css 3 support. It is a pain for
older stuff that used java applets that no longer work in newer browsers anymore. That was pretty handy.. but guess all good things come to an
end eventually.

I'm a Chrome head now dude.. Ran FireFox for years with noscript, but it just felt like it kept getting more and more bloated and slow. What I do not is run a more hardened browser (Chrome) with no plugins, click to play on the built-in parsers like Flash, and run a personal firewall so only 80/443 are approved. Soo many shitty high port redirects on sketchy sites.

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Mercyful Fate wrote to Tiny <=-

browsers anymore. That was pretty handy.. but guess all good things
come to an end eventually.

True enough, but hey if I can keep using the scanner for now with
a XP virtual machine and IE why not? ;)

Shawn


... It's innocence when it charms us, ignorance when it doesn't.

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True enough, but hey if I can keep using the scanner for now with
a XP virtual machine and IE why not? ;)

Whatcha doing with the scanner? Theres absolutely a time and a place for
a WinXP vm, but please don't use it for web surfing lol...

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Quoting Darkwing to Tiny <=-

Whatcha doing with the scanner? Theres absolutely a time and a
place for a WinXP vm, but please don't use it for web surfing lol...

It's not connected to the internet. Scan pictures or paperwork for
the most part.

Shawn

... Hypochondria is the only disease I haven't got.

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$ Darkwing was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm a Chrome head now dude.. Ran FireFox for years with noscript, but
it just felt like it kept getting more and more bloated and slow. What I
do not is run a more hardened browser (Chrome) with no plugins, click to
play on the built-in parsers like Flash, and run a personal firewall so
only 80/443 are approved. Soo many shitty high port redirects on sketchy sites.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yai use chrome for everyday shit, and firefox with plug-ins like no-script
when i want to steam tv and movies etc from sites with endless adds and pop-up's.. works out pretty well. I only us IE / Egde when it pops up automatically or some site portal hasn't updated thier shit proprely and is still stuck in the 80's like my work! haha

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Re: Windows 10 Tracking
By: Tiny to Mercyful Fate on Mon Aug 14 2017 12:29 pm

I keep IE for one reason. My scanner uses a java web based interface
and nothing else will work now. The scanner / printer is just too damn handy to get rid of, (Network based etc.) Of course we only have the

*Jimmy McMillan voice* The scanner/printer is too damn handy!

It's not connected to the internet. Scan pictures or paperwork for
the most part.

Gotcha, that totally makes sense. I used to run one of those "Scantron" machines that read the bubble forms like we'd use in school sometimes for tests. It was locked to some old software/os too. Offline only = all good =)

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adds and pop-up's.. works out pretty well. I only us IE / Egde when it pops up automatically or some site portal hasn't updated thier shit proprely and is still stuck in the 80's like my work! haha

internal web apps are definitely a weak spot in most enterprises. and
they tend to house really valuable data, which makes it even worse ;)

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$ Darkwing was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

adds and pop-up's.. works out pretty well. I only us IE / Egde when it pops up automatically or some site portal hasn't updated thier shit proprely and is still stuck in the 80's like my work! haha

internal web apps are definitely a weak spot in most enterprises. and they tend to house really valuable data, which makes it even worse ;)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All depends on the technology,, some of this stuff is like late 90's early
2000 it seems.. but other stuff being writting and re-written is useing all
the latest angular / react frameworks which doesn't have problems in modern browsers.. but of course every group has their preference and own priorities
so while some projects are doing recent stuff.. others are stuck maintaining crap. :)

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Hello Darkwing!

18 Aug 17 07:47, you wrote to me:

Gotcha, that totally makes sense. I used to run one of those "Scantron" machines that read the bubble forms like we'd use in school sometimes for tests. It was locked to some old software/os too.
Offline only = all good =)

This printer / scanner is just so damn handy and works so well, I keep
it going. Stopped printing correctly, took it to the local printer repair
guy (I couldn't believe he was still in business) and a week later I had a repaired unit back. Yes I could have bought a new printer for the cost, but
I like this one. ;)

Shawn


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On Thursday, August 17th Mercyful Fate was heard saying...

I'm a Chrome head now dude.. Ran FireFox for years with noscript,

but > it just felt like it kept getting more and more bloated and slow. What I > do not is run a more hardened browser (Chrome) with no plugins, click to > play on the built-in parsers like Flash, and run a personal firewall so > only 80/443 are approved. Soo many shitty high port redirects on sketchy > sites.

Due to laziness, and preference for easy to use interfaces I still love links2,
and elinks.






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$ djatropine was quoted saying . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Due to laziness, and preference for easy to use interfaces I still love links2, and elinks.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I liked the web browsers a long time ago, although i don't know how well they work with modern sites now a days.. i remember having issues long ago when i attempted to use them and it's been ages since i've tried again.

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Re: Re: Windows 10 Tracking
By: Mercyful Fate to djatropine on Sun Nov 26 2017 02:07 am

Due to laziness, and preference for easy to use interfaces I still
love links2, and elinks.

There is something about the speed of them which makes them great for quick web browsing/light data/file searches.

While newer browsers do have the advantage of plugins, they are too cumbersome for simple web tasks.
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Due to laziness, and preference for easy to use interfaces I still
love links2, and elinks.

There is something about the speed of them which makes them great for

Why haven't any of the BBS guys incorporated or even made a Browser like
links or Elinks into their BBS? That would be cool. What would be the
problems if one made browsing the net from their BBS?

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On 03/24/18, HusTler said the following...

Due to laziness, and preference for easy to use interfaces I stil
love links2, and elinks.

There is something about the speed of them which makes them great for

Why haven't any of the BBS guys incorporated or even made a Browser like links or Elinks into their BBS? That would be cool. What would be the problems if one made browsing the net from their BBS?

Maybe you could make a MPY for Mystic that incorporates the webbrowser.py library.

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Why haven't any of the BBS guys incorporated or even made a Browser l links or Elinks into their BBS? That would be cool. What would be the problems if one made browsing the net from their BBS?

Maybe you could make a MPY for Mystic that incorporates the webbrowser.py library.

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Has it been tried? I'm just curious why a text based web browser isn't avaiable as a door or something.

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Quoting HusTler to Gryphon <=-

Has it been tried? I'm just curious why a text based web browser
isn't avaiable as a door or something.

In 1995 I had Lynx configured as a "Door" on my BBS... Obviously that
stuff hasn't been needed in forever. :)

I do also seem to recall a linux BBS that operated with a lynx interface
it may have been web, it may have been a telnet/web hybrid I don't
remember anything other then "I've seen it."

Shawn

... Where am I going? And, WHY AM I IN THIS HANDBASKET???
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Why haven't any of the BBS guys incorporated or even made a Browser like links or Elinks into their BBS? That would be cool. What would be the problems if one made browsing the net from their BBS?

Oh speaking of links/elinks. I want a featre for links which will
display all text in trippy color cycle. Like a ANSI holocaust :D



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Has it been tried? I'm just curious why a text based web browser isn't avaiable as a door or something.

In 1995 I had Lynx configured as a "Door" on my BBS... Obviously that
stuff hasn't been needed in forever. :)

I use lynx and links2 more these days then I did back then. Too much nonsense on the web sucking up my data. I have to use my smartphone to get online and need to keep my data down as much as possible. Other then "not being needed" why else do SysOps not interested in a lynx/elinks door?

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On Sunday, March 25th HusTler was heard saying...

I use lynx and links2 more these days then I did back then. Too much nonsense on the web sucking up my data. I have to use my smartphone to get online and need to keep my data down as much as possible. Other then "not being needed" why else do SysOps not interested in a lynx/elinks door?

I was under the impression Lynx wasn't being updated any more, but I just looked and it's last change was 2018-Mar-21... so I may just look into adding it again.

IIRC there are options to run it fairly securely. Some sites have more text oriented, but a lot of the issue IMO is that the modern web is an absolute clusterfuck so it's hard to navigate around without a large screen, javascript,
and so on.



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Re: RE: Windows 10 Tracking
By: NuSkooler to HusTler on Sun Mar 25 2018 04:41 pm

IIRC there are options to run it fairly securely. Some sites have more text oriented, but a lot of the issue IMO is that the modern web is an absolute clusterfuck so it's hard to navigate around without a large screen, javascript, and so on.

I was thinking that as well.. A text-only web browser wouldn't be very useful these days, IMO.

Nightfox

Hello,

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:26:24 -0400, Hustler -> Boraxman wrote:

Why haven't any of the BBS guys incorporated or even made a Browser like links or Elinks into their BBS? That would be cool. What would be the problems if one made browsing the net from their BBS?

I think something like that is currently in the works or already done, but I don't recall the name.

Regards,
Nick

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Has a Text based Browser with Javascript support been written? I love
links2 but it doesn't support javascript. Not sure if even supports http
2.0. For users that can only get online via landline I'm surprised
nobody has this option. The Sysop I knew had some kind of browser on his
BBS. It was a chat BBS called Cougars Liar. That was my first intro to
the internet. We could telnet out from his board. 20 plus years later, I
can't surf the Web from my favorite BBS. What's the deal with that?
DOH! ACK my Winsock.DLL just crashed!

HusTler




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Why could'nt I use an all text browser on a small screen?? I use links2
on my netbook. I'm not talking about displaying pictures and movies and
all the crap. I just want a browser to display just the text on a
website with SSL javascript or whatever the site uses to login. Ya know
when the web started it was all text. I just want to go to the products
web page and register, view the manual. I guess I'm asking to much. Even
if I disable movies, pics etc the browsers are still tooo slow.
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Quoting HusTler to Tiny <=-

I use lynx and links2 more these days then I did back then. Too much nonsense on the web sucking up my data. I have to use my smartphone to
get online and need to keep my data down as much as possible. Other
then "not being needed" why else do SysOps not interested in a
lynx/elinks door?

Security, etc etc. Just a huge security hole to open up a browser from
the BBS. There are free shell accounts out there, I would recomend you
just use one of those, and then you've got your text browser, plus a
telnet client to get to your favorte BBS.

Once May 13'th gets here I'm in the same boat as you mobile data only at a
HUGE price. I have to keep it under 2 gb a month or I can't afford it, as
2GB is $65 a month, and that's more then enough.

Shawn

... Useless Invention: Non-stick Cellotape.
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Once May 13'th gets here I'm in the same boat as you mobile data only at a
HUGE price. I have to keep it under 2 gb a month or I can't afford it, as
2GB is $65 a month, and that's more then enough.

Sux being broke don't it? Data is like air to me. I hate stressing
over data. I got enough to worry about. But they got me by the "ba*&s.
I need the data just as much as the air I breath.

HusTler

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Quoting Hustler to Tiny <=-

Sux being broke don't it? Data is like air to me. I hate stressing
over data. I got enough to worry about. But they got me by the "ba*&s.
I need the data just as much as the air I breath.

Sure does! I'm hoping to find another solution by the time I get there,
I know other people in the area have high speed, it's just a matter of
figuing out what they pay and who they are with.

Shawn

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Check out 4G service (via sprint) as a "member perk" for supporting https://www.calyxinstitute.org/

First year is $500, includes equipment, after than $400/yr, unlimited.

I have this load balanced with a DSL line. Get about 20Mbit down on both, sometimes up to 30Mbit on the 4g line, and my upstream is 2Mbit on the dsl,
and around 9Mbit on the 4g. Not screaming fast, but sufficient, and no need
to worry about data usage.

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Re: Windows 10 Tracking
By: Hustler to Tiny on Tue Mar 27 2018 07:03 pm

Has a Text based Browser with Javascript support been written? I love

http://edbrowse.org/

Note that this browser is authored BY a blind a person (http://eklhad.net/) for blind people to use, it's interface is not NCURSES or screen-oriented, it is line-oriented, modelled after /bin/ed

enjoy
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