*** Quoting paulie420 from a message to Nightfox ***

I'd be a happy boy if there continued to be more and more ARM
architecture desktop OS softwares and distros.

Lenovo recently announced a 5G connected ARM based laptop. It'll be running Windows 10:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-flex-series/Lenovo-Flex-5 G-14Q8CX05/p/88LGF801419

Looks like it's going to be fairly pricy at about US$1500 based on this
review video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDKnWw5CEZs


I'm still surprised there isn't a stable full Windows 10 build for the Pi as of yet.

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Re: Re: Raspberry Pi 4.. 8gb
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2020 02:41 pm

I remember seeing something about Win10 on an ARM sbc. IIRC it was very barebones, set up to run an app or two and select processes.

I haven't seen Windows 10 for ARM myself. But I imagine they may get it to more of a fully working state at some point.

Nightfox

Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Jul 16 2020 09:08 am

Re: Re: Raspberry Pi 4.. 8gb
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Jul 15 2020 02:41 pm

I remember seeing something about Win10 on an ARM sbc. IIRC it was very barebones, set up to run an app or two and select processes.

I haven't seen Windows 10 for ARM myself. But I imagine they may get it to

Nightfox

From what I recall breading about it, it was a stripped down version for industrial or IoT stuff. Instead of a full desktop, it would be more of a simplified GUI and only the services needed to perform it's designated task. For example, a touch panel controlling a climate control system or an ATM machine could run off an ARM system and not need all the services neded for
a desktop system or server to function.

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Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Thu Jul 16 2020 08:52 pm

I haven't seen Windows 10 for ARM myself. But I imagine they may get
it to

From what I recall breading about it, it was a stripped down version for industrial or IoT stuff. Instead of a full desktop, it would be more of a simplified GUI and only the services needed to perform it's designated task. For example, a touch panel controlling a climate control system or an ATM machine could run off an ARM system and not need all the services neded for a desktop system or server to function.

Interesting.. I've heard about devices like Microsoft's Surface Pro X, which sounds like it's aimed at consumers and has Windows 10 for ARM with a regular desktop:
https://zd.net/393xtCW
Full URL: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-on-arm-what-you-need-to-know-before-yo u-buy-a-surface-pro-x/

Nightfox

Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri Jul 17 2020 09:40 am

Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Thu Jul 16 2020 08:52 pm

I haven't seen Windows 10 for ARM myself. But I imagine they may get
it to

From what I recall breading about it, it was a stripped down version for industrial or IoT stuff. Instead of a full desktop, it would be more of a simplified GUI and only the services needed to perform it's designated task. For example, a touch panel controlling a climate control system or an ATM machine could run off an ARM system and not need all the services neded for a desktop system or server to function.

Interesting.. I've heard about devices like Microsoft's Surface Pro X, which sounds like it's aimed at consumers and has Windows 10 for ARM with a regular desktop:
https://zd.net/393xtCW
Full URL: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-on-arm-what-you-need-to-k now-before-yo u-buy-a-surface-pro-x/

Yup, so Windows 10 on ARM is a thing: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/
In theory, Synchronet would even run (on an emulated 32-bit x86 processor, apparently) - maybe even 16-bit DOS doors!

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Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-

From what I recall breading about it, it was a stripped down version
for industrial or IoT stuff. Instead of a full desktop, it would be
more of a simplified GUI and only the services needed to perform it's designated task. For example, a touch panel controlling a climate
control system or an ATM machine could run off an ARM system and not
need all the services neded for a desktop system or server to function.

I so want a Raspberry Pi Windows 10 IoT running a stripped down GUI
with just Synchronet now. Just 'cuz.



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Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Jul 18 2020 11:35 am

Yup, so Windows 10 on ARM is a thing: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/
In theory, Synchronet would even run (on an emulated 32-bit x86 processor, apparently) - maybe even 16-bit DOS doors!

That would be interesting.

Nightfox

Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

Yup, so Windows 10 on ARM is a thing: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/
In theory, Synchronet would even run (on an emulated 32-bit x86 processor, apparently) - maybe even 16-bit DOS doors!

That would be interesting.

A hell of a lot cheaper to run a rPi than an Intel NUC, although some
of the NUCs are pretty beefy - Celeron processors, SATA connectors,
regular SIMM slots...



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Re: Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jul 19 2020 08:14 am

A hell of a lot cheaper to run a rPi than an Intel NUC, although some
of the NUCs are pretty beefy - Celeron processors, SATA connectors, regular SIMM slots...

I'm not sure about running DOS doors on a Raspberry Pi though..

I've been using my BBS machine for other stuff too (such as a Plex media server), so I'd want something that's enough for the things I'm using it for. My current BBS machine is a bit old now but still seems to be okay for what I'm using it for.

Nightfox

Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I'm not sure about running DOS doors on a Raspberry Pi though..

I haven't seen anyone run any of my local games in I don't know how
long. I've been using BBSlink's gateway for most of the games here.


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Re: Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Jul 20 2020 07:01 am

I'm not sure about running DOS doors on a Raspberry Pi though..

I haven't seen anyone run any of my local games in I don't know how
long. I've been using BBSlink's gateway for most of the games here.

Interesting.. I see some users on my BBS running some of the local games every so often.

Nightfox

On 7/16/2020 5:52 PM, Moondog wrote:

From what I recall breading about it, it was a stripped down version for industrial or IoT stuff. Instead of a full desktop, it would be more of a simplified GUI and only the services needed to perform it's designated task. For example, a touch panel controlling a climate control system or an ATM machine could run off an ARM system and not need all the services neded for
a desktop system or server to function.

There are both actually... IoT builds for embedded device development as
well as full desktop builds for ARM64 (Including RPi devices, though
wired ethernet and audio don't work).

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On 7/18/2020 11:35 AM, Digital Man wrote:

Yup, so Windows 10 on ARM is a thing: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/
In theory, Synchronet would even run (on an emulated 32-bit x86 processor, apparently) - maybe even 16-bit DOS doors!

Wonder what it would take to get a Windows ARM64 build working.
Apparently WSL2 is supposed to work, so that may be an option as well,
though would need a windows service to start the container, and iirc
would mean auto-login would be needed.

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On 7/17/2020 7:31 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I so want a Raspberry Pi Windows 10 IoT running a stripped down GUI
with just Synchronet now. Just 'cuz.

With a little work, it should be possible... no idea how well it would
work, and the SynchroNet Gui for windows may be a non-starter for an
ARM64 build.

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On 7/19/2020 5:52 PM, Nightfox wrote:

I've been using my BBS machine for other stuff too (such as a Plex media server), so I'd want something that's enough for the things I'm using it for. My current BBS machine is a bit old now but still seems to be okay for what I'm using it for.

I don't play doors, so hard to comment on this one... but can't help but
think that the dedicated multi-bbs door servers might be a better way to
go, with local messages if you're wanting to run on an RPi anyway.

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Re: Re: Windows 10 ARM
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 05 2020 05:08 pm

I don't play doors, so hard to comment on this one... but can't help but think that the dedicated multi-bbs door servers might be a better way to go, with local messages if you're wanting to run on an RPi anyway.

I'm not planning to run a BBS on a Raspberry Pi.

Nightfox