This is just my opinion based on my observations releated to my work. Yes im one of those people that call you to try and get a survey.
That being said the majority of the people I surveyed indicated they were voting for Trump. Some of those said they felt Trump was the lesser of 2 evils so I find it difficult to believe Biden got 80 million legit votes.

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Re: The Election.
By: Melkor to All on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:27 pm

This is just my opinion based on my observations releated to my work. Yes im one of those people that call you to try and get a survey.
That being said the majority of the people I surveyed indicated they were voting for Trump. Some of those said they felt Trump was the lesser of 2 evils so I find it difficult to believe Biden got 80 million legit votes.

You don't have to pick up the phone and answer a survey about a canidate you aren't really enthusiastic for but are gonna vote for anyway if you don't like the orange man.

There was a really intresting NPR Radio Lab peice about the different voting demographics. A recent one, I don't know the title, but you should look it up.

As far as allegation of fraud, I do think it's incredible that Joe Biden is the top performing president of all time.

The energy to get people to turn out was high.

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Re: The Election.
By: Melkor to All on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:27 pm

This is just my opinion based on my observations releated to my work. Yes im one of those people that call you to try and get a survey.
That being said the majority of the people I surveyed indicated they were voting for Trump. Some of those said they felt Trump was the lesser of 2 evils so I find it difficult to believe Biden got 80 million legit votes.

All the polls I saw said that Biden was ahead so I'm not surprised he won the election.

The only poll that matters is the election itself, and Biden won that election.

There have been claims of voter fraud but none has been found or proven in court in spite of the 60 odd cases brought before the courts.

Biden won, plain and simple.

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Re: The Election.
By: Melkor to All on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:27 pm

This is just my opinion based on my observations releated to my work. Yes im one of those people that call you to try and get a survey.
That being said the majority of the people I surveyed indicated they were voting for Trump. Some of those said they felt Trump was the lesser of 2 evi so I find it difficult to believe Biden got 80 million legit votes.

My own observation was that, before the election:

* People who used to be Trump supporters were still Trump supporters.
* People who used to be Trump haters were still Trump haters.
* People who had taken no sides were being turned into Trump supporters due to a variety of reasons.

That said, the plural of anecdote is not data.

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Re: The Election.
By: Melkor to All on Mon Dec 28 2020 06:27 pm

This is just my opinion based on my observations releated to my work. Yes im one of those people that call you to try and get a survey.
That being said the majority of the people I surveyed indicated they were voting for Trump. Some of those said they felt Trump was the lesser of 2 evils so I find it difficult to believe Biden got 80 million legit votes.

no way did biden break records and get more votes than obama did.
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As far as allegation of fraud, I do think it's incredible that Joe Biden is the
top performing president of all time.

The energy to get people to turn out was high.

The only thing I can figure is the energy caused it. Otherwise, I find it unfathomable that Biden got more votes than Obama or either of the
Clintons, considering how popular they all supposedly were. Bill, maybe, because that was long enough ago maybe there were not as many voters, but I cannot see Joe getting more votes that Obama or HRC.


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Re: The Election.
By: Dumas Walker to VLK-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 02:19 pm

As far as allegation of fraud, I do think it's incredible that Joe Biden is the
top performing president of all time.

The energy to get people to turn out was high.

The only thing I can figure is the energy caused it. Otherwise, I find it unfathomable that Biden got more votes than Obama or either of the
Clintons, considering how popular they all supposedly were. Bill, maybe, because that was long enough ago maybe there were not as many voters, but I cannot see Joe getting more votes that Obama or HRC.

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Never in American history have so many people voted by ballot. It's a lot easier to vote if it's in your living room while you're drugged out, that way you don't even have to remember when election day is, let alone get up early or go anywhere. Especially if you have some sort of moral complex about going outside during a pandemic.

Nothing about 2020 was normal.

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Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 29 2020 09:33 pm

Never in American history have so many people voted by ballot. It's a lot easier to vote if it's in your living room while you're drugged out, that way you don't even have to remember when election day is, let alone get up early or go anywhere. Especially if you have some sort of moral complex about going outside during a pandemic.

voting by mail in vote still takes some effort. you have to register to vote. i had to send in a photo of my ID.

then you have to get a witness to sign your ballot. and then you have to drop it off at a post office.

it's quicker for me to just go vote the regular way after work. when i did it i was in and out and not that many steps.
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ere. Especially if you have some sort of moral complex about going outside duri
g a pandemic.

I don't have a moral complex about it, and I do go outside, but I try not
to go into any buildings but my own home.

That said, when it came time for the election, I did go vote in person.
Early, but I went in person. I did not mind voting via mail-in for the
primary but felt like I needed to go in person for the general.

Nothing about 2020 was normal.

Not after mid-February it wasn't. :)


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Re: The Election.
By: MRO to Vlk-451 on Wed Dec 30 2020 01:58 am

Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 29 2020 09:33 pm

Never in American history have so many people voted by ballot. It's a lot easier to vote if it's in your living room while you're drugged out, that way you don't even have to remember when election day is, let alone get up early or go anywhere. Especially if you have some sort of moral complex about going outside during a pandemic.

voting by mail in vote still takes some effort. you have to register to vote. i had to send in a photo of my ID.

then you have to get a witness to sign your ballot. and then you have to drop it off at a post office.

I had to go to two different polling locations due to a loss of housing during all this nonsense.

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Re: The Election.
By: Dumas Walker to VLK-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 02:19 pm

because that was long enough ago maybe there were not as many voters, but I cannot see Joe getting more votes that Obama or HRC.

I can see literally ANYONE getting more votes then HRC. I was not at all supprised she lost.
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Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 08 2021 09:48 am

Re: The Election.
By: Dumas Walker to VLK-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 02:19 pm

because that was long enough ago maybe there were not as many voters, but I cannot see Joe getting more votes that Obama or HRC.

I can see literally ANYONE getting more votes then HRC. I was not at all supprised she lost.

everyone knew but her. it blew her mind
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Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 08 2021 09:48 am

I can see literally ANYONE getting more votes then HRC. I was not at all supprised she lost.

The idea that the DNC decided to put HRC up for President had to be their "defining moment" but also their worst moment in recent history. I laugh when I look back and her platform and think, "This is what you're giving us?" I'm glad she lost.

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Re: The Election.
By: Dream Master to Vlk-451 on Tue Feb 09 2021 06:41 am

Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 08 2021 09:48 am

I can see literally ANYONE getting more votes then HRC. I was not at all supprised she lost.

The idea that the DNC decided to put HRC up for President had to be their "defining moment" but also their worst moment in recent history. I laugh when I look back and her platform and think, "This is what you're giving us?" I'm glad she lost.

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Trump was the hard pill the establishment needed to swallow for trying to put HRC in place, but instead of changing they're now codeling us and going through with the same nothing plan they've had forever while patronizing us all the way there.

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Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dream Master on Tue Feb 09 2021 04:19 pm

Trump was the hard pill the establishment needed to swallow for trying to put HRC in place, but instead of changing they're now codeling us and going through with the same nothing plan they've had forever while patronizing us all the way there.

Both the RNC and DNC remind me of a line from Constantine:

"God's a kid with an ant farm, lady. He's not planning anything."

Neither have a plan, but tell us they have a plan, we believe their plan, and then they make shit up as they go along. Ant farm.

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Vlk-451 wrote to Dream Master <=-

Re: The Election.
By: Dream Master to Vlk-451 on Tue Feb 09 2021 06:41 am

Re: The Election.
By: Vlk-451 to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 08 2021 09:48 am

I can see literally ANYONE getting more votes then HRC. I was not at all supprised she lost.

The idea that the DNC decided to put HRC up for President had to be their "defining moment" but also their worst moment in recent history. I laugh when I look back and her platform and think, "This is what you're giving us?" I'm glad she lost.

Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
Caught in a Dream | caughtinadream.com a Synchronet BBS

Trump was the hard pill the establishment needed to swallow for trying
to put HRC in place, but instead of changing they're now codeling us
and going through with the same nothing plan they've had forever while patronizing us all the way there.

Then that wasn't "the hard pill the establishment needed to swallow", was it? It was a complete failure then, wasn't it?


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