Re: Gopher
By: Mr. Cool to All on Tue Jan 19 2016 06:51 pm

but runs very smoothly on my G3 PPC running under Debian 8. I had experimented with a windows client once under wine, but could not get it to connect to anything for some reason.

There are gopher client add-ins for Firefox - look for OverbiteFF.

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Re: Gopher
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mr. Cool on Wed Jan 20 2016 05:15 am

There are gopher client add-ins for Firefox - look for OverbiteFF.

I am aware of Overbite and even have their Android client on my phone. Personally I like this client because it a 90s browser look to it. Actually I was using Netscape 4.8 for that for a while. Gopher and Lynx have made good text based clients.

- Mr. Cool

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Re: Gopher
By: Mr. Cool to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Jan 21 2016 07:30 pm

I am aware of Overbite and even have their Android client on my phone.

Gopher on a phone reminds me of what WAP was supposed to be - lean, to the point, just the info and no crap.

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Re: Gopher
By: Poindexter Fortran to Mr. Cool on Fri Jan 22 2016 06:14 am

Gopher on a phone reminds me of what WAP was supposed to be - lean, to the point, just the info and no crap.

Overbite for android is still in alpha stage if I remember correctly. However it is functional. The only thing I can't do with it is download files. It also returns to the top of the page when you flip the screen, which is a little annoying. Otherwise it works fine.

Once thing that is nice about gopher is the ability to read news stories without an unwanted popup showing up on the screen. Besides that the pages should load quicker.

- Mr. Cool

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Re: Gopher
By: Mr. Cool to All on Tue Jan 19 2016 06:51 pm

Hey Guys,

I found a cool graphical gopher client for linux not long ago in the repo. It is written in python I believe and I found it in the debian and lubuntu (or ubuntu) repo. It has a very basic look to it; it kinda reminds me of an early 90s web browser. It was a little glitchy on my IBM Thinkpad X41, but runs very smoothly on my G3 PPC running under Debian 8. I had experimented with a windows client once under wine, but could not get it to connect to anything for some reason.

- Mr. Cool

What's the name of the client?

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Re: Gopher
By: Doctor Who to Mr. Cool on Tue Jan 26 2016 12:48 am

Re: Gopher
By: Mr. Cool to All on Tue Jan 19 2016 06:51 pm

Hey Guys,

I found a cool graphical gopher client for linux not long ago in the repo It is written in python I believe and I found it in the debian and lubunt (or ubuntu) repo. It has a very basic look to it; it kinda reminds me of early 90s web browser. It was a little glitchy on my IBM Thinkpad X41, bu runs very smoothly on my G3 PPC running under Debian 8. I had experiment with a windows client once under wine, but could not get it to connect to anything for some reason.

- Mr. Cool

What's the name of the client?

Sorry I didn't realize I forgot to put the name in. :) It is called forg.

- Mr. Cool

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Hey Guys,

I found a cool graphical gopher client for linux not long ago in the repo. It is written in python I believe and I found it in the debian and lubuntu (or ubuntu) repo. It has a very basic look to it; it kinda reminds me of

an

early 90s web browser. It was a little glitchy on my IBM Thinkpad X41, but runs very smoothly on my G3 PPC running under Debian 8. I had

experimented

with a windows client once under wine, but could not get it to connect to anything for some reason.

Most older web browsers think Ie < 7, or Netscape Navigator <= 6, have Gopher support iirc.
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Re: Re: Gopher
By: tracker1 to Mr. Cool on Sat Feb 06 2016 12:06 am

Most older web browsers think Ie < 7, or Netscape Navigator <= 6, have Gophe support iirc.

I have actually used Netscape 4.8 for this purpose and it functions very well in that capacity. I was running it under wine on Ubuntu 12.04 before I upgraded my OS. Amazingly, this version on Netscape is capable of rendering webpages (not very well of course as it was released around 2002 as the last 4.X version, but it can do it).

- Mr. Cool

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Mr. Cool to tracker1 on Sat Feb 06 2016 09:03 pm

Re: Re: Gopher
By: tracker1 to Mr. Cool on Sat Feb 06 2016 12:06 am

Most older web browsers think Ie < 7, or Netscape Navigator <= 6, have Go

phe

support iirc.

I have actually used Netscape 4.8 for this purpose and it functions very wel

l

in that capacity. I was running it under wine on Ubuntu 12.04 before I upgraded my OS. Amazingly, this version on Netscape is capable of rendering webpages (not very well of course as it was released around 2002 as the last 4.X version, but it can do it).

- Mr. Cool

I have my Gopher site hosted here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Deavmi to Mr. Cool on Fri Nov 18 2016 12:57:51

I have my Gopher site hosted here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net

The Gopher protocol is still being used? I read somewhere that nobody uses it.

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around is what lead me to reading thst it's not in use anymore; then I saw this message...

-jag

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Jagossel to Deavmi on Sat Nov 19 2016 10:43 pm

Re: Re: Gopher
By: Deavmi to Mr. Cool on Fri Nov 18 2016 12:57:51

I have my Gopher site hosted here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net

The Gopher protocol is still being used? I read somewhere that nobody uses

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around is what lead me to reading thst it's not in use anymore; then I saw this message...

-jag

I am using it. :) And I have one person which reads my blog :).

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Deavmi to Jagossel on Mon Nov 21 2016 05:18 am

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around is what lead
me to reading thst it's not in use anymore; then I saw this message...

I am using it. :) And I have one person which reads my blog :).

A gopher blog - love it!

Synchronet has a gopher server, and Firefox has a plugin called OverBite that lets you browse the gophersphere.

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On 2016-11-24 08:21 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:

Re: Re: Gopher
By: Deavmi to Jagossel on Mon Nov 21 2016 05:18 am

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around is what lead
me to reading thst it's not in use anymore; then I saw this message...

I am using it. :) And I have one person which reads my blog :).

A gopher blog - love it!

Synchronet has a gopher server, and Firefox has a plugin called OverBite that lets you browse the gophersphere.

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I use Overbite. Also lynx can browse Gopher. `lynx gopher://address`

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On 2016-11-24 08:21 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:

Re: Re: Gopher
By: Deavmi to Jagossel on Mon Nov 21 2016 05:18 am

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around is what lead
me to reading thst it's not in use anymore; then I saw this message...

I am using it. :) And I have one person which reads my blog :).

A gopher blog - love it!

Synchronet has a gopher server, and Firefox has a plugin called OverBite that lets you browse the gophersphere.

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Thanks btw. :)

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... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around

Although the World Wide Web won, Gopherspace is well alive! There are some 3.5 million selectors (the equivalent of "web pages") in some 160 Gopher servers.

As others said, there are plugins which HTML-ify the Gopher protocol and allows to view Gopherspace in Firefox. There's also a Gopher Protocol Client available here: https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient

But personally, I prefer the OverbiteFF plugin for Firefox.

Here's a list of all known Gopher sites to explore gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world/

And thanks to Rob, all Synchonet BBSes are also Gopher Servers by default, so credit to Digital Man for making the tools to keep the flame alive. In a recent version Synchronet was updated to allow also downloading from Gopher Protocol!

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Papadopoulos wrote to Deavmi <=-

Although the World Wide Web won, Gopherspace is well alive! There are
some 3.5 million selectors (the equivalent of "web pages") in some 160 Gopher servers.

Interesting. I have fond memories of Gopher when I first got on the Internet in 1994. The WWW was still young, and Gopher had the most useful information, so I spent a lot of time on it and found some useful resources. I'll have to take a look around and see what's on Gopher these days.


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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vk3jed to Papadopoulos on Mon Dec 12 2016 09:06 am

Although the World Wide Web won, Gopherspace is well alive! There are some 3.5 million selectors (the equivalent of "web pages") in some 160 Gopher servers.

Interesting. I have fond memories of Gopher when I first got on the Internet in 1994. The WWW was still young, and Gopher had the most useful information, so I spent a lot of time on it and found some useful
resources. I'll have to take a look around and see what's on Gopher these days.

i didnt really have fond memories. it was a pain in the ass to use.
but still, i used it out of necessity in the 90s.
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On 2016-12-11 04:56 PM, Papadopoulos wrote:

... Ok, I was curious to see if Gopher was still around

Although the World Wide Web won, Gopherspace is well alive! There are some 3.5
million selectors (the equivalent of "web pages") in some 160 Gopher servers.

As others said, there are plugins which HTML-ify the Gopher protocol and allows
to view Gopherspace in Firefox. There's also a Gopher Protocol Client available
here: https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient

But personally, I prefer the OverbiteFF plugin for Firefox.

Here's a list of all known Gopher sites to explore gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world/

And thanks to Rob, all Synchonet BBSes are also Gopher Servers by default, so credit to Digital Man for making the tools to keep the flame alive. In a recent
version Synchronet was updated to allow also downloading from Gopher Protocol!

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Cool.

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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

i didnt really have fond memories. it was a pain in the ass to use.
but still, i used it out of necessity in the 90s.

It was all there was. I got the hang of which servers to use and how to access information. :)


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So...anyone still using Gopher?

It still exists, despite the web. I use it at times...there are distilled-to-text feeds from news sites (eat THAT, RSS). And it still provides
decent access to old file archives...was looking for some old Amiga stuff and found it quite easily.

I wish more people would use it. Long live text!

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So...anyone still using Gopher?

I have used gopher quite a bit over the years. I don't have a gopher client installed at the moment and the plug in I used with firefox became outdated, I'll have to look into that and see if that has changed.

Gopher is a good read only protocol. As long as your not posting or uploading it'll do just fine.

It still exists, despite the web. I use it at times...there are
distilled-to-text feeds from news sites (eat THAT, RSS). And it still provide
decent access to old file archives...was looking for some old Amiga stuff and found it quite easily.

Sometimes I go looking for old files that I have missed or deleted I have a hard time finding on the web today. FTP searches were always good and they seem
to be hard to find now too. I'll have to check some gopher sites and see what I can find.

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Chicken Head wrote to All <=-

So...anyone still using Gopher?

Yup, have had an active gopher hole since 2008.

gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/sparcipx/


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Re: Gopher
By: Alan Ianson to Chicken Head on Fri Sep 06 2019 05:55 pm

a hard time finding on the web today. FTP searches were always good and they seem
to be hard to find now too. I'll have to check some gopher sites and see

I miss FTP search sometimes.. It was useful, and I wish there was still a good FTP search now.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to Chicken Head on Sat Sep 07 2019 08:53 am

So...anyone still using Gopher?

Yup, have had an active gopher hole since 2008.

gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/sparcipx/

Me too. I have one over at sdf. I haven't played with it years. I have a web page there too http://heliarc.sdf.org I really like bboard over on sdf.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: HusTler to Vaclav on Sat Sep 07 2019 15:22:53

Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to Chicken Head on Sat Sep 07 2019 08:53 am

So...anyone still using Gopher?

Yup, have had an active gopher hole since 2008. gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/sparcipx/

Me too. I have one over at sdf. I haven't played with it years. I have a web page there too http://heliarc.sdf.org I really like bboard over on sdf.

How exactly do you get there from unix? The commands are sometimes comfusing.
For instance I have used the commands >help and >unix ... they disply menus of things avaiable when typed in correctly. They just need the user to fill in the [blanks] with [info] . Like the name of a file on the directory, or something someone may want from a long list of data.
Chat for free on IRC sundays! Maybe learn how to chat the teleprompters on MSN and others networks; if you know how to understand how to send commands to a computer, there are people there to talk back.
Maybe you can make a face on TV :)


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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Porosz to HusTler on Sat Sep 07 2019 20:27:54

on MSN and others networks; if you know how to understand how to send commands to a computer, there are people there to talk back.
Maybe you can make a face on TV :)

Well, I mean you probally would get to see your chat from home /if/ you watch the news. They have a lot of screens in the background, one of them is a chat (inside info only)

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HusTler wrote to Vaclav <=-

Me too. I have one over at sdf. I haven't played with it years. I
have a web page there too http://heliarc.sdf.org I really like bboard over on sdf.

I hit bboard on occasion, could never really get into it. I use com on rare occasions (mostly when I listen to anonradio). I *do* like the community as a whole.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to Chicken Head on Sat Sep 07 2019 08:53 am

Yup, have had an active gopher hole since 2008.

gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/sparcipx/

I wish there was a decent gopher client for Chrome. I'm using Overbite for Firefox, and have advertised the Gopher interface on my BBS from time to time.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to HusTler on Sun Sep 08 2019 07:41 am

I hit bboard on occasion, could never really get into it. I use com on rare occasions (mostly when I listen to anonradio). I *do* like the community as a whole.

It's nice for a change. I think it's a little archaic but good for nastalgia. Most people don't know SDF began as a BBS. Just like this one.

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vaclav <=-

I wish there was a decent gopher client for Chrome. I'm using Overbite
for Firefox, and have advertised the Gopher interface on my BBS from
time to time.

I used Overbite myself for a while, nowadays I just use the Floodgap gopher-to-http proxy out of laziness.

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HusTler wrote to Vaclav <=-

It's nice for a change. I think it's a little archaic but good for nastalgia. Most people don't know SDF began as a BBS. Just like this
one.

I'll probably give it another shake, as it's really the only place (other than the SDF Mastodon instance) to discuss issues relating to SDF.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 09 2019 06:50 pm

poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vaclav <=-

I wish there was a decent gopher client for Chrome. I'm using Overbite for Firefox, and have advertised the Gopher interface on my BBS from time to time.

I used Overbite myself for a while, nowadays I just use the Floodgap gopher-to-http proxy out of laziness.

gopher does suck in comparison to what we have now, though.
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MRO wrote to Vaclav <=-

gopher does suck in comparison to what we have now, though.

No argument here.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to MRO on Wed Sep 11 2019 08:08 pm

gopher does suck in comparison to what we have now, though.

No argument here.

It would great if there was some useful gopher sites. I can't find anything. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places??

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Re: Gopher
By: Chicken Head to All on Fri Sep 06 2019 17:30:00

So...anyone still using Gopher?

I went through a phase of using gopher and loved it. Then my free hosting
on devio.us went down for over a year. I could not afford to run my own
server so i moved my content to bitbucket pages. I designed my content to target basic links/lynx browsers. Managing my content in git feels like a natural fit. It doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult to make
a free gopher hosting service backed by an alternative VCS such as fossil.
That would be fun to make or use.

Peace,
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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Bencollver to Chicken Head on Fri Sep 13 2019 12:30 pm

natural fit. It doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult to make
a free gopher hosting service backed by an alternative VCS such as fossil. That would be fun to make or use.

SDF.org offers gopherspaces.

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Re: Gopher
By: Chicken Head to All on Fri Sep 06 2019 05:30 pm

So...anyone still using Gopher?

It can be fun to look though some of the sites. I haven't used it in a while though.

One thing I thought was cool was gopherpedia.com. You can acess wikipedia from it, but using the gopher protocol. There is also a telnet version of this, but I found this far more pleasent to use.

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Re: Gopher
By: Chad S to Chicken Head on Sun Sep 15 2019 11:12 am

Sorry for the late response....

Yes I do enjoy the Gopherpedia interface, as well as the gateway to textfiles.com (what a better way to read those old files than gopher).

Lately someone has been putting up some feeds from major websites. I've been getting slashdot stuff, theregister.co.uk and various other things. Kind of like RSS before RSS was cool, you know?

I've been tempted to float a gopher server but I worry about the security implications...well that's true for just about anything these days I guess.

It's kind of fun to revisit the old internet protocols that were largely abandoned after the web. I still can't grok IRC though...every channel I visit is full of people with zero chatter. Well, it's just like I remember back in the 90's I guess.

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Re: Re: Gopher
By: Vaclav to MRO on Wed Sep 11 2019 08:08 pm

gopher does suck in comparison to what we have now, though.

No argument here.

yeah, but I love retro. Reminds me how far we've come in such a short time. Probably why I play on project1999.com these days. Ah memories.
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Re: Re: Gopher
By: HusTler to Vaclav on Thu Sep 12 2019 03:45 pm

I remember when I was in Elementary School, our school had a library with books pertaining to the internet and computers published around 1996 (when I was born). Gopher was mentioned, but if anything I wasn't too keen on it. I did learn about virtual worlds like ActiveWorlds (then called Alphaworld) which surprisingly is still running, albeit it's as populated as the BBS scene is these days. ;/

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Re: Gopher
By: Chicken Head to All on Fri Sep 06 2019 05:30 pm

I wish more people would use it. Long live text!

Never used Gopher, but seconded. I use YAM on my Amiga - I find this forced migration to HTML emails very annoying. Just more opportunities for people to distract me and try and sell me rubbish I don't need. The internet is just a little more sane, when it's through the medium of text.

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