Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to All on Sun Nov 11 2012 07:01:23

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

I'd be interested in taking a look at it and trying to determine if it'd be within my capabilities to help out on. Forseeable life changes in the future might destroy the amount of time I'm able to put in on this but for now I've got a couple of hours each night I could probably put in a bit of time on it with, and I've been looking for something to help me brush up on C++ for awhile.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to All on Sun Nov 11 2012 07:01 am

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

I'm not a great coder, but I worked as a game tester/associate producer for a long time with EA/Sony/Nin/MS, if you need someone to playtest I may have some free time here and there. I'm not running linux for my bbs, but I can setup a vpc for the sole purpose of helping out. If that's no bueno, lemme know when you're ready for Windows testing.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Jon Justvig on Tue Nov 13 2012 09:10 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to All on Sun Nov 11 2012 07:01 am

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

isnt that the doorgame that is shareware? should be freeware in this age.

i would make it ibbs and charge yearly for a subscription to the home server instead.

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On 11-11-12, Jon Justvig said the following...

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig
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Hello!

What's it about? I've done my share of coding of bbs door games before.
I'd beinterested in hearing more about it.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to All on Tue Nov 13 2012 17:37:33

isnt that the doorgame that is shareware? should be freeware in this age.

I like how you say "the" door game that is shareware, like it's the only one. :) Although shareware BBS door games are rare these days, I believe there are still some that are shareware.

i would make it ibbs and charge yearly for a subscription to the home
server instead.

A part of me feels fundamentally opposed to recurring subscription fees to continue using software. Barring significant new versions, I think commercial software should be something that you pay for once and use it for as long as you like. I've seen some software companies moving to a software-as-a-service model, where they basically move their software onto an internet server and charge you a recurring fee to continue using it. I think that's mainly a scheme to squeeze more money out of their customers.
True services, on the other hand, are a different story - The reason you have to continually pay your internet service provider is that it costs them money to continue running their service. Subscription video games like World of Warcraft are similar because it costs them money to continue running their servers, although I still don't like the idea of paying a recurring fee for a game..

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Nov 17 2012 09:58 am

isnt that the doorgame that is shareware? should be freeware in this
age.

I like how you say "the" door game that is shareware, like it's the only one. :)

well yeah , it is pretty much the only one in this day and age.

Although shareware BBS door games are rare these days, I believe
there are still some that are shareware.

so you are talking about doormud and the other one. both are abandoned.
the other one that i cant remember the name to is an exitilus clone.

continue using software. Barring significant new versions, I think commercial software should be something that you pay for once and use it

you never heard of games people paid a monthly fee to play?

running their servers, although I still don't like the idea of paying a recurring fee for a game..

i always told the lord author that he should have made one lord server that allowed the bbs to connect to, instead of shitty interlord and lordnet.

i'm not a fan of paying for doorgames PERIOD. i think it's stupid. i did however send al lawrence a chunk of change as a donation because i like what the guy did. you could either get it for free or donate.

and when i'm talking about this gameserver idea i'm not saying per month. i would do it per year and keep it a low fee. basically a fee to cover costs of keeping the server running and for the operator to take time to keep it up and help the new idiot sysops that come and go get connected to the server.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Nov 17 2012 14:41:09

Although shareware BBS door games are rare these days, I believe
there are still some that are shareware.

so you are talking about doormud and the other one. both are abandoned.
the other one that i cant remember the name to is an exitilus clone.

There are a lot more than those - There's LORD, LORD 2, and Planets: TEOS just to name a few.

continue using software. Barring significant new versions, I think commercial software should be something that you pay for once and use it

you never heard of games people paid a monthly fee to play?

I only said I think commercial software should be something you pay for once. I didn't say I've never heard of games people pay a monthly fee to pay (I'm not sure where you got that idea from what I said). I don't particularly like the model of paying a recurring fee to continue to use software.

i'm not a fan of paying for doorgames PERIOD. i think it's stupid.

Is that because you believe door games don't have value anymore? Or perhaps that you don't play door games?

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Nov 18 2012 01:47 am

the other one that i cant remember the name to is an exitilus clone.

There are a lot more than those - There's LORD, LORD 2, and Planets: TEOS just to name a few.

they're not newer games. i GET that every doorgame doorgame from the past is pretty much shareware.

particularly like the model of paying a recurring fee to continue to use software.

that's not what i was suggesting exactly. i was suggesting a business model where they have the game that connects to a server. this server handles the load of users and allows all participants to connect like an ibbs league. operator would collect a small fee to cover server costs and support to users.

the benefits to people participating would be ease of use, active gaming for their users, and the resources would fall on the hosting server.

i am not pushing it off as a way to make money. i think all doorgames should be free and many of my doorgame dev buddies now feel the same way.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Nov 18 2012 14:30:01

There are a lot more than those - There's LORD, LORD 2, and Planets:
TEOS just to name a few.

they're not newer games. i GET that every doorgame doorgame from the past is pretty much shareware.

Ah, I see. I didn't realize you were talking only about newer door games.

particularly like the model of paying a recurring fee to continue to use software.

that's not what i was suggesting exactly. i was suggesting a business
model where they have the game that connects to a server. this server handles the load of users and allows all participants to connect like an ibbs league. operator would collect a small fee to cover server costs and

I think there was a slight miscommunication again, as I was referring to software as a service in general, not just BBS door games. :) Your idea is a good one.

i am not pushing it off as a way to make money. i think all doorgames
should be free and many of my doorgame dev buddies now feel the same way.

I'm still curious why you feel that all door games should be free? Do you feel that door games no longer have any value that would equate to monetary pricing? While I'm thankful and think it's great that most BBS door games are now freeware or donationware, I still think it's up to the author of the software to decide to sell it or give it away. I can understand why many BBS doors are free these days though - These days, there just isn't a huge market of BBS sysops & users like there used to be, so the incentive to sell BBS doors is not what it used to be.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Nov 18 2012 04:53 pm

I'm still curious why you feel that all door games should be free? Do you feel that door games no longer have any value that would equate to monetary pricing? While I'm thankful and think it's great that most BBS door games are now freeware or donationware, I still think it's up to the author of
the software to decide to sell it or give it away. I can understand why many BBS doors are free these days though - These days, there just isn't a

yeah it's their right to sell it or give it away.

honestly deep down i dont think doorgames have any value in today's age.
also another part of me feels that if someone makes something like a doorgame they should do it to better the community.

but it's their program and they can do whatever they wanna do. like i said
a few of my buddies were doorgame devs and lord igms creators and they believed strongly that all games should be free at this point.
while people like bbsfiles' doug thinks they should have a pricetag to give them worth.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Nov 18 2012 21:08:58

but it's their program and they can do whatever they wanna do. like i said
a few of my buddies were doorgame devs and lord igms creators and they believed strongly that all games should be free at this point.

Do they mean all games in general, or just BBS door games?

while people like bbsfiles' doug thinks they should have a pricetag to
give them worth.

I somewhat agree in that there is some psychology in pricing, but at the same time, price doesn't necessarily equate to worth/value. As time goes by, I keep seeing more high-quality software that do things that you previously had to pay lots of money for that are free, at least for home use. Examples are Linux, MySQL, PostgreSQL, OpenOffice/LibreOffice, and VirtualBox. Although these are available at no financial cost, I think they have a lot of worth.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Nov 18 2012 01:47 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Nov 17 2012 14:41:09

i'm not a fan of paying for doorgames PERIOD. i think it's stupid.

Is that because you believe door games don't have value anymore? Or
perhaps that you don't play door games?

Sorry to butt in, I don't like paying the same prices for door games that we paid back in the 80s. Games are getting dated and there's nothing terribly innovative that I've seen since coming back into BBS gaming. At least MUDs have newer concepts such as NPCs but that's really nothing terribly new. Maybe someone can point to a BBS Door game that I've overlooked that's still updated and has features not found in every other BBS game?

I just can't pop $25 for lord/lord2/bre/fe/fh or whatever. I'd feel better if I could make a donation, or if the author required a specific registration when the game goes over a certain# of runs/users, but before that it's pay whatever.

I think the software author should get his fair share, but if the game isn't being actively improved I don't see the point of reg fees, you're basically paying someone to give you a key for your 69 vw bug. I guess a lot of these games were sold and are no longer supported.. John Daily's games being the exception I guess.
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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Nov 18 2012 09:08 pm

a few of my buddies were doorgame devs and lord igms creators and they believed strongly that all games should be free at this point.

Do they mean all games in general, or just BBS door games?

doorgames.

while people like bbsfiles' doug thinks they should have a pricetag to give them worth.

I somewhat agree in that there is some psychology in pricing, but at the same time, price doesn't necessarily equate to worth/value. As time goes by, I keep seeing more high-quality software that do things that you previously had to pay lots of money for that are free, at least for home use. Examples are Linux, MySQL, PostgreSQL, OpenOffice/LibreOffice, and VirtualBox. Although these are available at no financial cost, I think
they have a lot of worth.

well i'm talking about bbsdoorgames, not office applications or other REAL programs :D

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Khelair wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to All on Sun Nov 11 2012 07:01:23

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

I'd be interested in taking a look at it and trying to determine if it'd be within my capabilities to help out on. Forseeable life changes
in the future might destroy the amount of time I'm able to put in on
this but for now I've got a couple of hours each night I could probably put in a bit of time on it with, and I've been looking for something to help me brush up on C++ for awhile.

Okay, Khelair, give me a couple days. What IM program do you use? I use Trillian, so I got about all of them. We can keep in touch there. Yahoo
is probably the friendliess. Add me, jonathanjustvig@yahoo.com. This is
for anybody else interested in coding door games, particularly, Legion.


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Android8675 wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to All on Sun Nov 11 2012 07:01 am

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

I'm not a great coder, but I worked as a game tester/associate producer for a long time with EA/Sony/Nin/MS, if you need someone to playtest I
may have some free time here and there. I'm not running linux for my
bbs, but I can setup a vpc for the sole purpose of helping out. If
that's no bueno, lemme know when you're ready for Windows testing.

Andy, I have source both in Linux and Windows. Whichever you prefer. I can port what's been worked on to the other OS or vise-versa. You can try it
out on my BBS (telnet://vintagebbsing.com:23) or other BBSes that carry it,
or even set it up on your own board if you wish.

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Gryphon wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game for BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

Hello!

Hi Gryphon,

What's it about? I've done my share of coding of bbs door games
before. I'd beinterested in hearing more about it.

Legion is a role-playing style BBS door game, ascii/ansi text based. The main idea is to find a prisoner named Legion and free him. Once I get the first one finished, I'll be working on a sequel.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Tue Nov 20 2012 07:27:33

terribly new. Maybe someone can point to a BBS Door game that I've overlooked that's still updated and has features not found in every other BBS game?

I believe LORD, for one, is still being updated - The latest version is 4.08, which was released in 2006.

I just can't pop $25 for lord/lord2/bre/fe/fh or whatever. I'd feel better if I could make a donation, or if the author required a specific registration when the game goes over a certain# of runs/users, but before that it's pay whatever.

I agree there - At $25, the cost of registring door games would add up quickly. I think around $5, and perhaps donationware is better for BBS doors these days.

isn't being actively improved I don't see the point of reg fees, you're basically paying someone to give you a key for your 69 vw bug. I guess a

Not sure I see the analogy there - There are people who put a lot of work into restoring old cars to new or like-new condition and then sell them for probably more than they're worth in the non-restored condition.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Legion - need coders
By: Jon Justvig to Android8675 on Fri Nov 23 2012 01:34 am

Andy, I have source both in Linux and Windows. Whichever you prefer. I
can port what's been worked on to the other OS or vise-versa. You can try it out on my BBS (telnet://vintagebbsing.com:23) or other BBSes that carry it, or even set it up on your own board if you wish.

Neato keen! I'll go check it out and set it up. Not a lot of traffic on my board at the moment but I'm always lookin for new games.
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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Fri Nov 23 2012 03:06 pm

I believe LORD, for one, is still being updated - The latest version is 4.08, which was released in 2006.

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money
they promised him.

Not sure I see the analogy there - There are people who put a lot of work into restoring old cars to new or like-new condition and then sell them for probably more than they're worth in the non-restored condition.

yeah but old cars are cool :D

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Fri Nov 23 2012 03:06 pm

I believe LORD, for one, is still being updated - The latest version is 4.08, which was released in 2006.

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

Not sure I see the analogy there - There are people who put a lot of
work into restoring old cars to new or like-new condition and then sell them for probably more than they're worth in the non-restored condition.

yeah but old cars are cool :D

Rolls Royce is my favorite car overall. :-)


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 21:19:55

I believe LORD, for one, is still being updated - The latest version is 4.08, which was released in 2006.

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

I see. That sucks. :(

yeah but old cars are cool :D

Yes, they are. :)

Nightfox

On 11-23-12, Jon Justvig said the following...

Gryphon wrote to Jon Justvig <=-

Anyone willing to help me continue to develop Legion, an RPG door game BBSes? It's in C++. I'm interested in Linux coders. Let me know.

Hello!

Hi Gryphon,

What's it about? I've done my share of coding of bbs door games before. I'd beinterested in hearing more about it.

Legion is a role-playing style BBS door game, ascii/ansi text based. The main idea is to find a prisoner named Legion and free him. Once I get
the first one finished, I'll be working on a sequel.

Cool. Like I said, I've written and released a few door games in the past, both linux and dos: Virtual Sysop III, Space Dynasty Elete. I've even
recently released a few Mystic BBS mpl doorgames: Gryphon's Greed and
Mystic Leech.

pq gryphon
88 of
bd cyberia

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Re: Re: Legion - need coders
By: Gryphon to Jon Justvig on Sat Nov 24 2012 10:26 am

Cool. Like I said, I've written and released a few door games in the past, both linux and dos: Virtual Sysop III, Space Dynasty Elete. I've even recently released a few Mystic BBS mpl doorgames: Gryphon's Greed and
Mystic Leech.

yeah your mpls are pretty nice.

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On 11-24-12, Mro said the following...

Re: Re: Legion - need coders
By: Gryphon to Jon Justvig on Sat Nov 24 2012 10:26 am

Cool. Like I said, I've written and released a few door games in the pa both linux and dos: Virtual Sysop III, Space Dynasty Elete. I've even recently released a few Mystic BBS mpl doorgames: Gryphon's Greed and Mystic Leech.

yeah your mpls are pretty nice.

Thanks.

pq gryphon
88 of
bd cyberia

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?
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Re: Re: Legion - need coders
By: Gryphon to Jon Justvig on Sat Nov 24 2012 10:26 am

Cool. Like I said, I've written and released a few door games in the
past, both linux and dos: Virtual Sysop III, Space Dynasty Elete. I've
even recently released a few Mystic BBS mpl doorgames: Gryphon's Greed and Mystic Leech.

I saw VS3, I'll pick it apart and put it up then give the rest of your doors a looksie, thanks man.

-A.
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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of
money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?
--
Andy/Android8675

Cool. Did I hear free reg code? I can sure go for that one.


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of
money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?

the reg code is right under your nose.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Android8675 on Mon Nov 26 2012 10:26 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?

the reg code is right under your nose.

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? I don't see any code posted yet that is.


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 10:05 pm

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?

the reg code is right under your nose.

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? I don't see any code posted yet that
is.

haha!

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Tue Nov 27 2012 05:15 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 10:05 pm

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?

the reg code is right under your nose.

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? I don't see any code posted yet that is.

haha!

A joke on me huh? Hardy Har Har
.


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Tue Nov 27 2012 05:46 pm

the reg code is right under your nose.

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? I don't see any code posted yet that is.

haha!

A joke on me huh? Hardy Har Har

no joke

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Tue Nov 27 2012 09:49 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Tue Nov 27 2012 05:46 pm

the reg code is right under your nose.

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? I don't see any code posted
yet that is.

haha!

A joke on me huh? Hardy Har Har

no joke

I'm sorry I'm a little slow tonight. I'm a little pre-occupied with a few personal matters at the moment.


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?
--
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you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to
send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Android8675 on Sat Dec 01 2012 09:47 am

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to
send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

well i think with v4.8 those keymakers no longer work.
there is a crack for 4.8 but i believe it's lost.


i would recommend using v4.6 anyways.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Android8675 on Sat Dec 01 2012 09:47 am

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to
send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

Hell, I am still waiting on Metro to answer an email about my key and I darned sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's days still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations are.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 03:30 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Android8675 on Sat Dec 01 2012 09:47 am

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

Hell, I am still waiting on Metro to answer an email about my key and I darn sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's da still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations are.

beat me. I have used them on lord up to 4.07

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Android8675 on Sat Dec 01 2012 09:47 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still give to "Metro"?
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you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to
send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

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Cool can i get the keymaker for Lord?


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 01:02 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Android8675 on Sat Dec 01 2012 09:47 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Android8675 to Mro on Mon Nov 26 2012 04:30 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Nov 23 2012 09:19 pm

preslar isnt working on lord anymore. metro was screwing him out of money they promised him.

So can we get the reg code under the table now, or should we still giv to "Metro"?
--
Andy/Android8675

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Cool can i get the keymaker for Lord?

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send me a email that can hold a few k.
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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Captain Obvious on Sat Dec 01 2012 02:14 pm

darn sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's da still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations

are. >

beat me. I have used them on lord up to 4.07

Apparently it doesn't work. Finally found my registration letter from Seth from 1993 <g>. I guess I could install an older version, register it and then upgrade. That might do it. Will have to try that tomorrow.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 11:10 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Captain Obvious on Sat Dec 01 2012 02:14 pm

darn sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's da still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations

are. >

beat me. I have used them on lord up to 4.07

Apparently it doesn't work. Finally found my registration letter from Seth f 1993 <g>. I guess I could install an older version, register it and then upgrade. That might do it. Will have to try that tomorrow.

the code gen I have makes working codes for 4.07

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Captain Obvious on Sat Dec 01 2012 10:31 pm

Seth f 1993 <g>. I guess I could install an older version, register it
and then upgrade. That might do it. Will have to try that tomorrow.

the code gen I have makes working codes for 4.07

I just sent you an email.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 03:30 pm

Hell, I am still waiting on Metro to answer an email about my key and I darned sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's days still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations are.

do a whois on the domain name and call them up

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Captain Obvious on Sat Dec 01 2012 02:14 pm

Hell, I am still waiting on Metro to answer an email about my key and I darn sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys from Seth's da still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations are.

beat me. I have used them on lord up to 4.07

metro gameport made preslar put in a new keyscheme and other copyright protection when some ass approached gameport wanting free registrations and he showed them all the keygens that were out there for lord.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 01:02 pm

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long to send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

Cool can i get the keymaker for Lord?

you shouldnt ask for keys or cracks to actively developed / actively sold programs here.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Corey on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:08 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Captain Obvious on Sat Dec 01 2012 02:14 pm

Hell, I am still waiting on Metro to answer an email about my key and darn sure am not going to send a check through the mail. Will keys fro Seth's da still work? I think I know where all of my old registrations are.

beat me. I have used them on lord up to 4.07

metro gameport made preslar put in a new keyscheme and other copyright protection when some ass approached gameport wanting free registrations and showed them all the keygens that were out there for lord.

but you can use one on 4.06 and upgrade,
I think.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:08 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 01:02 pm

you should still pay metro. they still own it.
err, but I did both. I got some keymakers because metro took so long t send my codes. but I am still legal thou.

Cool can i get the keymaker for Lord?

you shouldnt ask for keys or cracks to actively developed / actively sold programs here.

crack kills.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:36 am

metro gameport made preslar put in a new keyscheme and other copyright protection when some ass approached gameport wanting free registrations and showed them all the keygens that were out there for lord.

but you can use one on 4.06 and upgrade,
I think.

if you are upgrading to the 4.7 that has the added protection, no it wont work.

and there's some funny stuff with it that will make your game unregistered if you move it and other misc things.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Corey on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:12 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:36 am

metro gameport made preslar put in a new keyscheme and other copyright protection when some ass approached gameport wanting free registratio and showed them all the keygens that were out there for lord.

but you can use one on 4.06 and upgrade,
I think.

if you are upgrading to the 4.7 that has the added protection, no it wont wo

and there's some funny stuff with it that will make your game unregistered i you move it and other misc things.

wierd. never had a problum with mine after it was regged.
of course I am using my legal codes, the hack was just until I got my legal codes. I might also still have the 4.07 beta thou too.
I better download the last version.

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On 12-02-12, Mro said the following...

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:36 am

metro gameport made preslar put in a new keyscheme and other copyrigh protection when some ass approached gameport wanting free registrati and showed them all the keygens that were out there for lord.

but you can use one on 4.06 and upgrade,
I think.

if you are upgrading to the 4.7 that has the added protection, no it wont work.

and there's some funny stuff with it that will make your game
unregistered if you move it and other misc things.

Is it even worth it to upgrade from 4.7?

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 12:57:44

well i think with v4.8 those keymakers no longer work.
there is a crack for 4.8 but i believe it's lost.

i would recommend using v4.6 anyways.

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html ) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Corey on Sat Dec 01 2012 23:10:27

Apparently it doesn't work. Finally found my registration letter from Seth from 1993 <g>. I guess I could install an older version, register it and then upgrade. That might do it. Will have to try that tomorrow.

I also bought a LORD key back in the early 90s, and I think that only works up to version 4.00a. I ended up contacting Gameport when I upgraded to a new version, and they were nice enough to send me a reg key for the newer versions, since I already had a reg code.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:29 pm

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html
) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

yes there is lord 4.8 which he accidentially released to fix a dosemu issue. it's a stable release.

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Captain Obvious on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:33 pm

I also bought a LORD key back in the early 90s, and I think that only works up to version 4.00a. I ended up contacting Gameport when I upgraded to a new version, and they were nice enough to send me a reg key for the newer versions, since I already had a reg code.

your lord key should have worked up to version 4.7 unless it was blacklisted.

i have 2 sets of keys, i think i gave one to esc though.

i dont even know if they are handing out keys now. i think we've talked about this several times.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Captain Obvious on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:07 am

do a whois on the domain name and call them up

Duh. Too easy of a solution <g>. I'll be calling them tomorrow. Thanks.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 17:37:42

yes there is lord 4.8 which he accidentially released to fix a dosemu
issue. it's a stable release.

That's a big jump in the version number. Do you know where it's available? If it's a stable release, it hasn't been posted on the web page: http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 17:38:38

your lord key should have worked up to version 4.7 unless it was blacklisted.

I've never tried LORD 4.7 and don't know where to get it. The latest version I've used (or even seen available anywhere) is 4.08 beta. At any rate, I got an updated registration code that works with 4.08.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Corey to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:36 am

Re: Legion - need coders

you shouldnt ask for keys or cracks to actively developed / actively
sold programs here.

Originally I was just curious if we were honoring said registration since I guess there was some conflict about Metro kindda being jerks or something. Been a week I kindda forgot. Planning to register the moment I get some green to do it with.

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On 12-02-12, Mro said the following...

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:29 pm

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.ht ) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

yes there is lord 4.8 which he accidentially released to fix a dosemu issue. it's a stable release.

Ah, maybe that's why it fails for me. I have to check again to see what version I'm running.

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On 12-02-12, Gryphon said the following...

On 12-02-12, Mro said the following...

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:29 pm

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The hig they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lor ) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

yes there is lord 4.8 which he accidentially released to fix a dosemu issue. it's a stable release.

Ah, maybe that's why it fails for me. I have to check again to see what version I'm running.

Ok, I just checked. I'm running Lord 4.08 beta in dosemu. I can run
lordcfg and lord in local mode, but when I try to run it from one of my
nodes, it gives an error:

ERROR : 201 Range check error
Error Address: 374B:050C

I've tried both CHAIN.TXT and DOOR.SYS dropfiles.
I'm using the Linux version of Mystic 1.10.a21

Does anybody know what could be causing this? I suppose I could try an
older version and see if that works.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 02:29 pm

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html
) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

You can download what looks to be the 4.8 beta files from Presslar's site or
at least an upgrade to 4.07. It's just the executable files. http://lord.lordlegacy.com/dosemu/


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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 05:50 pm

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Captain Obvious on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:07 am

do a whois on the domain name and call them up

Duh. Too easy of a solution <g>. I'll be calling them tomorrow. Thanks.

just so you know, metro appears to be owned by a guy who works at multiservice. or maybe he is a part owner. you will get the run around but they might get you to the right person.

it's a weird situation. and you know how bbs people can be weird.

i know a guy who called them up a few years ago and got his code after paying.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 04:23 pm

yes there is lord 4.8 which he accidentially released to fix a dosemu issue. it's a stable release.

That's a big jump in the version number. Do you know where it's available?

he went from version 4.7 to 4.8
http://lord.lordlegacy.com/dosemu/

yes i know it says 4.7. it's 4.8

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 04:24 pm

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 17:38:38

your lord key should have worked up to version 4.7 unless it was blacklisted.

I've never tried LORD 4.7 and don't know where to get it. The latest version I've used (or even seen available anywhere) is 4.08 beta. At any rate, I got an updated registration code that works with 4.08.

lord 4.7 is on the official lord website. http://lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/download.php?id=1296


the metro site is just the site that sells lord.

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Re: Re: Legion - need coders
By: Gryphon to Gryphon on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:47 pm

Ok, I just checked. I'm running Lord 4.08 beta in dosemu. I can run lordcfg and lord in local mode, but when I try to run it from one of my nodes, it gives an error:

ERROR : 201 Range check error
Error Address: 374B:050C

no clue what that is. try reinstalling

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Captain Obvious to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 19:25:04

You can download what looks to be the 4.8 beta files from Presslar's site
or at least an upgrade to 4.07. It's just the executable files. http://lord.lordlegacy.com/dosemu/

The only thing there is to download on that page is a 4.07 patch.. Got that already.

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 20:19:56

he went from version 4.7 to 4.8
http://lord.lordlegacy.com/dosemu/

yes i know it says 4.7. it's 4.8

I downloaded that and checked it out. It says 4.08, not 4.8. I don't know where these 4.7 and 4.8 versions are that you speak of.

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 20:21:20

lord 4.7 is on the official lord website. http://lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/download.php?id=1296

It says it's version 4.07, not 4.7..

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Captain Obvious on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:10 pm

The only thing there is to download on that page is a 4.07 patch.. Got
that already.

i explained this already. actually i've explained this each year we've talked about this.


the dosemu patch is v4.8

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:14 pm

http://lord.lordlegacy.com/dosemu/

yes i know it says 4.7. it's 4.8

I downloaded that and checked it out. It says 4.08, not 4.8. I don't know where these 4.7 and 4.8 versions are that you speak of.

whatever, whatever.

whats the big deal

it's the last version and there are considerable changes from what i feel like calling 4.7

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:15 pm

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 20:21:20

lord 4.7 is on the official lord website. http://lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/download.php?id=1296

It says it's version 4.07, not 4.7..

you're being pretty picky dont you think

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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 22:34:55

i explained this already. actually i've explained this each year we've talked about this.

I don't remember talking to you about this before.

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 10:34 pm

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Captain Obvious on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:10 pm

The only thing there is to download on that page is a 4.07 patch.. Got that already.

i explained this already. actually i've explained this each year we've talke about this.

the dosemu patch is v4.8

and you prolly will many more.

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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 22:36:08

It says it's version 4.07, not 4.7..

you're being pretty picky dont you think

What? I'm not trying to be picky.. I'm actually a little confused because you keep referring to versions 4.7 and 4.8, but the latest version I've seen is 4.08. I have not seen 4.8 available anywhere. And while you you mention a link that you say has 4.8, it actually turns out to be 4.08.. I'm not understanding the discrepency in the versions you're talking about.

Nightfox

Hello Nightfox,

On 02 Dec 12 at 14:29, you wrote to Mro:

@h@bRe@n@b: @h@cLegion - need coders
@bBy@n@b: @h@cMro @bto @cCorey @bon @cSat Dec 01 2012 12:57:44@n

well i think with v4.8 those keymakers no longer work.
there is a crack for 4.8 but i believe it's lost.

i would recommend using v4.6 anyways.

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The
highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html ) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

There's a 4.6 version of LORD. That's what both Scinet and Agoranet use by default in the league games. Remember I had to ask you to switch to 4.6 because you were creating errors? Did you ever to that yet? :)

4.08 only made it to a beta version, with a bunch of ansi added to it. It's very buggy, and had tons of spelling mistakes.

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In a reply from Nightfox on 14:29 about Legion - need coders

well i think with v4.8 those keymakers no longer work.
there is a crack for 4.8 but i believe it's lost.

i would recommend using v4.6 anyways.

I don't think there is a 4.8 or even a 4.6 version of LORD. The highest they have listed on their web site ( http://www.gameport.com/bbs/lord.html ) is 4.07. And I've seen a 4.08 beta floating around too.

I belive there was a 4.06 version of lord (I should have runing, in my bbs), but if you want to find a copy, look on my bbs ftp side, in the bbs stuff area to door I - P, file name of LORD406.ZIP

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 19:58:32

There's a 4.6 version of LORD. That's what both Scinet and Agoranet use by default in the league games. Remember I had to ask you to switch to 4.6 because you were creating errors? Did you ever to that yet? :)

The version you had me use is 4.06. As far as I know, there is no 4.6. I did switch it (I thought you confirmed that there were no errors after I switched it).

Nightfox

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Lord Time to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 22:22:00

I belive there was a 4.06 version of lord (I should have runing, in my
bbs), but if you want to find a copy, look on my bbs ftp side, in the bbs stuff area to door I - P, file name of LORD406.ZIP

Yes, I have it. Thanks. :)

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Access Denied on Mon Dec 03 2012 07:31 am

Re: Legion - need coders
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 19:58:32

There's a 4.6 version of LORD. That's what both Scinet and Agoranet use b default in the league games. Remember I had to ask you to switch to 4.6 because you were creating errors? Did you ever to that yet? :)

The version you had me use is 4.06. As far as I know, there is no 4.6. I d switch it (I thought you confirmed that there were no errors after I switche it).

Nightfox

yeah, they are using a X.XX scheme.
last public was 4.07


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In a reply from Nightfox on 07:31 about LORD

I belive there was a 4.06 version of lord (I should have runing, in my bbs), but if you want to find a copy, look on my bbs ftp side, in the bbs stuff area to door I - P, file name of LORD406.ZIP

Yes, I have it. Thanks. :)

your welcome :)

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:29 pm

i explained this already. actually i've explained this each year we've talked about this.

I don't remember talking to you about this before.

i talk about this every year. i'm pretty sure you were part in some of those conversations.


people ask if they can register lord, someone or myself goes through the story, someone mentions cracks, etc

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Sun Dec 02 2012 07:58 pm

4.08 only made it to a beta version, with a bunch of ansi added to it. It's very buggy, and had tons of spelling mistakes.

i think you are talking about some 4.7 version. that's when he added the new ansis. then preslar said people were complaining about then and he released another 4.7 with the old lord menus. i'm not sure if he taked on a new version number or not.

he then went on to take out some of the crashing,etc issues with 4.7 and i think 4.8 (or call it 4.08 if you or anybody wants to) is pretty stable except for a few clear screen issues.

i released a 4.8 pack with an executable i hex edited [fixed display issues] and i included both the old menus and the ansi art menus so people could choose.

the 4.8 i have doesnt have spelling issues. i also think there were a few v4.8's out there because i was working with him and datastream's users were reporting lord problems.

but you have people like lordtime who distribute betas when they arent supposed to and that may be why some people have this 4.8 with spelling errors.
i'm not sure the current one on that website has those errors. it's also possible that i have a 4.8 someplace that nobody else has on my bbses and that's why i've only had a few problems.

to sum it up, it's a messy situation! :D

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Access Denied on Mon Dec 03 2012 07:31 am

There's a 4.6 version of LORD. That's what both Scinet and Agoranet use by default in the league games. Remember I had to ask you to switch to 4.6 because you were creating errors? Did you ever to that yet? :)

The version you had me use is 4.06. As far as I know, there is no 4.6. I did switch it (I thought you confirmed that there were no errors after I switched it).

despite almost everyone referring to 4.0X as 4.X,... you understand what
we mean, right?

even the author would refer to it as 4.6 on irc at times.

regardless, you know what we mean.
there arent 91 versions you missed out on.

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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Dec 03 2012 05:29 pm

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Dec 02 2012 09:29 pm

i explained this already. actually i've explained this each year we've talked about this.

I don't remember talking to you about this before.

i talk about this every year. i'm pretty sure you were part in some of those conversations.

people ask if they can register lord, someone or myself goes through the sto someone mentions cracks, etc

hey, it's a tradition.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Mro to Access Denied on Mon Dec 03 2012 17:35:56

think 4.8 (or call it 4.08 if you or anybody wants to) is pretty stable

4.08 is what the version is.. Why would you call it 4.8 or anything else? You'll just end up confusing people (particularly new sysops) by mentioning versions that don't exist.

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Dec 03 2012 17:39:42

despite almost everyone referring to 4.0X as 4.X,... you understand what
we mean, right?

No. I honestly thought at first that there was a 4.8 version. I'm confused as to why anyone would refer to 4.08 as 4.8 - the numbers are not the same..

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Corey to Mro on Mon Dec 03 2012 04:23 pm

people ask if they can register lord, someone or myself goes through the sto someone mentions cracks, etc

hey, it's a tradition.

i wish seth could buy it back. but back then metro gave him a shitton of money and he was able to buy two big buildings and put his friends on payroll for over a year.


seth robinson is a cool guy. i talk to him atleast once a year.
definatly a non-asshole and he will talk about lord. he's not one of those guys that distances him from what made him a known name back in the day

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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Dec 03 2012 17:39:42

despite almost everyone referring to 4.0X as 4.X,... you understand what
we mean, right?

I wasn't sure at first, but I do now. Although I'm still confused as to why the version numbers are commonly mistaken.

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Dec 03 2012 06:29 pm

think 4.8 (or call it 4.08 if you or anybody wants to) is pretty stable

4.08 is what the version is.. Why would you call it 4.8 or anything else? You'll just end up confusing people (particularly new sysops) by mentioning versions that don't exist.

if you say so, but that's what we've all been calling it.


i dont think anybody is confused.

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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Dec 03 2012 06:30 pm

q

despite almost everyone referring to 4.0X as 4.X,... you understand
what we mean, right?

No. I honestly thought at first that there was a 4.8 version. I'm
confused as to why anyone would refer to 4.08 as 4.8 - the numbers are not the same..

well because they adopted a weird versioning system.
which is common.

we all call it lord 4.7 and lord 4.8. i've never seen anybody confused about it thinking there were 90 some versions after 4.08

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Hello Gryphon,

On 02 Dec 12 at 19:47, you wrote to you:

Ok, I just checked. I'm running Lord 4.08 beta in dosemu. I can run lordcfg and lord in local mode, but when I try to run it from one of
my nodes, it gives an error:

ERROR : 201 Range check error
Error Address: 374B:050C

I've tried both CHAIN.TXT and DOOR.SYS dropfiles.
I'm using the Linux version of Mystic 1.10.a21

Does anybody know what could be causing this? I suppose I could try
an older version and see if that works.

Are you by chance using MIS as your telnet server? If so, it won't work for some odd reason. Most linux users are still using ddtelnetd and xinetd because of this problem with the door games.

Regards,
Nick


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Hello Nightfox,

On 03 Dec 12 at 07:31, you wrote to me:

There's a 4.6 version of LORD. That's what both Scinet and Agoranet
use by default in the league games. Remember I had to ask you to
switch to 4.6 because you were creating errors? Did you ever to
that yet? :)

The version you had me use is 4.06. As far as I know, there is no
4.6. I did switch it (I thought you confirmed that there were no
errors after I switched it).

Damnit! I fell into the trap someone else started. Yeah, I meant 4.06.

As far as the errors, I think they're good. Except the fact that you're the only system with players from before the reset. I think all you need to do to fix that is create a character in the newly reset game, though.

Anyways, yes, you are correct on the version numbers. There is no 4.09 or 4.10, or anything higher. lol

Regards,
Nick


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Hello Mro,

On 03 Dec 12 at 17:35, you wrote to me:

i think you are talking about some 4.7 version. that's when he added
the new ansis. then preslar said people were complaining about then
and he released another 4.7 with the old lord menus. i'm not sure if
he taked on a new version number or not.

I supplied him with most of the ansis. It was definitely a 4.08 beta. I have it running here. His plan was to release two versions, long before anyone ever thought about complaining, though, so I don't know where that came from.

he then went on to take out some of the crashing,etc issues with 4.7
and i think 4.8 (or call it 4.08 if you or anybody wants to) is pretty stable except for a few clear screen issues.

Yeah, that's one of the major things I remember. Lots of text overwriting text. And a lot of spelling errors that weren't in 4.06.

i released a 4.8 pack with an executable i hex edited [fixed display issues] and i included both the old menus and the ansi art menus so
people could choose.

Where'd Michael run off to these days anyways? When is the last time you talked to Brian even? Haven't seen those guys around in quite some time now.

the 4.8 i have doesnt have spelling issues. i also think there were a
few v4.8's out there because i was working with him and datastream's users were reporting lord problems.

Must've been after I stopped messing with the betas, because the 4.07s and 4.08s I have running here are terrible compared to 4.06. Also, some of the colors were changed that made some of the display annoying.

but you have people like lordtime who distribute betas when they arent supposed to and that may be why some people have this 4.8 with
spelling errors. i'm not sure the current one on that website has
those errors. it's also possible that i have a 4.8 someplace that
nobody else has on my bbses and that's why i've only had a few
problems.

Yeah that's true. That's why I just stuck with 4.06. There's really nothing major added to the two newer versions, and seems to me to be the most stable.

to sum it up, it's a messy situation! :D

Very. Too bad Michael gave up on it. I would've rather seen him say "screw Gameport" and just start releasing his own stuff. :)

Regards,
Nick


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On 12-04-12, Nicholas Boel said the following...

Hello Gryphon,

On 02 Dec 12 at 19:47, you wrote to you:

Ok, I just checked. I'm running Lord 4.08 beta in dosemu. I can run lordcfg and lord in local mode, but when I try to run it from one of my nodes, it gives an error:

ERROR : 201 Range check error
Error Address: 374B:050C

I've tried both CHAIN.TXT and DOOR.SYS dropfiles.
I'm using the Linux version of Mystic 1.10.a21

Does anybody know what could be causing this? I suppose I could try an older version and see if that works.

Are you by chance using MIS as your telnet server? If so, it won't work
for some odd reason. Most linux users are still using ddtelnetd and
xinetd because of this problem with the door games.

Nope, I'm using ddtelnetd, not MIS.



pq gryphon
88 of
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Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Dec 03 2012 07:23 pm

I wasn't sure at first, but I do now. Although I'm still confused as to
why the version numbers are commonly mistaken.

cause everyone was calling it 4.7 since it came out.

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Re: Legion - need coders
By: Nicholas Boel to Mro on Mon Dec 03 2012 06:50 pm

I supplied him with most of the ansis. It was definitely a 4.08 beta. I
have it running here. His plan was to release two versions, long before anyone ever thought about complaining, though, so I don't know where that came from.

well i was getting files directly from him and on datastream i set it up so users could fill out a bug report and i would send it to him via email.
i dont think there was a full 4.08beta with ansis, i think it was just an executable.

I'm not sure when he added those ansis you gave him. i could have sworn it was some version of 4.07. and i'm pretty sure there were a couple of fixes and changes and no version number change.

and i think 4.8 (or call it 4.08 if you or anybody wants to) is pretty stable except for a few clear screen issues.

Yeah, that's one of the major things I remember. Lots of text overwriting text. And a lot of spelling errors that weren't in 4.06.

there's also some bug in darkcloak tavern that was an exploit. some user told me about it but i cant remember what. i do know the game then would crash and pop the user out and his stats would be upped or something.

Where'd Michael run off to these days anyways? When is the last time you

last i heard he finally got his life together and got a decent job. i think you remember the situation he was living in and it was pretty crazy and he was just stuck there in a miserable situation. i dont want to go into it much since it'll be recorded forever on the internet if i post it here.

talked to Brian even? Haven't seen those guys around in quite some time
now.

bryan was on my irc server for a while but he hasnt been on in a while. he wanted to run a bbs again and he put it up but i'm not sure if it's up now. he got married and went through some job changes and he's pretty cryptic so i dont know his situation. he is very active on facebook and is into hardcore mountain biking and animal rescue with his wife.

Must've been after I stopped messing with the betas, because the 4.07s and 4.08s I have running here are terrible compared to 4.06. Also, some of the colors were changed that made some of the display annoying.

i would recommend most people run 4.06. i'm not a big lord player or doorgame player anymore but 4.08 betta is fine for me. i did make some changes to the executables to clean things up, like i said.

Yeah that's true. That's why I just stuck with 4.06. There's really nothing major added to the two newer versions, and seems to me to be the most stable.

i dont like how he regulated what weapons you could have at what level. i guess it's cause back in the day there was a guy who used to pick on everybody and i learned how to 'cheat' in lord [like he was but better]and taught him a lesson. that was back when you'd wait until 12am so you can logon and be alive.

Very. Too bad Michael gave up on it. I would've rather seen him say "screw Gameport" and just start releasing his own stuff. :)

i tried to buy lord for 3,000usd [last 3 years]. i was going to release seth's source and let preslar keep what he made. metro gameport never replied.
in the past thorox, bryan, and mike tried to buy the source and they almost had it but the mystery man behind metrogameport fired all his staff and that ended that.

i dont blame him for giving up on lord. seth had a lot of respect from the bbs community and people didnt give mike any respect [myself too at times].
more importanly metro had a deal where mike would get a small cut out of each registration and they stopped doing so when registrations peaked.

i would like an open source lord, infact i'd like something like allen usher's door toolkit where you can pretty much copy every door and use a scripting system. i tried to get into txds but it was a bit confusing and convoluted in its methods.

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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Tue Dec 04 2012 03:29:16

I wasn't sure at first, but I do now. Although I'm still confused as to why the version numbers are commonly mistaken.

cause everyone was calling it 4.7 since it came out.

Well in all the years I've had LORD, this is the first time I've ever seen anyone use such (nonexistent) version numbers for it.

Nightfox

Re: LORD
By: Nightfox to Mro on Tue Dec 04 2012 07:55 am

to why the version numbers are commonly mistaken.

cause everyone was calling it 4.7 since it came out.

Well in all the years I've had LORD, this is the first time I've ever seen anyone use such (nonexistent) version numbers for it.

well you're pretty picky. like i said even the dev called it that when he would talk about it.

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Hello Gryphon,

On 04 Dec 12 at 01:34, you wrote to me:

Are you by chance using MIS as your telnet server? If so, it won't
work for some odd reason. Most linux users are still using
ddtelnetd and xinetd because of this problem with the door games.

Nope, I'm using ddtelnetd, not MIS.

Then it's most like something configured on your end. If you can type 'dosemu' from the command prompt and end up at C:\, we'll need a snippet of your batch file and script to run dosemu.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: LORD
By: Mro to Nightfox on Tue Dec 04 2012 16:19:51

Well in all the years I've had LORD, this is the first time I've ever
seen anyone use such (nonexistent) version numbers for it.

well you're pretty picky. like i said even the dev called it that when he would talk about it.

Well as I said, this is the first time I've seen anyone refer to some software as a different version than it really is (which I find rather odd), so I didn't know that the dev called it that also.

Nightfox

On 12-05-12, Nicholas Boel said the following...

Hello Gryphon,

On 04 Dec 12 at 01:34, you wrote to me:

Are you by chance using MIS as your telnet server? If so, it won't
work for some odd reason. Most linux users are still using
ddtelnetd and xinetd because of this problem with the door games.

Nope, I'm using ddtelnetd, not MIS.

Then it's most like something configured on your end. If you can type 'dosemu' from the command prompt and end up at C:\, we'll need a snippet
of your batch file and script to run dosemu.

Regards,
Nick

Snippet? How's about my whole script?

I've tried running it with both door.sys and chain.txt. I've changed the
lord settings many times.

#!/bin/ksh

DOOR=$1
NODE=$2

export HOME=/home/bbs/doors
export BTMP=/home/bbs/temp${NODE}

#cp -f $BTMP/* /home/bbs/doors/temp${NODE} > /dev/null 2>&1

if [ -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS ]; then
unix2dos -q ${BTMP}/DOOR.SYS
chown bbs:bbs $BTMP/DOOR.SYS
chmod 666 $BTMP/DOOR.SYS
fi
if [ -f ${BTMP}/CHAIN.TXT ]; then
unix2dos -q $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT
chown bbs:bbs $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT
chmod 666 $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT
fi
if [ -f $BTMP/DOOR32.SYS ]; then
unix2dos -q ${BTMP}/DOOR32.SYS
chown bbs:bbs $BTMP/DOOR32.SYS
chmod 666 $BTMP/DOOR32.SYS
fi

case $DOOR in
LORD)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CD \DOORS\LORD" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CALL START ${NODE}" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "exitemu" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
chown bbs:bbs $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;
BRE)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CD \DOORS\BRE" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "SRDOOR -f SETUP.$NODE" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "BRE" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "exitemu" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
chown bbs:bbs $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;
PIT)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CD \DOORS\THEPIT" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "PIT /NODE=$NODE" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "exitemu" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
chown bbs:bbs $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;
PLANETS)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CD \DOORS\plan" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:\DOORS\PLAN\PLANETS.EXE /pM:\temp%NODE" >> $HOME/dodoor
echo "exitemu" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
chown bbs:bbs $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;

DOS)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;
esac
TERM=ansi

case $DOOR in
DOS) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' ;;
# LORD) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' ;;
*) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' -u virtual;;
esac

if [ -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS ]; then
rm -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS
fi
if [ -f $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT ]; then
rm -f $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT
fi
if [ -f $HOME/dodoor.bat ]; then
rm $HOME/dodoor.bat
fi

#####
And my autoexec.bat file too
#####
@echo off
rem autoexec.bat for DOSEMU + FreeDOS
path z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu;M:\
set HELPPATH=z:\help
set TEMP=c:\tmp
prompt $P$G
unix -s /home/bbs
lredir M: linux\fs/home/bbs
unix -s DOSEMU_VERSION
REM echo "Welcome to dosemu %DOSEMU_VERSION%!"
M:
M:\BIN\BNU\BNU.COM /L0:38400,8N1 /F
M:
CD \DOORS
DODOOR.BAT
unix -e

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Hello Gryphon,

On 04 Dec 12 at 21:02, you wrote to me:

Snippet? How's about my whole script?

Sure. That's what I meant, I just like using the word "snippet" since I don't get to use it very often. :)

I've tried running it with both door.sys and chain.txt. I've changed
the lord settings many times.

I don't know what (if any) uses chain.txt).. I believe I can get away with most games using door.sys.

#!/bin/ksh

DOOR=$1
NODE=$2

export HOME=/home/bbs/doors
export BTMP=/home/bbs/temp${NODE}

#cp -f $BTMP/* /home/bbs/doors/temp${NODE} > /dev/null 2>&1

if [ -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS ]; then
unix2dos -q ${BTMP}/DOOR.SYS

I don't believe this is necessary anymore if you use the /DOS option when running the script from the menu editor, but it's definitely not why you're having issues here.

case $DOOR in
LORD)
echo "@echo off" > $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "M:" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CD \DOORS\LORD" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "CALL START ${NODE}" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
echo "exitemu" >> $HOME/dodoor.bat
chown bbs:bbs $HOME/dodoor.bat
;;

Do you have to type the entire batch file's name (ie: START.BAT) when you call it? I don't know any better, as I've always wrote out the entire filename. *shrug*

TERM=ansi

case $DOOR in
DOS) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' ;;
# LORD) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' ;;
*) /usr/bin/dosemu -I 'keystroke "\r"' -u virtual;;
esac

Here it doesn't look like you're passing any variables into dosemu. My execution of dosemu looks more like this:

/usr/bin/dosemu -u virtual -I 'keystroke "\r"' NODE=$1 DOOR=$2 BBS=1 >/dev/null

Though you probably don't need the BBS=1 (my setup was a little different from yours).

if [ -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS ]; then
rm -f $BTMP/DOOR.SYS
fi
if [ -f $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT ]; then
rm -f $BTMP/CHAIN.TXT
fi
if [ -f $HOME/dodoor.bat ]; then
rm $HOME/dodoor.bat
fi

And here, doesn't Mystic/Linux give you lowercase dropfiles?

#####
And my autoexec.bat file too
#####
@echo off
rem autoexec.bat for DOSEMU + FreeDOS
path z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu;M:\
set HELPPATH=z:\help
set TEMP=c:\tmp
prompt $P$G
unix -s /home/bbs
lredir M: linux\fs/home/bbs
unix -s DOSEMU_VERSION
REM echo "Welcome to dosemu %DOSEMU_VERSION%!"
M:
M:\BIN\BNU\BNU.COM /L0:38400,8N1 /F
M:
CD \DOORS
DODOOR.BAT
unix -e

Your autoexec.bat is definitely not the problem. Everything there looks fine.

####
If you need more, let me know.

What more is there? :)

Also, most of the above were just thoughts that went through my head at the time I looked over it. You may very well be right on those. I was just trying to locate any possibilities. Hopefully one of them caught the issue. *crosses fingers*

Regards,
Nick


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Cool can i get the keymaker for Lord?

You should not need the keymaker and you should be able to find one that already exist on the internet.

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