Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

give it a look
Thanks,
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I should pick it up again and watch the rest.

Nightfox

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:40 pm

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition,
etc.

I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I should pick it up again and
watch the rest.

The first few episodes are rough. But it gets better -- a lot better. It really is a great series both in acting and story, but also all the fun easter eggs about retro technology and silicon valley back in the day. In Season 2 (I think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

I was the same way. I watched the first 10 minutes where they bang in the closet or whatever and I said, this is dumb. But then I watched more and it goes into how they reverse engineered the first IBM PC BIOS to start making clones .... and it really takes off.


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** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 08:18, Zombie Mambo wrote to All:

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

I've watched most of it when someone in the echos mentioned it. I
still have the last season to finish. Not sure when I will do
that.

They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

They introduce a small bit of techonology talk, but most of it is
about the relationships and how their decisions (or indecisions)
lead to different consequences.

I liked the references to the various tech (especially the
frantic solution to recover data from the demagnetized discs),
the way the engineers realize that they can "fold over" the pcb
boards designs, the hardware talk about the latency in the games
over dialup, etc.


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

Yup, watched it (all seasons), liked it a lot.

They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!
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Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

I watched it when it was originally aired on AMC. I enjoyed it.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my firs
PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

I enjoyed watching them try to come up with the next big thing, especially
when the later seasons sort of got into the period where I first started
out in the IT workforce (early 1990's).


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, th chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my fi PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart an his wife works at TI.

give it a look
Thanks,
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While the story is a derivative of Compaq's origins, there's several nods to other innovators and quite a few red herrings and other diversions. The following seasons cover different aspects of the industry.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:40 pm

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I shoul

Nightfox

It's worth the time getting abosrbed in the characters and their dysfunctional
relationships.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Ogg to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:10 pm

Hello Zombie!

** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 08:18, Zombie Mambo wrote to All:

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

I've watched most of it when someone in the echos mentioned it. I
still have the last season to finish. Not sure when I will do
that.

They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the background the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy heart and his wife works at TI.

They introduce a small bit of techonology talk, but most of it is
about the relationships and how their decisions (or indecisions)
lead to different consequences.

I liked the references to the various tech (especially the
frantic solution to recover data from the demagnetized discs),
the way the engineers realize that they can "fold over" the pcb
boards designs, the hardware talk about the latency in the games
over dialup, etc.

The last season buttons it up well. Some of the characters realize what
they were chasing all these years after all.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

:) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies. I guess it happens with any historical movie/show in general though.. I saw Pirates of Silicon Valley when it came out in 1999, and later I was reading about what facts they got wrong in that movie. And in that one, they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had that.

Nightfox

Dumas Walker wrote to ZOMBIE MAMBO <=-

I enjoyed watching them try to come up with the next big thing,
especially when the later seasons sort of got into the period where I first started out in the IT workforce (early 1990's).

Same here, I was doing telecom and networking in the early to mid-90s, and season 4 reminded me of how new it all felt back then.

Let's lobby Neflix for a miniseries season 5, after they've all gone their
own ways and come back, like Tales of the City. Have Joe come up with a bitcoin play and get the band back together.


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Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-

It's worth the time getting abosrbed in the characters and their dysfunctional relationships.

And you do. I was surprised at how invested I was in their stories by the
last few episodes of season 4. Spoilers...




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Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

The last season buttons it up well. Some of the characters realize
what they were chasing all these years after all.

The journey was the reward. Cheesy, but true.


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Let's lobby Neflix for a miniseries season 5, after they've all gone their own ways and come back, like Tales of the City. Have Joe come up with a bitcoin play and get the band back together.

LOL that would be a logical next place for them to go.


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I like that actress, but I like Kerry Bishe (who plays Donna Clark) better.

Me also. :) Her character turned into a real b!tch as that show went on.


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 09:57 pm


Thanks Moondog, Dumas, Nightfox, digitalman for your comments, that solifies that I should continue watching!

That is, if I can fit it in between Agua Donkeys and The IT Crowd...


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jan 09 2021 10:20 am

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

:) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies.

I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *anything* technically correct in a movie or TV show! :-)

It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and as common as an HTTP URL. I think either they didn't always have technical consults reviewing the scripts or the dailies or they used different writers for different episodes maybe. That inconsistency in the accuracy was a bit weird.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Jan 10 2021 11:14 pm

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jan 09 2021 10:20 am

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. A just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

:) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies.

I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *an

It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some obscure technical det lts reviewing the scripts or the dailies or they used different writers for --
digital man

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Nitpicking can be a form of show watching in itself. For most forms of story telling, it's not about getting everything right. It's about getting enough right to set the tone and mood so the viewer feels like they're immersed without having to deal with the boring aspects of realism. Suspension of reality gets to be a little trickier in series such as HACF or Mr Robot. In
Mr Robot, they through enough technical stuff to look legit, but in other
cases mades rookie mistakes in the physical security side to allow for social engineering to work. I used to work in IT at a nuclear power facility, and
the security safeguards did not stop at the entrance. There was no such
thing as an escorted guest wandering around unescorted. Even in the
restroom.

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** On Saturday 09.01.21 - 10:20, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man:

they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to
develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and
then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so
that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the
pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had
that.

SW could probably figure out that SJ was going to keep the
majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.


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Hello Digital!

** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 23:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox:

It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some
obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than
average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and
as common as an HTTP URL.

When was the URL scene? I haven't seen the last season - is it
there?




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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Ogg to Nightfox on Thu Jan 14 2021 12:17 am

they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to
develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and
then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so
that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the
pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had
that.

SW could probably figure out that SJ was going to keep the
majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.

I'm not quite sure that's the case. I read somewhere that when SW found out SJ lied about the actual payout, their friendship wasn't quite the same after that.

Nightfox

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Ogg to Digital Man on Thu Jan 14 2021 12:29 am

Hello Digital!

** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 23:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox:

It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some
obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than
average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and
as common as an HTTP URL.

When was the URL scene? I haven't seen the last season - is it
there?

Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a party, they totally botch it.
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 2021 08:22 am

majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.

I'm not quite sure that's the case. I read somewhere that when SW found out SJ lied about the actual payout, their friendship wasn't quite the same after that.

SJ was a prick that loved to walk all over people.
but he wasnt always like that, he was a prankster and got along with people in the beginning. and like a lot of movies show, that changed overnight one day when steve jobs decided he was going to be a serious professional who is the head of a company.

so they weren't close after that.

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Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a
party, they totally botch it.

I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jan 15 2021 05:53 pm

Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a
party, they totally botch it.

I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.

I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a notepad where he has written down a web address given to him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html". This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where they get very technical details (way more detailed than a correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that there were either different writers involved at different times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input. Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-)
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Dumas Walker wrote to DIGITAL MAN <=-

I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it
is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some
of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.

URLs and other resource identifiers make nice easter eggs for fans. Mr.
Robot, if I'm not mistaken, had a couple of URLs that resolved to web sites they set up for the show, and I'm pretty sure they used a real telephone number that went to show information.

Otherwise, you've got NCISC: Cyber/Hacker show using IPs like 469.289.2.0.


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

It's great when they pull a disk out of one type of machine and then load it right up on a totally different platform. Yeah! That's how computers work alright.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Jan 10 2021 11:14 pm

I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *anything* technically correct in a movie or TV show! :-)

Feel absolutely the same way. There was a show calle Stitchers about being able to enter someone's brain and see their memories after they die. OUTSIDE of that nonsense, any computer stuff they ever showed was properly named and represented! I was totaly amazed.

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Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 16 2021 09:32 am

URLs and other resource identifiers make nice easter eggs for fans. Mr. Robot, if I'm not mistaken, had a couple of URLs that resolved to web sites they set up for the show, and I'm pretty sure they used a real telephone number that went to show information.

Simpsons did it! When the episode in which Lisa says "According to whatbadgerseat.com" aired, Fox had that doman registered showing what badgers eat. It's been gone for some time, though.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Phigan to Zombie Mambo on Sun Jan 17 2021 04:13 pm

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

It's great when they pull a disk out of one type of machine and then load it right up on a totally different platform. Yeah! That's how computers work alright.

or hand spin a drive to recover it...

Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer than the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to Phigan on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:04 pm

Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer than the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

Hey, I had one of those warmers. The 99/4a was my first computer when I was 7.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Dream Master to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:03 pm

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to Phigan on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:04 pm

Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer t the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

Hey, I had one of those warmers. The 99/4a was my first computer when I was

Dream Master

me too when i was 12... 1982.
Still have it with disk drive, periphreal expansion (with 32k mem, rs232 and disk controller card, of course), hayes 300 smartmodem, sketch pad, tape drive, and various carts... Although the PEB took a sh*t on me and I think burned everything in it...

I also have a working Vic-20, trs80 coco, coco II, and model 100 portable, and a time sinclair 1000 that seems DOA now... What fun it is to pull em out, hook em up, and make my kids play games like Parsec, Tunnels of Doom, Hunt the Wumpus, Mega Bug, and others.

You can't sit a kid in front of a Scott Adams adventure and expect them to last 2 minutes these days... sad really...

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to Dream Master on Tue Jan 19 2021 09:35 pm

me too when i was 12... 1982.
Still have it with disk drive, periphreal expansion (with 32k mem, rs232 and disk controller card, of course), hayes 300 smartmodem, sketch pad, tape drive, and various carts... Although the PEB took a sh*t on me and I think burned everything in it...

Yep, had all of that. When I had the PEB, my father got sick and tired of the fan noise that came from it, ripped it out, put a much quieter fan inside it and made the world a better place.

I also have a working Vic-20, trs80 coco, coco II, and model 100 portable, and a time sinclair 1000 that seems DOA now... What fun it is to pull em out, hook em up, and make my kids play games like Parsec, Tunnels of Doom, Hunt the Wumpus, Mega Bug, and others.

You definitely have some history there. I loved Parsec and Munchman. Tunnels of Doom was fun to play. Okay, now you're making me want to go find my emulators. :)

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me too when i was 12... 1982.

I got mine when I was 11 or 12 in 1981 or 82. :)


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Dumas Walker to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Wed Jan 20 2021 04:31 pm

I got mine when I was 11 or 12 in 1981 or 82. :)

7.5. :)

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Hello Digital!

** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
notepad where he has written down a web address given to
him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

I'm not in S4 yet, but I just finished watching an episode in S3
where they introduce a "packet sniffer" and showing it being
connected to a computer. That seemed to be a bit odd. The FBI
were investigating the leak for the anti-virus software that was
posted to the internet. But the sniffer seemed irrelevent
*after* the fact. I thought a sniffer was designed to trace/
track activity as it happens, but the upload had already
happened.

..Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon slash
slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

Looking forward to see that one, and will comment.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Dream Master to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jan 20 2021 07:45 am

You definitely have some history there. I loved Parsec and Munchman. Tunne of Doom was fun to play. Okay, now you're making me want to go find my emulators. :)

The greatest thing the 2000s gave the world was emulators in my book. Such fun. Go Get em, slugger! And be sure to play MicroSurgeon and Demon Attack!

Thanks,
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Zombie Mambo to Dream Master on Fri Jan 22 2021 07:48 am

The greatest thing the 2000s gave the world was emulators in my book. Such fun. Go Get em, slugger! And be sure to play MicroSurgeon and Demon Attack!

I think I started seeing emulators back in the late 90s - I seem to remember starting to see emulators for NES, SNES, and Sega Genesis around 1997 or 1998 or so. Maybe 1999, I don't remember for sure. But it was right around there, late 90s and early 2000s.

Since I never had a Playstation, one thing I did was to buy a couple of Playstation controllers (with analog sticks) and a couple of Playstation USB adapters so I could use them with my PC. I used those for a lot of emulators. And although I did have an actual Nintendo 64 in the 90s, I played Super Mario 64 on my PC later with an emulator - and I thought it was funny doing so with a Playstation controller.

Nightfox

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 22 2021 01:00 pm

Since I never had a Playstation, one thing I did was to buy a couple of Playstation controllers (with analog sticks) and a couple of Playstation USB adapters so I could use them with my PC. I used those for a lot of emulators. And although I did have an actual Nintendo 64 in the 90s, I played Super Mario 64 on my PC later with an emulator - and I thought it was funny doing so with a Playstation controller.

The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:55 pm

The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!

Square/Enix remade the first three Dragon Quest (Dragon Warrior) games, too. Those brought back tons of memories also. Love the Switch.

BlaZ

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Hello Digital!

** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
notepad where he has written down a web address given to
him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
"colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
said repeatedly.

That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where
they get very technical details (way more detailed than a
correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that
there were either different writers involved at different
times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input.
Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon
slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

Did any of the closeup shots show the full and proper "http://"
parts on the post-it notes? I wasn't thinking of looking for
that at the time.

The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't they
imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have been more
realistic?

Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I started
to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha. It had a
really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode.. what
exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is grounded on?
Is it simply an ISP company?

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:55 pm

The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!

That's nothing new. With the Nintendo Wii, Nintendo had their 'Virtual Console' which did the same thing. And that was back in 2006(?) when the Wii came out.

Nightfox

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Ogg to Digital Man on Sat Jan 23 2021 08:14 am

I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
notepad where he has written down a web address given to
him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
"colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
said repeatedly.

I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing / and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash) and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think, no, web URLs don't use backslashes, they use forward slashes.

Nightfox

Hello Nightfox!

** On Saturday 23.01.21 - 10:09, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
"colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
relevant text parts. ...

I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

I always hear people say 3 W's.

But I warmed up to "dub dub dub". Not sure where I heard
someone use that first.

One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing / and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash) and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think, no, web URLs don't use
backslashes, they use forward slashes.

I think today's browsers don't care about \ or /. They seem to
auto-correct. Infact, most browsers don't care about "http://"
at all. But early in the game it seemed to be a problem, for
sure. Today, even when someone DOES need to mention a / to
direct a visitor to subpage, they just say "slash". That's a
fine compromise.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Ogg to Nightfox on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:31 pm

I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot
google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

I always hear people say 3 W's.
But I warmed up to "dub dub dub". Not sure where I heard
someone use that first.

It seems most of the "www" part gets omited when verbally transfering a URL. Most sites work with and without it. The problem is people will assume "www" even if you don't say it. "Go to secure.companypage.net" and they reply back "www.secure.companypage.net." "No, no www. Just secure.companypage.net".... "oh".

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Ogg to Nightfox on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:31 pm

One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing
/ and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash)
and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser
with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where
someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think,
no, web URLs don't use backslashes, they use forward slashes.

I think today's browsers don't care about \ or /. They seem to auto-correct. Infact, most browsers don't care about "http://"
at all. But early in the game it seemed to be a problem, for
sure. Today, even when someone DOES need to mention a / to
direct a visitor to subpage, they just say "slash". That's a
fine compromise.

Yeah, I hear people mention a slash for a subpage. But as far as I know, "slash" has always been synonymous with "forward slash", so it makes sense. But I still sometimes hear people say "backslash" when giving a URL with a subpage.

Nightfox

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: Ogg to Digital Man on Sat Jan 23 2021 08:14 am

Hello Digital!

** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
notepad where he has written down a web address given to
him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
"colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
said repeatedly.

That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where
they get very technical details (way more detailed than a
correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that
there were either different writers involved at different
times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input.
Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon
slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

Did any of the closeup shots show the full and proper "http://"
parts on the post-it notes? I wasn't thinking of looking for
that at the time.

The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't they
imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have been more
realistic?

Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I started
to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha. It had a
really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode.. what
exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is grounded on?
Is it simply an ISP company?

The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show it could've been done.

IIRC their was doorway was an ISP and a high speed backbone. The telcos were dropping them first in exchange for their own high speed data services.

One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

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Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first
was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show it could've been done.

I remember an email list that had a weekly email showing all of the new web sites that week. :)

One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

They always ended up missing out each of the seasons. I think the other
theme is "the journey is the reward".


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Hello Moondog!

** On Thursday 28.01.21 - 14:50, Moondog wrote to Ogg:

The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't
they imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have
been more realistic?

Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I
started to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha.
It had a really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode..
what exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is
grounded on? Is it simply an ISP company?

The reason for the post it board was to show how small the
web first was, and how fast it took off. It's done for
impact value to show it could've been done.

Yes.. but Joe was in the basement for THREE YEARS. Maintaining
the sticky-note solution that long seemed silly for a forward-
thinker like the Joe character.

I think they showed at least 4 large post it boards.

However, I could see it playing favourably into the plot if say
they lost everything in a computer crash or something within
those 3 years. But to not even start typing any of the http
addresses in a spreadsheet seemed short-sighted by the script
writers and made the Joe character not be the visionary he was
made out to be.

IIRC their was doorway was an ISP and a high speed backbone.
The telcos were dropping them first in exchange for their
own high speed data services.

Yes.. the term "ISP" was uttered for the first (and only time)
into the 2nd or 3 episode of S4.

One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way
of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

So.. what was "the idea" that Donna came up with at the end?
Internet Cafés, hotspots?


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Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Sat Jan 30 2021 07:28 am

Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first
was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show
it could've been done.

I remember an email list that had a weekly email showing all of the new web sites that week. :)

oh i didnt even have that. i got magazines and books to find the cool new websites!

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on

Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
I'm hooked.
All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition,
etc.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

The first few episodes are rough. But it gets better -- a lot better. It really is a great series both in acting and story, but also all the fun easter eggs about retro technology and silicon valley back in the day. In Season 2 (I think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

Yes. 'Halt and Catch Fire' become one of my favourite shows in my life. One thing I liked was the way the story progresses instead of being that kind of show where nothing changes throughout the seasons. Here, the plot evolves, the character evolve, everything and everybody grow. You can connect with those characters... all of them in one way or another.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Ogg to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:10 pm

I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.

Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Pferor to Ogg on Wed Feb 24 2021 05:06:59

Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because
I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns
out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me
because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known by some than the blade runner stuff...


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Hello Rampage!

** On Thursday 25.02.21 - 06:31, Rampage wrote to Pferor:

she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known
by some than the blade runner stuff...

I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I feel nostalgic
and want to revisit the Martian or try Blade Runner 2049 - and
look for familiar supporting actors.


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Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Rampage to Pferor on Thu Feb 25 2021 06:31 am

Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: Pferor to Ogg on Wed Feb 24 2021 05:06:59

Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because
I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns
out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known by some than the blade runner stuff...

I just watched 'The Martian' again a couple of days ago and was happy to see (and no recognize Cameron) in it. They also use the word "sysop" as a verb in that movie!
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Digital Man wrote to Rampage <=-

I just watched 'The Martian' again a couple of days ago and was happy
to see (and no recognize Cameron) in it. They also use the word "sysop"
as a verb in that movie!

My wife and I both bought potatoes when we went shopping separately, and my first thought was that we'd make it to Sol 549 now.

I need to watch The Martian less often.

And buy more ketchup.


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Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Feb 26 2021 06:38 am

My wife and I both bought potatoes when we went shopping separately, and my first thought was that we'd make it to Sol 549 now.

I need to watch The Martian less often.

And buy more ketchup.

And Vicodin! :-)
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