Hi Fabio,

On 2024-03-09 12:27:54, you wrote to All:

this is the charcter encoding test with putty as I wrote in my
previous message:

all italian accented letters here:

▀ - i with accent
▀ - e with accent
▀ - e with open accent
█ - o with accent
▀ - a with accent
█ - u with accent

This is how it looks for me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/d80f1de33867

But I don't have an utf-8 compatible setup...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred,

On Saturday March 09 2024 16:56, you wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

▀ - i with accent
▀ - e with accent
▀ - e with open accent
█ - o with accent
▀ - a with accent
█ - u with accent

This is how it looks for me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/d80f1de33867

But I don't have an utf-8 compatible setup...

Same here and I have a setup that can display those characters correctly,


Cheers, Michiel

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09 Mar 2024 12:27, you wrote to All:

@CHRS: UTF-8 2

all italian accented letters here:

∞ - i with accent
Φ - e with accent
Θ - e with open accent
≥ - o with accent
α - a with accent
∙ - u with accent

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

Carlos

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Hello Wilfred!

Saturday March 09 2024 16:56, you wrote to me:

This is how it looks for me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/d80f1de33867

But I don't have an utf-8 compatible setup...

Thank you Wilfred. :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello Michiel!

Saturday March 09 2024 17:14, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

[...]

Same here and I have a setup that can display those characters
correctly,

Can you help me with my setup Michiel?

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello Carlos!

Saturday March 09 2024 18:29, you wrote to me:

09 Mar 2024 12:27, you wrote to All:

@CHRS: UTF-8 2

all italian accented letters here:

� - i with accent
� - e with accent
� - e with open accent
� - o with accent
� - a with accent
� - u with accent

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

How can I see that is LATIN-1?

Many thanks. :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello, Carlos!

Saturday March 09 2024 18:29, from Carlos Navarro -> Fabio Bizzi:

@CHRS: UTF-8 2
all italian accented letters here:
∞ - i with accent
Φ - e with accent
Θ - e with open accent
? - o with accent
α - a with accent
∙ - u with accent

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

I am not sure which Latin flavor it was, one or two, or three haha or CP-something, but I can tell for sure that it was 8-byte encoding and not UTF-8.

Best Regards, Nil
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Re: Charcter encoding nightmare 2
By: Fabio Bizzi to All on Sat Mar 09 2024 12:27 pm

Hello All!

this is the charcter encoding test with putty as I wrote in my previous message:

all italian accented letters here:

¡ - i with accent
¡ - e with accent
¡ - e with open accent
¡ - o with accent
¡ - a with accent
¡ - u with accent

Here's how it appeared when viewed using SyncTERM v1.2b attached to a Synchronet v3.20 BBS:
https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/9c2b9c8902de
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Hello Fabio,

On Saturday March 09 2024 19:37, you wrote to me:

Same here and I have a setup that can display those characters
correctly,

Can you help me with my setup Michiel?

I am afraid not. I see that your game is Linux. I know little or nothing about Linux. Windows is the game here.


Cheers, Michiel

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Re: Charcter encoding nightmare 2
By: Fabio Bizzi to All on Sat Mar 09 2024 12:27 pm

Hello All!

this is the charcter encoding test with putty as I wrote in my previous message:

all italian accented letters here:

ì - i with accent
è - e with accent
é - e with open accent
ò - o with accent
à - a with accent
ù - u with accent

And here it is view using OpenSSH Client: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/9ccf52d05942

My guess: the original message wasn't actually UTF-8 encoded (?)
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Hello Rob.

09 Mar 24 14:27, you wrote to Fabio Bizzi:

Hello All!

this is the charcter encoding test with putty as I wrote in my
previous message:

all italian accented letters here:

ì - i with accent
è - e with accent
é - e with open accent
├▓ - o with accent
à - a with accent
├╣ - u with accent

And here it is view using OpenSSH Client: https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/9ccf52d05942

My guess: the original message wasn't actually UTF-8 encoded (?)

Your guess it correct. See my answer for your previous message.

Vitaliy

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09 Mar 2024 19:38, you wrote to me:

∞ - i with accent
Φ - e with accent
Θ - e with open accent
≥ - o with accent
α - a with accent
∙ - u with accent

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

How can I see that is LATIN-1?

I did by pressing Ctrl-J and selecting LATIN-1 to view it properly. (In my GoldED+ setup I have conversions to CP850 from CP437, LATIN-1 and Michiel's partial UTF-8.)

You can check that it is LATIN-1 by viewing the hexdump (Alt-I) of your message. You will see that, for example, the first one (∞, lowercase i with grave accent) is hex EC. That's ISO-8859-1 (or CP1252) AKA Fidonet LATIN-1.

Carlos

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09 Mar 2024 23:19, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to you:

Can you help me with my setup Michiel?

I am afraid not. I see that your game is Linux. I know little or
nothing about Linux. Windows is the game here.

Fabio,

If your terminal is set to ISO-8859-1, you may be interested in checking what I posted here on 1.1.2023. I made the equivalent of Michiel's CP850<->UTF-8 chs files, but for LATIN-1<->UTF-8.

Carlos

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Hello Carlos!

Sunday March 10 2024 08:45, you wrote to me:

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

How can I see that is LATIN-1?

I did by pressing Ctrl-J and selecting LATIN-1 to view it properly.
(In my GoldED+ setup I have conversions to CP850 from CP437, LATIN-1
and Michiel's partial UTF-8.)

Got it!
Many thanks! :)

You can check that it is LATIN-1 by viewing the hexdump (Alt-I) of
your message. You will see that, for example, the first one (ì,
lowercase i with grave accent) is hex EC. That's ISO-8859-1 (or
CP1252) AKA Fidonet LATIN-1.

Ok, I'll google for characters encoding tables. :)

GRAZIE CARLOS! :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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Hello Carlos!

Sunday March 10 2024 08:55, you wrote to me:

Fabio,

If your terminal is set to ISO-8859-1, you may be interested in
checking what I posted here on 1.1.2023. I made the equivalent of Michiel's CP850<->UTF-8 chs files, but for LATIN-1<->UTF-8.

Ok, now my setup is with your translation tables.

Did you see my accented letters?

àèéìòù

Many thanks! :)

Ciao!
Fabio

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10 Mar 2024 10:06, you wrote to me:

If your terminal is set to ISO-8859-1, you may be interested in
checking what I posted here on 1.1.2023. I made the equivalent of
Michiel's CP850<->UTF-8 chs files, but for LATIN-1<->UTF-8.

Ok, now my setup is with your translation tables.

Did you see my accented letters?

àèéìòù

Yes, looks fine. You should also see them ok when quoted.

Many thanks! :)

You're welcome.

Carlos

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Hello Fabio,

On Sunday March 10 2024 10:06, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

Ok, now my setup is with your translation tables.

Did you see my accented letters?

àèéìòù

I see them. :-)


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello, Carlos!

Sunday March 10 2024 08:45, from Carlos Navarro -> Fabio Bizzi:

I did by pressing Ctrl-J and selecting LATIN-1 to view it properly.

I wonder what ctrl-j would show once Vitaliy adds the iconv instead of charset maps. Probably, iconv --list? ;-))

Best Regards, Nil
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Hello Fabio.

09 Mar 24 19:38, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

∞ - i with accent
Φ - e with accent
Θ - e with open accent
≥ - o with accent
α - a with accent
∙ - u with accent

It could be broken in my response, because I've converted it to KOI8-R. :)

Your CHRS kludge says UTF-8 but the body text is LATIN-1.

To make it correct - you need to have XLatExport set correctly.

How can I see that is LATIN-1?

Do two things:
1) check what CHRS kludge is set for that message (press K in message reader). 2) Press I and it will show you hexdump of the message. Then you may check if actual bytes are correct.

Vitaliy

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