• USA's VP Candidate Debate

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Wed Oct 2 09:36:20 2024
    The VP debate was pretty good, and JD Vance had all the right answers, and Tim Walz had all the wrong ones.

    Tim Walz said he wants congress to fix the border, but we already know that congress won't. (strike against Tim Walz.)

    Tim Walz failed to explain a discrepancy over time he spent in China, not that anyone seems to care.

    When responding in a conversation about illegal immigration and the economy, Tim Walz said "We need the labor."

    Nora O'Donnell said she was covering "what's important to Americans" but she didn't ask them about the assassination attempts or the Biden-Harris admin's collusion with Zuckerberg to censor Americans. Those are pretty big topics that Nora didn't ask about.

    JD Vance brought that stuff up though, and I'm glad he did. Tim Walz looked like his mugshot photo throughout the debate, and Vance killed it. I am impressed.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 3 07:30:15 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Tim Walz failed to explain a discrepancy over time he spent in China,
    not that anyone seems to care.

    The media doesn't want to report on it and anyone else who cares knows that he's a liar anyway.

    When responding in a conversation about illegal immigration and the economy, Tim Walz said "We need the labor."

    More like "we need the cheap labor after having worked for decades to make American labor too expensive."

    Nora O'Donnell said she was covering "what's important to Americans"

    The Elitists always say the opposite of what they mean. So "important to Americans" really means "important to the Elitists".

    but she didn't ask them about the assassination attempts or the Biden-Harris admin's collusion with Zuckerberg to censor Americans.
    Those are pretty big topics that Nora didn't ask about.

    Of course. They've already memory-holed those. Only us "conspiracy theorists" remember them.

    JD Vance brought that stuff up though, and I'm glad he did. Tim Walz looked like his mugshot photo throughout the debate, and Vance killed
    it. I am impressed.

    Let's face it. Walz will always looked like his mugshot. The only 2 people dumber than him are AOC and Kamala.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 3 16:58:46 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    The VP debate was pretty good, and JD Vance had all the right answers, and Tim Walz had all the wrong ones.

    If last night's debate was for the title of America's Dancing Queen,
    JD Vance would have won it.

    Tim Walz said he wants congress to fix the border,

    The same as President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and
    most other Americans.

    but we already know that congress won't.

    The US Semate passed a comprehensive immigration bill, and the
    US House of Representatives was prepared to do the same, But your
    orange clown didn't like it so he got his Republican Speaker of
    the House to scuttle it.

    (strike against Tim Walz.)

    Walz had nothing to do with it, as he is not a member of Congress.
    However, he did mention during the debate that he is in favor of a comprehensive immigration reform being passed and signed into law.

    Tim Walz failed to explain a discrepancy over time he spent in China, not that anyone seems to care.

    He mispoke. Happens all the time when making public speeches.
    Sometimes even live and on camera.

    When responding in a conversation about illegal immigration and the economy,
    Tim Walz said "We need the labor."

    Of course we do. That is why our grocery stores are always stocked
    with foods from all over the place.

    Nora O'Donnell said she was covering "what's important to Americans" but she
    didn't ask them about the assassination attempts or the Biden-Harris admin's collusion with Zuckerberg to censor Americans. Those are pretty big
    topics that Nora didn't ask about.

    Nobody was interested. And Americans wanted to be entertained, not
    bored. So the debate continued ...

    JD Vance brought that stuff up though, and I'm glad he did.

    JD Vance did decide not to answer several questions. And Walz
    called him on it, as he should have.

    Tim Walz looked like his mugshot photo throughout the debate,

    Walz was not trying to win a beauty contest, which is why he has
    no mugshot photo to show anybody. However, Donald Trump does have
    a mugshot photo, provided courtesy of New York. You can even view
    it online - for free.

    and Vance killed it. I am impressed.

    Vance disqualified himself, by failing to certify the election
    results, showing us all he has no respect for our democracy or the
    American people.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Oct 3 09:50:00 2024
    Tim Walz said he wants congress to fix the border, but we already know that congress won't. (strike against Tim Walz.)

    Yes, because if the Republicans coauthor the deal and promise to pass it,
    they will go back on their word if their leader tells them it is bad.

    Nora O'Donnell said she was covering "what's important to Americans" but she didn't ask them about the assassination attempts or the Biden-Harris admin's collusion with Zuckerberg to censor Americans. Those are pretty big topics tha
    Nora didn't ask about.

    What would she have asked about the assassination attempt? "Do you think
    it was a good thing?"


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 3 10:41:30 2024
    Tim Walz said he wants congress to fix the border, but we already know t congress won't. (strike against Tim Walz.)

    Yes, because if the Republicans coauthor the deal and promise to pass it, they will go back on their word if their leader tells them it is bad.

    We all have a leader. House members can do whatever they want though, and they do not have to follow their leader.

    Example: Rep Molinaro voted against impeaching Biden, but Molinaro still picked up endorsement from Trump for 2024. Trump didn't hold a grudge against Molinaro for not doing whatever helps Trump.

    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lot of Trump's constituents were not. And Trump has a much deeper, more personal connection with his constituents than any house members do.

    Nora O'Donnell said she was covering "what's important to Americans" but didn't ask them about the assassination attempts or the Biden-Harris adm collusion with Zuckerberg to censor Americans. Those are pretty big topi tha
    Nora didn't ask about.

    What would she have asked about the assassination attempt? "Do you think it was a good thing?"

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Oct 3 16:43:26 2024
    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lot of Trump's constituents were not. And Trump has a much deeper, more personal connection with his constituents than any house members do.

    This right here is the biggest problem in governance today.

    A REPRESENTATIVE should be REPRESENTING the people, and thus have a closer connection to the constituency.

    These house and senate contests should be the ones that take up most of our time and energy.

    RS

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Randall Schad on Thu Oct 3 19:45:04 2024
    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lo Trump's constituents were not. And Trump has a much deeper, more pers connection with his constituents than any house members do.

    This right here is the biggest problem in governance today.

    A REPRESENTATIVE should be REPRESENTING the people, and thus have a
    closer connection to the constituency.

    These house and senate contests should be the ones that take up most of our time and energy.

    The reps should be keeping track of us, especially when we write to them.

    Everything I say to my rep goes in one ear and out the other. And he doesn't even reply, he has monkeys do it for him.

    They should have a tally on their desk of how many constituents want things 1 way, and another tally of how many want it another way.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Oct 4 10:18:00 2024
    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lot of Trump's constituents were not.

    For the vast majority of them, that was only after their Leader Trump told
    them NOT to like it. Period.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RANDALL SCHAD on Fri Oct 4 10:02:00 2024
    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lot of >AT> Trump's constituents were not. And Trump has a much deeper, more personal >AT> connection with his constituents than any house members do.

    This right here is the biggest problem in governance today.

    A REPRESENTATIVE should be REPRESENTING the people, and thus have a closer connection to the constituency.

    These house and senate contests should be the ones that take up most of our time and energy.

    Over the years, the Presidential race has been so noisey it is drowning out some of the other races that really matter. Maybe that is on purpose?


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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 4 16:21:34 2024
    On 04 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    These house and senate contests should be the ones that take up most of time and energy.

    Over the years, the Presidential race has been so noisey it is drowning out some of the other races that really matter. Maybe that is on
    purpose?

    You know, I got dragged along to a production of Hamilton last night. (I really don't like musicals, but I legit enjoyed it. Aaaanyway...)

    I had a similar thought during "The Room Where It Happens"

    "The art of the compromise
    Hold your nose and close your eyes
    We want our leaders to save the day
    But we don't get a say in what they trade away"

    Is "representation" our opium?

    RS

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 4 14:30:40 2024
    I know you were in favor of the border bill, but understand that a lot o Trump's constituents were not.

    For the vast majority of them, that was only after their Leader Trump
    told them NOT to like it. Period.

    You are the only person I know, besides Alan and maybe Bjorn, who was in favor of the border bill.

    How can you say "vast majority?" There's no clear information about which house members were affected by Trump's suggestion.

    Also, how can you call Trump their leader? Not all the house members are 100% loyal to Trump. Mike Johnson is their leader.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Oct 5 07:56:00 2024
    Also, how can you call Trump their leader? Not all the house members are 100% loyal to Trump. Mike Johnson is their leader.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Who, at that time, was a Trump lackey.

    Like I said, Trump takes credit for it. You either believe him or you are calling him a liar, and certainly the "rock" "chosen by God" isn't a liar, right?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RANDALL SCHAD on Sat Oct 5 08:13:00 2024
    Is "representation" our opium?

    Could be in the sense that they got us hooked on it and now it is difficult
    to get.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 5 12:13:10 2024
    Also, how can you call Trump their leader? Not all the house members are loyal to Trump. Mike Johnson is their leader.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Who, at that time, was a Trump lackey.

    Like I said, Trump takes credit for it. You either believe him or you
    are calling him a liar, and certainly the "rock" "chosen by God" isn't a liar, right?

    Trump is sarcastic sometimes and he's wrong sometimes too. I never said that someone who's chosen by God has to be perfect in every way.

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 5 17:55:26 2024
    On 05 Oct 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Like I said, Trump takes credit for it. You either believe him or yo are calling him a liar, and certainly the "rock" "chosen by God" isn' liar, right?

    Trump is sarcastic sometimes and he's wrong sometimes too. I never said that someone who's chosen by God has to be perfect in every way.

    This is uber-convenient.

    Two sentences? This might be a record:
    - A priori
    - Alternative truth
    - Appeal to Heaven
    - Blind Loyalty
    - Defensiveness
    - Moral Superiority
    - (Implied) Esoteric Wisdom
    - (Possible) Mala Fides
    - (On Deck) Taboo

    Yeah, I had to refer to the master list to get them all. Nobody's perfect.

    RS

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RANDALL SCHAD on Sun Oct 6 10:34:00 2024
    Trump is sarcastic sometimes and he's wrong sometimes too. I never said that someone who's chosen by God has to be perfect in every way.

    This is uber-convenient.

    Two sentences? This might be a record:
    - A priori
    - Alternative truth
    - Appeal to Heaven
    - Blind Loyalty
    - Defensiveness
    - Moral Superiority
    - (Implied) Esoteric Wisdom
    - (Possible) Mala Fides
    - (On Deck) Taboo

    Yeah, I had to refer to the master list to get them all. Nobody's perfect.

    I may work with John and see if there is a way we can get some of these worked into the echo description -- "a place of alternative truth, blind loyality, moral superioirity, and esoteric wisdom." ;)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Oct 7 14:42:56 2024
    Hello Aaron,

    Like I said, Trump takes credit for it. You either believe him or you
    are calling him a liar, and certainly the "rock" "chosen by God" isn't
    a liar, right?

    Trump is sarcastic sometimes and he's wrong sometimes too. I never said that
    someone who's chosen by God has to be perfect in every way.

    How many more innocent people will God klll for his imperfect Trump?

    And how many times a day will you continue to pray for the MF?

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Oct 7 07:58:28 2024
    Trump is sarcastic sometimes and he's wrong sometimes too. I never sa that
    someone who's chosen by God has to be perfect in every way.

    How many more innocent people will God klll for his imperfect Trump?

    God's not killing anyone for Trump. Democrats are killing people who stand in their way of killing Trump.

    And how many times a day will you continue to pray for the MF?

    At least once but sometimes twice.

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