So on labor day, Joe biden paid my city a visit.
a dude on facebook said he arrived with busloads of his followers.

Unlike other presidential visits, stuff wasn't blocked off and the city was normal. I don't think people paid his visit any mind. They were probably enjoying the holiday with their families.

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom and then a guy heckled him and biden called him an idiot.

what a world we live in.
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Re: joe biden
By: MRO to All on Mon Sep 05 2022 09:33 pm

So on labor day, Joe biden paid my city a visit.
a dude on facebook said he arrived with busloads of his followers.

Unlike other presidential visits, stuff wasn't blocked off and the city was

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom a

what a world we live in.

Creepy Joe sure knows how to make friends. I won't be surprised if the Dems don't ask him to step down next term.

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Re: joe biden
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Sep 06 2022 08:56 am

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom a

what a world we live in.

Creepy Joe sure knows how to make friends. I won't be surprised if the Dems don't ask him to step down next term.

i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up.
not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a huge embarassment to who he represents.
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he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom and
hen a guy heckled him and biden called him an idiot.

what a world we live in.

Indeed! Did he have the red and black background when he made his
"republican threat to freedom" speech, like he did in Washington?


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Re: joe biden
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Sep 06 2022 06:24 pm

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom and
hen a guy heckled him and biden called him an idiot.

what a world we live in.

Indeed! Did he have the red and black background when he made his "republican threat to freedom" speech, like he did in Washington?

no it was during the day time so he couldnt do his dark brandon act.
he basically talked about unions and maga.

so afraid of maga
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MRO wrote to All <=-

So on labor day, Joe biden paid my city a visit.
a dude on facebook said he arrived with busloads of his followers.

"A dude on Facebook" is just as credible a news source as the Two Guys From Andromeda, but much less entertaining. And much less legandary. But I
digress.

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to
freedom and then a guy heckled him and biden called him an idiot.

Joe's gotta be Joe. On the plus side, his rhetoric is 1000% calmer than
his predecessor.


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Re: joe biden
By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 06 2022 01:11 pm

Re: joe biden
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Sep 06 2022 08:56 am

he talked about the maga republicans and what a threat they are to freedom a

what a world we live in.

Creepy Joe sure knows how to make friends. I won't be surprised if the D don't ask him to step down next term.

i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up.
not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a huge emb

They don't want Kamala in charge either

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Re: joe biden
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Sep 06 2022 07:41 pm

i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up.
not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a huge emb

They don't want Kamala in charge either

yeah she has really proven she's braindead. they need to get the people in sucession to deny the role until they get down to someone capable of taking it over.
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i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up.
not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a huge em

They don't want Kamala in charge either

There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been
more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why he picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.


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Joe's gotta be Joe. On the plus side, his rhetoric is 1000% calmer than
his predecessor.

Can you remind me when Trump stood in front of a threatening red and black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

I am thinking not.


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On 9/7/22 06:26, MRO wrote:

They don't want Kamala in charge either

yeah she has really proven she's braindead. they need to get the
people in sucession to deny the role until they get down to someone
capable of taking it over.

Next in line is Pelosi... and further down isn't necessarily any better
in terms of general good for the nation.

It sucks... most of the political offices and appointments at the head
of the country are those who have repeatedly sold out the public
interest in the name of lobbyist interests. Where the divide should be
on negotiating towards working solutions, it's absolutely devolved...
It's no longer about compromise as it is absolutes and incumbents and
the powerful win, even if they shouldn't.

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more government power, it's less (IMHO).
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yeah she has really proven she's braindead. they need to get the
people in sucession to deny the role until they get down to someone capable of taking it over.

The problem is that nearly all of them are incapable, yet all of them thin that they can "do the job right."


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Re: Re: joe biden
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Wed Sep 07 2022 04:57 pm

yeah she has really proven she's braindead. they need to get the
people in sucession to deny the role until they get down to someone capable of taking it over.

Next in line is Pelosi... and further down isn't necessarily any better
in terms of general good for the nation.

yeah, we're fucked. people are stupid.
maybe we need a real smart dictator instead.
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Re: joe biden
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Wed Sep 07 2022 04:18 pm

i think he will step down for medical reasons before his term is up. not only is he physically and mentally unable to do his job, he's a hug

They don't want Kamala in charge either

There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been
more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.

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I'm wondering who other than Trump the Republicans have to offer as well?
The Never Trumpers have proven they'll vote for anyone other than Trump, and
it may be in the Republican's best interest to groom a new candidate that is more appealing to vote for by both sides who do not want Biden back or Kamala in charge.

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Re: Re: joe biden
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 08 2022 09:33 am

yeah, we're fucked. people are stupid.
maybe we need a real smart dictator instead.
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Re: joe biden
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 08 2022 11:01 am

I'm wondering who other than Trump the Republicans have to offer as well? The Never Trumpers have proven they'll vote for anyone other than Trump, and it may be in the Republican's best interest to groom a new candidate that is more appealing to vote for by both sides who do not want Biden back or Kamala in charge.

no matter who it is, they will demonize the other side.
they did that with mitt romney. they said he was going to launch the nukes and all kinds of crazy shit. thaty guy couldn't hurt a fly.

then they talked about how his dog was riding in a carrier on the top of the car and got the shits and the whole car got covered in shit. they'll do anything and air any bad laundry.
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They don't want Kamala in charge either

There were other "women of color" who are Democrats who would have been more qualified, and more competent. I have seen no evidence to support why
picked her, unless he knew no one would want her to follow him.

I'm wondering who other than Trump the Republicans have to offer as well?
The Never Trumpers have proven they'll vote for anyone other than Trump, and it may be in the Republican's best interest to groom a new candidate that is more appealing to vote for by both sides who do not want Biden back or Kamala in charge.

I would prefer Desantis. Haley, to me, would also be a good choice,
although I know that some MAGA Trumpers don't like her any more.

I personally voted for someone other than Trump in the 2016 primary. Once the person he was running against became HRC, I felt like I did not have much of a choice but to vote for him.

To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also claim whatever happens next is not my fault.


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Re: joe biden
By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 09 2022 05:51 pm

To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also claim whatever happens next is not my fault.

With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were no 3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

Nightfox

To me, Trump is no longer a good choice. If it comes down to Trump vs. a declining Joe Biden or, worse, Kamala Harris, I am not sure what I will do.
Maybe vote third party so I can have a clean conscience and can also clai
whatever happens next is not my fault.

With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were no 3
-party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). opefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

Indeed. The last two elections have not yielded a good crop of general election candidates from any parties, including the top two.


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Re: joe biden
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 09 2022 07:00 pm

With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were no 3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

honestly there are only 2 to pick from.
othewise you are throwing away your vote.
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On 9/9/22 19:00, Nightfox wrote:

With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There
were no 3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they
had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

Doubt it... the two major parties have systematically made it more
difficult in every state over the past few decades to get a third party candidate on the ballot, some against the last presidential turnout...
with that record turnout, it becomes harder still.

Best chances are getting involved in local politics at precinct level
and try to shape better candidates from within the parties. There are movements in both D and R to do this, but money is still money and it
doesn't always work. Of course this also leads to more extreme
positions from candidates in both camps and less negotiation when they
get into office. It's a mixed bag, but I think getting the sellouts out
first is probably the prudent choice, as long as neither side gets a
super majority again.
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On 9/10/22 10:01, MRO wrote:

honestly there are only 2 to pick from.
othewise you are throwing away your vote.

Not true... you don't need to win to reshape the landscape or to turn a
tide. Historically you can do amazing things with about 6-8% of the
vote, including reshaping both major parties.

Unfortunately, since Ross Perot, both parties have made it
systematically harder for third parties and independents to even get on
the ballot.
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Re: Re: joe biden
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Sep 10 2022 01:50 pm

On 9/10/22 10:01, MRO wrote:

honestly there are only 2 to pick from.
othewise you are throwing away your vote.

Not true... you don't need to win to reshape the landscape or to turn a

not from what i've seen.
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With the last election, it came down to only Trump and Biden. There were n
3rd-party candidates by election time (if there were, they had all dropped out). Hopefully we'll have more choices with the 2024 election.

honestly there are only 2 to pick from.
othewise you are throwing away your vote.

In the case of some of the recent Presidential elections, throwing it away might have been the best choice.


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Re: joe biden
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 10:39 am

In the case of some of the recent Presidential elections, throwing it away might have been the best choice.

not really. you have to try to do something instead of nothing.
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Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

Joe's gotta be Joe. On the plus side, his rhetoric is 1000% calmer than
his predecessor.

black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the MAGA wing
of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing is a small but
vocal part of the Republican party, one that is shunned by the mainstream
GOP.

I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it needed to be. But at
least discuss what he actually said.


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black background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the MAGA wing
of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing is a small but
vocal part of the Republican party, one that is shunned by the mainstream GOP.

I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

As I mentioned in another place, to another poster... perception is
reality. If he meant what he said in that manner, it was not taken that
way by many, which made it sound even more divisive than you think it did.

At least you do admit that it was divisive. The person I responded to did
not think it was at all, but I am pretty sure that on the topic of
"MAGA/Trump supporters" he is in the choir that Biden was preaching to.


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On 9/13/22 13:32, bex wrote:

...
background to deliver an official speech to the nation about how
roughly one half of the country is a threat to democracy?

He did not say half of the country is a threat, he said that the
MAGA wing of the Republican Party could be a danger. The MAGA wing
is a small but vocal part of the Republican party, one that is
shunned by the mainstream GOP.

I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't
agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it
needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

He absolutely *DID* make clarifying statements that include pretty much
all conservatives. Which is closer to 1/3 of the voters than 1/2... all
the same, it was definitely inflammatory and had the tone of someone who wanted to spark more division and conflict, not less.
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I've mentioned at other places - and maybe here - that I don't
agree with Biden's speech, and that it is more divisive than it
needed to be. But at least discuss what he actually said.

He absolutely *DID* make clarifying statements that include pretty much
all conservatives. Which is closer to 1/3 of the voters than 1/2... all
the same, it was definitely inflammatory and had the tone of someone who wanted to spark more division and conflict, not less.

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