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    From tfurrows@VERT/KK4QBN to All on Wed Jan 11 12:05:30 2017
    Subject: The "I hate religion" thread
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    Here you go, a new thread to discuss how much you hate religion. It appears that this thread is needed here :)

    Or, perhaps you could share why you really hate religion, what is the source of your anger and frustrtaion. And perhaps the religious could just let you talk, show some understanding, instead of fretting over whether your frustration means you won't be "saved."

    I'll start: I love faith, but dislike religion. I don't hate it really, but I have my gripes. For one, I'm not particularly fond of religious people who are so entrenched in their own culture of belief that they have to step on the face of those who don't agree with every l-e-t-t-e-r of their own belief system. This goes for the adamant Christian, who erroneously believes that all but their own little piece of believers will have a great afterlife, all the way to the maniacal muslim, that believes that choppin' folks heads off will get them virgins in heaven. And please don't jump to correct me; I know that this doesn't represent all Christians nor all Muslims, but it does represent some of them.

    But I haven't really touched on the part that I "hate," which is the culture of religious practice. I mean to say, the culture that is created when a bunch of people believe and act the same way over a long period of time. The culture portion of religion has nothing to do with faith. It has nothing to do with right and wrong. It has nothing to do with truth, or even reality. It has everything to do with tradition, and I find it disgusting because I find it is exclusionary. It cuts people out and calls them damned, simply because they don't live their faith the way you live your faith. Heck, the faith bit could be 99% the same, but if the culture bit varies, you're an accursed demon.

    For me, faith has nothing to do with culture. I haven't found a religion that really understands that, but I'm looking around. I'm not looking for a new religion myself (the one I have is hard enough to deal with), but I am curious about it.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to tfurrows on Wed Jan 11 12:25:48 2017
    Subject: The "I hate religion" thread
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    Re: The "I hate religion" thread
    By: tfurrows to All on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:05 pm

    For me, faith has nothing to do with culture. I haven't found a religion that really understands that, but I'm looking around. I'm not looking for a new religion myself (the one I have is hard enough to deal with), but I am curious about it

    You can stop looking, it's not there.. Religion and Politics are so intertwined that there is no seperation. It keeps the war machine going and the rich get richer, while kids die on the battlefield, all fighting over the same God.

    Keep your Faith, you don't need a building to have a church.. This THREAD serves the same purpose. yet you're not having to throw 10% or more of your earnings at a minister who lives in a multi-million dollar home.

    Its simple, follow the 10 commandments, love God, Yourself, and Others.

    People killing people over little differences written in a book by thousands of people and the same book has had chapters and chapters ripped from it, remember what churches have done through history, and religious fanatics are still doing today.

    Keep your Faith. we all have the same God. when everything comes to light, a lot of people will be suprised. I cannot even pretend to know what, who, where, or when.. but I still keep my Faith.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to tfurrows on Thu Jan 12 08:35:00 2017
    Subject: The "I hate religion" thread
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    On 01/11/17, tfurrows said the following...
    For me, faith has nothing to do with culture. I haven't found a religion that really understands that, but I'm looking around. I'm not looking
    for a new religion myself (the one I have is hard enough to deal with), but I am curious about it.

    That is faith and religion in a nutshell. Faith is completely and utterly different from person to person. That's why you have to make up your own religion. That's why there are so many believers who pick and choose what it is that defines their faith. Notice that I didn't say they pick and choose what they believe in, because that's not how faith works.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 08:43:00 2017
    Subject: The "I hate religion" thread
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    On 01/11/17, KK4QBN said the following...

    Re: The "I hate religion" thread
    By: tfurrows to All on Wed Jan 11 2017 12:05 pm
    For me, faith has nothing to do with culture. I haven't found a relig that really understands that, but I'm looking around. I'm not looking a new religion myself (the one I have is hard enough to deal with), b am curious about it

    You can stop looking, it's not there.. Religion and Politics are so intertwined that there is no seperation. It keeps the war machine going and the rich get richer, while kids die on the battlefield, all fighting over the same God.

    Keep your Faith, you don't need a building to have a church.. This THREAD serves the same purpose. yet you're not having to throw 10% or more of your earnings at a minister who lives in a multi-million dollar home.

    Its simple, follow the 10 commandments, love God, Yourself, and Others.

    People killing people over little differences written in a book by thousands of people and the same book has had chapters and chapters
    ripped from it, remember what churches have done through history, and religious fanatics are still doing today.

    Keep your Faith. we all have the same God. when everything comes to
    light, a lot of people will be suprised. I cannot even pretend to know what, who, where, or when.. but I still keep my Faith.


    Faith creates religion. So, go ahead and keep your faith. One day, it will
    be a religion.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Gryphon on Thu Jan 12 10:22:48 2017
    Subject: The "I hate religion" thread
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    Re: The "I hate religion" thread
    By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Thu Jan 12 2017 08:43 am

    Faith creates religion. So, go ahead and keep your faith. One day, it will be a religion.

    I'm happy to know, if it ever happens, I'll be long gone before then..

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    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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