• WROPIC EIC EIC Echolist Update

    From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Aug 2 20:54:34 2023
    Hello Wilfred!

    Wednesday August 02 2023 18:24, you wrote to me:

    In the previous edition it was ok...

    Update rerun and seems to be correct.

    I have no idea why this happened for this area as the other
    updates appears to be ok - unless you know different.

    I didn't notice anything.

    Please advise if you find any other oddities.

    Will do. But you could use for instance https://winmerge.org/ (like I
    do) before you publish. It takes like 1 minute to do a side by side
    compare between the previous and latest versions, and spot these
    differences quite easily! ;-)

    Nope, for *nix there is a very good tool - kdiff3 but did not need it.



    I seem to recall this has happened in the past for THIS echo,
    most odd.

    Your memory is correct. It happend 2 months ago for this same area...


    If there are 5 weather reports for 10 locations a day, this could be a realistic number. Personally I don't see the need for these kinds of
    areas. If I want to know the weather for any place on earth I just
    look on the web for up to date information...

    Totally agreed - plus weather moves faster than the emails.

    Now found two errors that could well have caused this problem so fixed and recompiled and installed the program.
    I will take a look at the version that ran on the Pi to see if it was fixed there - in which case I will get very annoyed with myself as there is no
    excuse for sloppiness in programming or s/w management.

    Although my excuse could be my age.

    Now to see if it fixes it -
    I have resubmitted the dropped good ? echos :

    SECURITY
    UKNEWS
    HUMOR

    IMECHO I did not do so as there is zero traffic for that.

    Will try and remember if these expire next year I will leave them alone. Possibly some more that now sits under the BACKBONE banner.

    Problem with mbse (that uses JAM), is there is no statistics available for echo
    areas.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.3/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Thu Aug 3 09:36:06 2023
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-08-02 20:54:34, you wrote to me:

    But you could use for instance https://winmerge.org/ (like I do) before
    you publish. It takes like 1 minute to do a side by side compare
    between the previous and latest versions, and spot these differences
    quite easily! ;-)

    Nope, for *nix there is a very good tool - kdiff3 but did not need it.

    On linux I'm using https://meldmerge.org/
    I think it looks more pretty than kdiff3! ;-)

    Now found two errors that could well have caused this problem so fixed
    and recompiled and installed the program. I will take a look at the version that ran on the Pi to see if it was fixed there - in which
    case I will get very annoyed with myself as there is no excuse for sloppiness in programming or s/w management.

    Although my excuse could be my age.

    ;-)

    Now to see if it fixes it -
    I have resubmitted the dropped good ? echos :

    SECURITY
    UKNEWS
    HUMOR

    IMECHO I did not do so as there is zero traffic for that.

    Will try and remember if these expire next year I will leave them alone. Possibly some more that now sits under the BACKBONE banner.

    Isn't that what the BACKBONE list is for? So you shouldn't meddle with what the moderators of the area meant to do?

    Problem with mbse (that uses JAM), is there is no statistics available
    for echo areas.

    I don't use or know any such tools, but there probably are statistics tools available for JAM message bases...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Aug 3 17:25:38 2023
    Hello Wilfred!

    Thursday August 03 2023 09:36, you wrote to me:

    Will try and remember if these expire next year I will leave them
    alone. Possibly some more that now sits under the BACKBONE
    banner.

    Isn't that what the BACKBONE list is for? So you shouldn't meddle with
    what the moderators of the area meant to do?

    The backbone hold ALL available echos which includes those that are
    'moderated' how ever ones that expire are moved to the backbone unmoderated.

    The small drawback to all this is that echos that have zero traffic are still there. So at sometime will have to look through my echos here and see if any are zero traffic. Problem with this is that I cleared out dead wood last year so that might be a bit tricky.

    There again I will wait for sysops to report zero traffic echos on the backbone
    and them remove them.

    Problem with mbse (that uses JAM), is there is no statistics
    available for echo areas.

    I don't use or know any such tools, but there probably are statistics
    tools available for JAM message bases...

    Yes, under the Husky banner but I have never been able to compile them without errors. The husy system is a bit - err, broke at least for me. Again age could be an issue :(



    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.3/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Vincent Coen on Thu Aug 3 18:46:47 2023
    Hi Vincent,

    On 2023-08-03 17:25:38, you wrote to me:

    Problem with mbse (that uses JAM), is there is no statistics
    available for echo areas.

    I don't use or know any such tools, but there probably are statistics
    tools available for JAM message bases...

    Yes, under the Husky banner but I have never been able to compile them without errors. The husy system is a bit - err, broke at least for me. Again age could be an issue :(

    Compiling is a bit tricky because of the separate modules, which needs to happen in the right order. But they have improved the documentation and make files for this in the last couple of years...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.2.0.0
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)