Recently I built a new PC, and as I've been installing software on it, I'v

> > noticed that some software takes forever to install and/or un-install (i.e
> > Nero 10 and LightScribe system software took a very long time).

One thought.. seems to me Nero adds literally hundreds of entries to
the registry so maybe that's slowing things down, especially if some
type of security software is monitoring the registry.

I've re-installed Windows fresh and installed my apps, and so far things are

>working fine. The thing I haven't done so far is to run Windows Update, whic
>leads me to believe that some Windows fix/patch messed things up, which seems
>bit odd to me..

Sounds about typical to me... I try to tell friends to delay installing
updates until they've been out a while and only pick those which you
know will effect your use of your computer. Too often you see a fix come
out, followed by a fix for the fix, followed by a fix for that...

(BTW, I'm a Windows user so this isn't an Apple or Linux 'rant'..) B)

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Re: Installshield Apps Taking
By: ROB MCCART to NIGHTFOX on Sun Aug 14 2011 17:16:00

One thought.. seems to me Nero adds literally hundreds of entries to
the registry so maybe that's slowing things down, especially if some
type of security software is monitoring the registry.

Perhaps.. But after I re-installed everything, Nero installed fine and didn't take that long.

I've re-installed Windows fresh and installed my apps, and so far things

>working fine. The thing I haven't done so far is to run Windows Update,
>leads me to believe that some Windows fix/patch messed things up, which s
>bit odd to me..

Sounds about typical to me... I try to tell friends to delay installing updates until they've been out a while and only pick those which you
know will effect your use of your computer. Too often you see a fix come out, followed by a fix for the fix, followed by a fix for that...

Over time, though, Windows can build up hundreds of little updates; I'd have to research which ones cause other people trouble and keep track of them all..

Nightfox

Sounds about typical to me... I try to tell friends to delay installing

> > updates until they've been out a while and only pick those which you
> > know will effect your use of your computer. Too often you see a fix come
> > out, followed by a fix for the fix, followed by a fix for that...

Over time, though, Windows can build up hundreds of little updates; I'd have

>research which ones cause other people trouble and keep track of them all..

Yes.. at times it can be best to just do the most critical security ones
and then, when a full Service Pack comes out, which I have to assume is
much better tested than the individual updates, maybe do a reinstall using
the Service pack.. Bit of a hassle to do it that way but a lot of people reinstall the OS fairly frequently and can time it to that..
Me?.. I get 6 or 7 years without a reinstall but I use a lot of cleanup utilities and have had lots of practice keeping the junk out of the system so... don't try this at home kids... B)

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Re: Installshield Apps Taking
By: ROB MCCART to NIGHTFOX on Tue Aug 23 2011 05:08 pm

Me?.. I get 6 or 7 years without a reinstall but I use a lot of cleanup utilities and have had lots of practice keeping the junk out of the system so... don't try this at home kids... B)

Best tool I've found yet is called Easy Cleaner, by Toni Arts. It does the registry cleaning, searches for duplicate files, has disk usage graphs, and more all in one very light app.


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Me?.. I get 6 or 7 years without a reinstall but I use a lot of cleanup

> > utilities and have had lots of practice keeping the junk out of the system
> > so... don't try this at home kids... B)

Best tool I've found yet is called Easy Cleaner, by Toni Arts. It does the

>registry cleaning, searches for duplicate files, has disk usage graphs, and
>more all in one very light app.

That's actually one of the tools on my system..
I find different regcleaners find and miss different things so
it's handy to have more than one, although you have to know
what's going on well enough to have it Not remove things that
might be needed when running some of the more aggressive ones.
JV16 Power Tools is a pretty thorough one with other utilities
built in as well. TweakNow Reg Cleaner is another that clearly
points out what is safe to remove and what it's not certain is
safe so you can leave the less certain ones alone.

CCleaner is a nice program for cleaning up the junk files and cookies
and such with the added bonus of being user set to ignore certain files, cookies and folders so you don't hurt the things you do want to keep.

I have a couple of things that can track every change made to the
hard drive and registry when something is installed so it's easier
to clean up properly later if you decide not to keep it.
InControl is one of those but I'm not sure which of the newer
versions of Windows it supports.

I also do a manual backup of the registry and main Windows INI
files before installing anything so that, worst case, I can boot
using something else and replace the system files with copies
just a few minutes old.

Treesize Pro (I think there's still a freeware version too) is
handy for looking at your drive to see where big files are
located, often ones you don't need anymore.

The free version of the Newsletter 'Windows Secrets' has a good
article this week on cleaning the junk out of Windows 7.

A friend of mine recently had amazing results repairing two
computers that were virtually unusable running a program
called AVG PC Tuneup (from the AVG Anti-Virus people).
Looking closely at what it's supposed to be able to do,
which didn't strike me as all that much, I was amazed it
worked so well, but it did.
They have a 1-time 24 hour free trial version online.

Possibly another regcleaner utility would have helped him
out just as much had he tried that first.

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Re: Installshield Apps Taking
By: ROB MCCART to DREAMER on Thu Aug 25 2011 17:26:00

I find different regcleaners find and miss different things so
it's handy to have more than one, although you have to know
what's going on well enough to have it Not remove things that
might be needed when running some of the more aggressive ones.

I think the Windows registry has made things a bit overly complex.. If Microsoft hadn't added the registry, and apps were still storing settings in their own configuration files, I think the system would be more easily kept clean.

Nightfox

I find different regcleaners find and miss different things so

> > it's handy to have more than one, although you have to know
> > what's going on well enough to have it Not remove things that
> > might be needed when running some of the more aggressive ones.

I think the Windows registry has made things a bit overly complex.. If

>Microsoft hadn't added the registry, and apps were still storing settings in
>their own configuration files, I think the system would be more easily kept
>clean.

Definitely.. Easier to copy (pirate) software too which is probably
why they keep it as complex as possible.. B)

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Re: Installshield Apps Taking
By: Nightfox to ROB MCCART on Sun Aug 28 2011 09:29 am

I think the Windows registry has made things a bit overly complex.. If Microsoft hadn't added the registry, and apps were still storing settings in their own configuration files, I think the system would be more easily kept clean.

MS stole the registry idea from IBM's AIX Unix O/S.
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