• Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to All on Tue Jun 25 14:11:28 2024

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    Title: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    Categories: Korean, Stews
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------STOCK--------------------------------
    2 Dried shiitake mushrooms
    8 lg Dried anchovies; heads and
    -guts removed, in a soup
    -strainer or tightly wrapped
    -in a cheesecloth
    Dried kelp (5x6" sheet)
    8 c Water
    1 ts Salt

    MMMMM----------------------SEASONING PASTE---------------------------
    6 cl Garlic; minced
    1 tb Hot pepper paste
    2 tb Hot pepper flakes
    1 ts Soy sauce
    1 ts Sugar
    2 tb Water

    MMMMM----------------------------STEW---------------------------------
    1/2 lb Pork belly (or pork
    -shoulder); cut into bite
    -size pieces
    2 oz Sweet potato starch noodles;
    -soaked in water for 30
    -minutes and drained
    1 c Cabbage; cut into bite size
    -pieces
    1/2 md Onion; sliced
    2 Green onions; cut into 1"
    -pieces
    1/2 c Fermented kimchi; chopped
    4 oz Polish sausage; sliced
    4 oz Spam; sliced thinly
    1/2 pk Instant ramyeon
    1 c Radish sprouts (or spinach,
    -watercress, arugula)
    1/2 c Tofu; sliced, (optional)
    1/4 c Canned baked beans;
    -(optional)
    12 Sliced rice cakes up to 16;
    -(optional)
    1 sl American cheese (optional)

    Prepare Stock:

    Combine the water, anchovies, mushrooms, and kelp in a large pot.
    Cover and cook for 25 minutes over medium high heat. Add the pork and
    cook for another 10 minutes.

    Remove the pot from the heat. Take out the anchovies, kelp and
    mushrooms. Slice the mushrooms into bite size pieces.

    Strain the mixture of the stock and the pork into a large bowl. Put
    the pork into a small bowl. You will get about 6 cups of stock. Stir
    in the salt until dissolved.

    Make Seasoning Paste:

    Combine the seasoning paste ingredients – garlic, hot pepper paste,
    hot pepper flakes, soy sauce, sugar, and water in a bowl. Mix well.

    Arrange the ingredients in a shallow pot (10 to 12"):

    Put the cabbage, onion, green onion, pork, and the mushrooms, on the
    bottom of the pot.

    Add the kimchi, and the seasoning paste over top.

    Add the spam, sausage, rice cake, tofu, baked beans, and cheese.

    Add the ramyeon and the sweet potato starch noodles.

    Put radish sprouts on top and add 3 cups of stock.

    Cook And Serve:

    Cook over medium high heat. Korean style is to cook at the table with
    a portable burner. Friends and family will be sitting around the pot,
    talking and laughing, and maybe drinking. You can take a bit of
    cooked sausage or the meat with your chopsticks as you wait for the
    broth to boil and the noodles to soften. If you don't have a tabletop
    burner, you can cook it on the stove away from the table.

    When it starts boiling about 10 minutes later, stir and turn the
    ingredients over with tongs to cook evenly.

    Serve right after the noodles and ramyeon have softened. Transfer some
    cooked stew to individual bowls and serve. Add more stock as the broth
    boils down.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Wed Jun 26 07:38:48 2024

    Ben Collver wrote to All <=-

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    Title: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    Categories: Korean, Stews
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Whose army?

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    Title: Tin Can Casserole - AKA C-Ration Stew
    Categories: Beef, Beans, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 2 servings

    1 cn Franks & beans
    1 cn Beefsteak w/potatoes
    1 ds (generous) Tabasco
    1 cn Crumbled crackers
    1 cn Cheese spread; melted
    4 tb Green onions; coarse
    - chopped
    2 tb Butter or oil or fat
    1 sm Can of water; as needed

    The casserole can be elegant, but as most men know, women
    often use it as a camouflage for a hasty meal after a
    long bridge game. Here's a recipe to put the Old Lady's
    Bridge Casserole to shame.

    Melt butter or oil or fat and saute' onions in it. Then
    add the cheese until it is melted and well blended. Now
    add the crackers for a few minutes and then return to
    tin can or other cookmg utensil.

    Combine a can of franks & beans with the beefsteak &
    potatoes into this mixture and correct the seasoning.

    Cook for as long as necessary, seeing that the casserole
    is always thick. However, if it gets too thick, add a
    little water as a thinning agent.

    This can be served over boiled rice with an added dash
    of Tabasco just before eating.

    RECIPE FROM: The Charlie Ration Cookbook

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 26 09:07:24 2024

    Re: Re: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Wed Jun 26 2024 07:38:48

    Title: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    Categories: Korean, Stews

    Whose army?

    South Korea. Based on what i've seen on Korean TV, all able bodied
    citizens are expected to serve in the military somewhere between 1 to
    2 years. I got the impression they usually do so in their early 20's.
    I also got the impression that it was similar to conscription in
    Scandinavia, where it was more like Scouts than Boot Camp.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Thu Jun 27 05:50:00 2024

    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Re: Re: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Wed Jun 26 2024 07:38:48

    Title: Budae Jjigae (Army Base Stew)
    Categories: Korean, Stews

    Whose army?

    South Korea. Based on what i've seen on Korean TV, all able bodied citizens are expected to serve in the military somewhere between 1 to
    2 years. I got the impression they usually do so in their early 20's.
    I also got the impression that it was similar to conscription in Scandinavia, where it was more like Scouts than Boot Camp.

    Fair enuff. I don't watch much TeeVee beyond a few Formula 1 races and
    if there is severe weather in the area. Same for movies. Druther read a
    good book.

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    Title: Vegetable Pajeon (Korean Scallion Pancakes w/Vegetables)
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 3 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------PANCAKES-------------------------------
    1/2 c A-P flour
    1/2 c Potato starch (or 1/4 c (ea)
    - white rice flour and
    - cornstarch)
    3/4 ts Fine sea salt; more as
    - needed
    1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/4 c Ice water
    1 lg Egg
    1/4 c Finely chopped kimchi
    4 c Fine chopped or grated mixed
    - vegetables
    4 Scallions; in 2" long
    - sections, thin sliced
    - lengthwise
    2 tb Grapeseed or peanut oil;
    - more as needed

    MMMMM-----------------------DIPPING SAUCE----------------------------
    3 tb Soy sauce
    2 ts Rice wine vinegar; more to
    - taste
    1 ts Finely grated fresh ginger
    - or garlic (opt)
    1/2 ts Sesame oil; more to taste
    pn Granulated sugar

    PREPARE THE PANCAKES: In a large bowl, whisk together
    all-purpose flour, potato starch, salt and baking
    powder.

    In a medium bowl, combine water, egg and kimchi. Whisk
    kimchi mixture into flour mixture, and whisk until
    smooth. Fold in vegetables and about three-quarters of
    the scallions. (Save the rest for garnish.)

    In a large nonstick skillet over medium heat, heat 2
    tablespoons oil. Scoop 1/4 cup portions of batter into
    the skillet, as many as will fit while not touching,
    flatten, and fry until dark golden on the bottom, about
    2 to 3 minutes. Flip and continue to fry until other
    side is browned, 2 to 3 minutes. Transfer to a paper
    towel-lined plate and sprinkle with a little more salt.
    Continue with remaining batter.

    Before serving, make the dipping sauce: In a small bowl,
    stir together soy sauce, vinegar, ginger or garlic (if
    using), sesame oil and sugar. Sprinkle sliced scallion
    over pancakes, and serve with dipping sauce on the side.

    Recipe from: Sohui Kim

    Adapted by: Melissa Clark

    Yield: 3 to 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 27 09:51:44 2024
    Re: Re: Budae Jjigae (Army Ba
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Thu Jun 27 2024 05:50:00

    Druther read a good book.

    I also prefer books over mass media.

    What's a good book you read recently? Or one that you plan to?
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Fri Jun 28 05:50:09 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Re: Re: Budae Jjigae (Army Ba
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Thu Jun 27 2024 05:50:00

    Druther read a good book.

    I also prefer books over mass media.

    What's a good book you read recently? Or one that you plan to?

    OPERATION KINGFISHER a totally gripping and emotional WW2 historical
    fiction. The autor's name is Hilary Green and it's hard to ascertain
    from the writing if the Hilary is a male or female name. The Brits do
    use Hilary on either sex as a name.

    Since I got my Kindle I've bought only one print book. A non-fiction
    tome called "Holy Blood - Holy Grail" which is a real thought provoker.

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    Title: Hilary's Chinese Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Greens, Nuts, Pasta, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 Boned, skinned chicken
    - breasts
    1 Head of cabbage; shredded
    4 oz Pkg. Ramen noodles
    4 oz Sliced almonds
    1/4 c Sesame seeds

    MMMMM--------------------------DRESSING-------------------------------
    6 tb Sugar
    Juice from 1 lemon
    4 tb Rice wine vinegar
    1/4 c Extra virgin olive oil
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground ginger
    1/4 ts Black pepper

    Simmer the chicken breasts until done, about 45 minutes.

    Break Ramen noodles into small pieces, and mix with
    almonds and sesame seeds.

    Toast the noodles, almonds and sesame seeds on a cookie
    sheet in a 350 degree oven until golden brown. (About 10
    minutes)

    Dice the chicken and mix with the shredded cabbage.

    Mix the dressing ingredients together and shake well in a
    sealed container.

    Add the dressing and the noodle, almond and sesame
    mixture to the cabbage and chicken, just before serving.

    NOTES: Adjust the amount of cabbage as you desire for the
    amount of chicken used. Some people like less cabbage and
    more chicken.

    Cook the chicken in chicken broth for more flavor, then
    use the cooking liquid to make soup.

    You can make the dressing, toasted noodle mixture,
    chicken and cabbage in advance and toss them together at
    the last minute for a nice crisp salad.

    You could optionally add cashew nuts to the salad.

    RECIPE FROM: http://karneyfamilyrecipes.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to BEN COLLVER on Fri Jun 28 07:36:00 2024
    Quoting Ben Collver to Dave Drum <=-

    What's a good book you read recently? Or one that you plan to?

    I just started reading The way of the Hermit by Ken Smith. So far it's
    pretty good. Gives one a lot to think about as well!

    Shawn

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jun 28 11:15:28 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Shawn Highfield to BEN COLLVER on Fri Jun 28 2024 07:36:00

    I just started reading The way of the Hermit by Ken Smith. So far it's pretty good. Gives one a lot to think about as well!

    Interesting topic, extended solitude.

    I am currently reading Altai--Himalayas: A Travel Diary by Nicholas Roerich. Two friends recommended it to me, and one of them offered to give me a copy.
    I am reading the ebook version.

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.16090
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to BEN COLLVER on Sat Jun 29 07:29:00 2024
    Quoting Ben Collver to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I am currently reading Altai--Himalayas: A Travel Diary by Nicholas Roerich. Two friends recommended it to me, and one of them offered to
    give me a copy. I am reading the ebook version. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.16090

    I'll add to my list. :) I like travel diary's as a rule. I'm perfectly
    happy reading / watching someone else travel around the world, I get to experience other parts of the world without the risk.

    Shawn

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Sat Jun 29 14:04:29 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jun 28 2024 11:15 am

    Re: Books
    By: Shawn Highfield to BEN COLLVER on Fri Jun 28 2024 07:36:00

    I just started reading The way of the Hermit by Ken Smith. So far it's pretty good. Gives one a lot to think about as well!

    Interesting topic, extended solitude.

    I am currently reading Altai--Himalayas: A Travel Diary by Nicholas Roerich. Two friends recommended it to me, and one of them offered to give me a copy. I am reading the ebook version.

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.16090

    I'm rereading a sort of fantacy set that starts with 'Lion of Senet' by Jennifer Fallon. ast enjoyed when I was 'bee bopping to the Brim' on the USS Fort McHenry. Sea bream would hit the sides of the ship underway as you sailed along and my berthing was under the water line so you'd hear it at night, Kinda a comforting white noise actually.

    xxcarol

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 10:01:28 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Sat Jun 29 2024 14:04:29

    I'm rereading a sort of fantacy set that starts with 'Lion of Senet' by Jennifer Fallon. ast enjoyed when I was 'bee bopping to the Brim' on the USS Fort McHenry. Sea bream would hit the sides of the ship underway as you sailed along and my berthing was under the water line so you'd hear
    it at night, Kinda a comforting white noise actually.

    I hadn't heard of Jennifer Fallon before. The local library has one of her books in the catalog, The Lyre Thief, in ebook format only.

    I can imagine the water noise being comforting. Same deal with engine
    noise, if sufficiently continuous, distant, and quiet.

    My most recent fantasy was The Very Best of Fantasy & Science Fiction
    Sixtieth Anniversary Anthology.

    The story that stayed most prominently in my mind was The Women Men Don't
    See by James Tiptree, Jr. It was published in 1973 but pretty much makes
    the same point as the more recent "Man Or Bear" discourse on TikTok.
    I also enjoyed Solitude by Ursula K. Leguin and The Merchant And The Alchemist's Gate by Ted Chiang.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Mon Jul 1 17:48:18 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 2024 10:01 am


    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R Donaldson, Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne Rice, Jack London, Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among others like Shakesphere and Xenophon.

    Yeah, pretty different.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 2 05:47:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ben Collver <=-

    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Jun 30 2024 10:01 am


    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R
    Donaldson, Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne
    Rice, Jack London, Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among
    others like Shakesphere and Xenophon.

    Yeah, pretty different.

    What of Frank Herbert?

    Having read all of Admiral Bob's (Heinlein) output and all the Dr. Asimov
    I could track down (including the mysteries/detectice stories) as well as Arthur C. Clarke, Fred Pohl, Roger Zelzany and Ursula K. LeGuin one might
    think me stuck on space opera. But, I've also read all of the output of
    Louis Lamoour that I could find.

    My current "Hot Button" is James Lee Burke.

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    Title: The Spice Must Flow Cinnamon Chicken Roulade
    Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Herbs, Spices, Pastry
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 Pastry sheets; thawed
    3 lb Vhicken thighs; boned,
    - skinnes
    2 ts Ceylon Cinnamon
    1 tb Spice Melange; an Arrakis
    - Southwest Seasoning
    1/2 ts (ea) salt & black pepper
    1 lg Lemon; juice and zest
    1 lh Onion; halved, sliced in 1/4
    - inch pieces
    1 lg Egg
    3 tb (to 4 tb) olive oil
    2 tb Water
    1 ts Black lava salt; opt

    Set broiler or grill on high (450oF/232oC)

    In a large bowl or gallon sealable bag, place the
    chicken, spices, salt and pepper, lemon juice and lemon
    zest, olive oil and onions. Cover and marinate for a
    minimum of one hour to overnight in the fridge.

    With the broiler on "High", line a large sheet pan with
    aluminum foil. Place rack on closest level to the
    broiler.

    Spread the marinated Chicken with onions in one layer on
    the large sheet pan. Broil for 18-20 minutes, taking out
    and flipping the chicken pieces every 6 minutes.

    After chicken is cooked all the way through and has a
    little bit of char on the surface, set chicken aside and
    cool for 10-20 minutes. After removing the chicken, set
    oven temperature to 450oF/232oC.

    Once cooled, chop chicken into 1/2" pieces, placing the
    pieces and the onion in a bowl, but reserving the
    chicken drippings from the sheet pan in a liquid
    measuring cup.

    In a small bowl, mix together one egg and 2 Tablespoons
    water to make an egg wash. Sprinkle some flour on a
    sheet of parchment paper and roll out the puff pastry
    dough sheets to 1/8". Overlap the sheets by 1/2" and
    seal together with egg wash using a pastry brush or your
    finger.

    Place the chicken and onion filling lengthwise down the
    center of the two puff pastry sheets and carefully lift
    the edge of the parchment paper to start rolling the
    dough into a "snake" shape. Leave one end open (for the
    mouth,) and pinch the other end into a "tail."

    Using a sharp knife, cut 3-4 inch slits in the top of
    the roll. Using a pastry brush, brush the entire surface
    of the roll with the egg wash and top with a scattering
    of Black Lava Salt. They looks like tiny Fremen riding
    the sandworm!

    Bake the roll at 450oF/232oC for 20-25 minutes or until
    golden brown.

    Remove the roll from the oven and let cool for a few
    minutes before transferring to your serving tray.
    Garnish with Turmeric Rice and Tzatziki (separate
    recipes).

    Author: Megan Collins

    RECIPE FROM: https://pinchspicemarket.com

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    Title: Turmeric Rice "Dunes"
    Categories: Rice, Poultry, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 c Basmati rice
    3 c Chicken stock
    2 ts Ground turmeric
    1 tb Buffy's Slayer Helper;
    - (Garlic Seasoning)
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 ts salt; to taste
    1/4 c Golden raisins, currants, or
    - dried apricots; opt

    Wash rice in cool water 3 times or until water is clear.

    Set a rice cooker or medium saucepan over medium high
    heat, add rice, spices, butter or olive oil, and salt.
    Bring to a boil or set the rice cooker to cook.

    If you are using a sauce pan, once the liquid is
    boiling, reduce to a simmer and cover with a lid. Cook
    for 12 minutes

    Remove from heat. Add the dried fruit if desired, mixing
    them in, and cover with a lid letting it rest for 10
    more minutes.

    Once all the liquid is absorbed, fluff with a fork and
    serve with the Sandworm Roulade.

    Author: Megan Collins

    RECIPE FROM: https://pinchspicemarket.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 2 10:38:35 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Mon Jul 01 2024 17:48:18

    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R Donaldson, Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne Rice, Jack London, Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among others like Shakesphere and Xenophon.

    Nice! I have enjoyed all of those authors except for Jean Auel and Xenophon. It's been a while since i immerse myself like that in fantasy. I remember
    a promotion where they were giving away the first half of the first book of
    The Wheel of Time. I read that, and later checked out the rest of the series from the library. Light reading :}
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 2 18:56:20 2024
    Re: Re: Books
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 02 2024 05:47 am



    Grin, not much into Pohl, Zelazny or Herbert. No special reason and have read some of all 3's works. How about Chelsea Quinn Yarbro? (Saint Germain Vampire). Liked some of the Tarzan books but the authors rampant racism palled fast and I tossed the rest in the trash.

    Anne McAffrey (pern books) is a good read.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Tue Jul 2 19:20:37 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 02 2024 10:38 am

    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Mon Jul 01 2024 17:48:18

    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R Donaldson Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne Rice, Jack Londo Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among others like Shakesphere Xenophon.

    Nice! I have enjoyed all of those authors except for Jean Auel and Xenophon It's been a while since i immerse myself like that in fantasy. I remember
    a promotion where they were giving away the first half of the first book of The Wheel of Time. I read that, and later checked out the rest of the serie from the library. Light reading :}

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since! It hurt my heart when I had to sell 2,000 books as I joined the Navy. I had only a pinto to stuff with everything I owned including 2 seabags of uniforms that were not optional. I made room for 750 or so in the car.

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that are sensible as they happen.

    Side seege. I have a returning sysop. Think anyone would like to see him here? He's still setting up so would be a bit.

    xxcarol
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 3 06:18:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Grin, not much into Pohl, Zelazny or Herbert. No special reason and
    have read some of all 3's works. How about Chelsea Quinn Yarbro?
    (Saint Germain Vampire). Liked some of the Tarzan books but the
    authors rampant racism palled fast and I tossed the rest in the trash.

    Not much into vampires or zombies. And never did care for Tarzan. Much
    prefer George of the Jungle. Bv)=

    Anne McAffrey (pern books) is a good read.

    She's very readable. Also Mercedes Lackey.

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    Title: Kaeng Paa Kai (Jungle Curry w/Chicken)
    Categories: Oriental, Chilies, Poultry, Herbs, Curry
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM------------------------CURRY PASTE-----------------------------
    2 tb Takrai (lemon grass);
    - bruised, thin sliced
    3 tb Shallots; coarse chopped
    2 tb Kratiem (garlic); chopped
    1/4 c Kachai (lesser ginger);
    - peeled, chopped
    8 Prik chee fa daegn haeng
    - (dried red Thai crushed
    - jalapenos)
    1 ts Green peppercorns
    1 ts Kapi (fermented shrimp
    - paste)
    ds Fish sauce

    MMMMM---------------------------CURRY--------------------------------
    4 c Chicken; in 1" pieces
    1/4 c Nam pla (fish sauce)
    3 c Chicken stock or water
    1/2 c Makhua pro (Thai eggplant)
    1/4 c Prik che fa (Thai jalaenos);
    - julienned
    1/2 c Bai maenglak (kaffir lime
    - leaves); shredded
    +=OR=+
    1 ts Lime zest

    A recent trip to Bangkok resulted in our eating at a nice
    little restaurant in a back alley near the airport. This
    dish is quite common, but both my wife and I were taken by
    the presentation described here (the rest of the recipe is
    however my wife's).

    Of course before you rush out to try this, I have to say
    that you need a heavy, and very sharp knife - a machete or a
    survivalist's Bowie might be suitable - and a degree of
    skill in its use if you are not to have a messy accident -
    spilling the contents of the coconuts all over the kitchen
    may well be the least of your problems. So of course I point
    out that you can open the coconuts some other way, and serve
    the dish in more conventional tableware!

    Preparation:

    First prepare the curry paste by grinding the ingredients to
    a fine paste in a mortar and pestle or food processor.

    Pierce the coconuts and drain the juice into a picher. Then
    using a machete chop off the top of each coconut, just above
    the mid-point, to leave four serving bowls.

    Using a spoon scoop out the coconut 'meat' in leaf shaped
    pieces with a spoon (or use a melon baller). Add about half
    a cup of coconut to the juice for every two cups of juice,
    and refrigerate.

    Reserve half a cup of coconut meat, and reserve the rest to
    make coconut milk for other recipes.

    Heat a wok or large sautee pan over medium high heat, and
    then add a little oil and stir fry the curry paste until
    aromatic. add the chicken, and stir fry briefly and then add
    the remaining ingredients, except the lime leaves and the
    chicken stock, and stir fry until the chicken begins to
    change colour. Add the stock, and cover, simmering until the
    chicken and the eggplant is cooked through.

    Now serve the curry in the four large coconut shell bowls,
    garnished with the lime leaves, and accompanied by rice in
    the tops of the coconut shells, bring the chilled coconut
    nectar to the table as a refreshing cool drink, and don't
    forget the usual condiments (nam pla prik (chilies in fish
    sauce), dried ground chilies, and sugar).

    Colonel Ian F. Khuntilanont-Philpott; Systems Engineering,
    Vongchavalitkul University, Korat 30000, Thailand

    NOTES:

    Kachai is a relative of ginger, known as Lesser Ginger in
    some parts of the world (though I am reminded that in other
    places this appelation is used for galangal). For those of a
    botanical bent its latin name is Kaempferia Panduratum.

    The prik chee fa are a mild chile, about 6 centimetres long
    and 1 cm thick. They are known as Thai jalapenos, and if
    unavailable the Mexican variety could be substituted. If
    dried red jalapenas are not available, deseed, and devein
    fresh jalapenos, and use them instead.

    Makheua pro are a Thai variety of eggplant, about the size
    and shape of a green golfball. If unavailable you can use
    normal aubergine, but will need to adjust the cooking time.

    Bai maenglak is a sweet Thai basil. If unavailable normal
    European basil may be used.

    Recipe By: Colonel I.F.K. Philpott

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 3 10:06:08 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Tue Jul 02 2024 19:20:37

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since!

    Same deal here. Once i gained the ability to check books out from my elementary school library, i had enthusiasm for it. Some of my first
    books were Choose Your Own Adventures. Low brow, but fun!

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that are sensible as they happen.

    Clan of the Cave Bear is on my to-read list ever since i read that Ayla,
    my favorite character in the SNES RPG "Chrono Trigger", was inspired by
    that book.
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 3 14:38:47 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 03 2024 10:06 am

    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Tue Jul 02 2024 19:20:37

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since!

    Same deal here. Once i gained the ability to check books out from my elementary school library, i had enthusiasm for it. Some of my first
    books were Choose Your Own Adventures. Low brow, but fun!

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that are sensib as they happen.

    Clan of the Cave Bear is on my to-read list ever since i read that Ayla,
    my favorite character in the SNES RPG "Chrono Trigger", was inspired by
    that book.

    Grin, my first books were every fairy tale I could find then expanded rapidly on to Little house on the praire by Mary Ingalls Wilder (A real person if you didn't know).

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    xxcarol
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to BEN COLLVER on Thu Jul 4 06:13:00 2024
    Quoting Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    Clan of the Cave Bear is on my to-read list ever since i read that
    Ayla, my favorite character in the SNES RPG "Chrono Trigger", was
    inspired by that book.

    My mother loved that book. I know she's mentioned it to me a few times
    as one I should read... I just always seem to find something else. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jul 4 09:28:19 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 14:38:47

    Grin, my first books were every fairy tale I could find then expanded rapidly on to Little house on the praire by Mary Ingalls Wilder (A real person if you didn't know).

    I had that series read to me when i was a kid, and later read a couple of
    them myself.

    I am fortunate that i can tolerate ebooks pretty well, and there is a wealth
    of free ebooks online.

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    Thanks for the recommendation, i'll bump it up higher on my to-read list.
    The local library has a physical copy.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Old-Fashioned Farmer Boy Ice Cream
    Categories: Icecream
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 lg Eggs
    1 c Whole milk
    1 c Granulated sugar
    3 c Heavy whipping cream;
    -divided
    2 Lemons
    5 lb Ice cubes; up to 7
    2 lb Rock salt (ice cream salt);
    -up to 3

    Separate the eggs into two small bowls, yolks in one and whites in the
    second. Beat the yolks for about a minute, until lighter in color and
    smooth.

    Pour the milk into a small saucepan and turn the heat up to medium
    high and heat until simmering. Make sure not to scald the milk.

    Add in the sugar and stir until dissolved, about 1-1/2 minutes.
    Reduce the heat to medium low. Add in the egg yolks and stir until
    the custard thickens enough to coat your wooden spoon with a milky
    film.

    Pour the custard into a jar and place in the fridge for later use.

    In the bowl of a stand mixer or of a hand mixer, beat the egg whites
    until some stiff peaks form. Pour in 1 cup of heavy cream and beat
    for an additional 2 to 3 minutes. Add the remaining cream and stir
    gently. Place the bowl in the refrigerator for 10 minutes. Squeeze
    lemons and strain juice to add in later.

    Fill a very large wide-mouthed bowl about halfway with ice. Sprinkle
    on the salt and create a well in the center of the bowl. Take the
    custard and whipped egg mixture out of the fridge. (Fun fact: The
    salt will lower the freezing point and produce a solution colder than
    32°F.)

    Pour the custard into the bowl with the whipped egg mixture. Place
    the bowl in the ice and pile ice up on the sides.

    Stir for 5 to 10 minutes and cover with a dish towel. Let sit for 10
    minutes, then repeat scraping and stirring; repeat this process 3 to 4
    times, or until ice cream reaches soft-serve consistency. Add in the
    lemon juice.

    Continue stirring and resting until the ice cream is too stiff to
    move. This will take about an hour. Let the ice cream sit undisturbed
    for 30 minutes.

    To serve, scoop into bowls and top with desired toppings.

    Recipe by Margaret Darazs

    Recipe FROM: <https://littlehouseontheprairie.com/
    old-fashioned-ice-cream-recipe/>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 3 13:25:04 2024
    Hi Carol,

    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R Donaldson Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne Rice, Jack Londo Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among others like Shakesphere Xenophon.

    Nice! I have enjoyed all of those authors except for Jean Auel and Xenophon It's been a while since i immerse myself like that in fantasy. I remember
    a promotion where they were giving away the first half of the first book of The Wheel of Time. I read that, and later checked out the rest of the serie from the library. Light reading :}

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since! It hurt
    my heart when I had to sell 2,000 books as I joined the Navy. I had
    only a pinto to stuff with everything I owned including 2 seabags of uniforms that were not optional. I made room for 750 or so in the
    car.

    I've also been a voracious reader since I mastered the Dick and Jane
    series back in first grade. (G) Favorite genre is historic fiction,
    least favorite is romance and science ficton. Bought most of my books in paperback when Steve was active duty but now do more hardback and Nook.

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone
    age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor
    who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that
    are CS> sensible as they happen.

    That's been one of my favorite series since a friend introduced me to it
    back when we were in Frankfurt (1986-89). Another friend in that time
    frame introduced me to Tom Clancy. Other favorite authors include James Michener (he always has at least general instructions for a recipe in
    all of his books), Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Weir, Ken Follett,
    R.F. Delderfeld and Philippa Gergory


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jul 4 12:52:42 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 03 2024 10:06 am


    Grin, my first books were every fairy tale I could find then expanded rapidly on to Little house on the praire by Mary Ingalls Wilder (A
    real person if you didn't know). *****


    *****Laura Ingalls Wilder. Mary was her older sister who went blind. An interesting biography of Laura is "Prairie Fire", sorry I can't give you
    the author as I borrowed it from my daughter, returned it to her out in
    Utah last year.



    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on
    what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    Those books were good reads; I have the first 5 in paperback, last one
    on my Nook. It would be interesting to try some of the cooking
    techniques; some of them (pit "oven" for rxample) are still in use
    today.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Multitask: make twice the mistakes in 1/2 the time.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 5 17:19:49 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 03 2024 01:25 pm

    Hi Carol,

    I enjoy a lot of fiction but not much on short stories. I like to be enveloped in a fully fleshed out world of it's own. Stephen R Donald Mercedes Lacky, Marion Zimmer Bradley, JRR Tolkin, Anne Rice, Jack Lo Issac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Jean Auel, among others like Shakesphe Xenophon.

    Nice! I have enjoyed all of those authors except for Jean Auel and Xenop It's been a while since i immerse myself like that in fantasy. I remembe a promotion where they were giving away the first half of the first book The Wheel of Time. I read that, and later checked out the rest of the se from the library. Light reading :}

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since! It hurt my heart when I had to sell 2,000 books as I joined the Navy. I had only a pinto to stuff with everything I owned including 2 seabags of uniforms that were not optional. I made room for 750 or so in the
    car.

    I've also been a voracious reader since I mastered the Dick and Jane
    series back in first grade. (G) Favorite genre is historic fiction,
    least favorite is romance and science ficton. Bought most of my books in paperback when Steve was active duty but now do more hardback and Nook.

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor
    who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that
    are CS> sensible as they happen.

    That's been one of my favorite series since a friend introduced me to it back when we were in Frankfurt (1986-89). Another friend in that time
    frame introduced me to Tom Clancy. Other favorite authors include James Michener (he always has at least general instructions for a recipe in
    all of his books), Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Weir, Ken Follett,
    R.F. Delderfeld and Philippa Gergory



    Lots of differences but lots of similar too. Meantime, still chewing down the last of Lion of Senet. Not sure what next from my own library.

    Today Charlotte and I had a little fun going to CHKD (local place to donate stuff with tax deduction that helps defray costs for children of low income families with serious condions, a local hospital and famous for stellar care and childrens spinal surgery). I picked a nice coleman cooler with built in handle to whell it around, 2 cook nooks and a dvd with 25 John Wayne movies. Oh, 2 pretty dishes. Charlotte found a cute shirt. Then on to Denny's.

    Dennny's is just simple good food that doesn't break the piggy bank. Charlotte had a sald with salmon topper. Came with a generous slab of salmon (6-7oz) on a bed of lettuce, tomtatos, and cucumbers with a honey mustard dressing. I had a big bacon cheeseburger with lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles on a toasted bun served with onion rings. Doggy bags followed us home (grin). Then gas using my Harris Teeters point got me 60cents off a gallon.

    She went off to game stop after and got Don the last PS2 they had then found a nice hand held game she can use when the ship is in EMCON (no wifi allowed).

    Tommorrow is the last day then off at 6am for the airport on Sunday.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 5 17:32:49 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jul 04 2024 12:52 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Wed Jul 03 2024 10:06 am


    Grin, my first books were every fairy tale I could find then expanded rapidly on to Little house on the praire by Mary Ingalls Wilder (A
    real person if you didn't know). *****


    *****Laura Ingalls Wilder. Mary was her older sister who went blind. An interesting biography of Laura is "Prairie Fire", sorry I can't give you
    the author as I borrowed it from my daughter, returned it to her out in
    Utah last year.



    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    Those books were good reads; I have the first 5 in paperback, last one
    on my Nook. It would be interesting to try some of the cooking
    techniques; some of them (pit "oven" for rxample) are still in use
    today.


    I've done some of it over the fireplace in winter, Fun for a trial!

    xxcarol
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 6 11:48:40 2024
    Hi Caol,

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since! It hurt my heart when I had to sell 2,000 books as I joined the Navy. I had only a pinto to stuff with everything I owned including 2 seabags of uniforms that were not optional. I made room for 750 or so in the
    car.

    I've also been a voracious reader since I mastered the Dick and Jane
    series back in first grade. (G) Favorite genre is historic fiction,
    least favorite is romance and science ficton. Bought most of my books in paperback when Steve was active duty but now do more hardback and Nook.

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor
    who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that
    are CS> sensible as they happen.

    That's been one of my favorite series since a friend introduced me to it back when we were in Frankfurt (1986-89). Another friend in that time
    frame introduced me to Tom Clancy. Other favorite authors include James Michener (he always has at least general instructions for a recipe in
    all of his books), Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Weir, Ken Follett,
    R.F. Delderfeld and Philippa Gergory

    Lots of differences but lots of similar too. Meantime, still chewing
    down the last of Lion of Senet. Not sure what next from my own
    library.

    I grabbed one that was a give away from our American Legion post's
    library a while back and am reading it now. Book is "Indianapolis",
    about the ship that delivered parts for the Hiroshima bomb and then got torpedoed/sunk on the return trip.


    Today Charlotte and I had a little fun going to CHKD (local place to donate stuff with tax deduction that helps defray costs for children
    of low income families with serious condions, a local hospital and
    famous for stellar care and childrens spinal surgery). I picked a

    Sounds like a worthy place to patronise. I need to do a roundup of stuff
    to go to ReStore or Good Will, maybe some to the seminary's Sharing Shop
    as well.

    nice coleman cooler with built in handle to whell it around, 2 cook
    nooks and a dvd with 25 John Wayne movies. Oh, 2 pretty dishes. CS>
    Charlotte found a cute shirt. Then on to Denny's.

    There's usually something calling your name. A while back at ReStore
    they had a treadle sewing machine, in cabinet, and the cabinet drawers
    were stuffed full of sewing odds & ends (thread, tape measure, scissors,
    etc) for $45. We've no room to put it in the house or I would have
    snatched it up.


    Dennny's is just simple good food that doesn't break the piggy bank. Charlotte had a sald with salmon topper. Came with a generous slab of salmon (6-7oz) on a bed of lettuce, tomtatos, and cucumbers with a
    honey mustard dressing. I had a big bacon cheeseburger with lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles on a toasted bun served with onion rings. Doggy bags followed us home (grin). Then gas using my Harris Teeters point
    got me 60cents off a gallon.

    When we were stationed at Fort Huachua, I used to go to the local
    Denny's a lot with a friend--until it burned down a year or so before we
    moved to Hawaii. We've gone back to the FH/Sierra Vista area several
    times and saw that the Denny's was rebuilt. I don't think my friend goes
    there very much any more, age and health issues keep her pretty well housebound.


    She went off to game stop after and got Don the last PS2 they had then found a nice hand held game she can use when the ship is in EMCON (no
    wifi allowed).

    Something to keep her busy in down times. I'd probably grab a book from
    the ship's library if they had one or have my Nook loaded with new
    reads.


    Tommorrow is the last day then off at 6am for the airport on Sunday.

    I know you've enjoyed having her home. I don't think we'll be getting
    out west to see our daughters and grandkids this year, still waiting on
    the camper to be fixed and just have a couple of trips planned, Tennesee
    and western NC.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 6 12:07:44 2024
    Hi Carol,

    *****Laura Ingalls Wilder. Mary was her older sister who went blind. An interesting biography of Laura is "Prairie Fire", sorry I can't give you
    the author as I borrowed it from my daughter, returned it to her out in
    Utah last year.

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    Those books were good reads; I have the first 5 in paperback, last one
    on my Nook. It would be interesting to try some of the cooking
    techniques; some of them (pit "oven" for rxample) are still in use
    today.

    I've done some of it over the fireplace in winter, Fun for a trial!

    We have a gas fireplace so it wouldn't work out quite as well. However,
    Steve does have a charcoal grill, egg shaped but not the name brand
    green one. Might be worth trying that for "campfire" cooking. He grilled
    a pizza the other night but because of time constraints, did it on one
    of our gas grills.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... OH NO! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 8 17:17:40 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 06 2024 11:48 am

    Hi Caol,

    I learned to read and have been pretty voracious ever since! It hur my heart when I had to sell 2,000 books as I joined the Navy. I had only a pinto to stuff with everything I owned including 2 seabags of uniforms that were not optional. I made room for 750 or so in the car.

    I've also been a voracious reader since I mastered the Dick and Jane series back in first grade. (G) Favorite genre is historic fiction,
    least favorite is romance and science ficton. Bought most of my books in paperback when Steve was active duty but now do more hardback and Nook.

    Jean Auel is 'Clan of the Cave Bear'. Girl then woman in the stone age. She's a rebel who trys to be normal. A medicine woman/Doctor who domesticates a wolf and a horse but it all grows in bits that
    are CS> sensible as they happen.

    That's been one of my favorite series since a friend introduced me to it back when we were in Frankfurt (1986-89). Another friend in that time frame introduced me to Tom Clancy. Other favorite authors include James Michener (he always has at least general instructions for a recipe in
    all of his books), Barbara Taylor Bradford, Alison Weir, Ken Follett, R.F. Delderfeld and Philippa Gergory

    Lots of differences but lots of similar too. Meantime, still chewing down the last of Lion of Senet. Not sure what next from my own library.

    I grabbed one that was a give away from our American Legion post's
    library a while back and am reading it now. Book is "Indianapolis",
    about the ship that delivered parts for the Hiroshima bomb and then got torpedoed/sunk on the return trip.


    Today Charlotte and I had a little fun going to CHKD (local place to donate stuff with tax deduction that helps defray costs for children
    of low income families with serious condions, a local hospital and famous for stellar care and childrens spinal surgery). I picked a

    Sounds like a worthy place to patronise. I need to do a roundup of stuff
    to go to ReStore or Good Will, maybe some to the seminary's Sharing Shop
    as well.

    nice coleman cooler with built in handle to whell it around, 2 cook nooks and a dvd with 25 John Wayne movies. Oh, 2 pretty dishes. CS>
    Charlotte found a cute shirt. Then on to Denny's.

    There's usually something calling your name. A while back at ReStore
    they had a treadle sewing machine, in cabinet, and the cabinet drawers
    were stuffed full of sewing odds & ends (thread, tape measure, scissors, etc) for $45. We've no room to put it in the house or I would have
    snatched it up.


    Dennny's is just simple good food that doesn't break the piggy bank. Charlotte had a sald with salmon topper. Came with a generous slab of salmon (6-7oz) on a bed of lettuce, tomtatos, and cucumbers with a honey mustard dressing. I had a big bacon cheeseburger with lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles on a toasted bun served with onion rings. Doggy bags followed us home (grin). Then gas using my Harris Teeters point got me 60cents off a gallon.

    When we were stationed at Fort Huachua, I used to go to the local
    Denny's a lot with a friend--until it burned down a year or so before we moved to Hawaii. We've gone back to the FH/Sierra Vista area several
    times and saw that the Denny's was rebuilt. I don't think my friend goes there very much any more, age and health issues keep her pretty well housebound.


    She went off to game stop after and got Don the last PS2 they had then found a nice hand held game she can use when the ship is in EMCON (no wifi allowed).

    Something to keep her busy in down times. I'd probably grab a book from
    the ship's library if they had one or have my Nook loaded with new
    reads.


    Tommorrow is the last day then off at 6am for the airport on Sunday.

    I know you've enjoyed having her home. I don't think we'll be getting
    out west to see our daughters and grandkids this year, still waiting on
    the camper to be fixed and just have a couple of trips planned, Tennesee
    and western NC.


    Once I got help with the dyslexia, I hit my stance on reading and progressed rapidly but still had kid interests as expected. I showed up for 3rd grade suddenly reading and at 3rd grade level. End of 3rd grade, was at 5th grade as I entered 4th grade. Not amazing really, all 4 of us were waiting for 'next library day' and checking out max books allowed.

    Ah well, making stir fry veggies and a pasta alfredo dish with kielbasa. I do that one often but we both like it a lot! Later, I'll make a pasta salad for munchies or lunch uses.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 8 17:45:55 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 06 2024 12:07 pm

    Hi Carol,

    *****Laura Ingalls Wilder. Mary was her older sister who went blind. An interesting biography of Laura is "Prairie Fire", sorry I can't give you the author as I borrowed it from my daughter, returned it to her out in Utah last year.

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible o what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    Those books were good reads; I have the first 5 in paperback, last one
    on my Nook. It would be interesting to try some of the cooking techniques; some of them (pit "oven" for rxample) are still in use
    today.

    I've done some of it over the fireplace in winter, Fun for a trial!

    We have a gas fireplace so it wouldn't work out quite as well. However, Steve does have a charcoal grill, egg shaped but not the name brand
    green one. Might be worth trying that for "campfire" cooking. He grilled
    a pizza the other night but because of time constraints, did it on one
    of our gas grills.


    Got our fireplace cleaned today and agreed to some repairs. Not bad, few here get annual cleanings and USE the fireplace much. He found our well used truely functional fireplace really nice. The extended hearth is quite unique in a modern hearth but normal in the 1700-1800's.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHipdvDt77A

    Nice series behind it!

    xxcarol


























































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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 9 13:41:26 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 06 2024 11:48 am

    Lots of differences but lots of similar too. Meantime, still chewing down the last of Lion of Senet. Not sure what next from my own library.

    I grabbed one that was a give away from our American Legion post's
    library a while back and am reading it now. Book is "Indianapolis",
    about the ship that delivered parts for the Hiroshima bomb and then got torpedoed/sunk on the return trip.

    Still working on that, on the attempts to clear the captain's name in
    the late 90s.


    Tommorrow is the last day then off at 6am for the airport on
    Sunday.

    I know you've enjoyed having
    her home. I don't think we'll be getting > out west to see our
    daughters and grandkids this year, still waiting on > the camper to be
    fixed and just have a couple of trips planned, Tennesee > and western
    NC. CS> >

    Once I got help with the dyslexia, I hit my stance on reading and progressed rapidly but still had kid interests as expected. I showed
    up for 3rd grade suddenly reading and at 3rd grade level. End of 3rd grade, was at 5th grade as I entered 4th grade. Not amazing really,
    all 4 of us were waiting for 'next library day' and checking out max
    books allowed.

    I think I was a grade or 2 ahead of my reading after first grade. Don't
    know how it was measured in grade school but sophomore year of high
    school we (class) took a standardised test and the teachers gave us
    results individually. In just about all areas I was reading, etc at a
    college level sophomore (highest grading they went). I had unrestricted
    library priviledges as a 2nd grader, also took advantage of the town
    public library and bookmobile. We didn't get tv until I was in 4th
    grade, then only one channel, which probably contributed to reading so
    much.


    Ah well, making stir fry veggies and a pasta alfredo dish with
    kielbasa. I do that one often but we both like it a lot! Later, I'll make a pasta salad for munchies or lunch uses.

    We're going to do another pita based pizza for supper, use up the pitas
    and do it on the grill. I like pasta salad but Steve doesn't so will
    make some for me if I have to take a meal somewhere (like our now
    deceased quilting group). Had a high protein lunch--scrambled eggs with
    cut up hot dogs and cheese, sort of an omelette--so supper doesn't need
    to have as much protein.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 9 13:56:23 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Those books were good reads; I have the first 5 in paperback, last one
    on my Nook. It would be interesting to try some of the cooking techniques; some of them (pit "oven" for rxample) are still in use
    today.

    I've done some of it over the fireplace in winter, Fun for a trial!

    We have a gas fireplace so it wouldn't work out quite as well. However, Steve does have a charcoal grill, egg shaped but not the name brand
    green one. Might be worth trying that for "campfire" cooking. He grilled
    a pizza the other night but because of time constraints, did it on one
    of our gas grills.


    Got our fireplace cleaned today and agreed to some repairs. Not bad,
    few here get annual cleanings and USE the fireplace much. He found
    our well used truely functional fireplace really nice. The extended hearth is quite unique in a modern hearth but normal in the
    1700-1800's.

    We have a small hearth but don't use the fireplace that often, even in
    winter. Can't really do any cooking in the fireplace but do have the
    camper stove if our power goes out. It's a 3 burner top with a small
    oven so we could do quite a bit of cooking, just can't use the microwave
    unless we run the generator.






















































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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 11 17:19:05 2024
    Re: Books [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 09 2024 01:41 pm

    Hi Carol,

    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 06 2024 11:48 am

    Lots of differences but lots of similar too. Meantime, still chewin down the last of Lion of Senet. Not sure what next from my own library.

    I grabbed one that was a give away from our American Legion post's library a while back and am reading it now. Book is "Indianapolis",
    about the ship that delivered parts for the Hiroshima bomb and then got torpedoed/sunk on the return trip.

    Still working on that, on the attempts to clear the captain's name in
    the late 90s.


    Tommorrow is the last day then off at 6am for the airport on
    Sunday.

    I know you've enjoyed having
    her home. I don't think we'll be getting > out west to see our
    daughters and grandkids this year, still waiting on > the camper to be
    fixed and just have a couple of trips planned, Tennesee > and western
    NC. CS> >

    Once I got help with the dyslexia, I hit my stance on reading and progressed rapidly but still had kid interests as expected. I showed up for 3rd grade suddenly reading and at 3rd grade level. End of 3rd grade, was at 5th grade as I entered 4th grade. Not amazing really, all 4 of us were waiting for 'next library day' and checking out max books allowed.

    I think I was a grade or 2 ahead of my reading after first grade. Don't
    know how it was measured in grade school but sophomore year of high
    school we (class) took a standardised test and the teachers gave us
    results individually. In just about all areas I was reading, etc at a college level sophomore (highest grading they went). I had unrestricted library priviledges as a 2nd grader, also took advantage of the town
    public library and bookmobile. We didn't get tv until I was in 4th
    grade, then only one channel, which probably contributed to reading so
    much.


    Ah well, making stir fry veggies and a pasta alfredo dish with kielbasa. I do that one often but we both like it a lot! Later, I'll make a pasta salad for munchies or lunch uses.

    We're going to do another pita based pizza for supper, use up the pitas
    and do it on the grill. I like pasta salad but Steve doesn't so will
    make some for me if I have to take a meal somewhere (like our now
    deceased quilting group). Had a high protein lunch--scrambled eggs with
    cut up hot dogs and cheese, sort of an omelette--so supper doesn't need
    to have as much protein.


    Grin, we had a test at the end of each year from 2nd grade on until HS (multiple states). They were used to assess the school I think.

    When we moved to VA, my old records caused a problem as the dyslexia (mom hid it from me) lamded me in remedial finger paintin english. It was a great year as the teacher realized day 2 I was way past that! (1/2 the class couldn't read). She set me free in the library with projects. Wonderful year!

    Love the pita pizza idea! I learned to make pitas but I still don't get much of a center hole. I'll keep trying!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Jul 12 13:33:49 2024
    Hi Carol,

    Ah well, making stir fry veggies and a pasta alfredo dish with kielbasa. I do that one often but we both like it a lot! Later, I'll make a pasta salad for munchies or lunch uses.

    We're going to do another pita based pizza for supper, use up the pitas
    and do it on the grill. I like pasta salad but Steve doesn't so will
    make some for me if I have to take a meal somewhere (like our now
    deceased quilting group). Had a high protein lunch--scrambled eggs with
    cut up hot dogs and cheese, sort of an omelette--so supper doesn't need
    to have as much protein.

    Grin, we had a test at the end of each year from 2nd grade on until HS (multiple states). They were used to assess the school I think.

    We had various tests over the years, Iowa Test of Basic Skills in 3rd
    thru 8th grades are the only ones I remember specific name for. The
    English test in 10th grade was a one time test, probably to predict who
    would be good college material. Regents Scholarship exam was senior
    year, for money from state for college.

    When we moved to VA, my old records caused a problem as the
    dyslexia CS> (mom hid it from me) lamded me in remedial finger paintin
    english. It CS> was a great year as the teacher realized day 2 I was
    way past that! CS> (1/2 the class couldn't read). She set me free in
    the library with CS> projects. Wonderful year!

    We only had graded English classes my senior year, but they weren't
    called such. Only 14 of us in the "honors" level; we read books the
    other 3 classes didn't. We concentrated on British authors so read (only
    one) Shakespear, Thomas Hardy and George Orwell, among others.


    Love the pita pizza idea! I learned to make pitas but I still don't
    get much of a center hole. I'll keep trying!

    We've yet to try making pitas. These were some that were given to
    us,supposed to be good for wraps as they didn't have a center hole. They
    do make a good pizza but you have to use the double thickness, and even
    then, the crust is a much thinner one than we usually make. They bake on
    a grill (we have a small pizza oven, with a stone, grill topper) easily
    but best to have a peel that's big enough to hold the whole pita, no
    flopping over the edges, especially if the pizza is loaded. The pita
    also makes a good toaster oven size pizza, good for hot days that you
    don't want to heat up the big oven or the grill.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 15 16:09:23 2024
    Re: Books [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Jul 12 2024 01:33 pm


    We read a lot of sooks in AP english. Unfortunately the teacher hated me. I had the audacity to date a black student..... I barely survived with a C but locked in 780 SAT in English. A lot was early American authors but many other things. 20 books over summertime break before class started. She thought the sun rose over his ass or something.

    On pita breads, give it a shot! Here's 2 recipes more inline with your style baking.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: WHOLE WHEAT PITA BREAD
    Categories: Diabetic, Easy, Breadmaker
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 pk Active dry yeast;
    1 ts Honey;(needed 4 yeast action
    1 c Plus 2 tbs warm water
    (110-115) water
    2 1/4 c All-purpose wheat flour;
    1/2 c Whole wheat flour;
    1 ts Salt

    Add yeast and honey to warm water in a medium-size bowl; let stand
    until foamy, about 5 minutes. Combine the fours and salt in a large
    mixing bowl. Pour yeast mixture into center and stir until dough can
    be gathered into a ball. Knead dough floured board until smooth.
    Place dough in a large, lighty oiled bowl. Cover with a damp towel
    and place in a dry, draft-free place until dough had doubled, 1 to 2
    hours. Punch down dough; place on lightly floured board. Divide
    dough into 12 equal pieces. Shape into circles and place on nonstick
    cookie sheets. Allow to rest, covered with damp towel for 30 minutes.
    On lightly floured board, roll out each piece of dough to a circle,
    about 5 inches in diameter. Place on cookie sheets; let stand about
    30 minutes. Bake on middle rack of preheated 500 oven for 5 minutes.
    Remove pites from cookie sheets and let cool on rack. Store in
    airtight container in refrigerator. To serve, reheat wrapped in
    aluminum foil at 350 for 10 minutes.

    Food Exchanges per serving: 1 1/2 STARCH EXCHANGES CHO: 21g; PRO: 3g;
    FAT: 0g; CAL: 99 Low-sodium diets: Omit salt.

    Source: The Art of Cooking for the Diabetic by Mary Abbott Hess,R.D.,
    M.S.

    Brought you and yours via Nancy O'Brion and her Meal Master

    MMMMM

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    Title: Easy Pita Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 16 Pockets

    2 c Warm water
    1 ts Sugar
    1 pk Dry yeast (or 1 tb)
    5 c All-purpose flour
    1/4 c Vegetable oil
    2 ts Salt

    In mixing bowl, combine water and sugar; sprinkle yeast and let stand
    for 10 minutes or until dissolved and creamy. Using electric mixer,
    beat in 2 c. of the flour, oil and salt; beat for about 3 minutes or
    until smooth, scraping down side of bowl from time to time. With
    wooden spoon, beat in enough of the remaining flour to make stiff
    dough. Turn out onto lightly floured surface and knead for about 10
    minutes or until smooth and elastic. Place dough in lightly greased
    bowl, turning to grease all over. Cover with plastic wrap and let
    rise for 1 to 1 1/2 hours or until doubled in bulk. Divide dough into
    16 or 32 pieces. On lightly floured surface, roll each piece into 7"
    or 4" rounds. Cover and let rise for 15 minutes or until slightly
    risen. Meanwhile, heat ungreased baking sheet on lowest rack in 500
    degree oven (240 C). Using floured metal spatula, quickly transfer 2
    or 3 pita rounds to heated baking sheet; bake for 3 or 4 minutes or
    until puffed and light golden around edges. Repeat with remaining
    pita rounds. Let cool between damp tea towels. Pitas will collapse
    and soften slightly, but pocket will remain. (Alternatively, if crisp
    pitas are desired, let cool on racks) Pitas can be stored in plastic
    bags in freezer for up to 1 month. Makes 16 7" pitas or 32 4" pitas.

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 16 07:57:38 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don'r watch the boob tube (as I've said many times) so reading is
    my form of infotainment. The last physical book I bought was a copy
    of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" a non-fiction tome.

    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:

    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I thought I had. Got an updated "categories" listing from them a few
    days ago. But, I'm sticking with my current mix of cozy mysteries,
    crime fiction (detective stories), historical fiction, history, and
    cooking is what I'm sticking with.

    I read the brief description in the e-mail and, if interested, click
    the link and check out the fuller description on the web page. I
    remember plots and story lines better than titles - so sometimes
    I'll click on a book that sounds like it's up my street on to be
    informed that I already own it when I get to the Amazon page. Bv)=

    I've not encountered an "oh, I already own it" experience yet. (G)

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    Sometimes I've found interesting recipies in the magazines, especially
    if it's a magazine I don't subscribe to. I'll snap a picture of the
    recipe so I'll have it without tearing up the magazine. Or, if the magazine is really old, I'll ask if I can tear out the recipe and
    usually get an OK. (G)

    I sometimes get recipes is some of my "cozy mysteries" which are/can be intriguing. Those I will pound in to my Meal Monster software. But I've
    also got on-line feeds from Taste of Home, New York Times, Cookpad (UK), Woolworth's TASTE (Australia) and Copycat Recipes (Stephanie Manley)

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on
    more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Place all ingredients in a small bowl.

    Stir to combine.

    Refrigerate the sauce when not serving

    * Heinz Classic Original Barbecue Sauce is recommended

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 14:03:37 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up
    some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4
    authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    Sometimes I've found interesting recipies in the magazines, especially
    if it's a magazine I don't subscribe to. I'll snap a picture of the
    recipe so I'll have it without tearing up the magazine. Or, if the magazine is really old, I'll ask if I can tear out the recipe and
    usually get an OK. (G)

    I sometimes get recipes is some of my "cozy mysteries" which are/can
    be intriguing. Those I will pound in to my Meal Monster software. But I've also got on-line feeds from Taste of Home, New York Times,
    Cookpad (UK), Woolworth's TASTE (Australia) and Copycat Recipes
    (Stephanie Manley)

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I
    actually make it or not?" now.



    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=


    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll
    use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no
    honey mustard.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 07:37:14 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching TeeVee.
    He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made into movies and babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun and some eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They
    should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than the hack they used.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat that"
    after making the dish in my mind.

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more
    likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Tartar Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Cup

    3/4 c Hellman's or Duke's mayo
    4 tb Vlasic or Mt. Olive dill
    - pickle relish
    1 tb Real Lemon lemon juice
    1 tb Fine chopped green olives

    Put everything into into an appropriate container. Stir
    or whisk until well blended. Serve with fish or other
    seafood. Also good for dipping French fries.

    Store leftovers (if any) in a closed container in the
    ice box. Use within one week or bin the residue.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Sat Jul 20 12:39:00 2024
    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero. Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.

    Was it the shamanism that got it on the list?

    Mike


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 10:33:39 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 14:38:47

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that
    it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the
    themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero.
    Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 20 16:55:14 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Mike Powell to BEN COLLVER on Sat Jul 20 2024 12:39:00

    Was it the shamanism that got it on the list?

    I think it was the fictional prehistoric sexual practices not fit for
    a sanitized, Disney-esque worldview.

    Then again, neither are farms nor nature documentaries.
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 20 11:33:33 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching
    TeeVee. He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was
    as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made
    into movies and
    babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun and some
    eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than
    the hack they used.


    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble
    House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for King
    Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch
    the series.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.


    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but got
    to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did
    incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of
    balsamic vinegar for one.



    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings


    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings
    are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on
    a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold
    the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most meats unsauced.

    ---
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 06:28:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching
    TeeVee. He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was
    as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made
    into movies and babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun
    and some eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than the hack they used.

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell was
    a P.O.W. in WWII.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the database
    before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format lest I wind up
    with dupes.

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I'm not a fan of honey-mustard either. If I'm going to do honey - I'll
    take it traight up. And my favourite mustard is Asian or DiJon style -
    IOW zippy. Bv)=

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings
    are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on
    a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably isn't
    very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill
    I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker (which
    I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mustard Chicken
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Vegetables, Rice, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Chicken in bite-size pieces
    1/2 ts Salt; opt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 ts Softened butter or oil
    1 c Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    1 1/4 c Chicken broth
    2 tb Mild honey
    2 tb Lemon juice
    1/4 ts Salt; to taste (opt)
    1 1/2 c Cauliflower florets
    1 lg Carrot; scraped, thin sliced
    1/4 c Water
    1 tb Cornstarch
    2 tb Dijon-style mustard
    1 1/4 c Long-grain white rice; raw

    Cut chicken into small bite-sized pieces. Sprinkle with
    1/2 ts salt, if desired, and pepper. In large nonstick,
    spray-coated skillet, cook chicken pieces over medium
    heat, turning frequently with large wooden or plastic
    spoon, 7-10 minutes or until they begin to brown and
    are cooked through. Remove and set aside in medium bowl.

    In same skillet, combine butter, onion, garlic, and 3
    tb broth. Cook over medium heat, stirring frequently,
    6-7 minutes or until onion is tender. If liquid begins
    to evaporate, add a bit more broth.

    Add honey and lemon juice to pan with onions, and stir
    to combine well. Stir in remaining chicken broth and
    salt, if desired. Stir in reserved chicken, cauliflower,
    and carrot. Bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and
    simmer 20 minutes or until flavors are blended. *

    Meanwhile, cook rice according to package directions.

    Combine water and cornstarch. Stir into simmering sauce
    and cook, stirring, until thickened. Stir in mustard.
    Simmer an additional 1 or 2 minutes. Arrange rice on
    large serving platter. Top with chicken and sauce.
    Or serve individual portions over rice.

    Judi's Notes: I have not tried this dish but cooking
    cauliflower for 20 minutes is just too long. I would
    advise 10 minutes tops to keep it's bright color and
    not become mushy.

    * UDD's note: I steam the cauliflower and carrot in my
    rice steamer before steaming the rice. Hold the veggies
    aside to add back into the mix with the chicken just
    long enough to let the flavours marry.

    Also noted: a wok will work well in place of the non-
    stick skillet. This is an oriental dish, after all.

    Shared and MM by Judi M. Phelps.

    Amended slightly by Uncle Dirty Dave

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Mon Jul 22 16:51:04 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 10:33 am

    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 14:38:47

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on wh was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthal

    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero. Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.

    Banned? Probably somewhat graphic rape of an 11yo Ayla.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 23 12:15:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell
    was a P.O.W. in WWII.

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much.
    Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.


    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format lest
    I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably
    isn't very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill
    I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker
    (which I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg,
    vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade,
    then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often
    (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:42:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell
    was a P.O.W. in WWII.

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably
    isn't very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker (which I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I was already in the area for another purpose ........

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 c Buttermilk or plain yogurt
    - thinned with a little milk
    1 lg Onion; sliced
    1/4 c Mixed fresh herbs; chopped
    1/2 ts Paprika
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    3 lb Chicken thighs & drumsticks,
    - bone-in, skin-on

    MMMMM---------------------TO FRY THE CHICKEN--------------------------
    2 c Cooking oil
    2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Garlic salt
    1/2 ts Onion salt
    1 ts Cayenne pepper
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    MARINATE THE CHICKEN IN BUTTERMILK MIXTURE: Combine the
    buttermilk, sliced onion, herbs, paprika, and cayenne in
    a large bowl. Place the chicken pieces in the buttermilk
    mixture and coat completely. Cover and marinate
    overnight (at least 8 hours).

    DRAIN THE CHICKEN: Place chicken pieces in a colander
    and drain the excess buttermilk mixture.

    COAT THE CHICKEN PIECES WITH FLOUR: In a large sturdy
    paper or plastic bag, mix flour with garlic salt, onion
    salt, cayenne, salt and pepper. Place chicken pieces
    into bag with flour mixture and shake until thoroughly
    coated.

    HEAT THE OIL IN THICK-BOTTOMED PAN: Heat 2 cups of oil
    in a large, heavy-bottomed skillet (cast iron, stainless
    steel, or anodized aluminum-something that can take the
    heat) on medium high heat until a pinch of flour starts
    to sizzle when dropped in the hot oil (but not so hot
    that the pan is smoking), about 350oF/175oC. Remember
    when working with hot oil, always have a pan lid close
    by.

    FRY THE CHICKEN: Working in batches, add the chicken
    pieces to the hot oil in the pan and fry on one side for
    10 to 12 minutes, until golden brown, and then use metal
    tongs to turn the pieces over and fry for another 10 to
    12 minutes, until golden brown. Cook about 5 pieces at a
    time, making sure not to crowd the pan. Repeat until all
    the pieces are cooked.

    Be careful to keep the oil hot enough to cook the
    chicken thoroughly, but not so high that it burns the
    batter.

    PLACE CHICKEN ON RACK TO DRAIN EXCESS OIL: Use tongs to
    remove chicken from pan. Place on a rack over a cookie
    sheet or broiling pan for the excess oil to drain. Add
    more salt and pepper to taste. Let cool about 10 to 15
    minutes before serving.

    By: Elise Bauer

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 25 13:38:28 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had
    they lived longer.


    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we
    tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.


    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his
    life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way
    to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there.
    Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we
    bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:


    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 07:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the fixit
    shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything I want
    to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it on hard
    disk or USB drive.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there. Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I was
    born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car - they
    actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put away an
    order of fries, burger andchocolate shake. Bv)=

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the
    house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while the
    fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grilled Chicken Negro Mole
    Categories: Poultry, Sauces, Chilies, Herbs, Nuts
    Yield: 5 Servings

    MMMMM-------------------------NEGRO MOLE------------------------------
    1 tb Toasted sesame seeds
    4 Dried ancho chilies; torn in
    - pieces, some seeds left in
    2 Dried guajillo chilies, torn
    - in pieces, some seeds
    - discarded
    3 tb Blanched, slivered almonds
    2 tb Raisins
    1 c White onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Dried Mexican oregano
    pn Ground cloves
    1 tb Piloncillo Mexican cane
    - sugar
    3 c Chicken broth
    1/4 c Lard
    2 oz Dark Mexican chocolate; fine
    - chopped or grated
    1/2 ts Kosher salt

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    5 lb Free range organic chicken;
    - in 8 serving pieces
    1 ts Ground ancho chile
    1/2 ts Ground chipotle
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1 tb Granulated garlic
    2 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Fresh ground black pepper
    Cayenne pepper
    1/4 c Scallions; fine sliced,
    - garnish
    1/4 c Cilantro leaves; chopped,
    - garnish

    Recipe Courtesy: Guy Fieri

    PREPARE MOLE NEGRO: In a large saute pan over medium heat,
    toast the chilies on both sides until they soften and
    become fragrant, for 20 to 30 seconds, being careful not
    to scorch them.

    Add 1 cup of hot water just to cover and set aside to
    reconstitute for 30 minutes.

    Add the chilies and soaking water, toasted sesame seeds,
    almonds, raisins, onion, garlic, cinnamon, oregano,
    cloves, piloncillo Mexican cane sugar and 1/2 cup of
    chicken broth to a blender or food processor. Puree the
    ingredients until very smooth adding a little more broth,
    if too thick.

    COOK THE MOLE NEGRO: In a 6 quart Dutch oven over
    medium-high heat, add the lard and pureed mole mixture,
    and cook, stirring constantly, until most of the liquid
    has evaporated and it becomes shiny, for 6 to 8 minutes.

    Add the remaining broth and chocolate. Bring to a boil
    for about 5 minutes then reduce to a simmer, uncovered,
    until it is a thick consistency, for about 15 minutes.
    Season with salt, to taste. Remove from heat, cover and
    keep warm.

    Preheat the oven to 350ºF/175ºC. Preheat grill to high.

    PREPARE THE CHICKEN: In a small bowl, add the ancho,
    chipotle, cumin, garlic, salt, pepper and cayenne. Mix
    well to combine and set aside.

    Season the chicken pieces all over with spice mixture and
    set aside to briefly marinate while you set up grill.

    Set grill to high and wipe down grates with an oil blotted
    paper towel to clean and create a non-stick surface.

    Place chicken pieces on grill skin side down first to
    char. Cook for 3 to 4 minutes (moving the chicken if you
    have any flare ups) on the first side then turn and cook
    on the second side for another 3 to 4 minutes.

    Once chicken is marked off well, transfer to a roasting
    tray and finish cooking in the oven for 15 to 20 minutes.

    TO SERVE, ladle the mole sauce on the bottom of a large
    platter and arrange chicken pieces on the top so the
    chicken skin stays nice and crispy. Garnish with scallions
    and cilantro. Serve with extra mole sauce on the side.

    Yield: serves 4 to 6

    Source: Cocoa Loco Episode - Guy's Big Bite

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.guyfieri.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 08:09:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    In a message to Dave Drum you wrote:

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or
    we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    Butting in here: Could you ask Steve if he has a way to copy a c64 floppy
    to a image file one can use in an emulator? I found my c64 stuff and there
    is a floppy I /really/ want to see again but I have trust issues sending things to a random company.

    Thanks,
    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 28 07:24:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    hard disk or USB drive.

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 27 13:47:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really
    care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast
    majority.

    Marinade, RH> then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become
    regionally famous RH> specialising in chicken done this way. Recently
    talked with somebody RH> from the Albany area; he said his family used
    to go there quite often RH> (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there. Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they
    actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put away an
    order of fries, burger andchocolate shake. Bv)=

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when they
    first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't
    eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad
    for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.


    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs,
    like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jul 27 14:05:39 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    Hi Ruth,
    In a message to Dave Drum you wrote:

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or
    we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    Butting in here: Could you ask Steve if he has a way to copy a c64
    floppy to a image file one can use in an emulator? I found my c64
    stuff and there is a floppy I /really/ want to see again but I have
    trust issues sending things to a random company.

    Thanks for the idea but as I told Dave in today's packet, I have enough
    cook books, print outs, clippings, etc that I'm not interested any more
    in the vast majority of the contents of the floppies. I think he does
    have a C-64 emulator but it's just not worth the time/effort unless I
    know I want a specific recipe posted by a specific person on a specific
    date. We do have a good sized MM file of recipies saved from the echo
    once we got a PC, plus the internet has a gajillion more so I don't lack
    for ideas. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 29 07:49:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The Bridges
    at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast majority.

    Aw, jeez. I had a senior moment there. I can't locate my old 300 baud
    modem for the 64. And I no longer have an Am,iga or Windoze box that can
    be used to read *any* floppy discs.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 5 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    4 lb Drumsticks or leg quarters;
    - split
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1 ts Ground black pepper
    2 c Buttermilk

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    2 c A-P flour
    1 tb Lawry's season salt
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1 ts Ground black pepper
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Paprika
    Spray olive oil for cooking

    MARINATE THE CHICKEN: Season the chicken well with salt
    and pepper and then add it to a bowl with buttermilk.
    Chicken pieces should be covered with the buttermilk.
    Let it sit for at least an hour or up to overnight.

    BREAD THE CHICKEN: To prepare the breading mixture, stir
    together flour, seasoned salt, salt, pepper, garlic
    powder, and paprika.

    Remove chicken pieces from buttermilk and shake off any
    excess; then dip in the flour mix and coat well.
    Transfer breaded chicken pieces to a clean plate or wire
    rack to rest.

    AIR-FRY THE CHICKEN: You will need to work in two
    batches if you are doing a full chicken. Spray the
    basket of your air fryer with nonstick spray. Place half
    of the pieces in the basket of your air fryer. Try to
    ensure the pieces don’t touch. Air needs to circulate
    around them.

    Spray the chicken pieces lightly with spray oil. Place
    the basket in the air fryer and turn the air fryer to
    350ºFF/175ºC. Cook for 14 minutes, then flip the fried
    chicken with tongs, spray lightly with oil a second time
    on the bottom side of the chicken, and cook for another
    10 to 12 minutes, until chicken reaches 175ºF/80ºC.

    SIMPLE TIP! During the air frying process, if you pull
    out the chicken and notice any dry flour spots on the
    chicken, spray those spots lightly with oil. The
    breading will never crisp up if it doesn’t have a tiny
    bit of oil to hydrate it. It will just burn.

    SERVE: When the fried chicken is ready, let it rest on a
    plate for a few minutes before serving. Serve
    immediately with salad, coleslaw, mashed potatoes, or
    your favorite fried chicken sides!

    Cooked fried chicken can be stored in the fridge for 5
    days and reheated in a 300ºF/150ºC oven for 8 to 10
    minutes.

    Makes: 4 to 6 servings

    By: Nick Evans

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM
    chocolate shake. Bv)=

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were 8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage
    back then was 90c/hr.

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates collection
    of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down to a reasonable
    size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jul 29 07:52:08 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    hard disk or USB drive.

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?

    Probably not without buying/making soft and hardware to interface to a
    Windoze box. I have a parallel to parallel cable which I used to interface with my Amiga. But all of my Amigas have gone to that great bit bucket
    in the sky. And none of my current hardware has a parallel (printer) port.

    And my TotalTel modem (300 baud screamer) was lent to a now deceased
    friend some years ago - so I can't uven upload anything to a more up-
    to-dats system.

    Sorry. If I could I would. But .........

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Commodore
    Categories: Five, Booze, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 oz Rose's Lime juice
    1 oz Midori Melon liqueur
    1 oz Triple sec
    1 oz OVAL Vodka

    Shake, serve over ice for smooth and tasty goodness.

    FROM: http://www.idrink.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 30 06:34:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Tue, 29 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?
    Sorry. If I could I would. But .........

    It was worth asking. :) I'm going to run into someone one
    day that will be able to do it for me. There is a service in
    the US (RetroFloppy I think) but I'd have to mail the only
    copy of this to someone I don't know....

    I've got commodore hardware in storage, but I don't want
    to use vintage equipment that hasn't been serviced in 40 years
    because again... This is the only copy of the floppy.

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 29 12:59:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The
    Bridges at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)


    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast majority.

    Aw, jeez. I had a senior moment there. I can't locate my old 300 baud modem for the 64. And I no longer have an Am,iga or Windoze box that
    can be used to read *any* floppy discs.

    And I realised that we don't have a disc drive any more.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06


    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were
    8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage back then was 90c/hr.

    My basic rates for babysitting were 75c/hour, $1./hour after midnight.

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 06:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The
    Bridges at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not
    realise that he had written so many novels

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were
    8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage back then was 90c/hr.

    My basic rates for babysitting were 75c/hour, $1./hour after midnight.

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I have
    an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the hype).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Parmesan Crusted Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Sauces, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Boned, skinned chicken
    - breast halves
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1/2 c Panko bread crumbs
    1/2 c Parmesan; grated or shredded

    Pound each breast with a meat hammer so they are even.

    Sprinkle with salt.

    Spread Mayo on both sides of each piece of chicken.

    Mix panko, Parmesan, and garlic powder

    Coat each piece of chicken in the panko/Parmesan mix.

    Set the air fryer @ 390oF/199oC.

    In a single layer, place in the air fryer.

    Cook for 15 minutes, turning once after 10 minutes.

    By Julian Barnes: Pedant In The Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.adventuresofanurse.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 06:48:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates
    collection of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down
    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last time
    I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found several of
    his "science experiments" which I put in front of his computer monitor.

    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con tainers
    w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my
    budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    12 lg Cucumbers; very ripe
    1/2 c Salt
    4 1/2 c Water
    6 c Sugar
    1 qt Vinegar
    2 tb Mustard seeds
    1 tb Whole cloves
    1 (1") cinnamon stick

    Wash cucumbers; peel, cut in halves lengthwise and
    scoop out seeds.

    Let stand overnight in a brine made of the salt & water.

    Drain very well and cut into pieces.

    Tie spices into a cheesecloth bag.

    Bring sugar, vinegar and spices to a boil; add cucumbers
    and boil until cukes begin to look transparent but are
    still crisp.

    Fill sterilized jars and seal.

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    Yield: 3 quarts

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.food.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 31 14:40:44 2024
    Hi Dave,


    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were
    accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 31 14:57:29 2024
    Hi Dave,

    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last
    time I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found
    several of
    his "science experiments" which I put in front of his computer
    monitor.

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes
    for cookie storage, etc.


    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con
    tainers w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Ask him when he's having a science fair? (G)


    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and Lowe's
    marked it down, also gave us the military discount.


    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.


    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts


    Wash cucumbers; peel, cut in halves lengthwise and
    scoop out seeds.

    Let stand overnight in a brine made of the salt & water.

    That's the kind of pickle recipe I prefer, just a couple of days to
    make, not a couple of weeks.

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 06:29:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.

    Swap out your current toaster oven for a convection toaaster oven and
    put it in the same cunter space. Then send the old unit to your chruch's
    or Habitat's op-shop. But, be warned, there is a learning curve on
    air-frying. Bv)=

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post that
    your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 sm Sweet potatoes; peeled,
    - 14 oz. total
    1 tb Potato starch
    1/8 ts Garlic powder
    1 1/4 ts Kosher salt; divided
    3/4 c Ketchup or Ketchup-Rooster
    - Sauce mix
    Cooking spray

    Bring a medium pot of water to a boil over high heat.
    Add potatoes, and cook until just fork tender, about 15
    minutes. Transfer potatoes to a plate to cool, about 15
    minutes.

    Working over a medium bowl, grate potatoes using the
    large holes of a box grater. Gently toss with potato
    starch, garlic powder and 1 teaspoon salt.

    Shape mixture into about 24 (1") tot-shaped cylinders.

    Lightly coat air fryer basket with cooking spray. Place
    1/2 of tots (about 12) in single layer in the basket,
    and spray with cooking spray. Cook at 400°F/205°C until
    lightly browned, 12 to 14 minutes, turning tots halfway
    through cook time. Remove from fry basket and sprinkle
    with 1/8 teaspoon salt. Repeat with remaining tots and
    salt.

    Serve immediately with ketchup.

    Serves 4 (serving size: about 6 tots)

    By: Paige Grandjean

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 06:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last
    time I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found
    several of his "science experiments" which I put in front of his
    computer monitor.

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole
    dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to take
    with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely
    jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con
    tainers w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Ask him when he's having a science fair? (G)

    And I'd get a blank look and possibly a "Huh?" Bv)=

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the stoneware
    crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Pickles, Preserving
    Yield: 16 Pints

    74 Cucumbers; 4" to 5" long
    +=OR=+
    2 ga Small (gherkin-sized) cukes

    MMMMM------------------------FIRST BRINE-----------------------------
    2 c Salt
    +=TO=+
    1 ga Water

    MMMMM------------------------SECOND BRINE-----------------------------
    2 c Salt
    +=AND=+
    1 tb Powdered alum
    +=TO=+
    1 ga Water

    MMMMM---------------------------PICKLE--------------------------------
    6 c Vinegar
    1/3 c Pickling spice
    1 tb Celery seed
    3 c Sugar; divided

    Make brine of 2 cups salt to 1 gallon water. Boil and
    pour boiling water over cucumbers. Let stand 1 week in
    hot weather. Skim daily. Drain and cut into chunks.

    The next 3 mornings make a boiling hot solution of 1 gal.
    water and 1 tablespoon alum and pour over pickles (fresh
    hot bath for 3 mornings). The 4th morning, drain from
    alum water and heat.

    Make mixture of 6 cups vinegar, 5 cups sugar, 1/3 cup
    pickling spice, and 1 tablespoon celery seed; pour over
    pickles. The 5th morning, drain this liquid off and add
    2 cups sugar; heat again to boiling point and pour over
    pickles. The 6th morning, drain liquid off and add 1 cup
    sugar; heat.

    Pack pickles into jars; finish filling jars with liquid
    and seal at once.

    FROM: Uncle Phaedrus, Finder of Lost Recipes

    From: http://hungrybrowser.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 2 14:43:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf or
    2. (G)


    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.

    Swap out your current toaster oven for a convection toaaster oven and
    put it in the same cunter space. Then send the old unit to your
    chruch's or Habitat's op-shop. But, be warned, there is a learning
    curve on
    air-frying. Bv)=

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post
    that your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    True, Steve took a quick look at an air fryer at Costco yesterday, told
    him that we don't need it. Fine with him as he's used the toaster oven
    on convection various times.


    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as I'm
    not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the
    candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby food
    and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings can
    look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve it, but
    not eat it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 2 15:03:41 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a bit
    as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need of a
    few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with
    carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not be concerned with getting a dish back to us.


    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.


    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)


    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Pickles, Preserving
    Yield: 16 Pints

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 4 07:28:49 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a
    bit as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need
    of a few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not
    be concerned with getting a dish back to us.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.

    Great minds think alike. Bv)=

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Just checked with B.B. yesterday and they had an "open box" going for
    U$360 delivered. It will be here Tuesday.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK (10
    Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch, Creole,
    Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota
    Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover – January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or so
    they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles

    ... Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional.

    On of my mantras. Bv)=

    I was looking for a "Joy of Cooking" recipe in my Meal Monster and this
    popp[ed up. Since I know you are also a fan of Jeopardy ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jeopardy! Borscht
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Soups
    Yield: 8 Servings

    4 lg Beets; peeled, chopped
    4 lg Carrots; peeled, chopped
    1 lg Yellow onion; peeled,
    - chopped
    1 Beef soup bone
    10 c Beef stock
    1 lg White potato; peeled,
    - chopped (opt)

    Last year our terrific pal Tommy (who was such a delight
    to hang out with this Christmas, btw) brought his nice
    friend Ethan over for dinner and Catchphrase; we ate
    this soup and Ethan went on to be a guest on Jeopardy!.

    Peel and chop beets, carrots and onion; simmer in a rich
    beef stock. Also throw in the pot some type of flavorful
    soup-bone if you want. A cross-cut bone-in beef shank
    slice would be ideal, but one time I used pigs feet,
    which is completely non-traditional but lends a nice
    thick heartiness to the soup which otherwise is thinner
    and brothy.

    One thing to do alternatively is start the soup by
    sauteeing the chopped onion in the pot until it is
    transparent, then add half or more of the broth and
    the bone and simmer for awhile, THEN add the beets and,
    about twenty minutes later, the carrots.

    The beets will take at least a half an hour or so to
    become tender, so allow time for them to get mostly
    there before you add the carrots (and a potato if you
    want to), then let it go another 5 minutes or so and
    add 1-2 cups of chopped cabbage. Let all the veggies
    cook until tender.

    Periodically scrape off gross scum that collects on the
    surface of the soup from having the bone in there (you
    should start this early, but only have to do it a couple
    of times).

    Add: salt and pepper to taste; red-wine or another
    vinegar to taste which I recommend as 3 tablespoons
    or more depending how tangy you like it and I like it
    quite tangy (but remember, you can always add more later,
    or people can add splashes to individual servings, too).
    Now is also the time to add fresh dill if you like fresh
    dill. Russians like a lot of fresh dill on everything
    and keep a large bunch of it in foil in the the freezer
    for such occasions.

    Serve hot with big dollops of sour cream or cold with
    big dollops of yogurt and garnish with dill! Or mix and
    match!

    Or compare to a real recipe from an online resource!
    Makes good eatin'! Take out the bone before serving!
    Nice with pancakes, black bread or piroshki! Okay let
    me know how it goes!

    P.S. A few more things I would like to say about this
    soup before you ream me about it:

    1a. There are MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF BORSCH.

    1b. From what I understand traditional Russian borshch
    is spelled with no "t" and is really more like meat soup
    that happens to have a few beets thrown in. Some recipes
    call for mushrooms, garlic, navy beans and many other
    ingredients not included in Jeopardy! Borscht.

    2. This "recipe" has its roots in The Joy of Cooking,
    I didn't just totally make it up.

    3. I believe the spelling with a "t" comes from Germany,
    or from second-generation German-Americans who passed
    recipes to Irma Rombauer early last century. Please
    comment if you happen to know about the etymology of
    "borscht."

    4. PLEASE comment if this soup gets you on Jeopardy!.

    Thanks.

    From: http://lucysspleen.blogs.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 4 20:10:10 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a
    bit as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need
    of a few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not
    be concerned with getting a dish back to us.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.

    Great minds think alike. Bv)=

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Just checked with B.B. yesterday and they had an "open box" going for U$360 delivered. It will be here Tuesday.

    Sounds like a winner to me. Just make sure there's nothing holding the
    door even slightly open. A melt down is no fun to deal with. (G)


    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole,
    Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover – January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other
    cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or so
    they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 6 06:11:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole, Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover - January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.

    It's an anthology in one volume. As it says 10Coo Books in 1.

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or
    so they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

    I do likes me food. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sausage, Egg & Cheddar Farmers Breakfast
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    6 lg Eggs
    1/3 c Milk
    1/2 ts Dried parsley flakes
    1/4 ts Salt
    6 oz Pork sausage
    1 tb Butter
    1 1/2 c Diced hash brown potatoes;
    - thawed
    1/4 c Chopped onion
    1 c Shredded Cheddar cheese

    MMMMM--------------------------OPTIONAL-------------------------------
    Cooked, crumbled bacon
    Minced chives
    Halved cherry tomatoes

    Whisk eggs, milk, parsley and salt; set aside. In a
    9-in. cast-iron or other heavy skillet, cook sausage
    over medium heat until no longer pink; remove and drain.
    In same skillet, heat butter over medium heat. Add
    potatoes and onion; cook and stir until tender, 5-7
    minutes. Return sausage to pan.

    Add the egg mixture; cook and stir until almost set.
    Sprinkle with cheese. Cover and cook for 1-2 minutes
    until the cheese is melted. If desired, top with bacon,
    chives and cherry tomatoes.

    Bonnie Roberts, Newaygo, Michigan

    Makes: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 6 14:03:00 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole, Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover - January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.

    It's an anthology in one volume. As it says 10Coo Books in 1.

    OK, might be something I could get without too much trouble. (G)


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or
    so they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

    I do likes me food. Bv)=

    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 8 04:55:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    I see on the NOAA and Weather Channel that Debby has Raleigh on her path.
    You guys are pretty close to there so brace yourselves.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Justin & Christine's Hurricane Pork
    Categories: Pork, Curry, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servigns

    3 tb Butter
    3 tb Maple syrup
    2 ts Curry powder
    2 ts Colman's ground mustard
    2 c Ginger ale; divided
    1 lb Pork tenderloin
    16 oz Bag baby carrots
    Salt & ground black pepper

    Melt butter in a small saucepan over medium-low heat;
    stir maple syrup, curry powder, and ground mustard into
    butter until smooth. Pour 1/4 cup ginger ale into butter
    mixture. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 2 minutes.

    Place pork tenderloin into a slow cooker and spread
    carrots over pork; pour remaining ginger ale over meat
    and carrots. Pour the butter syrup over the top.

    Cover and cook on Low for 8 hours. Season with salt and
    black pepper.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.allrecipes.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Thu Aug 8 09:45:00 2024
    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never making >them. Too sweet by far for me.

    I don't much care for them, either, at least not the way we Americans make them. I have had sweet potatoes in an Indian dish or two and they are not
    bad the way they prepare them... they don't really seem too sweet at all.

    Mike


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 8 12:27:45 2024
    Hi Carol,


    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on
    never making them. Too sweet by far for me.

    Same here, but I will bake one now and then for Steve, as long as
    there's an Irish (white) potato to bake for myself.

    How's your breadmaking going these days? I've gotten better and
    better at it.

    I've not done too much of it lately, need to clear away some of the
    stuff that's accumulated in the corner of the counter where I keep my
    mixer. Thought we had a lot more stowage in this kitchen than the rental
    house, but really don't, so odds and ends that have no other place wind
    up there, until I find a nook or cranny for them. Maybe try now, so that
    when the weather cools off/drys out, I'll be able to access the mixer
    easier.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 8 12:55:08 2024
    Hi Dave,


    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    I see on the NOAA and Weather Channel that Debby has Raleigh on her
    path. You guys are pretty close to there so brace yourselves.

    Debby took a turn to the west so we're getting the dirty (as one
    forecaster put it) side. Tornado watch in effect until 9 pm, so far
    (since midnight) about 3.5" of rain, flash flood warnings for several
    days but rain is supposed to end tomorrow afternoon. We're watching
    closly as we don't have the camper right now.

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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 9 05:25:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to CAROL SHENKENBERGER <=-

    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never
    aking
    them. Too sweet by far for me.

    I don't much care for them, either, at least not the way we Americans
    make them. I have had sweet potatoes in an Indian dish or two and they are not bad the way they prepare them... they don't really seem too
    sweet at all.

    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking) as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

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    Title: Carrot Souffle
    Categories: Vegetable, Eggs, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    4 lg Carrots; peeled, cooked,
    - in cubes
    3 lg Eggs
    1 1/4 c Milk
    1/2 c Cheddar cheese
    3 tb Flour
    3 tb Butter; melted
    1 ts Salt

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    In a blender, mix everything together. Pour the mixture
    into a greased casserole.

    Bake, uncovered, in the pre heated oven until done,
    approximately 1 hour.

    Recipe: Kathleen Herold of the Richmond/Rosenburg area,
    Texas

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sat Aug 10 10:24:00 2024
    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking) as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

    Back 20 years ago or so, a co-worker was trying to get me involved in the juicing craze. He may have been selling juicers as part of some scheme, I don't recall. I did watch a video or two about it and the pitchman
    mentioned using either carrots or apples in your juice recipes in order to
    add sweetness.

    Mike

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 7 16:09:16 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 02 2024 02:43 pm


    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never making them. Too sweet by far for me.

    How's your breadmaking going these days? I've gotten better and better at it.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 10 12:28:19 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 08 2024 12:27 pm


    Ah I still bake breas once a week for us and Charlotte when she's home, Last bake was a nice butternilk bread, Made 1 freeform and 4 bagettes and some subs. It's just about out now. I turned come of it into shelf stable stuffing.

    xxcarol
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