Greetings.

Back in the day, I used to use GSZ for Z and X Modem transfers. I will have GSZ and it's associated files, but when I try to type in the registration number to serialize it, I get the dreaded "Missing file gregdat.$$$ needed to serialize GSZ".

Does anyone have a registerred copy of GSZ? It is abandonware now as Omen Technology no longer exists so I do not believe this would be pirating...

Anyone?

Jeff in Australia.
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Greetings.

Back in the day, I used to use GSZ for Z and X Modem transfers. I will

have

GSZ and it's associated files, but when I try to type in the registration number to serialize it, I get the dreaded "Missing file gregdat.$$$ needed to serialize GSZ".

Does anyone have a registerred copy of GSZ? It is abandonware now as Omen Technology no longer exists so I do not believe this would be pirating...

I don't have a registered GSZ, but I'm curious why you would want to use it
in this day and age? GSZ is a DOS program, and thus, it doesn't handle long filenames, etc.. What BBS software are you using? If you're using a fairly modern BBS package (Synchronet, Mystic, etc.), there are more modern options. For instance, Synchronet includes SEXYZ, which is a 32-bit application and handles long filenames.

Nightfox

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Jeff Friend to All on Mon Oct 19 2015 08:52 pm

Does anyone have a registerred copy of GSZ? It is abandonware now as Omen Technology no longer exists so I do not believe this would be pirating...

Omen Technology still existed recently and might still. It appears that omen.com isn't responding to pings or HTTP requests right now, but it may be offline temporarily. Have you heard/read somewhere that Omen Technology (Chuck Forsberg) is actually "gone"?

digital man

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Jeff Friend to All on Mon Oct 19 2015 08:52 pm

Greetings.

Back in the day, I used to use GSZ for Z and X Modem transfers. I will have GSZ and it's associated files, but when I try to type in the registration number to serialize it, I get the dreaded "Missing file gregdat.$$$ needed to serialize GSZ".

Does anyone have a registerred copy of GSZ? It is abandonware now as Omen Technology no longer exists so I do not believe this would be pirating...

Anyone?

yeah i have the registered gsz. but why would you want to use it when you could use a fossil protocol?

last i looked omen technologies still was up and had a web presence.
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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Mro to Jeff Friend on Mon Oct 19 2015 10:09 pm

yeah i have the registered gsz. but why would you want to use it when you co use a fossil protocol?

last i looked omen technologies still was up and had a web presence.

I love old software. When using Telemate now to connect to my BBS in Dosbox, it would be good to see GSZ again just for memories sake. Though I doubt it would work in Dosbox as it uses Telnet and GSZ looks for a modem handshake whis is not there under Telnet. It is more a case of to see if it would work...

Jeff

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Jeff Friend on Mon Oct 19 2015 04:03 pm

Omen Technology still existed recently and might still. It appears that omen.com isn't responding to pings or HTTP requests right now, but it may be offline temporarily. Have you heard/read somewhere that Omen Technology (Chu Forsberg) is actually "gone"?

I found the same, tried to go to the page and it times out, ping would resolve but not get a reply. Maybe the site was down temporarily. Have not tried since...

No, have not heard of Chuck or Omen being "gone" in any way.. Just that the site was not responding..

Jeff

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Nightfox to Jeff Friend on Mon Oct 19 2015 08:29 am

I don't have a registered GSZ, but I'm curious why you would want to use it in this day and age? GSZ is a DOS program, and thus, it doesn't handle long filenames, etc.. What BBS software are you using? If you're using a fairly modern BBS package (Synchronet, Mystic, etc.), there are more modern options For instance, Synchronet includes SEXYZ, which is a 32-bit application and handles long filenames.

It is more a nostalgia thing.. I used to use GSZ all the time back in the modem days. Now with Telemate and Dosbox, it would be good to see if it would work. I have doubts though because GSZ looks for a modem handshake whichh Dosbos and Telemate won't have as it uses Telnet.

And besides, I actually PAID for my Telemate back in 1992, so I want to use it :) hahaha.

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Jeff Friend to Nightfox on Fri Oct 23 2015 22:14:29

I don't have a registered GSZ, but I'm curious why you would want to
use it in this day and age? GSZ is a DOS program, and thus, it
doesn't handle long filenames, etc.. What BBS software are you using?
If you're using a fairly modern BBS package (Synchronet, Mystic,
etc.), there are more modern options For instance, Synchronet includes
SEXYZ, which is a 32-bit application and handles long filenames.

It is more a nostalgia thing.. I used to use GSZ all the time back in the modem days. Now with Telemate and Dosbox, it would be good to see if it would work. I have doubts though because GSZ looks for a modem handshake whichh Dosbos and Telemate won't have as it uses Telnet.

Yeah, I can see that being fun to do for nostalgia. That's why many of us are still into BBSing these days.. How far do you want to go for nostalgia though? I suppose you could go even farther than that, and also run a DOS-based BBS software package, on a 90s-era PC, etc.. ;) But there is modern BBS software. Synchronet, for instance, is still being developed and its latest release runs on modern versions of Windows, Linux, and a few other operating systems. And it supports internet protocols. It's basically BBSing extended into modern days. Something like GSZ doesn't work as easily, due to long filenames, and as you said, GSZ looks for a modem handshake which isn't there over telnet.

I do somewhat miss all the file transfer protocols though. I enjoy giving my users options, and in the 90s, I had set up additional transfer protocols on my BBS such as MPT/Puma, BiModem, etc.. And I used GSZ also.

And besides, I actually PAID for my Telemate back in 1992, so I want to use it :) hahaha.

hehe :) Telemate was my favorite communications program.

Nightfox

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Jeff Friend to Mro on Fri Oct 23 2015 10:09 pm

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Mro to Jeff Friend on Mon Oct 19 2015 10:09 pm

yeah i have the registered gsz. but why would you want to use it when
you co use a fossil protocol?

last i looked omen technologies still was up and had a web presence.

I love old software. When using Telemate now to connect to my BBS in
Dosbox, it would be good to see GSZ again just for memories sake. Though I doubt it would work in Dosbox as it uses Telnet and GSZ looks for a modem handshake whis is not there under Telnet. It is more a case of to see if it would work...

go try it out. if the emulation is there it might.
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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Nightfox to Jeff Friend on Fri Oct 23 2015 07:49 am

I do somewhat miss all the file transfer protocols though. I enjoy giving my users options, and in the 90s, I had set up additional transfer protocols on my BBS such as MPT/Puma, BiModem, etc.. And I used GSZ also.

Me too. I used to provide/use all of those and HS/Link! Synchronet still has some BiModem specific logic built into it and supports bi-directional file transfers (even for QWK/REP packets), but X/Y/ZMODEM (and thus SEXYZ) doesn't support bi-dir transfers, so that code is really never executed any more. :-(

digital man

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Oct 23 2015 16:10:03

I do somewhat miss all the file transfer protocols though. I enjoy
giving my users options, and in the 90s, I had set up additional
transfer protocols on my BBS such as MPT/Puma, BiModem, etc.. And I
used GSZ also.

Me too. I used to provide/use all of those and HS/Link! Synchronet still has some BiModem specific logic built into it and supports bi-directional file transfers (even for QWK/REP packets), but X/Y/ZMODEM (and thus SEXYZ) doesn't support bi-dir transfers, so that code is really never executed any more. :-(

Does that code support (and is it compatible with) the official BiModem protocol, or is it Synchronet's own bi-directional protocol implementation?

It would be cool if SyncTerm had support for bi-directional transfers (perhaps it does and I just haven't noticed).

Nightfox

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Oct 23 2015 04:36 pm

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Oct 23 2015 16:10:03

I do somewhat miss all the file transfer protocols though. I enjoy
giving my users options, and in the 90s, I had set up additional
transfer protocols on my BBS such as MPT/Puma, BiModem, etc.. And I
used GSZ also.

Me too. I used to provide/use all of those and HS/Link! Synchronet still has some BiModem specific logic built into it and supports bi-directional file transfers (even for QWK/REP packets), but X/Y/ZMODEM (and thus SEXYZ) doesn't support bi-dir transfers, so that code is really never executed any more. :-(

Does that code support (and is it compatible with) the official BiModem protocol, or is it Synchronet's own bi-directional protocol implementation?

Synchronet doesn't have any file transfer protocols built-in (other than the traditional TCP/IP protocols, e.g. ftp, http, smtp, etc.). The BiModem support was specifically for the creation of the "drop file" that BiModem (the protocol driver) required (bimodem.pth) and the parsing of its version of the DSZ.LOG. Other than that, there's nothing "BiModem" specific in Synchronet. There is a significant more amount of code for supporting bi-direction transfer protocol drivers in general (not specifically "BiModem"), but there just isn't the need or support today for it like there was in the 90s.

It would be cool if SyncTerm had support for bi-directional transfers (perhaps it does and I just haven't noticed).

Nope, SyncTERM and SEXYZ just support the old X/Y/ZMODEM protocols (uni-directional) and their derivations.

digital man

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Synchronet doesn't have any file transfer protocols built-in (other than the traditional TCP/IP protocols, e.g. ftp, http, smtp, etc.). The BiModem support was specifically for the creation of the "drop file" that BiModem (the protocol driver) required (bimodem.pth) and the parsing of its version of the DSZ.LOG. Other than that, there's nothing "BiModem" specific in Synchronet. There is a significant more amount of code for supporting bi-direction transfer protocol drivers in general (not specifically "BiModem"), but there just isn't the need or support today for it like there was in the 90s.

On a slightly related subject, can Synchronet support file transfers and mirroring based on qwk networking? Can you setup a file qwk network and then have people join your "File-Net" and, then, when people upload files it will distribute them similar to messages in a qwk based network?

Lith,

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Oct 23 2015 22:58:44

Synchronet doesn't have any file transfer protocols built-in (other than the traditional TCP/IP protocols, e.g. ftp, http, smtp, etc.). The BiModem support was specifically for the creation of the "drop file" that BiModem (the protocol driver) required (bimodem.pth) and the parsing of its version of the DSZ.LOG. Other than that, there's nothing "BiModem" specific in Synchronet. There is a significant more amount of code for supporting bi-direction transfer protocol drivers in general (not specifically "BiModem"), but there just isn't the need or support today for it like there was in the 90s.

I see. Makes sense.

Nightfox

Re: Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Lith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 24 2015 08:50 am

Synchronet doesn't have any file transfer protocols built-in (other than the traditional TCP/IP protocols, e.g. ftp, http, smtp, etc.). The BiModem support was specifically for the creation of the "drop file" that BiModem (the protocol driver) required (bimodem.pth) and the parsing of its version of the DSZ.LOG. Other than that, there's nothing "BiModem" specific in Synchronet. There is a significant more amount of code for supporting bi-direction transfer protocol drivers in general (not specifically "BiModem"), but there just isn't the need or support today for it like there was in the 90s.

On a slightly related subject, can Synchronet support file transfers and mirroring based on qwk networking? Can you setup a file qwk network and then have people join your "File-Net" and, then, when people upload files it will distribute them similar to messages in a qwk based network?

Synchronet does support file transfers via QWK network (between QWKnet hubs and nodes and vice versa): http://synchro.net/docs/networking.html#TransferringFilesThroughQWK

To have files received from a hub or node appear in a file directory, you would need a file directory setup in SCFG->File Areas with its storage path pointing to the approriate data/qnet/<qwk-id>.in directory. And then you'd have to run addfiles with auto-add to import those files (and their embedded descriptions, if they have them) into your file base. This would not allow files uploaded (e.g. by your users) into this directory to be automatically sent "upstream". That would require a separate file area which had its storage location as your data/qnet/<qwk-id>.out directory.

If you wanted something more bi-directional and automated, that might require some custom scripting, but I think it's all doable.

digital man

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Jeff Friend on Mon Oct 19 2015 04:03 pm

Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Jeff Friend to All on Mon Oct 19 2015 08:52 pm

Does anyone have a registerred copy of GSZ? It is abandonware now as Omen Technology no longer exists so I do not believe this would be pirating...

Omen Technology still existed recently and might still. It appears that omen.com isn't responding to pings or HTTP requests right now, but it may be offline temporarily. Have you heard/read somewhere that Omen Technology (Chuck Forsberg) is actually "gone"?

Unfortunately, I found out over the weekend that Chuck Fosberg (and presumably, Omen Technology) is actually gone. He died in September of this year. Here's his (rather long) obit: http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_Forsberg

If you've ever used YMODEM or ZMODEM, you've used one of Chuck's "inventions". He hasn't really done much BBS/modem related in a long time, but still, he was an important innovator to our community and in the history of computing. :-(

digital man

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Re: GSZ by Omen Technolog
By: Digital Man to Jeff Friend on

Unfortunately, I found out over the weekend that Chuck Fosberg (and presum Omen Technology) is actually gone. He died in September of this year. Here his (rather long) obit http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_Forsb

If you've ever used YMODEM or ZMODEM, you've used one of Chuck's "inventio
He hasn't really done much BBS/modem related in a long time, but still, he
an important innovator to our community and in the history of computing. :

That's very sad news!


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Re: GSZ by Omen Technology
By: Digital Man to Jeff Friend on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:41 pm

Unfortunately, I found out over the weekend that Chuck Fosberg (and presumab Omen Technology) is actually gone. He died in September of this year. Here's his (rather long) obit: http://www.anewtradition.com/obituaries/obituary/12060_Charles_Alton_Forsber

If you've ever used YMODEM or ZMODEM, you've used one of Chuck's "inventions He hasn't really done much BBS/modem related in a long time, but still, he w an important innovator to our community and in the history of computing. :-(

I read the obituary and lit a candle for Chuck Fosberg.

Sad to hear when someone who was innovative in our electronic world passes.

May he Rest In Peace.

Jeff in Australia.

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