Hello again,

I was able to set up Jamnntpd as a service, can read the Jam messagebase, and now am trying to post a message using Mozilla Thunderbird.

Now I am getting an error message saying the posting failed as UTF-8 is not supported.. I triple-checked and Thunderbird is configured to use LATIN-1 and also the config files are using LATIN-1 for that specific area.

Should I download the utf-8 chrs file and add it to the jamnntpd.xlat config?

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On 21 Feb 2022 18.07, Flavio Bessa wrote:

Now I am getting an error message saying the posting failed as UTF-8
is not supported.. I triple-checked and Thunderbird is configured to
use LATIN-1 and also the config files are using LATIN-1 for that
specific area.

Should I download the utf-8 chrs file and add it to the jamnntpd.xlat
config?

All I did was to add these lines:

read UTF-8 utf-8
post utf-8 UTF-8


Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post messages in utf-8. Annoying...

'Tommi

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On 21 Feb 2022, Tommi Koivula said the following...

All I did was to add these lines:

read UTF-8 utf-8
post utf-8 UTF-8

Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post messages in utf-8. Annoying...

Thanks, I will give it a try.

Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for Mac.

I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

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Flavio wrote (2022-02-22):

On 21 Feb 2022, Tommi Koivula said the following...

All I did was to add these lines:

read UTF-8 utf-8
post utf-8 UTF-8

Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post
messages in utf-8. Annoying...

Thanks, I will give it a try.

That should work. I have the same configuration and no problems with posting UTF-8 messages.

Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for
Mac.

I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

Looks like this 'feature' has been introduced by Firefox:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ps6gxp/is_text_encoding_options_gone/

I haven't used the newer Thunderbird versions. Does it always use UTF-8 even if the text in the mail is only 7-bit ASCII?

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That should work. I have the same configuration and no problems with posting UTF-8 messages.

FB> Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for
FB> Mac.

FB> I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

Looks like this 'feature' has been introduced by Firefox:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ps6gxp/is_text_encoding_options_gone/

I haven't used the newer Thunderbird versions. Does it always use UTF-8 even if the text in the mail is only 7-bit ASCII?

I have the newest TB in this computer. This always posts UTF-8. :(

However, if the message is plain 7 bit ascii, the CHRS kludge really doesn't matter. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

21 Feb 2022 20:59, Tommi Koivula wrote to Flavio Bessa:

use LATIN-1 and also the config files are using LATIN-1 for that
specific area.

Should I download the utf-8 chrs file and add it to the jamnntpd.xlat
config?

All I did was to add these lines:

read UTF-8 utf-8
post utf-8 UTF-8

Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post messages in utf-8. Annoying...

in fidonet its only iso8859-1

as LATIN-1, jamnntpd is good, but it does not solve clents not understanding what utf-8 is

so imho "post utf-8 utf-8" should be "post utf-8 latin-1"

as i remember it

that will convert all to utf-8 ready for thunderbird, and give it back to fidonet clients as latin-1, setup latin-1 as default write in thunderbird. best of 2 diffrents worlds


Regards Benny

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Benny wrote (2022-03-28):

All I did was to add these lines:

read UTF-8 utf-8
post utf-8 UTF-8

Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post
messages in utf-8. Annoying...

in fidonet its only iso8859-1

as LATIN-1, jamnntpd is good, but it does not solve clents not understanding what utf-8 is

We cannot avoid UTF-8 forever.

so imho "post utf-8 utf-8" should be "post utf-8 latin-1"

as i remember it

that will convert all to utf-8 ready for thunderbird, and give it back to fidonet clients as latin-1, setup latin-1 as default write in
thunderbird. best of 2 diffrents worlds

No, it won't work without a proper xlat file as parameter. The only thing you will get is UTF-8 text with the wrong charset set (= garbage).

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Hello Oli!

29 Mar 2022 08:39, Oli wrote to Benny Pedersen:

We cannot avoid UTF-8 forever.

or make idn default :)

html did not solve it either

No, it won't work without a proper xlat file as parameter. The only
thing you will get is UTF-8 text with the wrong charset set (=
garbage).

yep all detail must work

that why i make fun of html


Regards Benny

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