I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

Let the thread begin.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Sunday 15.08.21 - 13:54, Arelor wrote to All:

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
officially, as reported by the CNN.

Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

I wouldn't doubt that China is poised to promise the Taliban to
restore and build infrastucture. Then, the Taliban will default
and China will move in. Russia will be pleased with the result
too.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 13:54:42

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

Link?

I haven't been following it closely, and last I heard it wasn't crystal clear who was supporting the New Taliban. China wouldn't surprise me much, though.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 01:54 pm

I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happens to that country.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Ksource to Arelor on Mon Aug 16 2021 01:38 am

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 13:54:42

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as repor by the CNN.

Link?

I haven't been following it closely, and last I heard it wasn't crystal clea who was supporting the New Taliban. China wouldn't surprise me much, though.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/china/china-taliban-tianjin-afghanistan-intl-hnk /index.html

"Chinese officials and Taliban meet in Tianjin as US exits Afghanistan", July 29th.

"China’s Foreign Minister met with senior leaders of the Taliban in the northern Chinese city of Tianjin on Wednesday in the latest sign of warming ties between Beijing and the resurgent Islamist group."

"Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi described the Taliban as an important military and political force in Afghanistan, and said he expected the Taliban to play an important role in the country’s “peace, reconciliation and reconstruction proc."

"Beijing has invested heavily in Central Asia in recent years through its Belt and Road trade and infrastructure scheme, and China’s Foreign Ministry has previously discussed the possibility of extending the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) into Afghanistan. "

"the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early July that it considered China a “welcome friend"

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As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happ
ens to that country.

They are not out yet. There was no plan in place for pulling non-military people out. Yesterday, US embassy officials were leaving much like they left Saigon in the 1970's... by a helecopter on the roof.

Last report is that the Kabul airport is still full of US embassy officials
and others who need to be evacuated. Meanwhile, we are having to send
about 6000 troops BACK to assist.


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"the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the
Taliban had best watch their backs.


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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 16 2021 07:41 am

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Arelor to All on Sun Aug 15 2021 01:54 pm

I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less what happens to that country.

that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Mon Aug 16 2021 11:26 am

"the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the Taliban had best watch their backs.

they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living there.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to HusTler on Mon Aug 16 2021 09:09 pm

Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given
the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the
taliban.

As long as US troops and civilians are out of there I could care less
what happens to that country.

that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show. ---

The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 07:46 am

that's how the usa felt about hilter until shit got out of control and we joined the war effort later.

the usa helped create the situation in afghanistan. it's a bit shit show. ---

The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

the world didnt team up against hitler until quite a time passed when they allowed other coutnries to fight for themselves. he then grew bigger and went after other countries.

meanwhile, many lives were lost.

afghans cant fight for their country. they're weak.

we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker
over and make it another state.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Aug 17 2021 08:58 am

we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker over and make it another state.

I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants? These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I rather make sure they stay there. I've always felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to get the hell out once and for all.

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"the Islamist group told the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post in early
July that it considered China a "welcome friend"

Considering what China is doing to their native followers of Islam, the Taliban had best watch their backs.

they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living t
re.

That is true for now. What happens when China decides they want their soil?


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The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want to figh
for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that
Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

Towards the end of this article, it explains one reason the Afghans didn't
want to fight without US assistance... because they knew the Taliban had
plenty of assistance from other countries in the region, and because there
are not really 300K troops, like Biden claimed.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/politics/biden-afghanistan-blame-shifting


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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 03:39 pm

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to HusTler on Tue Aug 17 2021 08:58 am

we should we get the fuck out? i say we go in and take the whole fucker over and make it another state.

I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants?

they have a lot of natural resources. that's why china is getting involved.
we could stabilize the region, also.

These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I

that's easier said than done. we dont live in that climate.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Aug 17 2021 03:43 pm

they dont care about their religion if they arent on chinese soil and living t
re.

That is true for now. What happens when China decides they want their soil?

they easily get their resources without taking them over.
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Quoting Hustler to Mro <=-

The world was fighting Hitler and his armies. Afghanistans don't want
to fight for their own country. They want someone else to fight it for them. Screw that. Time to get the fuck out. FOR GOOD!

Ya, but we should have lead a more orderly retreat, taken with us the
people who have helped us, and not left all that nice, modern equipment
for the Taliban.

Leaving was the right thing to do. But, as usual, the Democrats
completely messed it up.


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HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

I fail to see what the United States would gain from this? More immigrants? These cowards won't even fight for their own women. That's pathetic. I rather make sure they stay there. I've always felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to get the hell out once
and for all.

You mean the never ending war.
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I must confess I am surprised nobody has brought this up yet, so I am doing it myself.

Basically, the puppet president they had in Afghanistan has given the keys over and now Afghanistan is once again in hands of the taliban.

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse officially, as reported by the CNN.

Let the thread begin.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.


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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting down
the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be
there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have
to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest
of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years.
When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the
other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree
these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

It's a war that is not worth fighting and is not worth fighting. If Bush had the fighters on standby when 9-11 happened it's possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

One thing it's not going to get any better until this system of things come to a end.


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HusTler wrote to plt <=-

Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting
down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want
to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now
they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something
just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed
services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is
driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel
bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although
anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will
just just have to blow up some other country and start another
"conflict". That's America's MO.

You may actually be dumber than "MRO". Too close to call.



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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:11 pm

the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how it is that Biden is shutting down the "war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college

it's important to keep that area under control. you should see this.

"war". Now they'll be unemployed.The only ones that want to be there are the people that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One is driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all the youngsters that aren't college material. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

my uncle was a master electrician and he had problems finding work when he got out. the economy was bad, the companies werent paying much or even hiring people at that time.

you arent promised a job with a college degree. on indeed there are jobs that want people with BA degrees that are paying 19 bucks an hr. that's bullshit.

regarding anybody can earn a college degree these days, maybe they can with a shit load of debt. i couldn't go back to college right now because i work full time. i tried to do it and i couldnt get the classes i wanted, and the ones i could attend were all over the time of day. no way could i work and go to college at the same time.

furthermore, i work with a bunch of college kids. a few of them are chemists. we make the same money and one of them i make 2 bucks more an hour.

anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A will just just have to blow up some other country and start another "conflict". That's America's MO.

you have zero understanding of foreign policy.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 10:21 pm

It's a war that is not worth fighting and is not worth fighting. If Bush had the fighters on standby when 9-11 happened it's possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

One thing it's not going to get any better until this system of things come to a end.

fighters ARE on standby.

several people dropped the ball.

it wasnt bush.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:11 pm

that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that w in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all t

If they are capable or driving a truck or serving at a gas station, they are far from "useless".

Not everybody is going to be a successful lawyer who earns megabucks winning cases for megacorporations, and that is fine, because we don't need everybody to be.

I hate the notion that you need a degree to be success ful in life, and if you don't have it you are a useless bum. Sorry, but the world is full of biologists who make their living flipping burguers.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Arelor to HusTler on Sat Aug 28 2021 12:27 pm

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:11 pm

that want careers in the service. Now they'll have to go to college or other school and learn something just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that w in the armed services for 8 years. When they got out they were useless. One driving a truck and the other works as a gas attendent. I feel bad for all t

If they are capable or driving a truck or serving at a gas station, they are far from "useless".

yeah truck drivers are in high demand and make decent money in the usa.

I hate the notion that you need a degree to be success ful in life, and if you don't have it you are a useless bum. Sorry, but the world is full of biologists who make their living flipping burguers.

i know a woman who went to college most of her adult life and got great grades. she's a car porter.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: HusTler to plt on Fri Aug 27 2021 04:15 pm

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 02:53 am

felt the only ones that gained from being at war in Afghanistan was
the United States Armed forces and it's war mongers. It's time to
get the hell out once and for all.

You mean the never ending war.

Now the generals are crying how bad it is that Biden is shutting down the " omething just like the rest of us. I have 2 nephews that were in the armed s erial. Although anyone can earn a college degree these days. Well the U.S.A

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Another war is always around the corner. Ask which languages are recommended to learn as part of the pre-requisite language courses required to become a Green Beret, then you'll have a good idea where we are going next. The first guys on the ground will be special forces operating with whoever our allies
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Moondog to HusTler on Sat Aug 28 2021 04:58 pm

Another war is always around the corner. Ask which languages are recommended to learn as part of the pre-requisite language courses required

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to HusTler on Fri Aug 27 2021 10:21 pm

It's a war that is not worth fighting and is not worth fighting. If Bush had the fighters on standby when 9-11 happened it's possible that 9-11 could have been prevented.

One thing it's not going to get any better until this system of things come to a end.

fighters ARE on standby.

several people dropped the ball.

it wasnt bush.

Who was ever in office at the time the commander and chief shall have control of the militry at all times. Like Trump tried to screw over the U.S Federal Government Employees by removing their protection. But he lost in court when AFGE sued his administration.

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Hello plt!

** On Friday 27.08.21 - 15:10, plt wrote to Arelor:

It's their war and we should have never got involved in the
first place.

Money and resources.

Afghanistan is rich in iron, copper, oil, gold, rare earths,
and coal - and that's just the start of a long list of natural
resources.

A bunch of Taliban hoodlums wouldn't know where to start and
how to manage that.



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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 01:05 am

it wasnt bush.

Who was ever in office at the time the commander and chief shall have control of the militry at all times. Like Trump tried to screw over the U.S Federal Government Employees by removing their protection. But he lost in court when AFGE sued his administration.

you seem to be taking the stupid way out. you picked a side and blame the other guy for everything.

now you are all over the place.

you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps and unions.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Ogg to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:44 am

Hello plt!

** On Friday 27.08.21 - 15:10, plt wrote to Arelor:

It's their war and we should have never got involved in the
first place.

Money and resources.

Afghanistan is rich in iron, copper, oil, gold, rare earths,
and coal - and that's just the start of a long list of natural
resources.

A bunch of Taliban hoodlums wouldn't know where to start and
how to manage that.

all they do is get approached by a bigger govt that will handle it.

furthermore, whenever we get involved in a conflict it is because of our treatys. we just dont storm in.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 01:05 am

it wasnt bush.

Who was ever in office at the time the commander and chief shall have control of the militry at all times. Like Trump tried to screw over the U.S Federal Government Employees by removing their protection. But he lost in court when AFGE sued his administration.

you seem to be taking the stupid way out. you picked a side and blame
the other guy for everything.

I do not pick sides. The fact remains if the commander and chief was doing his job during 9-11 it would have never happened. One of the issue when Trump tried change the regulations to make it easer to fire federal employees he lost in court against the union AFGE. The rules and regulations have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have seens some cases and read them during the appeal process.

now you are all over the place.

Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.

you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps
and unions. ---

Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.



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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:26 pm

have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have seens some cases and read them during the appeal process.

now you are all over the place.

Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.

what?

you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps and unions. ---

Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.

put down the crack pipe, dude.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:00

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:26 pm

have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have
seens
some cases and read them during the appeal process.

now you are all over the place.

Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.

what?

you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps and unions. ---

Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.

put down the crack pipe, dude.

You like the GOP ways of no accountability? Maybe you should do more reading before you post.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 08:08 pm

put down the crack pipe, dude.

You like the GOP ways of no accountability? Maybe you should do more reading before you post.

i'm not talking about the gop
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plt wrote to MRO <=-

You like the GOP ways of no accountability? Maybe you should do more reading before you post.

Hilary's emails and Bengazi.

What was that about GOP "ways of no accountability"?

The Left never get punished for their crimes, yet anyone else who does the same thing (or less) gets punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Case in Point: Dinesh D'Souza's campaign finance violation.


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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to plt on Sun Aug 29 2021 18:38:00

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: plt to MRO on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:26 pm

have been in place to deal with poor perfomers, but Trump could see the truth in the matter. I worked for DHS, so I have
seens
some cases and read them during the appeal process.

now you are all over the place.

Yes, But I making my point of what I am telling is the truth.

what?

you are talking about bush and 911. now you are talking about trumps and unions. ---

Who is the commander in chief back there is responsibility to run and hold the military accountable at all times.

put down the crack pipe, dude.

You have no clue on what your saying.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Aug 15 2021 05:09 pm

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
officially, as reported by the CNN.

Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo, jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the terrorist Taliban.

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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Denn to Ogg on Sun Sep 12 2021 09:37 pm

Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Aug 15 2021 05:09 pm

The taliban are pretty much endorsed by the Chinesse
officially, as reported by the CNN.

Who is supplying the Taliban with munitions? China?

Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo, jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the terrorist Taliban.

build back better. he just didnt say for who.
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Re: The Fall of Afghanistan
By: MRO to Denn on Mon Sep 13 2021 03:31 am

Biden made sure he left the Taliban 800 billion in weapons, ammo,
jets, cargo planes and helicopters and much much more, so yeah because
of sleepy creepy clown Joe Biden, we the taxpayers have equiped the
terrorist Taliban.

build back better. he just didnt say for who.

True lol

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