Here's my wishlist, in order. I know perfectly well that I cannot nominate anyone on the list unless I get a confirmation, I just want to share my thoughts based on 30+ years of *C experience in our network. Take it or leave it.

#1 Michiel van der Vlist, (2:280/5555)
No presentation needed. The FTSC chair for years, eventually got tired of the political bullshit and resigned.

#2 Pavel Gulchouck, (2:463/68)
His nodelist search engine is still maintained and he still seems to be part of the binkd project.

#3 Wilfred van Velzen, (2:280/464)
Always willing to help, sharing his huge experience, wherever help is needed.

#3.5 Oli, (2:280/464.47)
One of Wilfred's point ops. No real name, not nodelisted, just saying, he's a keeper...

#4 Tommi Koivula, (2:221/360)
What he does not know about most of the modern software in use today is not worth knowing.

#5 Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin, (2:5020/545)
Always a PITA wherever Ignoramus rears it's ugly head, always very alert and knowledgeable.

#6 Ulrich Schroeter, (2:240/1120)
Maintainer of the Zone2 pointlist, that never seem to miss the weekly report.





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Björn Felten wrote to All <=-

Here's my wishlist, in order. I know perfectly well that I cannot
nominate anyone on the list unless I get a confirmation, I just
want to share my thoughts based on 30+ years of *C experience in
our network. Take it or leave it.

#1 Michiel van der Vlist, (2:280/5555)
No presentation needed. The FTSC chair for years, eventually
got tired of the political bullshit and resigned.

#2 Pavel Gulchouck, (2:463/68)
His nodelist search engine is still maintained and he still
seems to be part of the binkd project.

#3 Wilfred van Velzen, (2:280/464)
Always willing to help, sharing his huge experience, wherever
help is needed.

#3.5 Oli, (2:280/464.47)
One of Wilfred's point ops. No real name, not nodelisted, just
saying, he's a keeper...

#4 Tommi Koivula, (2:221/360)
What he does not know about most of the modern software in use
today is not worth knowing.

#5 Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin, (2:5020/545)
Always a PITA wherever Ignoramus rears it's ugly head, always
very alert and knowledgeable.

#6 Ulrich Schroeter, (2:240/1120)
Maintainer of the Zone2 pointlist, that never seem to miss the
weekly report.

Could you please provide a brief summary of each of these folks' Fidonet software development contributions? I ask that because based on #5's
raging hard-on for that qualification in others, it seems only fair to
"vett" them all by that standard, right?

Thanks!



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Good ${greeting_time}, Dan!

14 Feb 2022 10:26:00, you wrote to Björn Felten:

Could you please provide a brief summary of each of these folks'
Fidonet software development contributions? I ask that because
based on #5's raging hard-on for that qualification in others, it
seems only fair to "vett" them all by that standard, right?

I can provide that myself. The primary answer is HPT (and the Husky project in whole), others are binkd and golded.

My first commit to hpt was

commit 2f5ea9abb991bb20d66c3a7c6c9cf873a0c0ddc7
Author: Gremlin from Kremlin <grsf ÅÉê users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Thu Jul 2 08:06:14 2009 +0000
Added .spec files for RPM automated build

Two most significant contributions were the addition of hub-based route rules generator (originally by (R.I.P.) Yury Safronov) with built-in hpt support:

commit c676e40ec614d02d7bf627816397ba32f075ce1e
Author: Gremlin from Kremlin <grsf ÅÉê users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:33:21 2009 +0000
incorporated "fidoroute" (former "safrouter") tool

and the support for a multi-homed installation with reduced privileges:

commit b26d6ab6727ea9994c77e443e50b272127159bff
Author: Gremlin from Kremlin <grsf ÅÉê users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Wed Sep 23 11:00:19 2009 +0000
add -c config.file option

commit 178c2f7fe18967e43ad33212493fd95a1b214407
Author: Gremlin from Kremlin <grsf ÅÉê users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Mon Apr 12 06:34:24 2010 +0000
fixed RPM building as non-root user

etc.

However, I've resigned FTSC (didn't go for the next term once the previous had expired) and don't see any reasons to return - at least until it will become T again.


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Could you please provide a brief summary of each of these folks' Fidonet software development contributions?

That's a new one. Usually the candidates themselves are providing such info.



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Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Could you please provide a brief summary of each of these folks'
Fidonet software development contributions? I ask that because
based on #5's raging hard-on for that qualification in others, it
seems only fair to "vett" them all by that standard, right?

I can provide that myself. The primary answer is HPT (and the
Husky project in whole), others are binkd and golded.

My first commit to hpt was

commit 2f5ea9abb991bb20d66c3a7c6c9cf873a0c0ddc7
Author: Gremlin from Kremlin <grsf ÅÉê users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Thu Jul 2 08:06:14 2009 +0000
Added .spec files for RPM automated build

<SNIP some more commits>

However, I've resigned FTSC (didn't go for the next term once the
previous had expired) and don't see any reasons to return - at
least until it will become T again.

Okay, it certainly seems that you meet the "qualification" of having
developed some FTN software. My biggest point in my question to Bjorn
was that most (all?) of the other candidates on his "wishlist" would
*NOT* meet that qualification, which seems silly in the first place.
Why would documenting standards and practices in FidoNet require
programming skills? This insistence on such a qualification seems to
come largely from.... you.



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On 15 Feb 22 07:50:00, Dan Clough said the following to Alexey Vissarionov:

Why would documenting standards and practices in FidoNet require programming skills? This insistence on such a qualification seems to
come largely from.... you.

To be fair, theres a good reason why.

Someone who has a solid programming background in FTN/Fido software makes it easier to collaborate with updating the remaining FTS documents that maybe
need some clarification because the wording isn't "clear". Someone elected who does not have any current contribution in FTN or has nothing to show but boasting will only be able to contribute a political opinion. That opinion
may of been insightful in the 90's but not now.

Its why it makes sense to reduce the membership from 7 down to lets say 5 or maybe even 3, and up the tech-skill requirement over casual-skills.

There is also the misconception today by some that the FTSC should invent new standards or be the Standards Police. By solely electing developers over has-beens and politicians it stops this from happening.

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 15 Feb 22 07:50:00, Dan Clough said the following to Alexey Vissarionov:

Why would documenting standards and practices in FidoNet require programming skills? This insistence on such a qualification seems to
come largely from.... you.

To be fair, theres a good reason why.

Someone who has a solid programming background in FTN/Fido
software makes it easier to collaborate with updating the
remaining FTS documents that maybe need some clarification
because the wording isn't "clear". Someone elected who does not
have any current contribution in FTN or has nothing to show but
boasting will only be able to contribute a political opinion.
That opinion may of been insightful in the 90's but not now.

Its why it makes sense to reduce the membership from 7 down to
lets say 5 or maybe even 3, and up the tech-skill requirement
over casual-skills.

There is also the misconception today by some that the FTSC
should invent new standards or be the Standards Police. By solely
electing developers over has-beens and politicians it stops this
from happening.

I'm not sure I agree with all of that, or even follow the thought
process involved.... but, I will defer to your judgement on it.
Thanks for the (civil) response.



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Hello Nick,

15 Feb 22 09:30, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Its why it makes sense to reduce the membership from 7 down to lets
say 5 or maybe even 3, and up the tech-skill requirement over casual-skills.

Perhaps we should remove the language in the FTSC charter that allows "invited guests" like Ward who have zero technical knowledge of FTN technology but are allowed into the FTSC to insult and slander people they don't like.

Alexey and I may not see eye-to-eye but at least I know Alexey can explain technical information correctly and have an in-depth discussion without BSing about his knowledge. This not only goes for Alexey but other elected members of the FTSC.

All I have ever seen Ward do in the FTSC as my being a member of the FTSC is what Ward does best: slander and insult. I have never seen him contribute anything technically worthwhile to any coversation that I had read in the FTSC in all the times I have been a member. He has simply added noise to the conversational signal-to-noise ratio in the FTSC.

If the FTSC wants to be taken seriously, perhaps it needs to do its job and get rid of extraneous people like Ward who has never been a sitting member of the FTSC in my time around it and start examining the proposals it already has before it before accepting more.

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