• Retro Networks

    From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to All on Sat Jun 26 19:09:37 2021
    With all the retro networks out there now, which 2 or 3 are your favorites?
    It seems that they're growing in popularity ever since TVLand came out in the 90s. I dont know if this says much about the shows being made today, most of which are now reboots from decades past, OR if the younger generation is spending more time watching amateurs on things like YouTube instead but as
    an old fert I do prefer some of the older shows.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Sun Jun 27 10:57:00 2021
    With all the retro networks out there now, which 2 or 3 are your favorites? It seems that they're growing in popularity ever since TVLand came out in the 90s. I dont know if this says much about the shows being made today, most of which are now reboots from decades past, OR if the younger generation is spending more time watching amateurs on things like YouTube instead but as
    an old fert I do prefer some of the older shows.

    It is funny that TV Land shed their retro feel a few years back (although
    they may have it back now... I have not checked). My favorites are MeTV
    and Antenna TV. MeTV has the Twilight Zone. At various times, both of
    them have aired WKRP in Cincinnati.

    We do not get RetroTV/RTN here any more. I used to enjoy watching it some.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jun 28 08:41:00 2021
    Hello Dumas;

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    It is funny that TV Land shed their retro feel a few years back
    (although they may have it back now... I have not checked).

    I haven't watched TV Land in probably a good decade since Hot in Cleveland
    was on. As you say it just doesn't seem the same. They used to cut some great promos but not anymore.

    My favorites are MeTV and Antenna TV. MeTV has the Twilight Zone. At various times, both of them have aired WKRP in Cincinnati.

    I had to settle with Antenna TV for quite a while as it was the only broadcast retro channel available and our cable (communistcast) didn't carry my favorite which is MeTV. Now MeTV is on broadcast digital, along with a few others that are decent. H&I (heros and icons) has some good stuff on it, Decades is
    pretty good too, and so is Laff especially the 2 hour sets of Home Improvement they run. Now -that- is a very funny show! A couple weekends ago Decades ran
    a police spoof marathon that they call "binge". Included were the 6 episodes
    of Police Squad (The tv spinoff from Naked Gun). That was great to watch along with Sledgehammer.

    My favorite shows on MeTV are Perry Mason and Twilight Zone! I could always binge watch Twilight Zone on Hulu but there's something about watching it on broadcast that adds that little something to ie.

    We do not get RetroTV/RTN here any more. I used to enjoy watching it some.

    Never saw that one.

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Brian Rogers on Mon Jun 28 12:40:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to All <=-

    With all the retro networks out there now, which 2 or 3 are your favorites? It seems that they're growing in popularity ever since
    TVLand came out in the 90s. I dont know if this says much about the
    shows being made today, most of which are now reboots from decades
    past, OR if the younger generation is spending more time watching
    amateurs on things like YouTube instead but as an old fert I do prefer some of the older shows.

    We have MeTV, AntennaTV, H&I & Laff that we watch the most. Older shows and cartoons though at times there are somewhat newer shows mixed in.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Mon Jun 28 16:40:00 2021
    I haven't watched TV Land in probably a good decade since Hot in Cleveland was on. As you say it just doesn't seem the same. They used to cut some great promos but not anymore.

    The first season or two of that show was a hoot!

    My favorites are MeTV and Antenna TV. MeTV has the Twilight Zone. At various times, both of them have aired WKRP in Cincinnati.

    I had to settle with Antenna TV for quite a while as it was the only broadcast
    retro channel available and our cable (communistcast) didn't carry my favorite
    which is MeTV. Now MeTV is on broadcast digital, along with a few others that are decent. H&I (heros and icons) has some good stuff on it, Decades is pretty good too, and so is Laff especially the 2 hour sets of Home Improvement
    they run. Now -that- is a very funny show! A couple weekends ago Decades ran a police spoof marathon that they call "binge". Included were the 6 episodes of Police Squad (The tv spinoff from Naked Gun). That was great to watch along
    with Sledgehammer.

    I cannot pull over-the-air broadcasts here anymore (they went digital and lowered their power at the same time), so I have to rely on what the cable company pulls in. Antenna and MeTV are what is on offer. They pull in
    some of the other subchannels that the "local to nearby cities" stations
    have available, but I don't think any of them are retro programming like
    those two.

    I did enjoy Police Squad when I got to see it. An ex-gf was big into the
    Naked Gun and Airplane movies, and Police Squad also. She is also the one
    that introduced me to The IT Crowd (a British TV comedy) and Arrested Development. Dr. Who also.

    My favorite shows on MeTV are Perry Mason and Twilight Zone! I could always binge watch Twilight Zone on Hulu but there's something about watching it on broadcast that adds that little something to ie.

    Yes. I actually have the original run of TZ on DVD but prefer to DVR and
    watch them as they air.

    We do not get RetroTV/RTN here any more. I used to enjoy watching it some.

    Never saw that one.

    IIRC, it was the original retro digital subchannel that came out before
    most all of the others. It was actually on some stations before digital... there were a couple of low-power independent stations nearby that became affiliates back 20+ years ago. The local cable company carried one from a nearby town. When that station went off the air, about the time of the
    digital conversion, that was the last time I saw RTN anywhere local.

    I can remember when one of the low-power stations in Louisville carried
    some music video network for a while (you could call a number and pay to
    make a request). I discovered that the summer that Tom Petty's "Mary
    Jane's Last Dance" was popular. :) Then, IIRC, they carried MTV-2 briefly before changing to one of the home shopping networks and then disappearing during the digital conversion.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Thumper on Tue Jun 29 05:40:00 2021
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    We have MeTV, AntennaTV, H&I & Laff that we watch the most. Older
    shows and cartoons though at times there are somewhat newer shows mixed in.

    Decades is good, I just discovered they air Dark Shadows in the early mornings. I used to watch that when it was originally out... good stuff.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Tue Jun 29 06:06:00 2021
    Hey Dumas;

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    The first season or two of that show was a hoot!

    Great cast! Betty White rules anyway... but Valerie with guest appearances
    from Jennifer Love Hewitt *drool* is what I call "must see tv" <G>

    I cannot pull over-the-air broadcasts here anymore (they went digital
    and lowered their power at the same time), so I have to rely on what
    the cable company pulls in. Antenna and MeTV are what is on offer.
    They pull in some of the other subchannels that the "local to nearby cities" stations have available, but I don't think any of them are
    retro programming like those two.

    I had to cut the cord as the boxes literally kept blowing up on me but it didn't
    matter since they didn't cover all the broadcast channels as required by law.
    I went with a firestick and occasionally watch Pluto which has a great volume of channels... many retro.

    I did enjoy Police Squad when I got to see it. An ex-gf was big into
    the Naked Gun and Airplane movies, and Police Squad also. She is also
    the one that introduced me to The IT Crowd (a British TV comedy) and Arrested Development. Dr. Who also.

    Cool, lucky man finding a girl with great humor! Was she into the stooges?
    She might have enjoyed Svengoolie :) Rubber chickens for life lol

    IIRC, it was the original retro digital subchannel that came out before most all of the others. It was actually on some stations before digital... there were a couple of low-power independent stations nearby that became affiliates back 20+ years ago. The local cable company carried one from a nearby town. When that station went off the air,
    about the time of the digital conversion, that was the last time I saw
    RTN anywhere local.

    We never had that here, it would have been nice to have seen it back in the day.

    I can remember when one of the low-power stations in Louisville carried some music video network for a while (you could call a number and pay
    to make a request). I discovered that the summer that Tom Petty's
    "Mary Jane's Last Dance" was popular. :) Then, IIRC, they carried
    MTV-2 briefly before changing to one of the home shopping networks and then disappearing during the digital conversion.

    That would have been sort of cool - a localized MTV of sorts. As a former broadcast DJ, I've always wondered how well that would work. Now local radio lacks request ability with it all computerized... except for most morning
    shows because a computer can't do traffic reports or give the current temperature.

    Now you have LPFMs (Low Power FM radio). Here they're almost all spanish and they splash all over. Our two lower power TV stations were Public Television and a Christian station that eventually went 24/7 with Dr. Gene Scott (?) Wasn't much to watch there Lol

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Tue Jun 29 15:59:00 2021
    I did enjoy Police Squad when I got to see it. An ex-gf was big into the Naked Gun and Airplane movies, and Police Squad also. She is also the one that introduced me to The IT Crowd (a British TV comedy) and Arrested Development. Dr. Who also.

    Cool, lucky man finding a girl with great humor! Was she into the stooges? She might have enjoyed Svengoolie :) Rubber chickens for life lol

    Remember, I did say "ex" so that luck didn't last long in the grand scheme
    of things. :O

    Now you have LPFMs (Low Power FM radio). Here they're almost all spanish and they splash all over. Our two lower power TV stations were Public Television and a Christian station that eventually went 24/7 with Dr. Gene Scott (?) Wasn't much to watch there Lol

    Most of ours are religious stations also. The one that played music videos
    was a part of a network. If you called the number, I assume you were
    making your request with someone wherever the network was located. Still,
    they played more videos than MTV was playing by then. :)


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jun 30 09:28:00 2021
    Hey Dumas;

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    Remember, I did say "ex" so that luck didn't last long in the grand
    scheme of things. :O

    Sometimes that's a good thing. My last ex should win an emmy for "round-the- clock drama" <G>

    Most of ours are religious stations also. The one that played music videos was a part of a network. If you called the number, I assume you were making your request with someone wherever the network was located.
    Still, they played more videos than MTV was playing by then. :)

    MTV just is not what it used to be! Back in the day when they first came on
    the air you could party up and veg out to them like Beavis and Butthead <G>
    but now it's shows for the older teens. I can't recall the last time I saw
    a music video on Music TeleVision!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Wed Jun 30 16:13:00 2021
    MTV just is not what it used to be! Back in the day when they first came on the air you could party up and veg out to them like Beavis and Butthead <G> but now it's shows for the older teens. I can't recall the last time I saw
    a music video on Music TeleVision!

    I read something in the last 5 years or so that says that their target
    audience for most programming blocks is girls in their "tweens" and young teens. IIRC, the ages were 12-15. Considering that a lot of that
    particular programming is about young teens getting pregnant, I do not
    think that is a good thing. At all.

    Of course, they blamed a lot of poor behavior on B&B, too. IMHO, they are still classics. I did not mind it originally when MTV started showing
    things other than music because most of it was music-related and
    entertaining, and at least showed some sort of artistic talent. Even B&B showed videos during their shows. They lost me once they moved to alleged "reality" television where people intentionally act as stupid as they can.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 2 00:00:00 2021
    Hello Dumas;

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    I read something in the last 5 years or so that says that their target audience for most programming blocks is girls in their "tweens" and
    young teens. IIRC, the ages were 12-15. Considering that a lot of
    that particular programming is about young teens getting pregnant, I do not think that is a good thing. At all.

    I'm with you there! You're not going to take off the young girlie shows
    though. Now that they know they're there and such.

    Of course, they blamed a lot of poor behavior on B&B, too. IMHO, they
    are still classics. I did not mind it originally when MTV started
    showing things other than music because most of it was music-related
    and entertaining, and at least showed some sort of artistic talent.
    Even B&B showed videos during their shows.

    Funny, I was never a B&B fan when it was originally out. I find them a lot funnier now. Perhaps I understand the humor a bit more than I did then, idk.

    They lost me once they
    moved to alleged "reality" television where people intentionally act as stupid as they can.

    They lost me well before that.

    BTW; If you can get Decades, I believe this weekend they're doing a Twilight Zone marathon. I used to love when SciFi did it new years!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Fri Jul 2 16:15:00 2021
    They lost me well before that.

    BTW; If you can get Decades, I believe this weekend they're doing a Twilight Zone marathon. I used to love when SciFi did it new years!

    IIRC, both SciFi and Decades (or some other channel!) did the marathon
    for New Year's 2021. Not sure why they skipped it the previous year.

    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to DUMAS WALKER on Sat Jul 3 11:48:00 2021
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    IIRC, both SciFi and Decades (or some other channel!) did the marathon
    for New Year's 2021. Not sure why they skipped it the previous year.

    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.

    Ah...Twilight Zone. We talking about the old black a white originals,
    right? I used to watch those as a teen. Time to revisit that show!




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ELF on Mon Jul 5 09:20:00 2021
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Brian Rogers <=-

    IIRC, both SciFi and Decades (or some other channel!) did the marathon for New Year's 2021. Not sure why they skipped it the previous year.

    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.

    Ah...Twilight Zone. We talking about the old black a white originals,
    right? I used to watch those as a teen. Time to revisit that show!

    Of course! :) MeTV does sometimes show some of the 1980's color episodes,
    but it is usually the original series. SyFy tends to stick to the original
    run also. I am not sure about which ones Decades shows.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 7 18:55:00 2021
    Hello Dumas;

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    IIRC, both SciFi and Decades (or some other channel!) did the marathon
    for New Year's 2021. Not sure why they skipped it the previous year.

    I recall SciFi did that every new years weekend... used to love that!

    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.

    Hopefully you do. Next weekend it's a binge of the Monkees!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BRIAN ROGERS on Thu Jul 8 17:26:00 2021
    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.

    Hopefully you do. Next weekend it's a binge of the Monkees!

    It may be a subchannel available to folks who live in one of the nearby
    towns, if they have an antenna, but it is not carried on the local cable company. MeTV, Antenna TV, TBD, Circle, and Grit (I think) are the 5 subchannel networks we currently get here. Well, and Ion, which I think
    has slipped to subchannel status now. We used to get MyNetwork, but I
    didn't see it when I looked.

    I did look for Decades over the weekend to see if I could catch some TZ
    action. :)


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 9 08:42:00 2021
    Hey Dumas;

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    I will have to see if we actually get Decades here.

    Hopefully you do. Next weekend it's a binge of the Monkees!

    It may be a subchannel available to folks who live in one of the nearby towns, if they have an antenna, but it is not carried on the local
    cable company. MeTV, Antenna TV, TBD, Circle, and Grit (I think) are
    the 5 subchannel networks we currently get here. Well, and Ion, which
    I think has slipped to subchannel status now. We used to get
    MyNetwork, but I didn't see it when I looked.

    I did look for Decades over the weekend to see if I could catch some TZ action. :)

    There's always streaming on the web. Most channels also have mobile device
    apps for streaming too.

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  • From Nightfox to Brian Rogers on Fri Jul 9 09:09:41 2021
    Re: Re: Retro Networks
    By: Brian Rogers to Dumas Walker on Fri Jul 09 2021 08:42 am

    There's always streaming on the web. Most channels also have mobile device apps for streaming too.

    There's a local TV channel in my area that did streaming on their web site, which I'd sometimes watch when they did news. But they've since discontinued their web streaming and only support mobile/TV apps for that now. I'm not sure why they did that.. I'm often at my PC and would like to be able to stream their news on my PC.

    Nightfox
  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Fri Jul 9 23:05:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

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    There's a local TV channel in my area that did streaming on their web site, which I'd sometimes watch when they did news. But they've since discontinued their web streaming and only support mobile/TV apps for
    that now. I'm not sure why they did that.. I'm often at my PC and
    would like to be able to stream their news on my PC.

    Can you somehow pull in the audio only? It's better than nothing.

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  • From Nightfox to Brian Rogers on Sat Jul 10 10:42:27 2021
    Re: Re: Retro Networks
    By: Brian Rogers to Nightfox on Fri Jul 09 2021 11:05 pm

    There's a local TV channel in my area that did streaming on their
    web site, which I'd sometimes watch when they did news. But they've
    since discontinued their web streaming and only support mobile/TV
    apps for that now. I'm not sure why they did that.. I'm often at
    my PC and would like to be able to stream their news on my PC.

    Can you somehow pull in the audio only? It's better than nothing.

    Not sure how I'd do that. If I try to play the stream in a web browser, it just says it's no longer supported and it says to use their mobile app.

    Nightfox
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sun Jul 11 11:50:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Not sure how I'd do that. If I try to play the stream in a web
    browser, it just says it's no longer supported and it says to use their mobile app.

    Sounds like a little user-agent spoofing would go a long way, to make their web server think you're hitting them with their app.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Tue Jul 13 08:11:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

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    Not sure how I'd do that. If I try to play the stream in a web
    browser, it just says it's no longer supported and it says to use their mobile app.

    I hate when they do that. The only thing I do on my web server is sense if
    the remote client is a mobile device and send them the mobile web page instead of the desktop page... but I don't block them out.

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