Modern synthetic motor oil relies heavily on Group III base oils. Historically, the United States imports nearly 44% of its Group III supply directly from three major Persian Gulf producers: Bapco in Bahrain, ADNOC in the United Arab Emirates, and Pearl GTL in Qatar.
The ongoing military entanglement with Iran and the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz have effectively choked off these crucial exports. To compound the supply chain disaster, the massive Pearl GTL facility in Qatar sustained heavy damage from Iranian airstrikes in March 2026, instantly crippling a major portion of global production for at least a year.
Sounds like someone needs to build train tracks across Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea or the Indian Ocean. No matter where this current conflict goes, it would get everyone out of Hormuz where Iran can play games.
Sounds like someone needs to build train tracks across Saudi Arabia to
the Red Sea or the Indian Ocean. No matter where this current conflict goes, it would get everyone out of Hormuz where Iran can play games.
On Mon 14-Sep-2026 4:06p, Mike Powell@1:2320/107.0 said to Rug Rat:
Sounds like someone needs to build train tracks across Saudi Arabia to the
Red Sea or the Indian Ocean. No matter where this current conflict goes,
it would get everyone out of Hormuz where Iran can play games.
Interesting idea, but more than likely Iran would just bomb the tracks like the bombed the Saudia Arabia pipline that bypassed the SOH.
Trains can not carry as much as a ship can anyway.
Hello Mike!
** On Monday 14.09.26 - 16:06, Mike Powell wrote to Rug Rat:
Sounds like someone needs to build train tracks across Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea or the Indian Ocean. No matter where this current conflict
goes, it would get everyone out of Hormuz where Iran can play games.
Train tracks would be just as easy/exposed target.
The Saudis' east-west pipeline is supposed to serve the purpose of bypassing
the Hormuz Strait. The pipeline has been bombed by Iran.
The idea would be to have multiple trains carry the oil to a port where a ship could be loaded. A pipeline would probably work also. If Iran is bombing things in their territory, sounds like they need to retaliate.
On Tue 15-Sep-2026 3:13p, Mike Powell@1:2320/107.0 said to Rug Rat:
The idea would be to have multiple trains carry the oil to a port where a
ship could be loaded. A pipeline would probably work also. If Iran is bombing things in their territory, sounds like they need to retaliate.
That would put them between a rock in the hard place with the rest of the Arab world and Opec. Remember who really started this thing. Kind of amazing that we haven't lost all our allies in the ME over this.
I know who started it this time... Netenyahoo and his American lap dog... but my understanding/recollection is that most of the rest of the Arab world does not like Iran. For one thing, Iran is not Arab and, for another, they have a 40 or so year history of causing trouble in the region.
* Forwarded from area 'CONSPRCY'dog...
On Wed 16-Sep-2026 3:24p, Mike Powell@1:2320/107.0 said to Rug Rat:
I know who started it this time... Netenyahoo and his American lap
enemy of my enemy is my friend..."but my understanding/recollection is that most of the rest of the Arab world does not like Iran. For one thing, Iran is not Arab and, for another, they have a 40 or so year history of causing trouble in the region.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter in this case if you are liked or not. "The
The Saudis' east-west pipeline is supposed to serve the purpose of
bypassing the Hormuz Strait. The pipeline has been bombed by Iran.
As I said in another message, if they are bombing things in other countries (and not just in the strait), sounds like someone should be retaliating to the point where they stop.
You are assuming the US is the "enemy" in that scenario.
Mike Powell wrote to Rug Rat <=-
Sounds like someone needs to build train tracks across Saudi Arabia to
the Red Sea or the Indian Ocean. No matter where this current conflict goes, it would get everyone out of Hormuz where Iran can play games.
Hello Mike!
** On Tuesday 15.09.26 - 15:15, you wrote:
The Saudis' east-west pipeline is supposed to serve the purpose of
bypassing the Hormuz Strait. The pipeline has been bombed by Iran.
As I said in another message, if they are bombing things in other countries (and not just in the strait), sounds like someone should be retaliating to the point where they stop.
But that just perpetuates the bombings. Each side claims that there retaliation is for the unprovoked previous attack. But then the other side
says the same thing.. and on it goes.
On Wed 16-Sep-2026 9:09p, Mike Powell@1:2320/107.0 said to Rug Rat:
You are assuming the US is the "enemy" in that scenario.
Negative. I was referring to Israel.
Not really, because if Saudia Arabia was seen to be supporting Israel it would but a lot of pressure on them from the rest of the Muslim countries in the Middle East.
So, the fact that Israel is basically the tail wagging the dog on this, it puts SA and other US Alied countries in a very precarious position. They may not like Iran, but their hands are tied because they can't look like they are support Israel.
Was just reading that gas stations are reporting they are out of Diesel.
If we have a widespread diesel shortage get ready for the prices of EVERYTHING to go. Aviation kerosene will be next, followed by gas, than heating oil.
Gonna be an interesting winter.
Mike Powell wrote to Rug Rat <=-
There has been something weird going on with diesel for several years
now. They were, once upon a time, trying to encourage the use of diesel... back when it was quite a lot cheaper than gas. Shortly thereafter, the prices shot way up. I don't think consumer demand went
up that much because diesel car sales (at least in this area) didn't
seem to go up, but those that did buy into the idea got a surprise.
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