I think it might be fun to try to link Worldgroup into my current BBS software, as I run a MBBS (soon to be upgraded to WG3) system as well as this one, for the old members of The Rock Garden.

I've written some of an NNTP <>> > > > Quarkware gateway, so I could have the same message bases (including dove.net) on both systems.

I'd like to link teleconference on MBBS/WG with the chat system on Quarkware, which is just an IRC server (the BBS provides an IRC client).

I can't find an easy way to do this. There use to be something called WORLDLINK for WG, but it's gone. I've found a couple of WG modules to link WG systems together... but I don't have a reg code and even if I did it wouldn't really help me... I'd still have to write some sort of code to make Quarkware talk to it.

Any ideas?


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to ALL on Thu Dec 05 2013 12:27 am

I think it might be fun to try to link Worldgroup into my current BBS software, as I run a MBBS (soon to be upgraded to WG3) system as well as thi one, for the old members of The Rock Garden.

I've written some of an NNTP <>> > > > Quarkware gateway, so I could hav the same message bases (including dove.net) on both systems.

I'd like to link teleconference on MBBS/WG with the chat system on Quarkware which is just an IRC server (the BBS provides an IRC client).

I can't find an easy way to do this. There use to be something called WORLDLINK for WG, but it's gone. I've found a couple of WG modules to link systems together... but I don't have a reg code and even if I did it wouldn' really help me... I'd still have to write some sort of code to make Quarkwar talk to it.

Any ideas?

I have linked my bbs experience with synchronet to majorbbs 6.25. I do have a WG3 model running too that I have been toying around with. I am not entirely sure if you are set on how to provide your vision of this but feel free to take a peek at what I did over at telnet://bbs.wehack.net

-iks(Visievion)
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--- IKS wrote --
I have linked my bbs experience with synchronet to majorbbs 6.25. I do h WG3 model running too that I have been toying around with. I am not entire sure if you are set on how to provide your vision of this but feel free to
a peek at what I did over at telnet://bbs.wehack.ne

Cool... I'll check that out. Right now I'm playing with having my BBS software automatically create accounts and connect to MBBS... basically to use it as a MBBS game server. I have that bit more or less working.

I also have (limited) theme support written into this software. I'm toying with the idea of making an MBBS theme so I then don't have to deal with any of the rest of MBBS, which I really don't like.

I'm waiting for a logon id for your system. How do you connect to MBBS from Synch? I can't get rlogon to work... so I've basically written code to glue them together via telnet... but it's kind of a pain...


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to IKS on Thu Dec 05 2013 11:11 pm

--- IKS wrote --
I have linked my bbs experience with synchronet to majorbbs 6.25. I do h WG3 model running too that I have been toying around with. I am not entire sure if you are set on how to provide your vision of this but feel free to a peek at what I did over at telnet://bbs.wehack.ne

Cool... I'll check that out. Right now I'm playing with having my BBS software automatically create accounts and connect to MBBS... basically to u it as a MBBS game server. I have that bit more or less working.

I also have (limited) theme support written into this software. I'm toying with the idea of making an MBBS theme so I then don't have to deal with any the rest of MBBS, which I really don't like.

I'm waiting for a logon id for your system. How do you connect to MBBS from Synch? I can't get rlogon to work... so I've basically written code to glue them together via telnet... but it's kind of a pain...

mbbs dont have any networking proticols in it, but netware and I forget the others, but no networking. and these are if your version is compiled for it.

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--- CURLY wrote --

mbbs dont have any networking proticols in it, but netware and I forget th others, but no networking. and these are if your version is compiled for i

The MBBS versions relied on Vircom MajorTCP. Which, of course, you had to buy. For a huge sum.

The "newer" Worldgroup stuff has all that built in... as the world was moving to the Internet, the folks at Galacticom bet on the custom client/server model (like AOL and Prodigy at the time) and bet wrong.

It didn't really matter though, which way they went, BBSes as a business were doomed.


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to CURLY on Fri Dec 06 2013 09:27 am

--- CURLY wrote --

mbbs dont have any networking proticols in it, but netware and I forget th others, but no networking. and these are if your version is compiled for i

The MBBS versions relied on Vircom MajorTCP. Which, of course, you had to buy. For a huge sum.

The "newer" Worldgroup stuff has all that built in... as the world was movin to the Internet, the folks at Galacticom bet on the custom client/server mod (like AOL and Prodigy at the time) and bet wrong.

It didn't really matter though, which way they went, BBSes as a business wer doomed.

yep. mbbs also had the galico package, but it was not as good as the
vircom package.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to CURLY on Fri Dec 06 2013 09:27 am

It didn't really matter though, which way they went, BBSes as a business were doomed.

Thankfully. I hated the idea of a BBS as a business. It marginalized the small community BBSes and made BBSing a business venture in the minds of some.

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Re: Worldlink...
By: Poindexter Fortran to the doctor on Fri Dec 06 2013 06:57 am

Thankfully. I hated the idea of a BBS as a business. It marginalized the small community BBSes and made BBSing a business venture in the minds of some.

yeah it was amusing though when these guys would get a small amount of cash and then they'd think they can quit their job and make a living out of it.


there's even a few of them around. i signed up for a new bbs and there was nothing to do there so i never called back. next day i got an email saying that my security has been downgraded and if i want to be a member i have to pay 20/month.

another guy said i was 'defrauding his business' because i didnt enter my address in the new user form. i went on his website and had some laughs. "06/02/2011 - Galactic Empire RESET
This game was totally won by Dragon congrats! Too bad your membership expired or you would have won 15 days."

now i see the clown dropped the rates.
paypal kept banning him so that is kinda odd.
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Dec 06 2013 12:12 pm

there's even a few of them around. i signed up for a new bbs and there was nothing to do there so i never called back. next day i got an email saying that my security has been downgraded and if i want to be a member i have to pay 20/month.

Hilarious! Let's all call it. Where is it?

another guy said i was 'defrauding his business' because i didnt enter my address in the new user form. i went on his website and had some laughs.

Sounds like all of those "My BBS is my living room" control freaks. I've had a board ask for a telephone number to validate. In 2013. I was tempted to get a number from my company's Berlin office to ring to my cell phone to see if he wanted to call international.

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Re: Worldlink...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Fri Dec 06 2013 19:58:36

another guy said i was 'defrauding his business' because i didnt
enter my address in the new user form. i went on his website and had
some laughs.

Sounds like all of those "My BBS is my living room" control freaks. I've had a board ask for a telephone number to validate. In 2013. I was
tempted to get a number from my company's Berlin office to ring to my
cell phone to see if he wanted to call international.

hah.. That's funny. I'm surprised a BBS sysop would want to personally call a user's phone number these days. I thought that was a bit creepy even back in the BBS heyday in the early-mid 90s when I first started using BBSes. I never knew why sysops felt the need to do that.

BBS call-back verifier doors I could understand though, in order to try to elimindate duplicate user accounts.

Nightfox

Re: Worldlink...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Fri Dec 06 2013 07:58 pm

there's even a few of them around. i signed up for a new bbs and there was nothing to do there so i never called back. next day i got an
email saying that my security has been downgraded and if i want to be
a member i have to pay 20/month.

Hilarious! Let's all call it. Where is it?

it looks like he dropped the rate. it's thekeep
he also has this funny shit on the bottom of his webpage

NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, p.227, any and all unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. Anyone who sends unsolicited commercial e-mail to this server will be charged a $500 proofreading fee. Consider this official notification. Failure to abide by this will result in legal action.


i wish i would have thought of that proofreading fee. i could quit my job.
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Dec 06 2013 11:30 pm

hah.. That's funny. I'm surprised a BBS sysop would want to personally call a user's phone number these days. I thought that was a bit creepy
even back in the BBS heyday in the early-mid 90s when I first started using BBSes. I never knew why sysops felt the need to do that.

BBS call-back verifier doors I could understand though, in order to try to elimindate duplicate user accounts.

there's one in janesville, wi that does that. he also wants money each month for subscriptions. i emailed him asking him if this stuff was left on the bbs for nostalgia, but he was serious about it.
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--- POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote --

Thankfully. I hated the idea of a BBS as a business. It marginalized the s community BBSes and made BBSing a business venture in the minds of some

Yeah. I never played that game. In the before time, my system was always a one line affair, and mainly about messages, not games.

I always have had a weakness for Tradewars, though, even though I'm rubbish.



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--- MRO wrote --
Re: Worldlink..

it looks like he dropped the rate. it's thekee
he also has this funny shit on the bottom of his webpag

I'm not paying $10 a month to hang out. He does seem to have about 30 users though, and some folks were logged on when I had a look.

We should set up an award for "worst webpage"... if there isn't one already. We could start with that one.


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to MRO on Wed Dec 11 2013 11:49 pm

--- MRO wrote --
Re: Worldlink..

it looks like he dropped the rate. it's thekee
he also has this funny shit on the bottom of his webpag

I'm not paying $10 a month to hang out. He does seem to have about 30
users though, and some folks were logged on when I had a look.

We should set up an award for "worst webpage"... if there isn't one
already. We could start with that one.

i'm not sure if there's a module that shows fake users online for that bbs software or not. i do notice that some of these majorbbs bbses have a lot of people online but doing nothing.
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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Dec 11 2013 11:29 pm

--- POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote --

Thankfully. I hated the idea of a BBS as a business. It marginalized the s community BBSes and made BBSing a business venture in the minds of some

Yeah. I never played that game. In the before time, my system was always a one line affair, and mainly about messages, not games.

I always have had a weakness for Tradewars, though, even though I'm rubbish.

my church nought a full license for that trade wars server.
and 3 people played it in 1 year.
there is 85.00 we will never get back.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to the doctor on Wed Dec 11 2013 05:32 pm

my church nought a full license for that trade wars server.
and 3 people played it in 1 year.
there is 85.00 we will never get back.

yeah well, you gotta admit, that's a bad idea for a church.
whats the story behind that and how did the guy pitch that idea?
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to Curly on Wed Dec 11 2013 11:27 pm

Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to the doctor on Wed Dec 11 2013 05:32 pm

my church nought a full license for that trade wars server.
and 3 people played it in 1 year.
there is 85.00 we will never get back.

yeah well, you gotta admit, that's a bad idea for a church.
whats the story behind that and how did the guy pitch that idea?
could have been spent better on some paint for the church or wine or somethi

this year we bought fruitcake.
that is not to popular either...

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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--- MRO wrote --

i'm not sure if there's a module that shows fake users online for that bb software or not. i do notice that some of these majorbbs bbses have a lot people online but doing nothing

I wondered about that as well. Anyone know anything about writing modules for that thing?


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--- CURLY wrote --
my church nought a full license for that trade wars server
and 3 people played it in 1 year
there is 85.00 we will never get back

Heh. I don't remember it being that much, but I've owned a copy for years...



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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to MRO on Thu Dec 12 2013 02:56 pm

--- MRO wrote --

i'm not sure if there's a module that shows fake users online for that bb software or not. i do notice that some of these majorbbs bbses have a lot people online but doing nothing

I wondered about that as well. Anyone know anything about writing modules f that thing?

to write for the majorbbs or worldgroup you need a few tools and the base source code. and for mbbs you also need pharlap dos extender.
all which is hard to find unless you had it to begin with.
which I do, I have mbbs 6.25 and worldgroup 3.2 all with source and utils.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to the doctor on Wed Dec 11 2013 07:19 pm

i'm not sure if there's a module that shows fake users online for that bbs software or not. i do notice that some of these majorbbs bbses have a lot of people online but doing nothing.

That's what I need, a BBS user BOT!

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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Dec 11 2013 11:29 pm

I always have had a weakness for Tradewars, though, even though I'm
rubbish.

Haha, me too!!

Hard Drive Cafe has 2 TWGS servers running. A Public server at telnet://twgs.hdcbbs.com and a private one thats accessible only from the BBS. telnet://hdcbbs.com

come play, the universe is only a few days old! :)

Jason


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Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Dec 12 2013 02:21 am

yeah well, you gotta admit, that's a bad idea for a church.
whats the story behind that and how did the guy pitch that idea?
could have been spent better on some paint for the church or wine or somethi

this year we bought fruitcake.
that is not to popular either...

was it some bad cheap fruitcake? after we talked about fruitcake a few weeks ago, i bought one and ate that whole sucker.
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to the doctor on Thu Dec 12 2013 08:43 am

to write for the majorbbs or worldgroup you need a few tools and the base source code. and for mbbs you also need pharlap dos extender.
all which is hard to find unless you had it to begin with.
which I do, I have mbbs 6.25 and worldgroup 3.2 all with source and utils.

doesnt questman still have all that on some 'hidden' url on the website?
i downloaded it all a few times, dont know where i put it.
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Thu Dec 12 2013 07:08 am

Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to the doctor on Wed Dec 11 2013 07:19 pm

i'm not sure if there's a module that shows fake users online for that bbs software or not. i do notice that some of these majorbbs bbses
have a lot of people online but doing nothing.

That's what I need, a BBS user BOT!

hey, a .js bbs user npc module! we thought up something useful!

also i want them to send me emails and argue with me. and download files and suck up my bw. and play games and hang up in them.

i think we're onto something!
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to Curly on Thu Dec 12 2013 10:41 pm

Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Dec 12 2013 02:21 am

yeah well, you gotta admit, that's a bad idea for a church.
whats the story behind that and how did the guy pitch that idea?
could have been spent better on some paint for the church or wine or somethi

this year we bought fruitcake.
that is not to popular either...

was it some bad cheap fruitcake? after we talked about fruitcake a few weeks ago, i bought one and ate that whole sucker.

I tryed a few. claxton was the worse, like a giant sticky candy bar.
now we buy Texas Manor Fruitcake. very nice stuff
I hear this more than I thought. I gave a cashier 2 loafs for a tip.
she said she would save it for a party. next time I see her she asked for more I said how was it, she said her husband ate both loafs by himself when he came home from work last week.


"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Worldlink...
By: Mro to Curly on Thu Dec 12 2013 10:42 pm

Re: Worldlink...
By: Curly to the doctor on Thu Dec 12 2013 08:43 am

to write for the majorbbs or worldgroup you need a few tools and the base source code. and for mbbs you also need pharlap dos extender.
all which is hard to find unless you had it to begin with.
which I do, I have mbbs 6.25 and worldgroup 3.2 all with source and utils

doesnt questman still have all that on some 'hidden' url on the website?
i downloaded it all a few times, dont know where i put it.

a lot of it but not all.
like forbidden lands and quest of the alchenist.
and his server crashed, he said he dont know when it will be up again.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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--- CURLY wrote --

to write for the majorbbs or worldgroup you need a few tools and the bas source code. and for mbbs you also need pharlap dos extender
all which is hard to find unless you had it to begin with
which I do, I have mbbs 6.25 and worldgroup 3.2 all with source and utils

I take it you have to write this stuff in C (not ++)?

I've never written a program in C, ever. I can read it, as I've ported plenty of things.

I don't suppose I could get my hands on these tools?


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--- JASON wrote --
Haha, me too!

Hard Drive Cafe has 2 TWGS servers running. A Public server at telnet://twgs.hdcbbs.com and a private one thats accessible only from the telnet://hdcbbs.co

come play, the universe is only a few days old! :

I may take you up on that. I think we should have one, big Dove.Net game someplace... and insist that Digital Man play.


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Re: Worldlink...
By: the doctor to CURLY on Sat Dec 14 2013 07:11 pm

--- CURLY wrote --

to write for the majorbbs or worldgroup you need a few tools and the bas source code. and for mbbs you also need pharlap dos extender
all which is hard to find unless you had it to begin with
which I do, I have mbbs 6.25 and worldgroup 3.2 all with source and utils

I take it you have to write this stuff in C (not ++)?

I've never written a program in C, ever. I can read it, as I've ported plen of things.

I don't suppose I could get my hands on these tools?

prolly
and you need borland c 3.1 too.
I can send you a game source code too.
and you need a full majorbbs package too.
so you also get the btrieve package. thats mbbses database engine

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Worldlink...
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Dec 06 2013 23:30:44

hah.. That's funny. I'm surprised a BBS sysop would want to personally call a user's phone number these days. I thought that was a bit creepy even back in the BBS heyday in the early-mid 90s when I first started using BBSes. I never knew why sysops felt the need to do that.

BBS call-back verifier doors I could understand though, in order to try elimindate duplicate user accounts.

I could barley pay the phone bill as it was. I'm going to use call back verification? I don't think so. ;-0

HusTler

Re: Worldlink...
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Wed Jan 08 2014 18:34:40

I could barley pay the phone bill as it was. I'm going to use call back verification? I don't think so. ;-0

That's why I tended to only call local BBSes.. No extra phone charges that way. :)

Nightfox

Re: Worldlink...
By: HusTler to Nightfox on Wed Jan 08 2014 06:34 pm

I could barley pay the phone bill as it was. I'm going to use call back
^^^^^^^^ verification? I don't think so. ;-0

you could 'HOP' they were using the correct information.
(in before corey)
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Re: Worldlink...
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Wed Jan 08 2014 08:07 pm

That's why I tended to only call local BBSes.. No extra phone charges that way. :)

So, how much did that lesson cost you? :)

My parents phone bill was $150 the first month I started calling - got burned by intra-LATA toll calls. One BBS was 4 miles away and Zone 3.



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Re: Worldlink...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Thu Jan 09 2014 06:51:32

That's why I tended to only call local BBSes.. No extra phone
charges that way. :)

So, how much did that lesson cost you? :)

No lesson required - I only called local BBSes, so my BBS usage affect the phone bill.

My parents phone bill was $150 the first month I started calling - got burned by intra-LATA toll calls. One BBS was 4 miles away and Zone 3.

You must have had a different phone system or billing system where you grew up. I don't know what a "zone" means in terms of a phone system. :P Where I am, it has always been area codes, and phone numbers that are considered long-distance are usually ones in other states. There were plenty of BBSes in my metro area, so I didn't have to call long-distance to use a BBS.

Nightfox

Re: Worldlink...
By: Nightfox to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Jan 09 2014 07:40 pm

That's why I tended to only call local BBSes.. No extra phone
charges that way. :)

So, how much did that lesson cost you? :)

No lesson required - I only called local BBSes, so my BBS usage affect the phone bill.

it cost me a bit because in the next city was where all the cool bbses were. then they were doing this stupid thing in my area where there's the same area code but it's long distance. so i put up my bbs and people from other cities were calling my bbs and getting charge LongD and they were pissed off.
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