On 2.2.2021 5.31, August Abolins wrote:

I'm not connected to any areas this point, but I want to see if this will get delivered.

Oh, you are connected. If not, you cannot post. ;)

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'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

** On Tuesday 02.02.21 - 16:06, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

Oh, you are connected. If not, you cannot post. ;)

Passive areas on 2:221/1.59:
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12 areas linked

AH! I put the areas on hold. But I can still post to them.
That's pretty good.
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Hi August.

02 Feb 21 08:31, you wrote to Alan:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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'Tommi

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Tommi wrote (2021-02-02):

Hi August.

02 Feb 21 08:31, you wrote to Alan:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

Bug in Winpoint? Alan's mail have @TZUTC: +0400, but he is a point of some Canadian node.

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Hello Tommi!

** On Tuesday 02.02.21 - 17:34, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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It most probably should be. This bug should also probably be
added to the CONS section in..

https://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/points/

I recall playing around with my local time here and found out
that Winpoint never inserts a minus for TZ.


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Hello Tommi!

*** Tuesday 02.02.21 at 17:34, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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Yes, it's a known bug in WinPoint but thanks for jogging my memory ;)

Regards,
Martin

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@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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Yes, it's a known bug in WinPoint but thanks for jogging my memory ;)

Hopefully the Dale Barnes fellow (re-writing Winpoint) would see this too.
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Hello Oli!

*** Tuesday 02.02.21 at 17:51, Oli wrote to Tommi Koivula:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

Bug in Winpoint?

Yes, it is.

Alan's mail have @TZUTC: +0400, but he is a point of some Canadian
node.

The fact that he's pointing off a Canadian Node doesn't mean to say that
his mail was written in Canada.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

*** Wednesday 03.02.21 at 09:35, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

@TZUTC: 0500

Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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Yes, it's a known bug in WinPoint but thanks for jogging my memory ;)

Hopefully the Dale Barnes fellow (re-writing Winpoint) would see this
too.

Hopefully, he will also have seen my bug report(s) which I sent him by
crash netmail.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

** On Thursday 04.02.21 - 11:30, Martin Foster wrote to Oli:

Alan's mail have @TZUTC: +0400, but he is a point of some
Canadian node.

The fact that he's pointing off a Canadian Node doesn't
mean to say that his mail was written in Canada.

But it would be nice for TZUTC to be grounded on when the
message was written, not where.

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Re: winpoint test
By: August Abolins to Martin Foster on Thu Feb 04 2021 07:55:00

But it would be nice for TZUTC to be grounded on when the
message was written, not where.

that would be just wrong... it is meant to convey the timezone of the system clock where the message is written... if the system clock is in UTC, then TZUTC 0000 would be proper... east coast USA is TZUTC -0500 during standard
time and TZUTC -0400 during daylight saving... this because it is the local system clock time that is saved in the message header...


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Hello mark!

** On Thursday 04.02.21 - 20:14, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

But it would be nice for TZUTC to be grounded on when the
message was written, not where.

that would be just wrong... it is meant to convey the
timezone of the system clock where the message is
written... if the system clock is in UTC, then TZUTC 0000
would be proper... east coast USA is TZUTC -0500 during
standard time and TZUTC -0400 during daylight saving...
this because it is the local system clock time that is
saved in the message header...

Nevermind. I communicated it wrong. But perhaps the tzutc could
reflect the time and zone, based on when *and* where, the author
actualy is.

So, Veleno's tzutc would make me appear in Italy, although I am
not. Where as, OpenXP's tzutc across my myriad of Boss systems
can pin-point my local time and timezone.

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Shouldn't that be -0500 ?

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Yes, it's a known bug in WinPoint but thanks for jogging my memory ;)

Hopefully the Dale Barnes fellow (re-writing Winpoint)
would see this too.

I have added it to the list but to be clear, I am not Re-Writing WinPoint, just helping it get updated and new versions released.

Currently working on the language, the compiler version has been moved to a much newer version. Tim has updated a few of the components in it. Updated Manual and help files. Will release the next version as soon as I have the above completed for the next beta.


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Hello Alan,

I'm not connected to any areas this point, but I want to see if this will get

-

delivered.

Yep it seems to have worked



s

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Hello All,

On Tuesday 02.02.21, I wrote wrote to Alan:

=======variables test========
% sendday = Tuesday: Original day of week
% tossday = Tuesday: Arrivel [sic] day of week
% storeday = Monday: Day of week
=====================

Hello Alan,

I'm not connected to any areas this point, but I want to see if this will get delivered.

../|ug

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It's been about a year since I last used Winpoint. Trying the new version. So far, so good! I like what I see.


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Hello August!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 1:05:47, August Abolins wrote to August Abolins:

AREA:POINTS
@MSGID: 2:221/1.59 33f6c408
@CHRS: LATIN-1 2
@TZUTC: -0500
@REPLY: 2:221/1.59 2bbd2c03
Hello All,

On Tuesday 02.02.21, I wrote wrote to Alan:

=======variables test========
% sendday = Tuesday: Original day of week % tossday = Tuesday: Arrivel [sic] day of week % storeday = Monday: Day of week
=====================

Hello Alan,

I'm not connected to any areas this point, but I want to see if this
will get delivered.

../|ug

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(2:221/1.59)

It's been about a year since I last used Winpoint. Trying the new
version. So far, so good! I like what I see.

Excellent! :-)

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Regards,
Martin
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