When I save conversations from MSN/Live Messenger, the emoticons aren't saved in the file with the conversation. I can manually copy & paste the emoticon graphics into the saved conversation file, but it seems that Messenger should be able to do that when it saves the conversation. Is there a way to save a conversation with emoticons more easily?

Nightfox

In a reply from Nightfox on 12:12 about MSN/Live Messenger - Savi

When I save conversations from MSN/Live Messenger, the emoticons aren't saved in the file with the conversation. I can manually copy & paste the emoticon graphics into the saved conversation file, but it seems that Messenger should be able to do that when it saves the conversation. Is there a way to save a conversation with emoticons more easily?

hmmmm, you could try trillian http://www.trillian.im/

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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Lord Time to Nightfox on Mon Jan 17 2011 11:35 pm

In a reply from Nightfox on 12:12 about MSN/Live Messenger - Savi

When I save conversations from MSN/Live Messenger, the emoticons aren't saved in the file with the conversation. I can manually copy & paste the emoticon graphics into the saved conversation file, but it seems that Messenger should be able to do that when it saves the conversation. Is ther
a way to save a conversation with emoticons more easily?

hmmmm, you could try trillian http://www.trillian.im/

Miranda IM or Pidgin are other good options, and support a whole boatload of additional features. I personally like the Off-the-Record Messaging plugin,
as it uses RSA encryption for instant messages with other people who use it. Anyone that's ever fired up a packetscanner on a wifi network knows why that would be helpful...

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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Lord Time to Nightfox on Mon Jan 17 2011 23:35:00

Trillian instant messenger is absolutely awesome for emoticons. Their extended subset allows you to have virtual heiroglyphic conversations, if you're so inclined, and the added audio effects corresponding can cause some pretty hillarious additional lulz depending on how cackleworthy your conversation may be.

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Re: Trillian IM
By: Loving Sock to Lord Time on Tue Jan 18 2011 05:11 pm

Trillian instant messenger is absolutely awesome for emoticons. Their exten subset allows you to have virtual heiroglyphic conversations, if you're so inclined, and the added audio effects corresponding can cause some pretty hillarious additional lulz depending on how cackleworthy your conversation m be.

I bought Trillian because it is an above average twitter client :)
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In a reply from Loving Sock on 17:11 about Trillian IM

Trillian instant messenger is absolutely awesome for emoticons.

yep

Their
extended subset allows you to have virtual heiroglyphic conversations, if you're so inclined, and the added audio effects corresponding can cause some pretty hillarious additional lulz depending on how cackleworthy your conversation may be.

yep, been a pay user for almost a year, before that a free user

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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Lord Time to Nightfox on Mon Jan 17 2011 23:35:00

hmmmm, you could try trillian http://www.trillian.im/

I tried Trillian once, years ago.. I tend to dislike 3rd-party chat programs, as opposed to the official chat programs, because they don't support all the features of the official chat programs. There have been times when I've tried one of the 3rd-party chat programs, and people would try to use a feature of the standard client with me, and of course it wouldn't work because the client I was using didn't support it. And as someone who tends to use the standard chat clients, I've tried to use some of their features with people using 3rd-party chat programs, to find that the feature just doesn't work with their client.

Nightfox

In a reply from Nightfox on 22:43 about MSN/Live Messenger - Savi

hmmmm, you could try trillian http://www.trillian.im/

I tried Trillian once, years ago..

ok

I tend to dislike 3rd-party chat
programs, as opposed to the official chat programs, because they don't support all the features of the official chat programs. There have been times when I've tried one of the 3rd-party chat programs, and people would try to use a feature of the standard client with me, and of course it wouldn't work because the client I was using didn't support it. And as someone who tends to use the standard chat clients, I've tried to use some of their features with people using 3rd-party chat programs, to find that the feature just doesn't work with their client.

ok, the v4 and v5 (beta) are better the the v3.1-

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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Nightfox to Lord Time on Wed Jan 19 2011 10:43 pm

features of the official chat programs. There have been times when I've tri one of the 3rd-party chat programs, and people would try to use a feature of the standard client with me, and of course it wouldn't work because the clie I was using didn't support it. And as someone who tends to use the standard chat clients, I've tried to use some of their features with people using 3rd-party chat programs, to find that the feature just doesn't work with the client.

i used trillian on and off. i REALLY wanted to like it. it has very
poor irc support and other issues though. also i dont like astra.

right now i'm using bitlbee with my irc client, and i live it.
i have a server up on bbses.info if anybody wants to try it, or they can use the offical servers or run their own. works great!
also passwords are encrypted so you dont have to worry about offical
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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Jas Hud to Nightfox on Sat Jan 22 2011 11:36 pm

i used trillian on and off. i REALLY wanted to like it. it has very
poor irc support and other issues though. also i dont like astra.

right now i'm using bitlbee with my irc client, and i live it.
i have a server up on bbses.info if anybody wants to try it, or they can use the offical servers or run their own. works great!
also passwords are encrypted so you dont have to worry about offical versions.

I really like the Pidgin client that originated on Linux. The Windows version works very well thanks to GTK.

Although I don't use AIM anymore, couple years ago I'd just keep a screen'd process of the greatest console client ever made, nAIM. And irssi for IRC all the way. SSH + screen are a man's best friend.

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Re: Messenger Clients
By: Comet to Jas Hud on Thu Jan 27 2011 08:38 pm

Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Jas Hud to Nightfox on Sat Jan 22 2011 11:36 pm

i used trillian on and off. i REALLY wanted to like it. it has very
poor irc support and other issues though. also i dont like astra.

right now i'm using bitlbee with my irc client, and i live it.
i have a server up on bbses.info if anybody wants to try it, or they can us
the offical servers or run their own. works great!
also passwords are encrypted so you dont have to worry about offical versions.

I really like the Pidgin client that originated on Linux. The Windows version
works very well thanks to GTK.

Although I don't use AIM anymore, couple years ago I'd just keep a screen'd process of the greatest console client ever made, nAIM. And irssi for IRC all
the way. SSH + screen are a man's best friend.

I used to use nAIM quite a few years back. These days though, if I'm using AIM via a console, I prefer using bitlbee, which is an irc instant messaging gateway. This way, I can connect irssi to whatever IRC servers I'm on, and then also to a bitlbee gateway, and have everything in one program, using windows in irssi. Bitlbee supports just about all of the major IM protocol,
so it definitely can cut down on the number of different programs running.

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I used to use nAIM quite a few years back. These days though, if I'm using

AIM

via a console, I prefer using bitlbee, which is an irc instant messaging gateway. This way, I can connect irssi to whatever IRC servers I'm on, and then also to a bitlbee gateway, and have everything in one program, using windows in irssi. Bitlbee supports just about all of the major IM protocol, so it definitely can cut down on the number of different programs running.

Wow just looked at the bitlbee website. What a cool way to integrate your IM clients. IRC has always been the perfect avenue. I hear a lot of people are using
that twirssi script to get your tweets in IRSSI too. One day we'll never even have to leave IRC. mmm...

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Re: Re: Messenger Clients
By: Comet to Cykros on Sat Jan 29 2011 07:24 am

I used to use nAIM quite a few years back. These days though, if I'm usin

AIM

via a console, I prefer using bitlbee, which is an irc instant messaging gateway. This way, I can connect irssi to whatever IRC servers I'm on, a then also to a bitlbee gateway, and have everything in one program, using windows in irssi. Bitlbee supports just about all of the major IM protoc so it definitely can cut down on the number of different programs running

Wow just looked at the bitlbee website. What a cool way to integrate your IM clients. IRC has always been the perfect avenue. I hear a lot of people are using
that twirssi script to get your tweets in IRSSI too. One day we'll never eve have to leave IRC. mmm...

There is also a plugin or two for irssi that is a client for mpd (music player daemon) allowing you to have full control over your music from within irssi. MPD can get VERY interesting when you're using a client via an ssh connection...remote control music via the internet!

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There is also a plugin or two for irssi that is a client for mpd (music

player

daemon) allowing you to have full control over your music from within irssi. MPD can get VERY interesting when you're using a client via an ssh connection...remote control music via the internet!

-cykros

how in God's name does it pass sound over SSH like that? I imagine you couldn't use putty for that? that would be crazy.

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Re: Re: Messenger Clients
By: Comet to Cykros on Sun Jan 30 2011 09:13 pm

There is also a plugin or two for irssi that is a client for mpd (music

player

daemon) allowing you to have full control over your music from within irs MPD can get VERY interesting when you're using a client via an ssh connection...remote control music via the internet!

-cykros

how in God's name does it pass sound over SSH like that? I imagine you could use putty for that? that would be crazy.

It doesn't pass sound over ssh, that's why it's remote control, not streaming.
I've used it this way before though on a home network with a surround sound speaker system on the server computer while i was in another room using a laptop. Not all that useful other than this kind of setup, but you can see that it could be useful to turn your smartphone into a music remote control
for the house.

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It doesn't pass sound over ssh, that's why it's remote control, not

streaming.

I've used it this way before though on a home network with a surround sound speaker system on the server computer while i was in another room using a laptop. Not all that useful other than this kind of setup, but you can see that it could be useful to turn your smartphone into a music remote control for the house.

cykros

ahh ok :-) I was picturing myself listening to music at work while SSH'd to my home computer.

definitely sounds like you've put it to good use.

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Re: Re: Messenger Clients
By: Comet to Cykros on Mon Jan 31 2011 08:09 pm

It doesn't pass sound over ssh, that's why it's remote control, not

streaming.

I've used it this way before though on a home network with a surround soun
speaker system on the server computer while i was in another room using a laptop. Not all that useful other than this kind of setup, but you can see
that it could be useful to turn your smartphone into a music remote control
for the house.

cykros

ahh ok :-) I was picturing myself listening to music at work while SSH'd to my
home computer.

definitely sounds like you've put it to good use.

If you're aiming for that kind of functionality, you CAN use icecast in conjunction with mpd, and then control it with the irssi client, however, you'll also need to have a shoutcast/icecast compatible mp3 player locally to handle the stream. Not sure if that alone would suit your needs, but it is quite possible.

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When I save conversations from MSN/Live Messenger, the emoticons aren't saved in the file with the conversation. I can manually copy & paste
the emoticon graphics into the saved conversation file, but it seems
that Messenger should be able to do that when it saves the
conversation. Is there a way to save a conversation with emoticons more easily?

Have you tried Messenger Plus! Live? (www.msgpluslive.net)

It can log rich conversations, including emoticons and winks. It's a bolt-on to Live message, so does not require using a third-party MSN client.

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Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: art to Nightfox on Thu Feb 03 2011 09:08:00

Have you tried Messenger Plus! Live? (www.msgpluslive.net)

It can log rich conversations, including emoticons and winks. It's a bolt-on Live message, so does not require using a third-party MSN client.

I'll check it out. Thanks. :)

Nightfox

Nightfox wrote:

There have been times when I've tried
one of the 3rd-party chat programs, and people would try to use a feature of the standard client with me, and of course it wouldn't work because the client
I was using didn't support it.

I use meebo or pidgin these days, if anything... I'm there to converse via text... someone wats to play scrabble with me while they do that, sucks to be them...

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Re: Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Tue Feb 15 2011 03:55:33

I use meebo or pidgin these days, if anything... I'm there to converse via text... someone wats to play scrabble with me while they do that, sucks to b them...

I can understand that.

The core functionality of those programs is to chat, but I also like to be
able to use the other features if I want to. Also, it seems to me that some of the non-official chat programs don't even say anything if the other person sends a request to do one of its special features - things like that can sometimes make people think you're ignoring them.

Nightfox

Re: Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Nightfox to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 15 2011 13:26:22

Ahoy Nightfox,

The core functionality of those programs is to chat, but I also like to be able to use the other features if I want to. Also, it seems to me that some

... have you checked out Messenger Plus! yet? (www.msgplus.net) :)

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Re: Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: art to Nightfox on Thu Feb 17 2011 17:54:34

... have you checked out Messenger Plus! yet? (www.msgplus.net) :)

:) I did try it. It looks cool, but I'm not sure if I'd use the features it adds.. It didn't fix what is wrong with my Messenger.

Nigthfox

Re: Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: Nightfox to art on Thu Feb 17 2011 21:37:49

Hey Nightfox,

:) I did try it. It looks cool, but I'm not sure if I'd use the features adds.. It didn't fix what is wrong with my Messenger.

I think it has options for much mroe advanced logging--IIRC that was the issue, could be mistaken tho :)

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Re: Re: MSN/Live Messenger - Savi
By: art to Nightfox on Sat Feb 19 2011 16:40:21

I think it has options for much mroe advanced logging--IIRC that was the iss could be mistaken tho :)

Not exactly.. With Live Messenger, in a conversation window, you can choose File > Save As to save the conversation (to an .rtf file). When you do that, it saves the text, but it doesn't save the graphic emoticons to the file, and that's what I wanted to do. I didn't see anything in Messenger Plus that allowed that, unless I missed something..

I've been having a new problem with Live Messenger lately though. For some reason, it has disabled graphic emoticons and won't let me re-enable them. I found the option for that (Tools > Options > Messeages > Show Emoticons), but when I enable that and click "OK", they're not enabled; and indeed, when I go back to the options, the checkbox is not checked anymore. I don't know what's going on with it..

Nightfox