Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they
call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.
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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 11:34 pm

Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault
weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.

I disagree with this to a point Jeff.. They know that he did not use that assault rifle. They are not jumping up and down telling people about it. I would bet that at least 80% of the people You met on the street and asked would
still tell you he used an assault rifle. They don't know any different because the Govt and the media are laying low on that info. I don't believe all these gun bans and control of ammo is about keeping our streets safe so to speak. I believe it is a bit deeper than that. They know what they are doing, but I believe they are trying to keep the common law abiding person from realizing it. I hate to think of what the excuse will be the next time a shooting spree happens and all these gun laws are in effect. Oh well nobody is stopping them either.


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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from cit up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his ca and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.
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Yeah, I've noticed. The thing that I find funny is that 'assault
weapons' don't even have an agreed upon definition. It's just a term
utilized for its scare factor. Everybody with a brain knows that those demonized weapons are the same damn thing as any semi-automatic hunting rifle. Look up some of the clips on all of the media missteps about what was used at Sandy Hook (as well as some of the other mass murder incidents). It's pretty clear that they're jumping to conclusions that support the proposed weapons banning (as well as cementing as much public opinion as possible for it) that may not even have any basis in reality.
It's just our country's tyrants getting spooked because of the masses of public opinion turning against them. They're starting to realize that people see them for the tyrants that they are, and they're afraid that people will organize and eventually take up arms for the precise reasons that the 2nd Amendment was originally instituted for.

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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 11:34 pm

Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for
an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what
an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they
just want to band them.

I disagree with this to a point Jeff.. They know that he did not use that assault rifle. They are not jumping up and down telling people about it. I would bet that at least 80% of the people You met on the street and asked would still tell you he used an assault rifle. They don't know any
different because the Govt and the media are laying low on that info. I don't believe all these gun bans and control of ammo is about keeping our streets safe so to speak. I believe it is a bit deeper than that. They know what they are doing, but I believe they are trying to keep the common law abiding person from realizing it. I hate to think of what the excuse will
be the next time a shooting spree happens and all these gun laws are in effect. Oh well nobody is stopping them either.

Have a good One!
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Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our right to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe a gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can never take total control of a population that is well armed.
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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun was left in the car.

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Re: Progressive Press
By: Bill Mcgarrity to Jeff.Clayton on Sun Mar 03 2013 08:31 pm

and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
was left in the car.

I posted a link to a clip. I am not sure if it was in this area or in the debate area, but it shows a news clip where the police actually find the assault rifle in the trunk of his vehicle, he never even brought it in to the school and the fact that he was laying dead in the school means he did not bring it back out and put it in his trunk himself. There were a lot of screwy things that went on and not reported aggressively by the media. I have also read in small little news blurbs that just as the news clip said, he did all his killing in that school with pistols, but that would not work well when trying to establish the gun laws they are pushing for.

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Re: Progressive Press
By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 09:05:19

I posted a link to a clip. I am not sure if it was in this area or in the debate area, but it shows a news clip where the police actually find the assault rifle in the trunk of his vehicle, he never even brought it in to the school and the fact that he was laying dead in the school means he did not bring it back out and put it in his trunk himself. There were a lot of screwy things that went on and not reported aggressively by the media. I have also read in small little news blurbs that just as the news clip said, he did all his killing in that school with pistols, but that would not work well when trying to establish the gun laws they are pushing for.

The original report was by NBC and was erronious. The state police confirmed it was the shotgun tht remained in the car and the Bushmaster along with the handguns were with the perp. Both sides of the fence are drumming up insane rants which is only compounding the issue.

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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
was left in the car.

Enjoy your day!

Bill

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Not sure if you are trying to waste my time or not but here you go! It was not a shotgun that raised the cackles on the progressives! Watch and learn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw



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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 22:15:25

Well, as usual you show your ignorance. Your youtube video was dated 1/13. Here is a report from the CT State Police that says he was using the Bushmaster. I'll believe the police.

http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/state-police-all-26-newtoiwnwn-vi ctims-shot-with-4222299.php

This story was dates 1/25.

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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
was left in the car.

Enjoy your day!

Bill

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Bill the report you used was wrong ! Good for you false info and false pride! SO smart are you!


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Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
was left in the car.

Enjoy your day!

Bill

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Tsk Tsk Bill you can do better than that!



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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 22:15:25

Well, as usual you show your ignorance. Your youtube video was dated 1/13. Here is a report from the CT State Police that says he was using the Bushmaster. I'll believe the police.

http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/state-police-all-26-newtoiwnw n-vi ctims-shot-with-4222299.php

This story was dates 1/25.

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Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we
will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and
feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will not be there!



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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Wed Mar 06 2013 22:50:37

Tell me, you just saying the report was wrong makes it wrong? How arrogant. I showed you proof 12 days after your "you-tube" video stating the Bushmaster was used BY the State Police. Please, offer me proof that the State Police are wrong.



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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:45:09

Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will not be there!

jeff, if you call blowing my own horn telling the truth about a report by
the state police saying the Bushmaster was used, then I'm going to blow away. You see, when confronted with facts, you have no course but to insult. I don't need to prove anything as I've supplied enough truth which you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a great day...

Be well

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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Bill Mcgarrity to Jeff.Clayton on Thu Mar 07 2013 11:23 am

you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a
great day...

I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident
that he had seen. I just wonder when two people see a different report on the same incident, what makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please, I hope it is not because the news on television or radio
said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.


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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 14:24:48

Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer. I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.

I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident that he had seen. I just wonder when two people see a different report on the same incident, what makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please, I hope it is not because the news on television or radio said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.

Be well

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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Bill Mcgarrity to First Officer on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:41 pm

Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer.
I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.

Hi Bill, I was merely pointing out how crazy it is getting lately. We seem to have so many reports saying so many different things, even contradicting each other. It was a tongue in cheek jab at our media. Depending on who is reporting
and what the agenda it seems news sources can say whatever they want. When reports by them conflict, sad but true, it is hard to wade through the BS.


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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Bill Mcgarrity to First Officer on Thu Mar 07 2013 21:41:22

Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed
I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer. I don have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializin with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of th police and then calling me out on it.

Sorry, I wasn't involved in the original discussion with you, but I feel the need to chime in here a bit. Having worked in law enforcement in the past, I'm afraid that my own opinion on the matter would be that I wouldn't trust the news organization and I sure as hell wouldn't trust what the police are going to be saying about the issue. They'll do anything to protect public image as they feel the need to, and they bow to other concerns before sharing the actual facts with the public, as well.

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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:45:09

Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will
not be there!

jeff, if you call blowing my own horn telling the truth about a report by the state police saying the Bushmaster was used, then I'm going to blow away. You see, when confronted with facts, you have no course but to
insult. I don't need to prove anything as I've supplied enough truth which you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a
great day...

Be well

Bill

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Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!


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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 14:29:07

Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!

Ahhh.. I knew the real you would finally rear your ugly head. I don't need to stoop to namecalling.. that's your issue and just shows your lack of intergraty... Beleive what you may, live in your bubble of fantasy and enjoy your life... whatever there is of it...

Toodles!!!



Be well

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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 14:24:48

Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer.
I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.

I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see
what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident that he had seen. I just wonder
when two people see a different report on the same incident, what
makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please,
I hope it is not because the news on television or radio said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.

Be well

Bill

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Bill did you notice I went right to the kind of language you can understand? I will not belabor the point but you started your little sissy fit by calling me ignorant when clearly you do not understand that is an insult. You went on to act like a total jerk by assuming you actually know something about me other than as in the past I will not take crap off of bottom scrapers like you. You believe you got the truth just because you read something supposedly published by state police? I guess we all know police never lie or cover things up don't we! We saw how truthful they were at Ruby Ridge oh and then there was that fast and furious thing. Bill if you are a true believer in that a mean a progressive more power to you but don't ever think there is not truth outside your twisted little world! Please don't act like you have a brain as you sit there and act like an ass!
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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 14:29:07

Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!

Ahhh.. I knew the real you would finally rear your ugly head. I don't need to stoop to namecalling.. that's your issue and just shows your lack of intergraty... Beleive what you may, live in your bubble of fantasy and
enjoy your life... whatever there is of it...

Toodles!!!



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Poor old Bill if you look back you were the one who started acting like a kid by calling me some fairly abrasive names. I just let you have it back so you understand even if it is hard to train you. Now don't waste anymore of my
time.
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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 20:40:21

Poor old Bill if you look back you were the one who started acting like a kid by calling me some fairly abrasive names. I just let you have it back so you understand even if it is hard to train you. Now don't waste anymore of my time.
A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

Jeff, there is no need to continue like you either know me or care to know me. You've been marked as someone who has no integrity by many members here and I've read first had your insane rants over and over. You've proved both to me, the rest of the board and probably to yourself (altough highly unlikely) you're conspiracy rants and your ultimate hatred over anything you can't control is first and foremost your own demon, one that consistantly eats away your minimal reasoning skills. As I said, keep living in your fantasy world but make sure you keep the tinfoil in place.

Just so you know... you can have the last word... as you are not worth my time anymore... I'd have better results talking with an 8th grade civics student.

Toodles....

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