Not even a chance for oral arguments...

Will Trumpsters accept that there was no fraud now? Or did the leftists conspirators "get" to the highest court in our land?

Is there a reason we can form a conspiracy theory around? Or could it be as simple as the claims of fraud are meritless?

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to All on Sat Dec 12 2020 12:27 am

Will Trumpsters accept that there was no fraud now? Or did the leftists conspirators "get" to the highest court in our land?

No fraud.. Wrong..
1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned (confirmed).
4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours. Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this timeframe.(confirmed)

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Melkor to Hobo on Sat Dec 12 2020 01:59:48

1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned (confirmed).
4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours. Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this timeframe.(confirmed)

These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

Allegations do not equal proof. Many of these "confirmed" things are jokes. Remember Rudy's STAR DRUNK BIMBO witness? Laughable!

I'll say it again, the Supreme Court leans 6-3 to the right, 3 of them appointed by Trump. Yet they didn't even want to hear the case. Why? The clear answer is because there was no case.

And if there was... then the conspiracy goes all the way to the Supreme Court, does't it? Do you REALLY wanna make that big of a conspiracy case out of this? Or accept the reality that Donald Trump really did lose the election.

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member Rudy's STAR DRUNK BIMBO witness? Laughable!

That is a sexist statement.


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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to Melkor on Sat Dec 12 2020 05:39 am

1. Thousands of dead voters (confirmed)
2. Video footage of observers cleared out of room followed by the
remaining workers pulling suitcases from under a table (confirmed)
3. 1.8 million ballots sen out in PA..2.5 million returned
(confirmed). 4. 430,000+ ballots to Biden in MI in 2.5 hours.
Physically impossible as machines can process apx 96,000 in this
timeframe.(confirmed)

These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious evidence, they are not following their oaths.

we have video proof of many cases of voter fraud.

i myself am a victim. i just found out that someone was voting for me for several years.

Court, does't it? Do you REALLY wanna make that big of a conspiracy case out of this? Or accept the reality that Donald Trump really did lose the election.

i do not believe that biden got more votes than obama and broke all these records. i do not think it makes sense where he got the black vote only where it counts and not in regular places.
this election is riddled with fraud.
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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: MRO to Hobo on Sat Dec 12 2020 13:16:26

These are certainly allegations of fraud... You say "confirmed". To whose standards? Clearly yours... but to every judge who heard the evidence? Nope.

the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious evidence, they are not following their oaths.

So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

-The Fraud Conspiracy goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP and includes
three justices appointed by Trump himself....

or....

- The election really was legitimate.

I know Trumpsters refuse to believe the latter, so they're left having no other alternative but to believe the conspiracy goes all the way to The Supreme Court. Living in a self-made world with that much fear must be exhausting.

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am

the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious
evidence, they are not following their oaths.

So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

go fuck off.

you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am

the judges are doing what they want. if they wont hear obvious
evidence, they are not following their oaths.

So... to me the two most likely explanations for why the Supreme Court won't overturn the election are:

shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

go fuck off.

you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there
are affidavits.

i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me
want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Anytime I see "Trumpster, Trumpbot, etc", I know what type of person is writing. For the most part, I just pass them by.


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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: MRO to Hobo on Sun Dec 13 2020 01:53:27

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Whose message is full of hate?

Over 50 cases have been brought to as many judges... and they all LOST.

You might hate that your side lost, but you'll get over it. Or you wont. Either way, it's not my problem that needs fixing. I'm happy with the outcome.

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Tex
By: Thumper to MRO on Mon Dec 14 2020 10:38 am

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Anytime I see "Trumpster, Trumpbot, etc", I know what type of person is writing. For the most part, I just pass them by.

it's a closeminded person who doesnt think for themself. they probably arent doing well in life and blame 'rich people'.
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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: MRO to Hobo on Sun Dec 13 2020 06:53 am

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am

shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

go fuck off.

you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

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Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:00:23

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am

shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

go fuck off.

you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

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Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:52 am

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:00:23

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit

Re: Supreme Court Rejects Texas Lawsuit
By: Hobo to MRO on Sun Dec 13 2020 04:41 am

shut the fuck up. you are not on facebook, motherfucker.

go fuck off.

you asked and people told you. there are fucking videos of it. there are affidavits.

i'm so sick of fucking trump haters. i hear trumpster and it makes me want to smash a brick in their head. i'm so sick of pieces of shit like you.

go fix you life instead of hating on conservatives.

Gotta agree on that last point, but Jesus Christ dude. You hungry? Sometimes I hangry post, but that was a real Gamer moment.

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Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

Because that's the kind of rhetoric that's suppose to bring people together? I'm no Trump sickaffant, but that condacending attitude makes me think you've got nothing of values to tell me.

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Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, lik
three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you
are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

In 2016, Trump was a bully. So was his opponent, HRC. There wasn't a good choice of someone who could win that wasn't a bully.

In 2020, Trump is still a bully. His opponent, Joe Biden, is probably more senile grumpy old man, than bully, who likes to yell alot. Ask him a
question he doesn't want to answer, and he will yell about how "Trump made
you ask that!"

Basically like a 2016 rerun.


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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:52 am

Trump is just the big bully at the playground, he always has been. He lost, like three times now. Fkn cry baby. He's the one that needs to go fk off, and if you are stupid enough to follow that idiot, you can too. ;)

guess i'm stupid!
trump is the best president i've had in my lifetime and he's not even that good.
he's just better than any other politician we have now.


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Re: trump
By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:10:48

Thanks Mom

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Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to PHILTHY74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 14:31:00

In 2016, Trump was a bully. So was his opponent, HRC. There wasn't a good

When it comes down to it though people... Going against your country's health organisation and killing thousands, refusing to accept loss in a system created by the people so tyranny couldn't reign.. All of these anti-unity actions... such a shame.

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Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or they are

and believe in a round Earth, yes.

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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:04 am

When it comes down to it though people... Going against your country's health organisation and killing thousands, refusing to accept loss in a system created by the people so tyranny couldn't reign.. All of these anti-unity actions... such a shame.

he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.
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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:08 am

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or
they are

and believe in a round Earth, yes.

you have no proof the world is round.
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Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00 am

you have no proof the world is round.

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

Nightfox

Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to Vlk-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 11:57 pm

Re: trump
By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:10:48

Thanks Mom

What?

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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 12:08 am

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Mon Dec 28 2020 20:00:00

anybody that doesnt like trump is probably living off assistance or they are

and believe in a round Earth, yes.

I'll have you know, I think Trump isn't literally Hitler AND I live with the immense help of assistance.

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Re: trump
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Dec 30 2020 08:23 am

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00 am

you have no proof the world is round.

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

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Re: trump
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Dec 30 2020 11:42 pm

you have no proof the world is round.

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think that's weird. ---

No, we have photos, not just artist renderings.

And you think it's more reasonable to believe the earth is flat?
Greek mathematicians were able to do some measurements and were able to tell the earth is round - and that was about 2000 years ago.

Nightfox

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 01:59:49

he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis where people are dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies in defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies. That's not what you stand for. Come on.

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Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00:09

you have no proof the world is round.

Please don't.

Just. Don't.

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Re: trump
By: Vlk-451 to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 20:22:55

I'll have you know, I think Trump isn't literally Hitler AND I live with the immense help of assistance.

Huh?

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Re: trump
By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 08:35 am

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Good-Fellas-Hilarious.jpg

all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think
that's weird. ---

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i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the renderings through the years.
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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 06:02 pm

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 01:59:49

he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking
action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis

that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like this virus keeps bouncing back.

defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies. That's

the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as well.

none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

not what you stand for. Come on.

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Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Thu Dec 31 2020 06:04 pm

Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Wed Dec 30 2020 02:00:09

you have no proof the world is round.

Please don't.

Just. Don't.

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all we have are artist renderings of the earth. dont you think
that's weird. ---

No, we have photos, not just artist renderings.

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

Complete and utter idiot status confirmed. Again.



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Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His actio
though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis where people ar
dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies in defiance of the Gover
ent Health officials and the WHO.

If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS than he did. They were not on the ball.

Come on.

Joe, is that you? :)


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that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like this virus keeps bouncing back.

Is this your professional opinion?

defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their families. That's

the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as well.

What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post, was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today because you got shots when you were young.

none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

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oh another denier. sheep.

I know you're just trolling me. There are smart people in these groups. Hey if you want to put your theories to the test you can do the experiments yourself. You don't need much other than some wood, cardboard, and binoculars. Let me guess though... You are going to tell me some reason why you're not going to do the experiment. Right?


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If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS than he did. They were not on the ball.

Agreed. But in all fairness, no one saw this coming. All the non believers of science can keep going on the way they are. Until they, or one of their family members dies from COVID. Then I bet they might start believing and put a mask on. Wouldn't you?

Come on.

Joe, is that you? :)

I'm not sure if he's any better.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

that's 20/20 hindsight dude.

we could have been better off if we did nothing at all. it seems like
this virus keeps bouncing back.

Is this your professional opinion?

yes.

the who and the cdc are fucking garbage. the who lies for china as
well.

What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they

dude, i dont have enough time in the fucking day to tell YOU how the WHO and the CDC are garbage. look up their history and their actions. all you will seee is garbage.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:06 pm

oh another denier. sheep.

I know you're just trolling me. There are smart people in these groups.

you're stupid because you wont open up your mind.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:13 pm

If he'd been listening to the WHO he would have initially done LESS
than he did. They were not on the ball.

Agreed. But in all fairness, no one saw this coming. All the non believers

hold on there. there's been a lot of talk about 'what if' for a very long time.

the thing is NOBODY PREPARED. they all knew something would come eventually. nobody prepared. people were improperly trained, organizations followed poor protocols and were bureaucraticly incompetant. on top of that, many people were lazy and negligant.


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Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long fa worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit. nothing. bac in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that hasnt changed, has it.

Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

I don't know over there, but the Spaniard scientists/doctors I know are very disappointed by the "expert" advice we are getting from the related Ministries :-)
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Re: trump
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 31 2020 10:02 pm

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the renderings through the years.

I thought I read once that it's because the Earth isn't round, it's egg-shaped and looks pretty ugly in a picture unless they "pretty it up."

I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how long
fauci worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit.
nothing. back in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that
hasnt changed, has it.

Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

yes.

your method of defending yourself seems to be questioning me about every single thing without looking for yourself. sorry, dont got time in my life for that.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Arelor to Philthy74 on Sat Jan 02 2021 07:56 am

Re: Re: trump
By: Philthy74 to MRO on Fri Jan 01 2021 10:02 pm

none of these experts know shit. they're all failures. look how
long fa worked on aids. look at what he did with aids. same shit.
nothing. bac in the day they said he loved to be on tv and that
hasnt changed, has it.

Are you a Scientist or Doctor?

I don't know over there, but the Spaniard scientists/doctors I know are very disappointed by the "expert" advice we are getting from the related Ministries :-)

it's pathetic. now come to think of it, this guy here is blaming trump for people dying.

i'm blaming the scientists for my mother's death. she wore masks and wore gloves and sanitized. they gave her a false sense of security and now she's dead before christmas.

there's no accountability for this because they call themselves 'scientists'.

i call them dipshits. they arent good for anything.
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Re: trump
By: BlaZ to MRO on Sat Jan 02 2021 08:17 am

Re: trump
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 31 2020 10:02 pm

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist
rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all
the renderings through the years.

I thought I read once that it's because the Earth isn't round, it's egg-shaped and looks pretty ugly in a picture unless they "pretty it up."

i dont care if it's shaped like a dick. lets see the real thing.
they wont give it.

I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

yet they dont. why is that. why no photo as our probes are launching away. they got a dot when it's far away. that's it.

all they have is fake shit. artists renderings and now they say they are collated renderings of photos. these look fake as hell too.
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On 01/02/2021 8:17 am BlaZ said...

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an artist >

rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all the

renderings through the years.

I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.





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Re: RE: trump
By: deepthaw to BlaZ on Sat Jan 02 2021 03:41 pm

rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go look at all
the

renderings through the years.

I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult to just turn the Hubble
around and take a picture if they really wanted to.

https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

so you think that looks real, huh?

The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.

what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?
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Re: RE: trump
By: MRO to deepthaw on Sun Jan 03 2021 01:36 am


Something I am wondering:

If Earth is not round or roundish, why are they trying to hide this fact?
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On 12/31/2020 11:02 AM, Philthy74 wrote:

he didnt kill thousands or any of that other shit. he was taking
action when people were calling hin a zenophobe.

Of course he didn't 'literally' kill thousands, that would be silly. His > actions though, being the man of power that he is, in a global crisis
where people are dying everywhere, did. He persueded people in rallies
in defiance of the Government Health officials and the WHO. Not the band, that would be silly as well. That's just ONE example, that, unfortunately
has not worked out so well for a lot of people and their famillies.
That's not what you stand for. Come on.

Yeah, it's not like restricting travel early on, trying to avert panic,
and getting emergency service prepared took any time or anything... Oh
yeah, restricting travel to countries with the largest outspread was "xenophobic" at the time... and the virus was a "hoax"... at least
that's the narrative the news media was largely echoing in late January throught the beginning of March.

When Democrat leadership was saying, "hey come party." And the icing on
the cake was 6 months of rioting without any real confrontation or
containment efforts in major Democrat super-majority strongholds when
"people are dying" of the virus, violating their own lockdown orders.
But heaven forbid people go to church.

Even then, IMHO, the best thing that should have been done would be to
close only major event centers and bars while restrictions placed on
senior care facilities. Trying to lock everything down wasn't ever
going to work, and "slow the spread" was never meant to stop anything
only to not overwelm the hospitals. People are/were always going to die
from this kind of thing.

The global "economic reset" seems to be the real goal in all of the action/reaction at this point. It's done far more harm than good and
there's no possible way to convince the population of the US, or
anywhere else really, to lock down for the better part of another
calendar year.

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On 12/31/2020 9:02 PM, MRO wrote:

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

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On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion,
they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post,
was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and
urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today
because you got shots when you were young.

You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or
those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in
the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote
a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still
echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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On 1/3/2021 12:36 AM, MRO wrote:

https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov

The Earth Polychromatic Imaging camera on DSCOVR takes regular photos of

the Earth from orbit, and NASA publishes them there.

so you think that looks real, huh?

The famous "Blue Marble" image was taken by an Astronaut from Apollo 17.

what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?

Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

Nobody ever say anyone launch rockets or satellits into orbit or
anything. Satellites aren't real, Oceans aren't reall... it's all a
grand conspiracy.

You're such a sheep.

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Something I am wondering:

If Earth is not round or roundish, why are they trying to hide this fact?

Because they don't want to frighten us about falling off the edge? :O


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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Philthy74 on Sat Jan 02 2021 14:52:05

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When Democrat leadership was saying, "hey come party." And the icing on
the cake was 6 months of rioting without any real confrontation or containment efforts in major Democrat super-majority strongholds when
"people are dying" of the virus, violating their own lockdown orders.
But heaven forbid people go to church.

https://youtu.be/HtEXU55Hi0A

Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to
suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and
"orgainzied criminals."

I guess the icing on the cake finally upset his tummy.

Even then, IMHO, the best thing that should have been done would be to
close only major event centers and bars while restrictions placed on
senior care facilities. Trying to lock everything down wasn't ever
going to work, and "slow the spread" was never meant to stop anything
only to not overwelm the hospitals. People are/were always going to die
from this kind of thing.

Some people still don't understand that "slow the spread" and "stop the
spread" are two different things. Like you said, slowing it still means
that people are going to get sick and that people will die.

The global "economic reset" seems to be the real goal in all of the action/reaction at this point. It's done far more harm than good and
there's no possible way to convince the population of the US, or
anywhere else really, to lock down for the better part of another
calendar year.

Yep.


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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

i dont give a shit.

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

experts also said they LIED to us about not wearing masks. fauci said it was so the stock of masks wouldnt be depleted for healthcare workers. we could just made more masks.

or taken preventative messages.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:40 am

what about all the other blue marbles that look fake as fuck too?

Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

no no no no no.
i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

we do NOT have it. we have fucking artist renderings. that is what we have. you can look at them all and anybody can see that they are artist/computer renderings.
most of the stuff that comes from nasa are artist renderings.

why is that? doesnt that seem strange to you? seems kinda strange.
it's another weird nasa thing that doesnt make sense.

in fact, there's a lot of weird nasa things that dont make sense.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to TRACKER1 on Sun Jan 03 2021 06:46 pm

Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and "orgainzied criminals."

The election won't be settled until the senate says so. I actually expect some overhauling on January 6th. There is just not going to be an easy transition after all the fraud allegations.

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Now that Trump will soon no longer be President, it is interesting to suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and "orgainzied criminals."

The election won't be settled until the senate says so. I actually expect some >overhauling on January 6th. There is just not going to be an easy transition >after all the fraud allegations.

Sorry, let me correct myself.

Now that the Presidential voting is over, it is interesting to
suddenly see Portland's Democratic mayor talking about "antifa" and
"orgainzied criminals."

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On 1/3/2021 9:48 PM, MRO wrote:

Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

>> i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
>> artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
>> look at all the renderings through the years.

Tr> There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

i dont give a shit.

>> i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
>> artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
>> look at all the renderings through the years.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.

Why don't we have a REAL photo of the edge of the earth? we dont.


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On 1/3/2021 9:55 PM, MRO wrote:

Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or
anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

no no no no no.
i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

no no no no no.
i want a fucking real photo of the edge of the flat earth.

we do NOT have it. we have fucking artist renderings. that is what we have. you can look at them all and anybody can see that they are artist/computer renderings.
most of the stuff that comes from nasa are artist renderings.

we do NOT have it. we have no fucking artist renderings, I want a photo!


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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jan 04 2021 02:50 pm

artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ look at this
why dont we have a REAL photo of the earth? we dont.

Why don't we have a REAL photo of the edge of the earth? we dont.

it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jan 04 2021 02:52 pm

On 1/3/2021 9:55 PM, MRO wrote:

Yeah, it's not like you can't lookup the airline flight schedules,
routes and time tables to confirm that routes/shape of the planet or
anything... You can't be troubled to google this stuff for yourself.

no no no no no.
i want a fucking real photo of the fucking planet earth.

no no no no no.
i want a fucking real photo of the edge of the flat earth.

whatever dude, i wasnt a photo from nasa instead of fake shit.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post,
was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and
urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today
because you got shots when you were young.

You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in
the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote
a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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Part of the scientific process is being skeptical regarding new ideas
or methods, then challenge them through non-biased control and variable experiments. I get the impression many practicing physicians rely heavily on medical journals, or at least what they choose to publish because they do not have time to perform their own studies. Others prefer not to go against the g rain out of fear of being ridiculed by raising questions.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 01:14 am

Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to Philthy74 on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:31 am

On 1/1/2021 9:02 PM, Philthy74 wrote:

What exactly makes one "fucking garbage"? Regardless of your opinion, they are the governing bodies that make up the medical experts on this planet. My point, if we get back to the context of my original post, was that the President should be backing his medical experts, and urging his citizens to do the same. You are probably alive today because you got shots when you were young.

You mean medical experts like those who promoted smoking in the 40s? Or those that pushed a dietary cholesterol and saturated fat narrative in the late 60s that echos today and probably the root cause of an obesity epidemic that covers the globe. Those kinds of medical experts?

Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

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Part of the scientific process is being skeptical regarding new ideas
or methods, then challenge them through non-biased control and variable experiments. I get the impression many practicing physicians rely heavily o medical journals, or at least what they choose to publish because they do no have time to perform their own studies. Others prefer not to go against the rain out of fear of being ridiculed by raising questions.

There is a good bit of that.

But another good bit is that insurance companies won't cover you if you are a doctor and want to try something the insurance company does not consider well tested. This is why when you get a patient with back-ache, you end up doing what has been done for decades instead of going for something new (with some exceptions).


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Tracker1 wrote to Philthy74 <=-

Medical experts that have been bought off time and time again to
promote a corporate narrative. Experts that as late as early March
were still echoing CCP messages about the virus.

Some experts are outstanding in their field.
Other experts are out, standing in their field.

One of the problems we have today is that too many people defer to
"experts" to make decisions for them. Add to that the mystique that
the elites like to wrap themselves in. They like to believe that
being in expert in <field> automatically makes than an expert in any
<other field> and the Leftie media go right along with it.

Of course, critical thinking is no longer part of the standard
education process.


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On 01/05/2021 12:06 am MRO said...

it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does. === â– 

Which ones are artist renderings?

NASA is very open about labelling when images are artist's renderings or more commonly, have been manipulated to look more appealing in visible light. Most of our deep space telescopes take images in far more than the visible spectrum, and hence pictures of objects if unprocessed would be pretty dull or uninformative.

The blue marble photo was taken with a camera, from space and is absolutely not an artist rendering. The extent of manipulation was cropping and flipping the photo upside down to match what people would expect otherwise, and the unmodified original is easy to find.

What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global conspiracy to hide the true shape of the Earth, other than "because they can." It's patently ridiculous, and all it'd take is one adventrous rebel with their own private jet to stumble upon the truth.





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deepthaw wrote to MRO <=-

it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does. === =

Which ones are artist renderings?

NASA is very open about labelling when images are artist's
renderings or more commonly, have been manipulated to look more
appealing in visible light. Most of our deep space telescopes
take images in far more than the visible spectrum, and hence
pictures of objects if unprocessed would be pretty dull or
uninformative.

The blue marble photo was taken with a camera, from space and is absolutely not an artist rendering. The extent of manipulation
was cropping and flipping the photo upside down to match what
people would expect otherwise, and the unmodified original is
easy to find.

What is the *real* reason you think there'd be a global
conspiracy to hide the true shape of the Earth, other than
"because they can." It's patently ridiculous, and all it'd take
is one adventrous rebel with their own private jet to stumble
upon the truth.

I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this
topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
could be this stupid and continue breathing.



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On 01/05/2021 1:17 pm Dr. What said...

One of the problems we have today is that too many people defer to "experts" to make decisions for them. Add to that the mystique that the elites like to wrap themselves in. They like to believe that being in expert in <field> automatically makes than an expert in any <other field> and the Leftie media go right along with it.

I defer to experts because I feel I'm well enough educated to a) understand when their credentials are qualified and b) understand when a topic is beyond my understanding and that it's best to defer to experts identified by a.

The problem with lack of critical thinking is partially this battle in education between wanting to (waste time) creating well rounded citizens, versus it being a vocational thing that just prepares them for a career without wasting time on "soft skills."

I think the focus on testing is a massive part and despite being a liberal who supports the department of ed., local schools need more discretion to assess their own performance. We've gone too far towards "teaching the test" because it's all that matters come performance evaluation time.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Jan 06 2021 08:16 am

Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

https://navarinoinvestment.blogspot.com/2016/02/3d-model-of-earth-without-water -in.html

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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes
close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

Yes, OK it's not a perfect sphere, but for the sake of conversation, especially in the context here (vs flat/disk), it is.



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Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

Please note that I in no way agree with the idiotic belief that the
Earth is flat. It isn't. It's a sphere.

I myself think it is an egg-oid shaped weird thing that comes
close to being a sphere, if you have imagination enough.

Yes, OK it's not a perfect sphere, but for the sake of conversation, especially in the context here (vs flat/disk), it is.

... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.

... it is only through awareness that dimensions can be perceived. For those whose perception is restricted to 'what the eye beholds' live in a bi dimensional existence, thereby, all observations are 'flat'. Only through astute observation and pondering can concepts of 3 dimensions become possible ... then, add: movement; mass; energy; time; positional relativity in a never ending billiard ball changing vector; INTENT; etc, to be conceivable for the observer that as this snowball of Quantum Entanglement rolls down the hill of temporal diffusion to a singularity where even, this, is moot :-P




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Re: Re: trump
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Jan 03 2021 03:24 am

On 12/31/2020 9:02 PM, MRO wrote:

i have never seen a full picture of the earth that is not an
artist rendering. nasa even admitted this as much. you can go
look at all the renderings through the years.

There are live 24/7 satellite feeds that are not artist renderings.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Gamgee to deepthaw on Tue Jan 05 2021 02:02 pm

Which ones are artist renderings?

I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
could be this stupid and continue breathing.

MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile to argue with him about stuff like this.

Nightfox

deepthaw wrote to Dr. What <=-

I defer to experts because I feel I'm well enough educated to a) understand when their credentials are qualified and b) understand when
a topic is beyond my understanding and that it's best to defer to
experts identified by a.

I find that I can no longer defer to the "experts" because too many are political shills. ex: Fauci

I've also seen over many years that just because a "leader" says someone's
an "expert" doesn't mean that the person is really an "expert". I've met
too many "experts" in companies who were out, standing in their fields.

The problem with lack of critical thinking is partially this battle in education between wanting to (waste time) creating well rounded
citizens, versus it being a vocational thing that just prepares them
for a career without wasting time on "soft skills."

A "well rounded" person will always have critical thinking skills. So that's not the reason. But a person with critical thinking skills will sniff
out the BS being fed to him pretty quickly and question authority. That's
what they want to stop.

I think the focus on testing is a massive part and despite being a
liberal who supports the department of ed., local schools need more discretion to assess their own performance. We've gone too far towards "teaching the test" because it's all that matters come performance evaluation time.

I remember those days. But the "teaching to the test" was only part of the plan. That just made many of the better teachers leave to be replaced with more indoctrinators.

Once the teachers were "teaching to the test" (because those test scores
were how they were getting rated), then they just started to change the
test.

It's all part of ruining the education system and turning people in to
sheep.


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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Which ones are artist renderings?

I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that somebody
could be this stupid and continue breathing.

MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think
I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile
to argue with him about stuff like this.

Yep, it is futile.

He's a stooge and a troll, and a waste of time.



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Re: NASA conspiracy
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:40 am

I have to believe that "MRO" is just trolling us at this point on
this topic. As dumb as he is, I cannot believe it possible that
somebody could be this stupid and continue breathing.

MRO keeps occasionally posting stuff like this, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone convince him of anything. It seems futile to argue with him about stuff like this.

You'll be in a much happier place if you just lay into him enough to get him to twitlist you.

He can dish it out but he can't take it.

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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 12:06 am

it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:23 pm

While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? they are all artist renderings.
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dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? the
are all artist renderings.

To be correct, some are renderings, some are photos that have been
"enhanced."


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Re: Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:12 pm

dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from
nasa?

the

are all artist renderings.

To be correct, some are renderings, some are photos that have been "enhanced."

or more correct:

nobody fucking knows
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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:23 pm

Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Tue Jan 05 2021 12:06 am

it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody
questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people
are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.
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it just seems strange to me that nasa does these odd things and nobody
questions them. they think these artist renderings are fact. people
are brainwashed into believing everything nasa says and does.

While I agree that NASA are keeping us in the dark about a number of things, I don't think the Earth not being spherical is one of them.

i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there
are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.

How can you possibly be this ignorant?

There are tens of thousands (maybe more?) of them, publicly
accessible. Pull your head out of your ass, doofus.


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On 2021-01-15 6:07 a.m., MRO wrote:

i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual earth photographs of the entire earth.

From Apollo 11 a long time ago : https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21080291173/in/album-72157658666156148/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21710271221/in/album-72157658666156148/

If you don't see a full spherical earth from the space station it's that
it's not orbiting from high enough, just a few hundred miles.

Things is that it's allays possible to say "it's a miniature model shoot
in a Hollywood studio" etc.

But everyday life, sunrise, sunset, tides, weather pattern etc. are more
easy to explain when you consider that earth is a sphere. Usually the
simplest explanation to a phenomenon tend to be the right one.

It has been demonstrated the earth is round thousands of years ago, just
need sticks, sun at noon and take measurement from different locations.

I believe that most flatearther don't really believe that the earth is
flat. It's just a way to rebel and oppose to what they see at authority
and piss people off :-)

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Re: Re: trump
By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 15 2021 10:51 am

It has been demonstrated the earth is round thousands of years ago, just need sticks, sun at noon and take measurement from different locations.

I believe that most flatearther don't really believe that the earth is flat. It's just a way to rebel and oppose to what they see at authority and piss people off :-)

i'm just saying why is it that all we have for a total picture of the earth is blue marble that they always photoshop.

and they have compilations from various sources that they piece together and then they draw on THAT too!!
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i'm just saying why is it that all we have for a total picture of the earth is blue marble that they always Photoshop.

Like I said. For myself I've seen this picture since a was a young child, so pre-photoshop. Even the best mainframe computer of the days couldn't have simulated something like this.

I see a 120 film negative scan with how a raw scan should look.

If you referring to picture taken in low orbit, they won't have the full earth on it because the earth is 7916 miles wide and that for example the space station is only flying at 260 miles above it.

A geostationary satellite is higher (22236 miles) gives that opportunity. This link : https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/FD/02/678x678.jpg
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i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no actual ea
th photographs of the entire earth.

If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?


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On 2021-01-15 6:05 p.m., Dumas Walker wrote:

If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?

That's right :-D

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Re: Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jan 15 2021 06:05 pm

i'm just saying we dont know. and it's very strange that there are no
actual

ea

th photographs of the entire earth.

If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire Earth?

not really
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Re: Re: trump
By: Ennev to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 15 2021 10:34 pm

If it was flat, wouldn't it be easier to get a picture of the entire
Earth?

That's right :-D

Okay, I have to say it... If the Earth was flat, cats would've knocked everything over the side by now.

In all honesty, to think that the Earth isn't a fat in the center sphere is akin to thinking centrifical force doesn't move you to the outside at high speeds.

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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Fri Jan 08 2021 05:46 pm

dont you think it's odd that there is no REAL photo of the earth from nasa? they are all artist renderings.

It's odd, but like the other posters have said, the pictures ARE a true and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have been modified in terms of contrast, brightness, exposure and vibrancy, etc... to make them more amenable to normies. I'd like to see the unedited photographs though.

Besides, if the Earth is flat, I am sure someone would have visited the edge of the world and returned to tell the tale.

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In all honesty, to think that the Earth isn't a fat in the center sphere is akin to thinking centrifical force doesn't move you to the outside at high speeds.

Granted itÆs not a perfect sphere.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Sat Jan 16 2021 12:31 pm

It's odd, but like the other posters have said, the pictures ARE a true and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have

that's an opinion.

and accurate representation of the Earth. They're legit pictures that have been modified in terms of contrast, brightness, exposure and vibrancy, etc... to make them more amenable to normies. I'd like to see the unedited photographs though.

they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.
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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Jan 16 2021 02:21 pm

they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but that's neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jan 17 2021 05:37 pm

everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make

i dont give a shit. i dont want fake ass pictures.

anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but that's
neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

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they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is
based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to
dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and
galaxies are fake but that's neither here nor there, the Earth is
still spherical!

Wow, there's two of them that should have stayed in school.



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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat
Jan 16 2021 02:21 pm

they have gone out past the earth. they can do one shot of the earth instead of an artist rendering. instead it's always artist renderings with added clouds and the color changed. looks fake as fuck.

everytime nasa does a story it is fake ass picturs.

I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on
an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out. All the pictures of nebulas and galaxies are fake but
that's neither here nor there, the Earth is still spherical!

You can just increase the exposure time to get a lighter picture. But yes, almost all the pictures you see are enhanced to appeal to the public. Jupiter is made far more colourful than what it really looks like. For accurate ones, look at the ones taken by backyard astronomers.


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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Jan 17 2021 05:37 pm

I believe every picture ever released of a planetary body is based on an artist's rendition... the true photograph would be to dark to make anything out.

I'd think they could take a long exposure so there would be enough light in the photo - though with a moving telescope, or a camera on the earth which is moving, there might be issues doing that. But with today's camera technology, I'd imagine they could take the raw data from the camera sensor and increase the exposure level on it to get a brighter photo - though I wonder if even that would be enough.

Nightfox

Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 03:48 pm

i'm talking about the earth not having a real photo after all these decades.

The truth is that there have been very few pictures taken of the Earth in its entirety as most satellites that take pictures do so at low Earth orbit which is too close to capture the entire planet. Modern pictures are composites of snapshots stitched together to appear like a single shot.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Boraxman to Andeddu on Mon Jan 18 2021 01:57 am

You can just increase the exposure time to get a lighter picture. But yes, almost all the pictures you see are enhanced to appeal to the public. Jupiter is made far more colourful than what it really looks like. For accurate ones, look at the ones taken by backyard astronomers.

Satellites such as Juno have returned with some very good pictures of Jupiter. Those have been enhanced as well for the public's delectation however I reckon they are a true representation of the visual appearance of the planet made more colourful, as you've mentioned.

MRO was talking about the Earth being flat and citing the unavailability of unedieted pictures as evidence. I don't think he's being serious either way, but the pictures we have available are authentic; they've just been lightly enhanced for public consumpton.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 10:18 pm

I'd think they could take a long exposure so there would be enough light in the photo - though with a moving telescope, or a camera on the earth which is moving, there might be issues doing that. But with today's camera technology, I'd imagine they could take the raw data from the camera sensor and increase the exposure level on it to get a brighter photo - though I wonder if even that would be enough.

Nightfox

I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:58 pm

I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.

I tend to agree.
And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

Nightfox

Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:27 pm

Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 03:48 pm

i'm talking about the earth not having a real photo after all these
decades.

The truth is that there have been very few pictures taken of the Earth in its entirety as most satellites that take pictures do so at low Earth orbit which is too close to capture the entire planet. Modern pictures are composites of snapshots stitched together to appear like a single shot.

so we never launched anything into space that could look back and take a photo?

and why are these modern composit pictures always edited to add clouds and other dumb shit?
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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to Boraxman on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:48 pm

MRO was talking about the Earth being flat and citing the unavailability of unedieted pictures as evidence. I don't think he's being serious either way, but the pictures we have available are authentic; they've just been lightly enhanced for public consumpton.

you guys keep harping on the flat earth shit.

i just want real photos of the earth, please. we dont have that.
and it's been a long time.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Mon Jan 18 2021 04:58 pm

I'd like to think that with today's camera technology, we could take a sufficiently clean picture of the Earth from the Moon. Software built into the camera could increase the exposure after the shot has been taken anyway, but I don't think that would clear MRO's high bar.

i just dont want a fake ass picture, which i guess they cant come up with. that's my only requirement.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Mon Jan 18 2021 09:41 pm

And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Sun Jan 17 2021 19:36:00

Wow, there's two of them that should have stayed in school.

Yeah, they are needed for balance. The universe needs stupid,
uneducated people to balance itself out.



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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Jan 19 2021 01:41 am

so we never launched anything into space that could look back and take a photo?

and why are these modern composit pictures always edited to add clouds and other dumb shit?

According to one article, only one photograph of the entire Earth was taken prior to around 2014. It's the famous grainy half-Earth picture that you've no doubt seen.

High definition cameras on low orbit satellites can capture clouds, you know. If they've added additional clouds and other details it's not something I've ever been made aware of.

Either way, if you're satisfied or not, it doesn't really matter. Those are the pictures we have of the Earth and we have to make do with them. There are now several pictures of the planet caught in a single frame so I think that puts to bed any credence in the flat Earth theory.

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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 19 2021 01:45 am

And MRO would proably still think it would look fake. Or maybe because the camera adjusted the exposure and/or other settings, it's still an "edited" photo and thus not a real photo of the earth..

if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.

It doesn't matter if they've increased the contrast or enhanced the colours, it's still an accurate representation. If you take a picture of yourself and edit the lighting, you're not going to suddenly see Brad Pitt, it'll still be your face... and a true and accurate represetation at that.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:27 pm

High definition cameras on low orbit satellites can capture clouds, you know. If they've added additional clouds and other details it's not something I've ever been made aware of.

yeah, they say they do it. it's obvious that they do it.

Either way, if you're satisfied or not, it doesn't really matter. Those are the pictures we have of the Earth and we have to make do with them.

like i said. it's just weird that we dont have an entire photo of the planet earth. everything is fancy artist drawings. makes me wonder whats the reason.

you making up excuses for them doesnt explain it.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:32 pm

if it's a fake photo i'm going to say it's a fake photo.

i'm not picky but i'm not an idiot. i dont accept bullshit.

It doesn't matter if they've increased the contrast or enhanced the colours, it's still an accurate representation. If you take a picture of yourself and edit the lighting, you're not going to suddenly see Brad

motherfucker.

I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

faaaaaaaaaake
photoooooooo


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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Jan 19 2021 05:52 pm

motherfucker.

I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

faaaaaaaaaake
photoooooooo

all the time.

We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jan 20 2021 05:24 pm

We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has

no that hasnt been established.

been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.

there is no untouched, real photo of the earth that shows it in its entirety. and that is what i keep saying is very strange.
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Have you ever read H.G. Wells "The First Men in the Moon"?


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We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.

I'll repost the one from the other day :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21710271221/in/album-7215765 8666156148/

unedited

nice thing with NASA, it's that it's a public institution, all the stuff is public.

in 2015 they dumped 8400 on flickr : https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapoll oarchive/albums/with/72157659052908231

the one from the "magazine" are interesting because they are raw, unedited.

they are flawed, sometime badly framed or exposed. Really look like 120 format film in a square format hasselblad camera.

I like theses : http://q.ennev.com/z ( url shortener, will lead the the proper magazine on flickr )

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Hello Mro!

** On Tuesday 19.01.21 - 17:52, MRO wrote to Andeddu:

I.DO.NOT.WANT.A.FAKE.PHOTO.

i'm not talking about contrast being changed.

faaaaaaaaaake
photoooooooo
all the time.

How far would a human have to be from the surface of the earth
inorder for the planet to fit within the scope of one's field of
view. From the moon, the earth can be covered with your thumb.

This guy attemps to explore that topic (and other things as he
digresses with realted things):

https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww


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On 2021-01-21 9:45 a.m., Ogg wrote:

This guy attemps to explore that topic (and other things as he
digresses with realted things):

https://youtu.be/mxhxL1LzKww

Thanks, I've really enjoyed this video

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Re: Re: trump
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Jan 20 2021 05:24 pm

We've established that there are authentic photographs, one has been around since the late sixties and we've had several more since then. You are talking about the Earth being captured in a single shot... that has

no that hasnt been established.

been done. Although 99% of shots that are out there on the internet are heavily edited and enhanced, but you cannot deny that genuine shots do exist; to do so is to exhibit wilful ignorance.

there is no untouched, real photo of the earth that shows it in its entirety. and that is what i keep saying is very strange.

I'm not really following this thread. You can't take a photo of the whole earth because its round. AT best, if you are far away enough, you'll get one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.

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Re: Re: trump
By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jan 21 2021 08:47 pm

one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?
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Re: Re: trump

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?

They do, but they are of little scientific interest.

But you would say they are fake anyway :-D

there where a flyby that a remember for a gravity assist that the
Galileo probe did back in 92

https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/

p.s. I don't mind checking because I haven't look at that stuff in a
while. The purpose here is not to convince you.

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Re: Re: trump

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send us the photo?

Of course not, They do not.

https://youtu.be/rFDjAfwmWKM (The Mercury-bound MESSENGER spacecraft captured several stunning images of Earth during a gravity assist swingby of its home planet on Aug. 2, 2005)

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Re: Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Wed Jan 20 2021 04:32 pm

Next up, the Hollow Moon hypothesis...

Have you ever read H.G. Wells "The First Men in the Moon"?

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Re: Re: trump
By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 22 2021 09:33 am

On 2021-01-21 10:31 p.m., MRO wrote:

Re: Re: trump

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
us the photo?

They do, but they are of little scientific interest.

But you would say they are fake anyway :-D

there where a flyby that a remember for a gravity assist that the
Galileo probe did back in 92

https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/

that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.
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Re: Re: trump
By: Ennev to MRO on Fri Jan 22 2021 10:59 am

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so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
us the photo?

Of course not, They do not.

https://youtu.be/rFDjAfwmWKM (The Mercury-bound MESSENGER spacecraft

so the last image you sent as proof was half the earth and look enhanced. same thing here?
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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Ennev on Fri Jan 22 2021 10:14 pm

https://appel.nasa.gov/2011/05/13/galileos-rocky-road-to-jupiter/

that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

The sun's light is shining only from one direction, so only half the planet can be seen there.. That shot would probably have to be enhanced in order to make the other half visible.

Some level of "enhancement" often helps with photos anyway, and it doesn't mean the photo is fake. If you talk to professional photographers, I bet they'll tell you after a photo shoot, they'll take the raw photos from their camera and edit them with their PC to touch up the light levels, etc.. It's to make things look their best, not to make fake photos.

Do you expect just a quick point-and-shoot style photo of the earth that will come out looking good?

Nightfox

that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how
far out in space you are.


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Re: Re: trump
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Jan 23 2021 09:45 am

that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.

yeah i understand the sun has to light it up. how about if they put the sun to their back and go straight backwards from the earth? wouldnt they get a whole quarter shape and size pic of the earth?
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Re: Re: trump
By: Boraxman to MRO on Thu Jan 21 2021 08:47 pm

one half. But if you are closer to the Earth, you'll only see a small portion, only to the horizon. Being in "space" only makes the horizon further away than it would be if you were on the ground, or up high in the atmosphere.

You have to go VERY far, in order to see the globe, and humans haven't travelled that far since the moon landings.

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and send
us the photo? ---

I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flight to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

What is it you want proven?


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that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.

Is there argument over whether the Earth is round or not? Is that what this is about?


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Re: Re: trump
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:15 pm

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and
send us the photo? ---

I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flight to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

What is it you want proven?

i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.
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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat Jan 23 2021 11:08 pm

Re: Re: trump
By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:15 pm

so can't one of our probes that we launch out do a look back and
send us the photo? ---

I suppose they could go to the trouble of orentating the probe mid flig to take a photo, then reorentate it, but why?

What is it you want proven?

i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.

I think in part NASA want the public interested in space, so as to make public funding of them more palatable. One thing they do, is enhance the images that come back to make the colours more vibrant, and bring out detail, to make things look more interesting. The nebulas you see for example, aren't quite that colourful.

Space is actual blander than depicted, and I think they figure people don't want to see that. Also, without enhancement, you don't see as much detail, and again, I suppose they figure people want to see the details, the clouds, the contrast, etc, to gather information, than "as it is".


However, most pictures you will see are enhanced to some degree. Professional photographers will usually tweak the RAW image just a bit. It's not a "rendered" photo, just an adjustment of how the camera saw it.


Lastly, what a camera sees is also dependent on exposure, lighting, lenses, etc, so adjusting it doesn't make it 'fake'. After all, what you see in the dark looks different depending on whether you've been in the dark a while, or just walked in from a bright room.

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Re: Re: trump
By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat Jan 23 2021 23:08:29

i want to know why we do not have a photo of the earth that isnt some artist rendered bullshit.

Why not enjoy a peek over at eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ESRS/HDEV?
You'll be able to see live footage from a camera mounted on the ISS, pointed at Earth.

Correlate that with weather/geo records and the current ISS position and you can pretty easily verify the earth is round with direct footage.

I mean there is just a mountain of live footage.

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If the Earth is round you cannot get the whole thing at once, no matter how far out in space you are.

Is there argument over whether the Earth is round or not? Is that what this is about?

I don't think so, just pointing it out.


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On 2021-01-22 11:14 p.m., MRO wrote:

that looks enhanced and it's not a full image of the earth.

I guess it's all about semantic.

What is your definition of "full image of the earth" ?

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