On 3/19/2020 7:19 PM, TRACKER1 wrote to DIGITAL MAN:

You're new to Synchronet message voting I guess? :-)

Currently in thunderbird(nntp), saw the voting module though. Guessing
the vote/thumbs up are the empty messages I've been seeing in
Thunderbird now and then.

Maybe there could be a message ID that says SBBS VOTE so people do not freak out
seeing empty messages in Wildcat, Mystic or NNTP.

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Re: Re: Laptop speaker proble
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to TRACKER1 on Fri Mar 20 2020 11:15 am

On 3/19/2020 7:19 PM, TRACKER1 wrote to DIGITAL MAN:

You're new to Synchronet message voting I guess? :-)

Currently in thunderbird(nntp), saw the voting module though. Guessing the vote/thumbs up are the empty messages I've been seeing in
Thunderbird now and then.

Maybe there could be a message ID that says SBBS VOTE so people do not freak out
seeing empty messages in Wildcat, Mystic or NNTP.

They shouldn't be getting/seeing the message at all.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #10:
The name "DOVE-Net" was suggested by King Drafus (sysop of The Beast's Domain). Norco, CA WX: 61.3°F, 67.0% humidity, 5 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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On 3/21/2020 1:00 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

On 3/19/2020 7:19 PM, TRACKER1 wrote to DIGITAL MAN:

Currently in thunderbird(nntp), saw the voting module though. Guessing
the vote/thumbs up are the empty messages I've been seeing in Thunderbird now and then.

Maybe there could be a message ID that says SBBS VOTE so people do not freak
out
seeing empty messages in Wildcat, Mystic or NNTP.

They shouldn't be getting/seeing the message at all.

Many of us are getting the empty messages.
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They shouldn't be getting/seeing the message at all.

Many of us are getting the empty messages.

I think there should be a QWK setting at your hub where you can turn those
off.


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Re: Re: Laptop speaker proble
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Mar 21 2020 05:15 am

On 3/21/2020 1:00 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

On 3/19/2020 7:19 PM, TRACKER1 wrote to DIGITAL MAN:

Currently in thunderbird(nntp), saw the voting module though. Guessing
the vote/thumbs up are the empty messages I've been seeing in Thunderbird now and then.

Maybe there could be a message ID that says SBBS VOTE so people do not freak
out
seeing empty messages in Wildcat, Mystic or NNTP.

They shouldn't be getting/seeing the message at all.

Many of us are getting the empty messages.

Via NNTP? If you're getting empty messages via QWK, those probably are vote messages and that's configurable (you can turn them off) for your QWKnet account. For NTTP, there's no option to get votes or poll messages.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #90:
Synchronet/DSZ "hack" of '93: http://wiki.synchro.net/history:hack93
Norco, CA WX: 53.4°F, 94.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.16 inches rain/24hrs

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On 3/22/2020 9:44 PM, DIGITAL MAN wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:

Many of us are getting the empty messages.

Via NNTP? If you're getting empty messages via QWK, those probably are vote

messages and that's configurable (you can turn them off) for your QWKnet account. For
NTTP, there's no option to get votes or poll messages.

Finally turned it off.
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On 3/22/2020 9:44 PM, Digital Man wrote:

Via NNTP? If you're getting empty messages via QWK, those probably are vote messages and that's configurable (you can turn them off) for your QWKnet account. For NTTP, there's no option to get votes or poll messages.

Possibly a thunderbird bug... that said, would probably try to turn them
on for network accounts in nntp feed(s), as I'd like to use the features.

Also, not sure about the avatar, which is another thing I'd like to use.

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Re: Re: Laptop speaker proble
By: Tracker1 to Digital Man on Thu Mar 26 2020 05:03 am

On 3/22/2020 9:44 PM, Digital Man wrote:

Via NNTP? If you're getting empty messages via QWK, those probably are vote messages and that's configurable (you can turn them off) for your QWKnet account. For NTTP, there's no option to get votes or poll messages.

Possibly a thunderbird bug... that said, would probably try to turn them
on for network accounts in nntp feed(s), as I'd like to use the features.

That wouldn't be too hard: NNTP article headers are very extensible. One would have to update both the server (nntpservice.js) and the various clients (e.g. newslink.js) to support it and then have a good opt-in/out method.

Also, not sure about the avatar, which is another thing I'd like to use.

The avatars themselves are not sent with each message. They're looked-up by user@address of the msg sender. Received via the syncdata echo.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #18:
Sustain, listen to it. Don't hear anything. You would though were it playing. Norco, CA WX: 56.1°F, 40.0% humidity, 8 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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On 3/26/2020 12:01 PM, Digital Man wrote:

Via NNTP? If you're getting empty messages via QWK, those probably are vote messages and that's configurable (you can turn them off) for your QWKnet account. For NTTP, there's no option to get votes or poll messages.

Possibly a thunderbird bug... that said, would probably try to turn them
on for network accounts in nntp feed(s), as I'd like to use the features.

That wouldn't be too hard: NNTP article headers are very extensible. One would
have to update both the server (nntpservice.js) and the various clients (e.g. newslink.js) to support it and then have a good opt-in/out method.

Also, not sure about the avatar, which is another thing I'd like to use.

The avatars themselves are not sent with each message. They're looked-up by user@address of the msg sender. Received via the syncdata echo.

Cool, are vote tallys also in syncdata? Will need to figure out a way
to aggregate this into my front end as well... haven't dug in much yet.

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Michael J. Ryan
tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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Re: Re: Laptop speaker proble
By: Tracker1 to Digital Man on Fri Mar 27 2020 09:48 am

The avatars themselves are not sent with each message. They're looked-up by user@address of the msg sender. Received via the syncdata echo.

Cool, are vote tallys also in syncdata? Will need to figure out a way
to aggregate this into my front end as well... haven't dug in much yet.

No, votes are very different from avatars. There are 3 types of "vote" messages: ballots, polls, and poll-closures. A ballot can be a vote (e.g. an up/down-vote) in relpy to *any* message or a poll message. A poll message is a special type of message that includes meta-data specifying the visibility of the tally (e.g. not until closed, only visible by voters, etc.) and the enumerated available answers to the poll. These special messages are stored and transferred in the topical message bases (not syncdata).

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #99:
The Synchronet Wiki (wiki.synchro.net) went online in April of 2010.
Norco, CA WX: 60.7°F, 37.0% humidity, 7 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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