Hello All!

Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?

It should be interesting.

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Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Debate on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:22 pm

Hello All!

Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?

It should be interesting.

watching it now. biden is doing a lot better than trump.
he's a master debater. trump is doing his annoying interruption thing and it's not working.

biden is throwing the covid shit nonstop
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** On Tuesday 29.09.20 - 21:41, mro wrote to Ogg:

Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?
It should be interesting.

watching it now. biden is doing a lot better than trump.
he's a master debater. trump is doing his annoying
interruption thing and it's not working.

It's very anoying when biden and trump and the moderator all
speak at the same time. They should turn off the mics of the
opposer when their time is up.

wallace does not seem very effective.

biden is throwing the covid shit nonstop

I don't get the tv channel it is on. I tried the streaming
option, but at one point it just stopped.

I settled with a radio broadcast. I don't really need to
"see" the debate.

It will be interesting to hear how the media whittles this
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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Sep 29 2020 10:18 pm

I don't get the tv channel it is on. I tried the streaming
option, but at one point it just stopped.

It will be interesting to hear how the media whittles this
down with the "highlights" later on.

they said bully within the first 10 seconds of leaving the debate feed.

anyways, biden is a pro. he doesnt say his dumb shit when he is debate mode. he lets crazy shit slip out when he's freestyling.

trump knows biden is a better debater and he aggressively attacked but that made him look like an annoying gnat even though trump had good points with facts to back them up.

biden gets tried quick. they juiced him up with something and i saw it wear all at once.

another thing is biden got frazzled when trump brought up his son hunter. biden was trying to pull a regan but he didnt do it entirely. biden obviously used a lot of thought up defenses that were provided to him by his people.

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So I guess Joe Biden isn't a doddering old fool that needs a sippy cup.

Someone's believing their own nonsense...

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Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Debate on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:22 pm

Hello All!
Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?
It should be interesting.

Man that was a huge dumpster fire! :)

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Re: biden trump debate
By: mark firestone to OGG on Wed Sep 30 2020 11:27 am

So I guess Joe Biden isn't a doddering old fool that needs a sippy cup.

Someone's believing their own nonsense...

nobody said biden can't debate. that's probably the only thing he's good at.

when he's on his own is when there's a problem. he said weird remarks.

he does run out of steam though. his last really tired him out bad and you could tell he wanted to gtfo and take a nap. after his adderall ran out he was tired in the debate.
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Re: biden trump debate
By: Dogphish to Ogg on Wed Sep 30 2020 09:06 am

Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Debate on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:22 pm

Hello All!
Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?
It should be interesting.

Man that was a huge dumpster fire! :)

yeah the moderator was horrible. i would like them to shut off the mics when the other guy is talking. both interrupted a lot.

someone said that trump acted like biden when he debated paul ryan.
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Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Debate on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:22 pm

Hello All!

Everyone tuning in to the debate tonight?

It should be interesting.

I have heard it was a regretable spectacle, with two manchildren yelling at each other "you smell worse than I do!"

I have also head the moderator was pathetic at best and partisan at worst.

Good I was doing something other than watching the debate, I guess.

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: MRO to Ogg on Wed Sep 30 2020 09:39 am

Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Ogg to MRO on Tue Sep 29 2020 10:18 pm

I don't get the tv channel it is on. I tried the streaming
option, but at one point it just stopped.

It will be interesting to hear how the media whittles this
down with the "highlights" later on.

they said bully within the first 10 seconds of leaving the debate feed.

anyways, biden is a pro. he doesnt say his dumb shit when he is debate mode.

trump knows biden is a better debater and he aggressively attacked but that

biden gets tried quick. they juiced him up with something and i saw it wear

another thing is biden got frazzled when trump brought up his son hunter. bi

the moderator was shitty and the debate was shitty. it seemed very short to

The debate was in a non-standard or expected format, which forced both candidates out of their comfort zone. In previous debates, each candidate would get time to give an opening speech, instead of going directly to a subject. the opening speech could be on anything they want - themselves,
their opponent, etc. They were denied a tool they probably rehearsed heavily to use.

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The debate was in a non-standard or expected format, which forced both candidates out of their comfort zone. In previous debates, each candidate would get time to give an opening speech, instead of going directly to a subject. the opening speech could be on anything they want - themselves, their opponent, etc. They were denied a tool they probably rehearsed heavily to use.

I think they did that to shorten the debate so that Biden would not run completely down by the end.


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On 10/1/2020 8:19 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

The debate was in a non-standard or expected format, which forced both
candidates out of their comfort zone. In previous debates, each candidate >> would get time to give an opening speech, instead of going directly to a
subject. the opening speech could be on anything they want - themselves,
their opponent, etc. They were denied a tool they probably rehearsed heavily
to use.

I think they did that to shorten the debate so that Biden would not run completely down by the end.

Jsut give biden a little more cocaine, or whatever else his handlers
have him on, during a 5m "bathroom" break in the middle.

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I think they did that to shorten the debate so that Biden would not run completely down by the end.

Jsut give biden a little more cocaine, or whatever else his handlers
have him on, during a 5m "bathroom" break in the middle.

Probably Adderal (sp?). If I were them I would be afraid that cocaine
would kill him. Then again, Kamala could be all for that.


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On 10/4/2020 7:12 PM, Jon Justvig wrote:

I don't know about Biden's VP electee, however, what do you have against
her? I watched her give one speech about a month or so ago and that she
put family first which is important.

LOL @ Family First... she put parents in jail because kids skipped
school... proscecuted a crap-ton of non-violent drug offenders
(marajuana) and joked about it in the context of her having smoked herself.

She has literally played up whatever political side she's trying to lean
into and seems more about moving up the political ladder than actually standing on specific policy positions.

Trump gets blamed for a lot of this Covid-19 stuff, but what or who is the real cause? If Trump wouldn't have been elected, would there have been a difference with all these masks and stuff going on today? Who do you feel would make a good President (best of the two)?

The fact is, pretty much anyone else would likely have been worse. A
lot of it came down to Trump Derangement Syndrom (TDS) in that when
Trump first started travel restrictions at the end of January, the
politicos and media were saying Trump was just being racist and it
wasn't an issue.

In the end, Trump made the decision that most would in the scenario,
which is downplay in order to avoid sparking panic. I do think that
some of the mfg/trade issues on emergency medical equipment probably
should have been prioritized sooner. Clearer messaging on suggestions
for social distancing and wearing a mask as well. Beyond that, it's
largely up to local states/cities to implement their own rules beyond
that, the Federal govt isn't really allowed that level of control
(beyond US border and interstate travel restrictions).

I think the original "flatten the curve" plan was probably best, and
still is... trying to stop it or wait for a vaccine is just not a good
idea in our style/size of country.

Trump made some mistakes, and only exacerbated by the "Orange Man Bad" posturing against any good ideas in Congress.

I'm leaning to Trump only because Biden/Harris are political insiders
that imho are huge problems. Not to mention that I agree with about 2/3
of Trump's policy positions vs. maybe 30-40% for Biden, and Harris is definitely not a great idea imho, not that I'm a fan of Pence either,
but I'm pretty sure Biden won't make it through a full term.

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On 10/4/2020 7:12 PM, Jon Justvig wrote:

LOL @ Family First... she put parents in jail because kids skipped school... proscecuted a crap-ton of non-violent drug offenders
(marajuana) and joked about it in the context of her having smoked herself.

I don't know if it's justified putting a parent in jail for kids skipping school, but I do find it important for kids getting their education. How
might a kid learn about their future life hanging out on the streets?

There's been a war on drugs since as far as I can remember. It often
leans towards worse offenses. I do believe in getting a second chance
from learning from mistakes. Although now, weed is more socially
acceptable since laws have turned the table, yet there are still some
standing firm against it. It's certainly not a joke.

Perhaps she was harsh on her actions towards these two things, however,
how might one enforce kids going to school and keeping drugs off the
streets.

She has literally played up whatever political side she's trying to
lean into and seems more about moving up the political ladder than actually standing on specific policy positions.

What's wrong with moving up the political ladder? However, standing on
policy positions and keeping focus on what needs to be done is important
too.

Trump gets blamed for a lot of this Covid-19 stuff, but what or who is the real cause? If Trump wouldn't have been elected, would there have been a difference with all these masks and stuff going on today? Who do you feel would make a good President (best of the two)?

The fact is, pretty much anyone else would likely have been worse. A
lot of it came down to Trump Derangement Syndrom (TDS) in that when
Trump first started travel restrictions at the end of January, the politicos and media were saying Trump was just being racist and it
wasn't an issue.

That's really uncertain since that's in the past and we need to move forward instead of backwards and to who might have been worse. Things have set
their course already. Now we have a big mess. I respect Trump on being
bold and not letting feelings determine what needs to be done despite what's been said or held against him. Honestly, I don't think Trump is racist by
any means. It's just that there's more and more police brutality more
exposed on the news like I haven't ever seen before.

In the end, Trump made the decision that most would in the scenario,
which is downplay in order to avoid sparking panic. I do think that
some of the mfg/trade issues on emergency medical equipment probably should have been prioritized sooner. Clearer messaging on suggestions
for social distancing and wearing a mask as well. Beyond that, it's largely up to local states/cities to implement their own rules beyond that, the Federal govt isn't really allowed that level of control
(beyond US border and interstate travel restrictions).

Yeah, we certainly don't need a world panic. That stocking of shelves
things that happened, was a total disaster. Everybody buying everything
they can. I don't think it really turned out as bad a some might see it
to be. Things have been really bad for businesses though because of the
social distancing and masks and those sort of things. Businesses keep
revenue circculating throughout the city and states.

I think the original "flatten the curve" plan was probably best, and
still is... trying to stop it or wait for a vaccine is just not a good idea in our style/size of country.

People just need to wisen up and quit acting like idiots. Massive social gatherings spreading the disease isn't going to be a cure for it.

Trump made some mistakes, and only exacerbated by the "Orange Man Bad" posturing against any good ideas in Congress.

Everybody makes mistakes, nobody is perfect. Trump is just doing what he
feels is what's best and wants another four years in office. Either way it goes, we'll see what happens.

I'm leaning to Trump only because Biden/Harris are political insiders
that imho are huge problems. Not to mention that I agree with about
2/3 of Trump's policy positions vs. maybe 30-40% for Biden, and Harris
is definitely not a great idea imho, not that I'm a fan of Pence
either, but I'm pretty sure Biden won't make it through a full term.

What specific Trump policy positions are you speaking of against Biden? I think Biden would make it through a full term, it's just uncertain who holds the best for our country. There's been a demand for change for a long time
and we sure got it, a bite that's devestating to a lot of people and so many lives lost regardless if Covid is a hoax or if it isn't regardless.

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Jon Justvig to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 05 2020 08:42 pm

I don't know if it's justified putting a parent in jail for kids skipping school, but I do find it important for kids gettin
their education. How
might a kid learn about their future life hanging out on the streets?

I know where this comes from, but I also know that there are cases in which the school environment is clearly detrimental.

Seriously, some kids would be much better staying in the farm and learning how to grow potatoes than going to schools where
there are organized groups beating people and forming mini-gangs.

There are uneducated potato rednecks who are more successful than me and my Engineering degree because they put a lot of work
into their potato business. I don't really buy that you need formal education with papers or anything to have a future.

Excuse me, but I am a bit sore against formal education systems for many reasons and everytime I hear people should be enforced
to go through it I feel like strangling him.

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Jon Justvig to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 05 2020 08:42 pm

That's really uncertain since that's in the past and we need to move forward instead of backwards and to who might have been
worse. Things have set
their course already. Now we have a big mess. I respect Trump on being bold and not letting feelings determine what needs to be done despite what's been said or held against him. Honestly, I don
think Trump is racist by
any means. It's just that there's more and more police brutality more exposed on the news like I haven't ever seen before.

My 2 cents is that Trump was in a lose-lose situation regarding the virus crisis.

If he had brought forth the full power of the federal government to crack down on travel, cause lockdowns, and keep people in
their homes like China is doing, the Opposition and the media would have accused him of being a tyrant.

Doing anything less than a full lockdown meant the Opposition and the media would have accused him of not doing enough.

I believe this is specially true. As an outsider to the US, it seems very clear to me that there has been a very strong
campaign both from the media and other politicians to discredit the current POTUS and kick him out. It is probably too hard of
a person to control or strike political deals in the backstage with.

As far as I know, police forces have had lots of jerks in their ranks for a long time. That it is getting exposed just now
before the election sounds to me like an attempt to throw more dirt against the federal government as part of the ongoing
campaign I have described.

I can't think of any politician subjected to a stronger anti-marketing campaign. So my conclussion is that whatever he had
commanded the federals to do, the media would have eaten him alive.

For the record, Spain went into close-to-full lockdown mode and I think it didn't work great. We got all the unemployment and
hunger that comes with it - seriously, I had neved had to lend money to anybody because they could not afford the groceries
until this started - but the virus has still taken a strong hold on the population.

I think part of the problem is that we expect governments to solve the problem, then we organize a party at home with 20 people
getting drunk in the same room. And then we blame governments because 20 people got sick :-)

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If he had brought forth the full power of the federal government to crack down >n travel, cause lockdowns, and keep people in
their homes like China is doing, the Opposition and the media would have accuse
him of being a tyrant.

When he initially suggested it, they did exactly that.


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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Arelor to Jon Justvig on Tue Oct 06 2020 04:47 am

There are uneducated potato rednecks who are more successful than me and my Engineering degree because they put a lot of work into their potato business. I don't really buy that you need formal education with papers or anything to have a future.

Excuse me, but I am a bit sore against formal education systems for many reasons and everytime I hear people should be enforced to go through it I feel like strangling him.

It seems there are many ways through life and to be successful. It seems to me you don't always need a formal education, but you'd have to be willing and motivated and have the energy to put in the time and effort it takes to become successful at something. Whether you choose to get a continued formal education or do something else is up to you.

Education of children (under the age of 18 or whatever the legal adult age is where one lives) might be a somewhat different matter. I'd think there's basic knowledge and skills that are good for people to learn (and yes, I realize that schools also have electives & things that might not be useful to everyone). One could argue that it can be good to have a base of education to start out with, and also, being in school can keep kids off the streets where they could run into trouble.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Jon Justvig to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 05 2020 08:42 pm

I don't know if it's justified putting a parent in jail for kids skipping

ch

ool, but I do find it important for kids gettin

their education. How
might a kid learn about their future life hanging out on the streets?

I know where this comes from, but I also know that there are cases in which the school environment is clearly detrimental.

I suppose home schooling could be beneficial too. Just as long as people
are learning. Everyday we're learning something new.

Seriously, some kids would be much better staying in the farm and
learning how to grow potatoes than going to schools where there are organized groups beating people and forming mini-gangs.

Every trade has their pros and cons. I agree that farming is a good trade
and it brings food on the table for folks that do other things. We all
need each other and that each individual has their own special talents
and trades their good at.

There are uneducated potato rednecks who are more successful than me
and my Engineering degree because they put a lot of work into their
potato business. I don't really buy that you need formal education
with papers or anything to have a future.

Not exactly saying formal education such as being in a class room is ideal. Basically school is just prooving what you know to others to get some kind
of award or plaque. We're gifted with certain things. I suppose formal education is just telling others and their self what they're good at. I
think everyone is good at something and not everyone has that chance to
express themselves that way.

Excuse me, but I am a bit sore against formal education systems for
many reasons and everytime I hear people should be enforced to go
through it I feel like strangling him.

No problem, we're indeed entitled to our own ideals, thoughts and opinions. Enforcing something can and often times lead to rebellion if those are
against the things being enforced.

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Jon Justvig to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 05 2020 08:42 pm

That's really uncertain since that's in the past and we need to move forward

instead of backwards and to who might have been

worse. Things have set
their course already. Now we have a big mess. I respect Trump on being bold and not letting feelings determine what needs to be done despite what's

been said or held against him. Honestly, I don

think Trump is racist by
any means. It's just that there's more and more police brutality more exposed on the news like I haven't ever seen before.

My 2 cents is that Trump was in a lose-lose situation regarding the
virus crisis.

2 cents noted. What if was Trump that caused another country to vise up a disease that would infect the whole world. I highly doubt anyone can really
do that. Some feel the disease is a thing and others feel it's a hoax or
some kind of fear. What matters is that we need Jesus ya'll.

If he had brought forth the full power of the federal government to
crack down on travel, cause lockdowns, and keep people in their homes
like China is doing, the Opposition and the media would have accused
him of being a tyrant.

At least he didn't or was accused of being a tyrant. He could have been though, but that's not what the USA is about. I don't think any president
we have would have done that. I don't recall any president in US history
of being a tyrant. I do think the procrastination of release an effective
form of curing this disease if it is real is a bad idea... just to wait on
it for election to be that much more loved as a president.

Doing anything less than a full lockdown meant the Opposition and the media would have accused him of not doing enough.

I could care less for the media. They all have different stories and who really knows the truth and not something less than their own agenda.

I believe this is specially true. As an outsider to the US, it seems
very clear to me that there has been a very strong campaign both from
the media and other politicians to discredit the current POTUS and kick him out. It is probably too hard of a person to control or strike political deals in the backstage with.

Possibly...

As far as I know, police forces have had lots of jerks in their ranks
for a long time. That it is getting exposed just now before the
election sounds to me like an attempt to throw more dirt against the federal government as part of the ongoing campaign I have described.

There are good police and there are bad police. I'm glad the bad ones are getting weeded out. There's just too much brutality and bullying everywhere
we go. It's been the course of nature.

I can't think of any politician subjected to a stronger anti-marketing campaign. So my conclussion is that whatever he had commanded the
federals to do, the media would have eaten him alive.

For the record, Spain went into close-to-full lockdown mode and I think
it didn't work great. We got all the unemployment and hunger that comes with it - seriously, I had neved had to lend money to anybody because
they could not afford the groceries until this started - but the virus
has still taken a strong hold on the population.

It has for probably every country there is...some more than others...
hopefully this will fade like every thing that has brought on hardships. We need each other as people and not as subjects to be tested one.

I think part of the problem is that we expect governments to solve the problem, then we organize a party at home with 20 people getting drunk
in the same room. And then we blame governments because 20 people got
sick :-)

lolz... good point.

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Arelor to Jon Justvig on Tue Oct 06 2020 04:47 am

I know where this comes from, but I also know that there are cases in which the school environment is clearly detrimental.

Seriously, some kids would be much better staying in the farm and learning how to grow potatoes than going to schools where there are organized groups beating people and forming mini-gangs.

There are uneducated potato rednecks who are more successful than me and my Engineering degree because they put a lot of work into their potato business. I don't really buy that you need formal education with papers or

they still should go through primary school. and dealing with all the other puke kids is a form of education in itself.
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On 10/5/2020 6:42 PM, Jon Justvig wrote:

I'm leaning to Trump only because Biden/Harris are political insiders
that imho are huge problems. Not to mention that I agree with about
2/3 of Trump's policy positions vs. maybe 30-40% for Biden, and Harris
is definitely not a great idea imho, not that I'm a fan of Pence
either, but I'm pretty sure Biden won't make it through a full term.

What specific Trump policy positions are you speaking of against Biden? I think Biden would make it through a full term, it's just uncertain who holds the best for our country. There's been a demand for change for a long time and we sure got it, a bite that's devestating to a lot of people and so many lives lost regardless if Covid is a hoax or if it isn't regardless.

China and foreign wars in the middle east are probably the top of the
list for me. There are others as well. I'm not big on most of Biden's platform positions tbh, it doesn't even come close to the handful of
things I liked about Obama's first election platform (that he failed to
follow up on).

Biden is part of establishment, incumbent party members that have
largely supported the Military Industrial Complex without any pushback,
he's supported expansion of foreign warfare and served as VP for the
bomber in chief.

I disagree on many of Trumps positions regarding the EPA and his FCC
choice wasn't great either. For biden, I really don't like the majority
of the positions he has disclosed or supported throughout his carreer.

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Arelor to Jon Justvig on Tue Oct 06 2020 05:01 am

Because my main forte is web design, I often use it to express myself. I created a website that explains my plan to help curb the spread of the virus.

It is a non-political and common sense plan that calls everyone to stand up and be 'American Strong'.

Please check it out at: https://www.covidplan.info and feel free to email me with your observations, both positive and negative.

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Jon Justvig to HusTler on Sun Oct 04 2020 09:12 pm

I don't know about Biden's VP electee, however, what do you have against her? I watched her give one speech about a month or so ago and that she put family first which is important.

She only attacks Trump and says nothing about what they (Her and Biden) plan on doing.

Trump gets blamed for a lot of this Covid-19 stuff, but what or who is the real cause? If Trump wouldn't have been elected, would there have been a difference with all these masks and stuff going on today? Who do you feel would make a good President (best of the two)?

To be honest they they both suck, but I feel it's my civil duty to vote. Therefore Trump gets my vote. This is one of the many elections we've had that I am voting for the lesser of two evils. :-(

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Sandman to Jon Justvig on Fri Oct 16 2020 04:23 pm

To be honest they they both suck, but I feel it's my civil duty to vote. Therefore Trump gets my vote. This is one of the many elections we've had that I am voting for the lesser of two evils. :-(

trump is a fucking asshole but he gets the job done. he says he's going to do something and he does it.

someone doesnt work out and he replaces them. that's how he works.
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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: MRO to Sandman on Fri Oct 16 2020 05:30 pm

trump is a fucking asshole but he gets the job done. he says he's going to do something and he does it.

Can you give some examples, what has he got done?

* He said he would build a wall, and mexico would pay for it.
* He said he would repel and replace ACA on day one.
* He said hw would "Drain the swamp", but his cabnet it a revoling door of his rich doners.
* He said that covid would be gone by summer...

I dont really see what he has gotten done.

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Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: Mightydodge to MRO on Thu Oct 29 2020 10:27 pm

Re: Re: biden trump debate
By: MRO to Sandman on Fri Oct 16 2020 05:30 pm

trump is a fucking asshole but he gets the job done. he says he's
going to do something and he does it.

Can you give some examples, what has he got done?

* He said he would build a wall, and mexico would pay for it.
* He said he would repel and replace ACA on day one.
* He said hw would "Drain the swamp", but his cabnet it a revoling door of his rich doners.
* He said that covid would be gone by summer...

I dont really see what he has gotten done.

go do a internet search instead of using CNN. if you havent seen what he's done you either dont have a job or you are not in this country.
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