Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to First Officer on Sun Mar 03 2013 18:47:49

Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our rig to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can nev take total control of a population that is well armed.
A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

Jeff, I agree with you on the first couple of sentiments 100%. I'm curious, but do you personally think that there is any validity to some of the rumors going around about potential 'false-flag' shootings? I'm a big
tinfoil hatter, as I know you've noticed, and honestly I thought that most of the conspiracy theories around the school and other shootings were a bunch of crap. I will admit, however, that when I saw the footage (aired once by CNN, then never seen again) of a man identified as a SWAT team member dressed in camo running from the Sandy Hook scene of the crime, I started wondering. He was cuffed and stuffed before the 'real' shooter was taken care of, and then he never received any more media attention.
As far as it never happening in your lifetime, I don't agree. Unless you're planning on shuffling off this mortal coil in the very near future, anyway. Here's my reasoning: DOJ memos that have been leaked have stated that gun registration won't solve any problems and that it is to be used as a step towards confiscation. While Congress may not go through with Fenstein's draconian legislation, I think that they're gonna whittle away at the 2nd Amendment as much as they can, because most of the congresscritters are just as big of slaves to fear and propaganda as the American public is. If I'm wrong about that, Obama has certainly showed no problems with using executive orders to get around the limitations of the Constitution (or as he's on tape calling it, 'it's just an old piece of paper').
The final piece of evidence that I'd say damns the whole unfeasibility of this within our lifetimes is the fact that immediately after his reinauguration, Obama gleefully called for a re-vote on the United Nations small weapons ban treaty, saying that he was ready to vote yes. Google a bit on UN weapons and armor stockpiled in the United States already; check out the Google Earth videos of the sheer magnitude of these APCs and other armaments visible from space, all stockpiled in the US near airports, just waiting for the blue helmets to pick it all up. If our soldiers won't use the force necessary to disarm their fellow Americans at gunpoint, there are certainly others who will.
The tyrants know that we know, because they have failed completely in censoring the non-corporate media that has run rampant through the internet. That's the reason for Obama's kill switch, to keep us in the dark without anything except for corporate media (*cough* propaganda) when this is going on, and to limit the amount of information that will leak to the rest of the world when the blue helmets are marching through the streets. Martial law and Operation Gardenplot, baybeee. People have been getting crap and called insane tinfoil hat wearing fools since the 80s because of that stuff (oddly enough after congressional hearings in the mid 1970s verified that the CIA was planting stories in the corporate media way back THEN, even), but there's too much dissemination of information to label all of these people insane conspiracy theorists now.
I can go on forever about this subject, of course. If you can't google any of the information that I've sent you tidbits about, let me know and I'll try to get a list made up for you as soon as I have the time.


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Re: Re: Progressive Press
By: Jeff.Clayton to First Officer on Sun Mar 03 2013 18:47:49

Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our rig to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can nev take total control of a population that is well armed.
A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

Jeff, I agree with you on the first couple of sentiments 100%. I'm curious, but do you personally think that there is any validity to some of the rumors going around about potential 'false-flag' shootings? I'm a big tinfoil hatter, as I know you've noticed, and honestly I thought that most of the conspiracy theories around the school and other shootings were a bunch of crap. I will admit, however, that when I saw the footage (aired once by CNN, then never seen again) of a man identified as a SWAT team member dressed in camo running from the Sandy Hook scene of the crime, I started wondering. He was cuffed and stuffed before the 'real' shooter was taken care of, and then he never received any more media attention.
As far as it never happening in your lifetime, I don't agree. Unless you're planning on shuffling off this mortal coil in the very near future, anyway. Here's my reasoning: DOJ memos that have been leaked have stated that gun registration won't solve any problems and that it is to be used as a step towards confiscation. While Congress may not go through with Fenstein's draconian legislation, I think that they're gonna whittle away
at the 2nd Amendment as much as they can, because most of the congresscritters are just as big of slaves to fear and propaganda as the American public is. If I'm wrong about that, Obama has certainly showed no problems with using executive orders to get around the limitations of the Constitution (or as he's on tape calling it, 'it's just an old piece of paper').
The final piece of evidence that I'd say damns the whole unfeasibility of this within our lifetimes is the fact that immediately after his reinauguration, Obama gleefully called for a re-vote on the United Nations small weapons ban treaty, saying that he was ready to vote yes. Google a bit on UN weapons and armor stockpiled in the United States already; check out the Google Earth videos of the sheer magnitude of these APCs and other armaments visible from space, all stockpiled in the US near airports, just waiting for the blue helmets to pick it all up. If our soldiers won't use the force necessary to disarm their fellow Americans at gunpoint, there are certainly others who will.
The tyrants know that we know, because they have failed completely in censoring the non-corporate media that has run rampant through the
internet. That's the reason for Obama's kill switch, to keep us in the dark without anything except for corporate media (*cough* propaganda) when this is going on, and to limit the amount of information that will leak to the rest of the world when the blue helmets are marching through the streets. Martial law and Operation Gardenplot, baybeee. People have been getting crap and called insane tinfoil hat wearing fools since the 80s because of that stuff (oddly enough after congressional hearings in the mid 1970s verified that the CIA was planting stories in the corporate media way back THEN, even), but there's too much dissemination of information to label all of these people insane conspiracy theorists now.
I can go on forever about this subject, of course. If you can't google any of the information that I've sent you tidbits about, let me know and I'll try to get a list made up for you as soon as I have the time.

-The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious
manner to amuse myself.-

ΓÇ£In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.ΓÇ¥-- George Orwell

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I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook).
I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them to be.

The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know or understand us.
Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have
liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if five percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would be in a world of shit!
Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!



A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Wed Mar 06 2013 23:00:37

I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook) I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them be.

The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know or understand us.
Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if fiv percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would b in a world of shit!
Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!

I don't know if I believe that Sandy Hook was a sort of 'false flag' either, really. I'm just saying that the 2nd dude in the woods near there that got arrested was really weird, and a lot of the media missteps around the initial reports coming out of the scene were odd, too. It's hard to know where to draw the line in what to believe and what not to believe when you know that your government is lying to you about so damn much.
I've heard rumors (again, tough to know what is substantial) about Obama starting to purge lower-ranking high officers (that is, LTCs and above, I believe) regarding their agreement on standing down and allowing the UN to send in the blue helmets on our domestic soil, though. I suspect that it could be Plan B if he found too much resistance when he was purging general officers who weren't willing to agree to fire on US citizens should the 'need' arise. Allegedly anybody who didn't agree to this was given an amnesty period of sorts in which to declare their viewpoints and still receive an Honorable Discharge.

-The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious manner to amuse myself.-

ΓÇ£In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.ΓÇ¥-- George Orwell

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Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Wed Mar 06 2013 23:00:37

I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook) I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them be.

The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know
or understand us.
Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if fiv percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would b in a world of shit!
Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!

I don't know if I believe that Sandy Hook was a sort of 'false flag' either, really. I'm just saying that the 2nd dude in the woods near there that got arrested was really weird, and a lot of the media missteps around the initial reports coming out of the scene were odd, too. It's hard to know where to draw the line in what to believe and what not to believe when you know that your government is lying to you about so damn much.
I've heard rumors (again, tough to know what is substantial) about
Obama starting to purge lower-ranking high officers (that is, LTCs and above, I believe) regarding their agreement on standing down and allowing the UN to send in the blue helmets on our domestic soil, though. I suspect that it could be Plan B if he found too much resistance when he was purging general officers who weren't willing to agree to fire on US citizens should the 'need' arise. Allegedly anybody who didn't agree to this was given an amnesty period of sorts in which to declare their viewpoints and still receive an Honorable Discharge.
-The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious
manner to amuse myself.-

ΓÇ£In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.ΓÇ¥-- George Orwell

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Khelair there is much smoke and mirrors going on within our government and in the press. When you have a President like Obama who openly bribes members of congress to pass bills, who routinely breaks laws and actually hates our constitution anything is possible.

Obama and his Progressive thugs lie right to the camera about everything from gun control to who actually proposed the sequester. No budgets since Obama has been in office yet they can by 2 billions hollow point rounds, armored
vehicles and 7000 assault weapons for DHS! I think the ammo by is for two reasons one is to starve supply for citizens who know our government is illegitimate and to prepare for civil unrest that Obama has been fomenting.

If the U.N. ever tries to lean on Americans all bets are off except we know
the U.N. could not fight it's way out of a paper bag and would soon leave
after taking a few casualties.
I do believe Obama and his Progressives are trying to anger Christian
Americans who believe in our constitution. The only problem for the progressives is Americans will fight and our military will stand with us. Lets hope it never comes to that.
I have also heard of the purge in the military but do not believe Obama will
be successful in turning our military against fellow Americans. No way no how!



A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Fri Mar 08 2013 19:56:47

I do believe Obama and his Progressives are trying to anger Christian Americans who believe in our constitution. The only problem for the progressives is Americans will fight and our military will stand with us. Le hope it never comes to that.

Jeff I've got to say I agree completely with what you've said in your reply. I was recently saddened to hear that one of my own local senators was actually out dining with Obama the day (and into the night) that Rand Paul was doing the fillibuster. I suppose I should have expected it, with all of the oil money that our state is pulling in, especially considering the state of the economy in the rest of the nation (ND), but it still made me ill.
I really hope that you're right on the last little bit.


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