In the months and weeks leading up to the election the democratic machine threw everything that had at Trump.
From ridiculous court cases from New York to Florida.
They tried to do their best to bog him down in court, so he couldn't campaign.

Lets be clear this was an effort to silence Trump and his message.
They tried to convince the American voter using a very brush of their hateful message of disgust, while at the same time promoting fear.

All of what was said by these people on the left was a lie
- We were told that the border is secure, repeatedly. It was not.
- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not.
- Inflation is under control. Not a chance.
- Gas prices are down. Nope.
Not one single solitary comment from ANY democratic mouthpiece was true. Every diabolical idea they cooked up to stop Trump failed dramatically.

Americans are Strong and Resourceful they do not like weakness.
Biden had far to many of these moments
- the man projected weakness.
* the way he spoke and even moved, shuffling along barely picking up his feet * when he walked, it was completely embarrassing.

This is why Biden was removed and replaced.
Harris spoke in terms using word salad.
Her words were spoken with an overdose of sarcasm and it sounded adversarial, w/ an racially condemning motivated tone that was very divisive and unfriendly causing fake victim-hood at every turn. and that cackle. Seriously?
This is a exactly how many saw her, consequently this is why she was beaten in a Big League way. Good Riddance Hoe!

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In the months and weeks leading up to the election the democratic machine threw everything that had at Trump.

Of course they did.

From ridiculous court cases from New York to Florida.

Those court cases (now on ice but cases all the same) are far from ridiculous.

Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

He was/is charged with trying to overturn to 2020 election, among other things.

he pled the 5th ~450 times in New York!

They tried to do their best to bog him down in court, so he couldn't campaign.

They did not. Democrats had no hand in those charges. Donald trump was charged with crimes in the same way any American would be charged with any crimes.

Lets be clear this was an effort to silence Trump and his message.

Nope, Donnie had no problem getting his message out. The DOJ gave him every opportunity to carry on his campaign in spite of the charges. He held rallies (many of them) on a constant basis.

They tried to convince the American voter using a very brush of their hateful message of disgust, while at the same time promoting fear.

It is Donald Trump who gives hateful messages.

They are eating the dogs, they are eating the cats, they are eating the pets! Of course it is all lies.

All of what was said by these people on the left was a lie
- We were told that the border is secure, repeatedly. It was not.

I guess that depends on what you consider a secure border. None of the republican/gop/trump narrative around the border is true, never was.

- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not.

You are talking about the cost of living.

The US economy under Biden did very well. I just read the DOW is down 500 points. That is because of Trumps talk of tarrif's and deportations. Te US economy has been taking a hit since the news of Donnie's election win.

- Inflation is under control. Not a chance.

Inflation has been down under Biden. If Donnie continues with tarriff's and deportations it will be inflationary.

- Gas prices are down. Nope.

The cost of living is not going to go down in spite of DJT's promises. He is a common liar.

Not one single solitary comment from ANY democratic mouthpiece was true. Every diabolical idea they cooked up to stop Trump failed dramatically.

What diabolical idea do you speak of?

Americans are Strong and Resourceful they do not like weakness.

They will have to be.

Biden had far to many of these moments
- the man projected weakness.
* the way he spoke and even moved, shuffling along barely picking up his
feet when he walked, it was completely embarrassing.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

This is why Biden was removed and replaced.

Biden was not removed or replaced.

Harris spoke in terms using word salad.

Harris is a good speaker. She was always clear and honest.

Her words were spoken with an overdose of sarcasm and it sounded adversarial, w/ an racially condemning motivated tone that was very divisive and unfriendly causing fake victim-hood at every turn.

I don't recall any divisiveness in her speeches.

Maybe you don't like or agree with her, but she was not divisive.

Donald Trump on the other hand, he is a divisive character.

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Americans are Strong and Resourceful they do not like weakness.
Biden had far to many of these moments

I was scared! I thought our country was full of brainwashed dummies. It's not! We're a smart country!

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All of what was said by these people on the left was a lie
- We were told that the border is secure, repeatedly. It was not.

The media has even called them out on this one.

- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not.

And this one.

- Inflation is under control. Not a chance.

And this one.

- Gas prices are down. Nope.

They are actually going down here. It became more noticable after the election.

Harris spoke in terms using word salad.
Her words were spoken with an overdose of sarcasm and it sounded adversarial, w/ an racially condemning motivated tone that was very divisive and unfriendly
causing fake victim-hood at every turn. and that cackle. Seriously?
This is a exactly how many saw her, consequently this is why she was beaten in
a Big League way. Good Riddance Hoe!

They worked on her some, which was very much apparent in the days before
and during the debate. But she was not able to keep up those appearances,
and already had too many word salad moments on tape from before she was the nominee.


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Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

Letting Joe off for doing basically the same thing does not bode well for
this particular case. They need not waste any more tax money on this one
and pursue others. Otherwise, his defense team can argue that a precident
was set with Joe's case.

I guess that depends on what you consider a secure border. None of the republican/gop/trump narrative around the border is true, never was.

Except that the US media has started to confirm that things are not right
at the border, too.

- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not.

You are talking about the cost of living.

Yes and, as that is the part of the economy that has the most direct effect
on the voters, it is a very valid point.

- Gas prices are down. Nope.

The cost of living is not going to go down in spite of DJT's promises. He is a
common liar.

We will see.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

Only among those who want to wish it so. History will not likely be
so kind. The botched Afghanistan pull out, the lapse of peace agreements
in the Middle East, his debate performance that lead to his being replaced,
and Hunter's legal woes coupled with what might be the largest blaket
pardon in history will all tarnish that legacy.

This is why Biden was removed and replaced.

Biden was not removed or replaced.

If he had not "stepped down" he most certainly would have been replaced.
Enough megadonors have come forward to confirm this.

Harris spoke in terms using word salad.

Harris is a good speaker. She was always clear and honest.

You have not been paying attention. She uses smaller words and repeats
stuff alot, which is probably why you think so.


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Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

Letting Joe off for doing basically the same thing does not bode well for this particular case. They need not waste any more tax money on this one
and pursue others. Otherwise, his defense team can argue that a precident was set with Joe's case.

Trump was asked nicely for over a year to simply return the documents. He refused and told his layers to say "we have none".

Joe Biden returned all documents when they were found. There was no need for the FBI to execute a search warrant to obtain any stolen documents.

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

I guess that depends on what you consider a secure border. None of the
republican/gop/trump narrative around the border is true, never was.

Except that the US media has started to confirm that things are not right
at the border, too.

Oh, the media has confirmed it?

Well, now the GOP has a trifecta I assume they will correct any laws that need correcting and implement them?

It'll be interesting to see what congress/senate will do about these issues in the weeks ahead.

- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not.

You are talking about the cost of living.

Yes and, as that is the part of the economy that has the most direct effect on the voters, it is a very valid point.

True. The US economy has done well under biden in spite of corporate price gouging.

- Gas prices are down. Nope.

The cost of living is not going to go down in spite of DJT's promises. He is

a common liar.

We will see.

Indeed. Donald has already said it's hard to bring prices down after the election. Before the election he said he would bring prices down.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

Only among those who want to wish it so. History will not likely be
so kind.

History will be kinder to Biden than the American public.

The botched Afghanistan pull out,

That was a Trump plan. Biden got it done, trump didn't.

the lapse of peace agreements in the Middle East,

What peace agreement did Biden (or America) let lapse?

his debate performance that lead to his being replaced,

His debate performance was bad, but he was not replaced. He stepped down. He was pressured I think, but it was his choice.

and Hunter's legal woes coupled with what might be the largest blaket
pardon in history will all tarnish that legacy.

Hunter's legal woes matter not. Who is Hunter?

His pardon is regrettable but understandable.

Trumps pardons (past, present and future) are none of the above.

This is why Biden was removed and replaced.

Biden was not removed or replaced.

If he had not "stepped down" he most certainly would have been replaced. Enough megadonors have come forward to confirm this.

Biden did have the deligates, so I'm not sure he could have been replaced.

Can you imagine the GOP outrage if the DNC did replace him?

Harris spoke in terms using word salad.

Harris is a good speaker. She was always clear and honest.

You have not been paying attention. She uses smaller words and repeats
stuff alot, which is probably why you think so.

She didn't use words like deport?

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Trump was asked nicely for over a year to simply return the documents. He refused and told his layers to say "we have none".

Joe Biden returned all documents when they were found. There was no need for the FBI to execute a search warrant to obtain any stolen documents.

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

Per an NPR report from January 21, 2023, the FBI did indeed search Biden's
home in Wilmington and also did indeed find additional documents that Biden
had not fessed up to having.

Google "Did FBI search Biden property for documents" if you want to see it
for yourself.

I guess that depends on what you consider a secure border. None of the
republican/gop/trump narrative around the border is true, never was.

Except that the US media has started to confirm that things are not right at the border, too.

Oh, the media has confirmed it?

Well, now the GOP has a trifecta I assume they will correct any laws that need
correcting and implement them?

We can only hope.

The botched Afghanistan pull out,

That was a Trump plan. Biden got it done, trump didn't.

If I excecute an Ianson plan that I have been repeatedly told by advisors
and people on the ground is faulty, that makes it my fault.

and Hunter's legal woes coupled with what might be the largest blaket pardon in history will all tarnish that legacy.

Hunter's legal woes matter not. Who is Hunter?

His pardon is regrettable but understandable.

You could say they did not matter until the pardon. Then it all became a part of Joe's Presidential legacy.

Or was that pardon someone else's bad plan that Biden simply executed?

This is why Biden was removed and replaced.

Biden was not removed or replaced.

If he had not "stepped down" he most certainly would have been replaced. Enough megadonors have come forward to confirm this.

Biden did have the deligates, so I'm not sure he could have been replaced.

Can you imagine the GOP outrage if the DNC did replace him?

I can imagine it because that is pretty much what happened. He "stepped down" because he was going to be replaced. The GOP did act outraged. Several
DNC donors were also outraged -- they didn't want Harris.

Since she was on the ticket, she was legally the only one that could
"inherit" the Biden money that had been raised. Anyone could have inherited the delegates, though. Research the 1968 convention. LBJ had some delegates, even though he announced he was not running. Those went to his VP Humphrey. However, the recently late RFK also had pledged delegates. Humphrey was not "tied in" with RFK like he was with LBJ (or like Harris was with Biden), but the RFK delegates were nonetheless reassigned to Humphrey.


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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

Per an NPR report from January 21, 2023, the FBI did indeed search
Biden's home in Wilmington and also did indeed find additional
documents that Biden had not fessed up to having.

Google "Did FBI search Biden property for documents" if you want to see
it for yourself.

I am aware that the FBI did search Biden properies. It was a consential search. Biden was not hiding documets that he had taken as Trump had done.

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

You could say they did not matter until the pardon. Then it all became
a part of Joe's Presidential legacy.

Hunter's pardon does not compare with say,

George Papadopoulos

Michael T. Flynn

Roger Joseph Stone Jr.

Paul J. Manafort

Steve Bannon

The above are all well known, the list of Trump pardons goes on and on.

It's all a part of Trump's continuing legacy.

Or was that pardon someone else's bad plan that Biden simply executed?

Biden's pardon of Hunter is forgettable.

I can imagine it because that is pretty much what happened. He
"stepped down" because he was going to be replaced.

He stepped down because it was the best thing to do. He plainly stated his reasons.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Those court cases (now on ice but cases all the same) are far from ridiculous.

Tell me.
If he wasn't running for the Presidency (of which he won in a landslide)
Would any of these case ever see the light of day.
The answer is no, there you have your answer and my rebuttal to your logic.

Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

Nope Judge Cannon of Florida tossed it out.
Do try to stay current with the current events.

He was/is charged with trying to overturn to 2020 election, among other things.

You mean in Georgia / You do know that Fanni Willis has been removed in what is left of the Trump case that remains.
I do believe the people within the state of Georgia turned that state Red just a Delicious Apple found within the State of New York.

he pled the 5th ~450 times in New York!

Doing so is not a omission of guilt.
It has more to do with innocence if anything.

They tried to do their best to bog him down in court, so he couldn't campaign.

They did not. Democrats had no hand in those charges. Donald trump was charged with crimes in the same way any American would be charged with
any crimes.

Are you sure about that. Here is what
(most people know, who do not live [and would never live in] your world know.) These are the facts why did a Federal prosecutor step down from his Federal post and then sent NY to take up the case there.
Easy answer: The DOJ is corrupt and stinks to high heaven.

Lets be clear this was an effort to silence Trump and his message.

Nope, Donnie had no problem getting his message out. The DOJ gave him every opportunity to carry on his campaign in spite of the charges. He held rallies (many of them) on a constant basis.

Your friends in the democratic party and all the sycophants pundits within the left-winged media who kept pointing to the sky, proclaiming it was falling, aided Donald Trump to be elected. Truth!

All of what was said by these people on the left was a lie
- We were told that the border is secure, repeatedly. It was not.

I guess that depends on what you consider a secure border. None of the republican/gop/trump narrative around the border is true, never was.

Don't go all squirrelly on me now, with your dodging and weaving.
Bottom line is they wide-eyed clown faced mayorkas told the American People that the border was secure. It was not secure, not even slightly.

- Costs at the supermarket for groceries are under control. They were not

You are talking about the cost of living.

I am talking about the cost of surviving
(food is essential & necessary for life to continue.)

The cost of living is not going to go down in spite of DJT's promises.
He is a common liar.

All you need to do is look South and see America take off. It will prosper! Then once you had your fill of "humble pie." You can go inside and fix your self some hot chocolate w/ or without the mini marshmallows.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

It's not what his numbers are showing.
They are piss pour, lowest since Jimmy Carter (RIP)

Harris is a good speaker. She was always clear and honest.

You like that word salad crap - everything is better w/ bacon crumble on top. Apparently so. smdh
No I do not like her and I was clear as to why. So you can go back and read
it again and get re-educated as it were.

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Tell me.
If he wasn't running for the Presidency (of which he won in a landslide)

Landslide? Hardly.

Would any of these case ever see the light of day.

These cases were all on there way to trial.

The answer is no, there you have your answer and my rebuttal to your logic.

That's a poor rebuttal. Trump has not been cleared and these cases have not been dismissed. The DOJ will not prosecute a sitting president so Trump need not worry until after his term.

Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

Nope Judge Cannon of Florida tossed it out.

A dubious ruling by Cannon. It doesn't have a snowflake's chance in hell of standing.

Do try to stay current with the current events.

I wouldn't put much stock in anything Cannon has to say or do.

He was/is charged with trying to overturn to 2020 election, among other
things.

You mean in Georgia / You do know that Fanni Willis has been removed in what i
left of the Trump case that remains.

Fanni is out, the case stands.

he pled the 5th ~450 times in New York!

Doing so is not a omission of guilt.
It has more to do with innocence if anything.

Really!? That's not what Donnie said.

They tried to do their best to bog him down in court, so he couldn't
campaign.

They did not. Democrats had no hand in those charges. Donald trump was
charged with crimes in the same way any American would be charged with
any crimes.

These are the facts why did a Federal prosecutor step down from his Federal post and then sent NY to take up the case there.
Easy answer: The DOJ is corrupt and stinks to high heaven.

Whhat fantasy is this?

Your friends in the democratic party and all the sycophants pundits within the left-winged media who kept pointing to the sky, proclaiming it was falling, aided Donald Trump to be elected. Truth!

I don't have a single friend in the democratic party.

I don't know why American's elected DJT again after all we have seen and heard but I don't think it was the democrats!

I am talking about the cost of surviving
(food is essential & necessary for life to continue.)

Of course it does. Now donnie is president I don't think the cost of groceries is going to go down. Hint: the president does not control the cost of groceries.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

It's not what his numbers are showing.
They are piss pour, lowest since Jimmy Carter (RIP)

Have a look at Trump's rating as president. It's down near the bottom of the list (for a reason).

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Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Trump was/is charged with stealing/mishandling top secret documents.

Nope Judge Cannon of Florida tossed it out.
Do try to stay current with the current events.

Remember that Alan ignores any facts that counter his false Narrative.
So he probably is staying current, but willfully ignoring things he doesn't like.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

It's not what his numbers are showing.
They are piss pour, lowest since Jimmy Carter (RIP)

Carter probably died happy knowing that he was no longer known as the Worst President In History.


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Per an NPR report from January 21, 2023, the FBI did indeed search Biden's home in Wilmington and also did indeed find additional
documents that Biden had not fessed up to having.

Google "Did FBI search Biden property for documents" if you want to see it for yourself.

I am aware that the FBI did search Biden properies. It was a consential

earch

Biden was not hiding documets that he had taken as Trump had done.

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get a conviction after letting Biden off.

They need to concentrate on other charges that have plenty of evidence and
that are not ones they just let someone else off for.

You could say they did not matter until the pardon. Then it all became a part of Joe's Presidential legacy.

Hunter's pardon does not compare with say,

(list)

The above are all well known, the list of Trump pardons goes on and on.

It's all a part of Trump's continuing legacy.

We were not talking about Trump's legacy. We were talking about Biden's.

You are correct though it does not compare as Biden's pardon of Biden
extends to yet to be determined crimes over a rather large time frame. In other words, it is a get out of jail free card for anything done during
that time that might later come to light, and it is likely the largest
"blanket pardon" in history.

Or was that pardon someone else's bad plan that Biden simply executed?

Biden's pardon of Hunter is forgettable.

It might be if he'd only pardoned him over what he was already convicted of.

I can imagine it because that is pretty much what happened. He
"stepped down" because he was going to be replaced.

He stepped down because it was the best thing to do. He plainly stated his reasons.

He was going to be replaced. I have previously posted links to discussions with Democrat megadonors who have confirmed this. They also have confirmed that Biden endorsed Kamala as an "F-you" to all of the Democrats who
pressured him to step aside -- they wanted an open convention and not
Harris being nominated. Unless you have some previously undesclosed
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Those court cases (now on ice but cases all the same) are far from ridiculous.

Tell me.
If he wasn't running for the Presidency (of which he won in a landslide) Would any of these case ever see the light of day.
The answer is no, there you have your answer and my rebuttal to your logic.

While I agree with some of that, some cases date back to before he was officially running, i.e. after 2020 and before the 2024 cycle began.

Your friends in the democratic party and all the sycophants pundits within

he

left-winged media who kept pointing to the sky, proclaiming it was falling, aided Donald Trump to be elected. Truth!

No doubt about that. Media members conceded to this right after the election was over.

You are talking about the cost of living.

I am talking about the cost of surviving
(food is essential & necessary for life to continue.)

Persons of wealth have issues comprehending this, and will deflect by
pointing at the stock market -- something that people having difficulty
putting food on the table have no real interest in.

Biden's legacy will be good and strong.

It's not what his numbers are showing.
They are piss pour, lowest since Jimmy Carter (RIP)

I am glad that Carter got to live long enough to see someone do even worse. Carter was a good man who didn't really deserve that albatross.


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I don't know why American's elected DJT again after all we have seen and

eard

but I don't think it was the democrats!

Because the Democrats managed to nominate someone even worse.


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There is no comparison between these two incidents.

There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get a conviction after letting Biden off.

A conviction? There was never going to be a conviction or even a trial. There was no crime.

They need to concentrate on other charges that have plenty of evidence
and that are not ones they just let someone else off for.

There is no crime or evidence of any crime.

The above are all well known, the list of Trump pardons goes on and on.

It's all a part of Trump's continuing legacy.

We were not talking about Trump's legacy. We were talking about
Biden's.

Yes, you are talking about Biden's legacy. I am comparing that to Trump's legacy of pardons. He has done many stinky pardons and there are more on the way.

You are correct though it does not compare as Biden's pardon of Biden extends to yet to be determined crimes over a rather large time frame.

What crimes? Hunter is not the criminal you seem to think he is.

Same for Joe Biden, what crimes?

In other words, it is a get out of jail free card for anything done
during that time that might later come to light, and it is likely the largest "blanket pardon" in history.

Nope, Hunters pardon is no such thing.

Biden's pardon of Hunter is forgettable.

It might be if he'd only pardoned him over what he was already
convicted of.

The Hunter pardon is forgettable, and so is Hunter. Who is he?

Oh, right. His name is Biden.

He stepped down because it was the best thing to do. He plainly stated his reasons.

He was going to be replaced.

The reality is he stepped down.

I have previously posted links to discussions with Democrat megadonors
who have confirmed this.

Donors, mega or otherwise do not decide who is on the ticket.

They also have confirmed that Biden endorsed Kamala as an "F-you" to
all of the Democrats who pressured him to step aside -- they wanted
an open convention and not Harris being nominated. Unless you have
some previously undesclosed insider information, like being a Democrat megadonor yourself, you don't know what you are talking about.

Biden's endorsment of Kamala was nothing more than that. She didn't have to run. She decided to and the democrats got behind her.

The rest is history.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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There is no comparison between these two incidents.

There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get a conviction after letting Biden off.

A conviction? There was never going to be a conviction or even a trial. There was no crime.

A conviction of Trump. They don't teach you much about context up in BC,
do they? There is enough of a comparison that letting Biden off for
improperly storing classified documents in his home will make it very
difficult to convict Trump for also keeping classified documents improperly stored in his home.

And there was indeed a crime, in *both* cases. If Biden or Trump were just about anyone else besides a politician, keeping classified documents in the manner that they did would have landed them in jail and/or heavily fined.

Having worked with classified data most of my life, I know this. In my
state, you are not only covered by federal laws that promise jail time and fines, but there are also state level laws for mishandling classified federal documents and data that also carry jail time and fines.

They might be able to get Trump with some charge for not returning them,
but it won't be the grand conviction you are hoping for.

They need to concentrate on other charges that have plenty of evidence and that are not ones they just let someone else off for.

There is no crime or evidence of any crime.

As we are talking about *Trump*, I am shocked to hear you say that but, then again, not too surprised as you are pretty dense.

If you have not recently read the echo rules, there is a new one asking you
to *please* not drunk post here.

You are correct though it does not compare as Biden's pardon of Biden extends to yet to be determined crimes over a rather large time frame.

What crimes? Hunter is not the criminal you seem to think he is.

Hunter was convicted of crimes. Joe has pardoned him of not only those
crimes, but of all possible crimes during a wide time frame. So I am not
the one who is imagining any Hunter crimes. Joe Biden is.

In other words, it is a get out of jail free card for anything done during that time that might later come to light, and it is likely the largest "blanket pardon" in history.

Nope, Hunters pardon is no such thing.

Yes, it is. The last time anyone was issues such a blanket pardon, it was Richard Nixon.

If you google "hunter biden broad pardon" you will fine articles like this:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/02/hunter-biden-pardon-nixon-00192101

"'I have never seen language like this in a pardon document that purports to pardon offenses that have not apparently even been charged, with the exception of the Nixon pardon,' said Margaret Love, who served from 1990 to 1997 as the U.S. pardon attorney, a Justice Department position devoted to assisting the president on clemency issues.

"'*Even the broadest Trump pardons were specific as to what was being pardoned*,' Love added."

If you don't like that source, there are also articles from ABC, the AP,
and NPR to choose from.

Aside from some MAGAs and some hard-core leftists, I have *never* met
anyone as intentionally woefully ignorant as you.


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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

There is no comparison between these two incidents.

There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get
a conviction after letting Biden off.

A conviction? There was never going to be a conviction or even a trial. There was no crime.

A conviction of Trump. They don't teach you much about context up in
BC, do they?

You have lost your own narrative. Your comments and my reply were about Biden, but we can talk about trump.

Speaking of Biden, there was no crime. That is why there is no trial or convicion.

There is enough of a comparison that letting Biden off for improperly storing classified documents in his home will make it very difficult to convict Trump for also keeping classified documents improperly stored
in his home.

Biden did improperly store those documents, that is the end of that story.

And there was indeed a crime, in *both* cases. If Biden or Trump were just about anyone else besides a politician, keeping classified
documents in the manner that they did would have landed them in jail and/or heavily fined.

Trump took documents from the white house. Stored them in the bathroom at Mar-a-Logo among other places there about.

He was asked to return the documents, he refused. It came to a point where the FBI had to attend Mar-a-Lago and retrieve them.

Having worked with classified data most of my life, I know this. In my state, you are not only covered by federal laws that promise jail time
and fines, but there are also state level laws for mishandling
classified federal documents and data that also carry jail time and
fines.

I didn't realize you were an FBI agent.

They might be able to get Trump with some charge for not returning
them, but it won't be the grand conviction you are hoping for.

These were not simply classified documents. These were top secret documents.

The hard part is not convicting trump, it's getting him in court where a trial can be held.

There is no crime or evidence of any crime.

As we are talking about *Trump*, I am shocked to hear you say that but, then again, not too surprised as you are pretty dense.

Again, your comments and my reply was about Biden. Dense indeed.

If you have not recently read the echo rules, there is a new one asking you to *please* not drunk post here.

I don't drink often and when I do it's a beer or two.

My lady plans rum and coke tonight so I will refrain from posting this evening.

Yes, it is. The last time anyone was issues such a blanket pardon, it
was Richard Nixon.

Are you comparing the Hunter pardon to the Nixon pardon? Please stop.

Aside from some MAGAs and some hard-core leftists, I have *never* met anyone as intentionally woefully ignorant as you.

Comparing the Hunter and Nixon pardon is indeed ignorant.

Ttyl :-),
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There is no comparison between these two incidents.

There is enough of a comparison that they will be hard-pressed to get a conviction after letting Biden off.

A conviction? There was never going to be a conviction or even a trial. There was no crime.

A conviction of Trump. They don't teach you much about context up in BC, do they?

You have lost your own narrative. Your comments and my reply were about Biden,
but we can talk about trump.

No, dumbass, you lost it. You were comparing Biden's crime to Trump's.

Re-read the above. Unless you were talking about two different *Biden* incidents, the context is obvious (despite the parts you've removed).

Biden did improperly store those documents, that is the end of that story.

That is a crime.

And there was indeed a crime, in *both* cases. If Biden or Trump were just about anyone else besides a politician, keeping classified documents in the manner that they did would have landed them in jail and/or heavily fined.

Trump took documents from the white house. Stored them in the bathroom at Mar-a-Logo among other places there about.

Biden took documents home, as a VP/Senator, and stored them in his garage. *Both* are crimes.

Having worked with classified data most of my life, I know this. In my state, you are not only covered by federal laws that promise jail time and fines, but there are also state level laws for mishandling classified federal documents and data that also carry jail time and fines.

I didn't realize you were an FBI agent.

I am not, but I worked with classified federal and state data for over 20 years. Anyone who handles this data is covered by laws regarding how they handle it... the FBI, the IRS, politicians, state agency employees, etc.

There is no crime or evidence of any crime.

As we are talking about *Trump*, I am shocked to hear you say that but, then again, not too surprised as you are pretty dense.

Again, your comments and my reply was about Biden. Dense indeed.

No, in that part of the conversation, we were discussing Trump. You have
cut that part of the conversation out, just like you always do when you are playing stupid.

Yes, it is. The last time anyone was issues such a blanket pardon, it was Richard Nixon.

Are you comparing the Hunter pardon to the Nixon pardon? Please stop.

I did not. Someone who handled Presidential pardons for several years -- someone who knows more about it than me and *especially* you -- said that. There were not intentionally igorant enough to ignore that it was indeed a *blanket* pardon.

In that context, they are comparable.


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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

Biden did improperly store those documents, that is the end of that story.

That is a crime.

Biden was not charged with a crime, because he did not commit a crime.

Biden took documents home, as a VP/Senator, and stored them in his
garage. *Both* are crimes.

When Biden's documents were discovered they were returned.

When Trump's documents were discovered they were not returned. He went so far as to tell his lawyers to say there were no documents.

The difference is not hard to tell.

Are you comparing the Hunter pardon to the Nixon pardon? Please stop.

I did not.

Yes you did, that is what you are telling me.

Someone who handled Presidential pardons for several years
-- someone who knows more about it than me and *especially* you -- said that. There were not intentionally igorant enough to ignore that it was indeed a *blanket* pardon.

I see. You are not saying that. Someone else is. Got ya.

In that context, they are comparable.

The Hunter pardon and the Nixon pardon are not comparable, in any way.

I realize that MAGA will simply double down at all times on every single narrative they want to push but that does not mean these two pardons are comparable in real life. They are not.

Ttyl :-),
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I would normally discourage this but, in this case, I am actually going
to encourage it. Please share a link here once you are done. Please
also be sure to include plenty of examples of his "I didn't say that" (when he did) and his "clever" practice of deleting parts of
conversations to make them about something else.

He is willfully ignorant and deserves the air time.

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I can remember a time when a thoughtful discussion was welcomed.
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He is willfully ignorant and deserves the air time.

Thanks for the GREEN LIGHT, Production has begun.
I have a lot to say that has been bottled up w/ all of this TDS in the media and delusional representations from the chaotic left. Enough is enough.
I can remember a time when a thoughtful discussion was welcomed.
but as of late all I have been seen is their vile hatred and twisted views. It's time that these people get pushed back in to the basement.

Since he seems to come here looking to start arguments, & since I am about
the only one left that will respond to him (although that may soon change),
he has even argued with me when we are actually in agreement.

Lately, he has gone back to his selective reply editing, where he edits key stuff out and then tries to convince me we were discussing something else. General troll behavior.

I guess with Lee being gone, Al wants to fill a void that most of us don't
care to have filled.


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On 01 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

When Biden's documents were discovered they were returned.

When Trump's documents were discovered they were not returned. He went
so far as to tell his lawyers to say there were no documents.

You've missed the big picture Alan... Joe Biden should have never had the documents at all, period. He never had the authority to have them.

Trump on the other hand had the authority to have them, he could declassify at will any document he wanted... Period.

Other presidents, mostly all, have taken documents from the White House. George W. Bush took documents home and he sent some back, years later, while keep others.

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I guess with Lee being gone, Al wants to fill a void that most of us
don't care to have filled.

Lee made a lot more sense than Alan. I think that deep down inside, Lee knew how ridiculous Democrats are. He made a few irregular posts here and there that seemed to favor conservative views. (He just didn't like Trump.)

It's possible that Alan is the same thing. Does he ever say anything bad about other Republicans, or just Trump? (Just Trump I think.)

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Lee made a lot more sense than Alan. I think that deep down inside, Lee knew how ridiculous Democrats are. He made a few irregular posts here and there

ha

seemed to favor conservative views. (He just didn't like Trump.)

Lee used to harp on other Republicans back before 2016. Lee was also a lot more likely to stoop to being crude when you didn't just take his word for something, or when a discussion was not going his way.

It's possible that Alan is the same thing. Does he ever say anything bad

bout

other Republicans, or just Trump? (Just Trump I think.)

Yes, I do believe Alan has but, yes, as of late, Trump is his favorite target.


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Lee used to harp on other Republicans back before 2016. Lee was also a lot more likely to stoop to being crude when you didn't just take his
word for something, or when a discussion was not going his way.

Those are good memories. I miss those crazy replies.

other Republicans, or just Trump? (Just Trump I think.)

Yes, I do believe Alan has but, yes, as of late, Trump is his favorite target.

The media seems to be lightening up on their Trump attacks lately. I'm confident that this will impact Alan's attitude. He will be singing whatever tune they will be singing.

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Yes, I do believe Alan has but, yes, as of late, Trump is his favorite
target.

Donny is an easy target, that's all.

The media seems to be lightening up on their Trump attacks lately.

Attacks? Trump has just taken a back seat to Elon lately.

I'm confident that this will impact Alan's attitude.

Unlikely.

He will be singing whatever tune they will be singing.

I was never much of a singer.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

The media seems to be lightening up on their Trump attacks lately.

They are desperately trying to stay afloat. But it won't work.

I expect to see a good number of media company failures this year.


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Lee used to harp on other Republicans back before 2016. Lee was also a lot more likely to stoop to being crude when you didn't just take his word for something, or when a discussion was not going his way.

Those are good memories. I miss those crazy replies.

LOL I do not miss them at all.


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Yes, I do believe Alan has but, yes, as of late, Trump is his favorite >> target.

Donny is an easy target, that's all.

The media seems to be lightening up on their Trump attacks lately.

Attacks? Trump has just taken a back seat to Elon lately.

You don't like Elon either? He's awesome. He helped save my country.

I'm confident that this will impact Alan's attitude.

Unlikely.

It's unlikely that it will change your opinion of Trump, but it's likely to take the focus off of it.

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The media seems to be lightening up on their Trump attacks lately.

They are desperately trying to stay afloat. But it won't work.

I expect to see a good number of media company failures this year.

That seems likely, but how does anybody know what people are watching on TV? Our TVs don't transmit data, so are they just relying on Nielson families?

I've been a Netflix subscriber for more than 10 years, and the only thing I ever watch on it is Trailer Park Boys re-runs (I can never get enough of that show.) But since Netflix knows that I've been subscribing for so long, they probably think "That guy has been subscribing for a long time, so he must be enjoying Emily in Paris."

Fox News is probably right when they call themselves "Most watched cable news," but they can't know that for a fact.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

Attacks? Trump has just taken a back seat to Elon lately.

You don't like Elon either?

I'm not inclined to like Elon, or to dislike him.

He's awesome. He helped save my country.

He helped save your country?

From what?

It's unlikely that it will change your opinion of Trump, but it's
likely to take the focus off of it.

I'm not focused on Trump but his words and actions keep a focus on him.

Ttyl :-),
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It's unlikely that it will change your opinion of Trump, but it's likely to take the focus off of it.

I'm not focused on Trump but his words and actions keep a focus on him.

You're about to find out, that I am done with you bastardizing Trump.
I will not stand by and let you peddle your lies, not without equal push back.

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I'm not focused on Trump but his words and actions keep a focus on him.

You're about to find out, that I am done with you bastardizing Trump.

Donald Trump basterdizes himself with his words and actions.

I will not stand by and let you peddle your lies, not without equal push back.

My opinions may differ from yours but I tell no lies.

Donald Trump is the lie master.

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You don't like Elon either?

I'm not inclined to like Elon, or to dislike him.

He's awesome. He helped save my country.

He helped save your country?

From what?

From globalism. He gave away $1 million dollars a day in a lottery for people promising to vote against Harris. He also helped just by being openly supportive of Trump without fear of what it could do to his business.

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On 04 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

Donald Trump basterdizes himself with his words and actions.

What's the matter Alan, are you still having a meltdown over Donald Trump?
Tell me...
What words or actions of Trumps is bothering you so much?

I will not stand by and let you peddle your lies, not without equal push back.

My opinions may differ from yours but I tell no lies.

Then give me & everyone in here who is either reading or lurking the specifics as to why you believe in the things that you have been stating.
I think you're consuming several liberal trash media sources that is devouring your mind; as fast as water dominates a dry sponge.

You have went along with these words of untruth and you have accepted them as the gospel truth. Ah, but if they were true...
Why didn't Kamala Win. The idiot box said she was going to win.(Liberal Tears) Why is Donald Trump President elect?
Why was there a LANDSLIDE election? (w/ a MAP that makes it beyond obvious.) Why did Donald Trump capture the popular vote? why why why? Sniffle
Simple.
Because FOOL, you have been living in dreamworld. You have been lied to.
All of this hate, that has caused your mind to melt into a unusable mass. Pounding the keys and hammering out half-baked message without providing any substance is truly pointless.

You may want to consider to take it down a notch, or provide some substance for your unjustified hatred. I'm talking about facts, as in "Put Up or Shut Up!"

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Attacks? Trump has just taken a back seat to Elon lately.

You don't like Elon either? He's awesome. He helped save my country.

A lot of people who used to adore Elon (like the second coming of Steve
Jobs) suddenly quit when he turned out to be politically aligned in a way different than what they thought.

I never really 100% cared for him, and I believe he will wind up causing
more trouble than good no matter which party he aligns himself with.


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I will not stand by and let you peddle your lies, not without equal push back.

My opinions may differ from yours but I tell no lies.

That is not correct. You often delete things from responses to make it
look like you never said something you did, and which can easily be found should someone want to look back into their older messages.


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From globalism. He gave away $1 million dollars a day in a lottery for people promising to vote against Harris.

That is funny. If a Democrat PAC had done the same thing, giving money to voters who promised not to vote for Trump, I am pretty certain you would
still be crying foul about that.

No one should be paying voters, although a judge apparently said it was
indeed OK.


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On 04 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

He helped save your country?

From what?

The Democrats... and the Deep State... Look at what Elon did with the last 1500 page BS bill. Took it down to 100 and whatever and trimmed all the pork and special interest BS.

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On 04 Jan 2025, Gregory Deyss said the following...

You're about to find out, that I am done with you bastardizing Trump.
I will not stand by and let you peddle your lies, not without equal push back.

He voted for Trudeau... You're not going to make any sense to him.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

That seems likely, but how does anybody know what people are watching
on TV?

If you change the channel on your cable box, the cable company knows what you are watching.

Our TVs don't transmit data, so are they just relying on Nielson
families?

The "smart" TVs do. Neilson families are still useful, but dropping in usefulness.

Fox News is probably right when they call themselves "Most watched
cable news," but they can't know that for a fact.

The funny thing is that when the viewer numbers come out, their ratings are still lower than something like YouTube's Liberal Hivemind.


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Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

You may want to consider to take it down a notch, or provide some substance for your unjustified hatred. I'm talking about facts, as in
"Put Up or Shut Up!"

It's time for another Thomas Sowell quote:
"One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people's motives, make bold assertion, repeat slogans -- anything except reason."


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The Democrats... and the Deep State... Look at what Elon did with the last 1500 page BS bill. Took it down to 100 and whatever and trimmed all the pork and special interest BS.

How did Elon do that? He is not in Congress and doesn't write bills.


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A lot of people who used to adore Elon (like the second coming of Steve Jobs) suddenly quit when he turned out to be politically aligned in a way different than what they thought.

I never really 100% cared for him, and I believe he will wind up causing more trouble than good no matter which party he aligns himself with.

I never cared about him either until Biden came along and he helped exterminate that pest.

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From globalism. He gave away $1 million dollars a day in a lottery for p promising to vote against Harris.

That is funny. If a Democrat PAC had done the same thing, giving money
to voters who promised not to vote for Trump, I am pretty certain you would still be crying foul about that.

The forces of evil didn't try very hard to win, which still creeps me out. If they wanted to win, then they would have gave me lots to cry about.

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On 05 Jan 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

How did Elon do that? He is not in Congress and doesn't write bills.

He processed the bill through an AI program and in 15 minutes all the pork was exposed. He then tweeted that if any Republicans vote for this he'll use his money to primary them.

Within 24 hours the bill as we know it was passed... all 100 and whateve3r pages.

In the old Bill it gave congress a 40% wage increase... 100s and 100s of pages of late at night back room deals.

There are talks, and I hope they go through with it, that all bills have to be posted for a week before voting on them so that the public can consume it first.

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That seems likely, but how does anybody know what people are watching on TV?

If you change the channel on your cable box, the cable company knows
what you are watching.

Are you sure? That sounds like an invasion of privacy. Hopefully they cover their butts legally when they collect that data.

Fox News is probably right when they call themselves "Most watched cable news," but they can't know that for a fact.

The funny thing is that when the viewer numbers come out, their ratings are still lower than something like YouTube's Liberal Hivemind.

I believe it. Nobody can top Youtube in viewership. But do you think Fox News gets more attention than the other cable news channels? Their brainwashing is much more subtle and less obvious than the others. Probably the majority of Americans appreciate them for that also.

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How did Elon do that? He is not in Congress and doesn't write bills.

He processed the bill through an AI program and in 15 minutes all the
pork was exposed. He then tweeted that if any Republicans vote for this he'll use his money to primary them.

I wasn't aware of this but I love that statement! RINOs beware! :)

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On 05 Jan 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I wasn't aware of this but I love that statement! RINOs beware! :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_DeLauro

That Blue Haired Democrat cried the loudest... She's a multi-millionaire who has made her millions from the government... She was pissed!!! Even Bernie Sanders chimed in.

I think Elon is going to use AI to review department spending once he gets rolling.

GRIN!!!!

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Gregory Deyss wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

On 04 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

Donald Trump basterdizes himself with his words and actions.

What's the matter Alan, are you still having a meltdown over Donald
Trump?

What meltdown do you speak of?

I don't care much for DJT, but there is no meltdown.

Tell me...
What words or actions of Trumps is bothering you so much?

From election night 2020, frankly we did win this election.

https://tinyurl.com/2s5bfw6e

Donald Trump's lies go on and on. Here is a list of the 15 most notable lies from his first term.

https://tinyurl.com/2fsup6kp

Do you think he will turn over a new leaf?

Then give me & everyone in here who is either reading or lurking the specifics as to why you believe in the things that you have been
stating.

I do just that over and over again. What more can I do?

You have went along with these words of untruth and you have accepted
them as the gospel truth.

Can you give me an example?

Ah, but if they were true...
Why didn't Kamala Win. The idiot box said she was going to win.(Liberal Tears) Why is Donald Trump President elect?

That is obvious, even to democrats.

Why was there a LANDSLIDE election? (w/ a MAP that makes it beyond obvious.) Why did Donald Trump capture the popular vote? why why why? Sniffle Simple.
Because FOOL, you have been living in dreamworld. You have been lied
to.

Republicans lie all the time. I hear the lies but I don't belive them.

All of this hate, that has caused your mind to melt into a unusable
mass. Pounding the keys and hammering out half-baked message without providing any substance is truly pointless.

What hate do you speak of? My hate of lies. I have always hated lies and liars and I probably always will.

You may want to consider to take it down a notch, or provide some substance for your unjustified hatred. I'm talking about facts, as in
"Put Up or Shut Up!"

Take it down a notch?

I have given you some facts to look at. Let me know how it goes!


Ttyl :-),
Al

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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

My opinions may differ from yours but I tell no lies.

That is not correct. You often delete things from responses to make it look like you never said something you did, and which can easily be
found should someone want to look back into their older messages.

I have deleted nothing.

Many people say things I am not going to get into. I simply move on.

When I comment on someones post I quote enough that they understand what I am saying or commenting on.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

He helped save your country?

From what?

The Democrats... and the Deep State...

The Democrats... and the Deep State...?

What are you talking about?

Look at what Elon did with the last 1500 page BS bill. Took it down
to 100 and whatever and trimmed all the pork and special interest BS.

I don't know what 1500 page BS bill or pork you speak of but I don't expect anything from Elon Musk. He wasn't elected to anything, he simply paid the bills.

Elon has taken away the blue mark and is demonetizing and canceling his critics on X. That is not free speech. Not even close.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Are you sure? That sounds like an invasion of privacy. Hopefully they cover their butts legally when they collect that data.

Did you actually read the user agreement with your cable company?

Like most people, probably not.

I believe it. Nobody can top Youtube in viewership. But do you think
Fox News gets more attention than the other cable news channels?

I don't have a feel for that since I no longer watch TV - and haven't for several years now.

I do know that Fox News has proven itself to be controlled opposition, so it's not much better than the other arms of the Propaganda Ministry.

Their
brainwashing is much more subtle and less obvious than the others. Probably the majority of Americans appreciate them for that also.

Guessing: Since their lies were more subtle, they probably didn't see the huge drop offs that MSNBC had. But they probably had a drop in viewship as well. Especially since Tucker moved off (was fired, etc.).


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

The forces of evil didn't try very hard to win, which still creeps me
out. If they wanted to win, then they would have gave me lots to cry about.

They knew that they couldn't win the Presidency. But they did cheat in many senate and house elections to install their operatives.

That's why they are cutting their operatives loose, messing things up as much as possible and going back into hiding.

I expect to see many challenges to the DOGE cuts - since that will dismantle the Bureaucracy.

I also expect them to fight to keep things in place that are bad for the country, but good for them.

They will continue to fight, but on another level. The problem for them is that their power base is crumbling.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_DeLauro

That Blue Haired Democrat cried the loudest... She's a
multi-millionaire who has made her millions from the government... She was pissed!!! Even Bernie Sanders chimed in.

Next time police are looking for a blue-haired suspect, they'd better check that lady out.

How much money did they try to slither away with this time?

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I believe it. Nobody can top Youtube in viewership. But do you think Fox News gets more attention than the other cable news channels?

I don't have a feel for that since I no longer watch TV - and haven't for several years now.

I don't watch cable news but I read foxnews' website and cnn's website. They inadvertently provide "news" when I decode their lies.

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They knew that they couldn't win the Presidency. But they did cheat in many senate and house elections to install their operatives.

Yea, the house and senate majorities are not things that we can bank on, but let's hope for the best.

I expect to see many challenges to the DOGE cuts - since that will dismantle the Bureaucracy.

While the Soros associates fight for that crap, the smart American majority will know who to side with.

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That is funny. If a Democrat PAC had done the same thing, giving money to voters who promised not to vote for Trump, I am pretty certain you would still be crying foul about that.

The forces of evil didn't try very hard to win, which still creeps me out. If they wanted to win, then they would have gave me lots to cry about.

Biden endorsing Harris as his successor put them in a bind, IMHO. Most of
them were ok with her being VP but wanted someone else to run for President.


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How did Elon do that? He is not in Congress and doesn't write bills.

He processed the bill through an AI program and in 15 minutes all the pork

as

exposed. He then tweeted that if any Republicans vote for this he'll use his money to primary them.

Several weeks ago, before the election, I pointed out that Trump influenced a vote via a social media post. Everyone here at the time said that he had nothing to do with how the vote turned out.

Certainly you are not telling me that Elon is more powerful that the Donald
and that he does have the power to tweet things so?

There are talks, and I hope they go through with it, that all bills have to

e

posted for a week before voting on them so that the public can consume it first.

That would be nice, although I doubt most of the public would understand
any of them.


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I have deleted nothing.

Many people say things I am not going to get into. I simply move on.

When I comment on someones post I quote enough that they understand what I am saying or commenting on.

How can that be so? Half the time, you do not even understand what is
being commented on, often because you have deleted something from a
previous post.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

I never really 100% cared for him, and I believe he will wind up causing more trouble than good no matter which party he aligns himself with.

I never cared about him either until Biden came along and he helped exterminate that pest.

If the Democrats ever figure out how to create another Obama, don't be
shocked if Elon follows along with him, too. IMHO, he is an opportunist.


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On 05 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

Elon has taken away the blue mark and is demonetizing and canceling his critics on X. That is not free speech. Not even close.

Elon has canceled no one on X

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On 06 Jan 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Next time police are looking for a blue-haired suspect, they'd better check that lady out.

How much money did they try to slither away with this time?

Billions and billions and billions. The political class needed this bill to pay off the donors with pet projects.

Congress tried to give themselves a 40% raise. Congress also wanted to be notified of any search warrants and they were quash against them... So the J6 comity or others who are into insider trading would be notified, tipped off on any investigations.

Our representatives are professionals at drafting bills... They add things in there about homeless puppies so that if you complain about the bill they say things like... You hate puppies don't you.

I think the idea of not passing these huge bills hours before a shutdown and Christmas break is a good idea. Have the bill posted online a week before the vote is a great idea.

If AI pointed out all the corruption I'm all in!!!

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On 06 Jan 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

Several weeks ago, before the election, I pointed out that Trump influenced a vote via a social media post. Everyone here at the time
said that he had nothing to do with how the vote turned out.

Certainly you are not telling me that Elon is more powerful that the Donald and that he does have the power to tweet things so?

No... and Joe Biden said if you don't vote for him you ain't black!!!

The Bill was disgusting and full of crap. Elon was able to show the public what was in it and the congressmen should be put on notice that waisting tax payers money money while they payoff donors with political favors.

If they were all proud of their efforts, vote, add your name to the bill. And if your constituency doesn't like it you get voted out.

I think that's how democracy works... Google it!!!

I'm hoping that that the days of midnight deals done in secret are over.

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I never cared about him either until Biden came along and he helped exterminate that pest.

If the Democrats ever figure out how to create another Obama, don't be shocked if Elon follows along with him, too. IMHO, he is an opportunist.

Good point. There was nothing positive about all the support for Democrats that he had in the past. How could a smart guy like Musk just be waking up now all of a sudden?

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I have deleted nothing.

Many people say things I am not going to get into. I simply move on.

When I comment on someones post I quote enough that they understand what I >> am saying or commenting on.

How can that be so?

Wait, what!?

Half the time, you do not even understand what is being commented on, often because you have deleted something from a previous post.

I haven't deleted anything from any post. This is not even possible.

Just because you have posted whatever you may post doesn't mean I have comments about it. When I comment on a post I quote what I am commenting on.

What more do you want?

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Elon has taken away the blue mark and is demonetizing and canceling his
critics on X. That is not free speech. Not even close.

Elon has canceled no one on X

I don't use X so I am not sure what is going on there but many (conervatives and MAGAs) are not happy with X or Elon because of what is happening on X.

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How much money did they try to slither away with this time?

Congress tried to give themselves a 40% raise. Congress also wanted to
be notified of any search warrants and they were quash against them...
So the J6 comity or others who are into insider trading would be
notified, tipped off on any investigations.

Wow! The pay raise is despicable. Most people only get a 3% pay raise. 40% is robbery of the taxpayers.

And "let me know before you investigate me" is hilariously sickening! I'm tired of congress and their fake representation of us. They all need to start working at Taco Bell.

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I never cared about him either until Biden came along and he helped exterminate that pest.

If the Democrats ever figure out how to create another Obama, don't be shocked if Elon follows along with him, too. IMHO, he is an opportunist.

Good point. There was nothing positive about all the support for Democrats that he had in the past. How could a smart guy like Musk just be waking up now all of a sudden?

Yes, I think he will back, and be a twitter warrior for, whoever he thinks is going to win next.

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On 05 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

What words or actions of Trumps is bothering you so much?

From election night 2020, frankly we did win this election.

I had no issues with Trump, fighting for what he believed in.
I am not the only one who thought that the 2020 election was crooked.

Given what we ALL just gone through w/ these past 4 years w/ Biden.
I wish we could of avoided amateur hour. (which equates to 35064 hours.)
Biden has been a politician for 50 years plus. What has he accomplished?
The only thing that matters now is Trump has come out on top in 2025
- bye bye Biden.

https://tinyurl.com/2s5bfw6e

Of course it's CNN
Here is what I think of CNN
https://tinyurl.com/3ywt33xv

Donald Trump's lies go on and on. Here is a list of the 15 most notable lies from his first term.

https://tinyurl.com/2fsup6kp

The website itself loads but the attached video has been PULLED resulting in the following error
Unable to load video
Please try again later.
Error code: CME01SH901 / 1200

This is telling, for several reasons.
There is NO WAY you could've of actually watched this.(gotcha moment)
(due to it's removal)
Was it considered "good enough" for you to state that there was such a video without actually watching it.
You gotta do your homework with me, cross those t's and dot those i's

The possible reasons as to why it is no longer available.
1. This spin - when it was fresh and hot.
before too long - was determined to be a failure.
due to it's desired effect not having any such effect.
Not keeping Trump from becoming President, on 01/20/2025
Please... if it this was not the effect that was desired,
then why was it created?
It's ok Most of us know that CNN is fake News or as "really Fake News" per DJT

2. Second Verse same as the first.
What would be the point in keeping this video online seeing how Trump will become the next President in less than 15 days from now.

Do you think he will turn over a new leaf?

He need not turn over a new leaf, due of my conservative ideals and arsenal of facts.
It is true that Donald Trump will be similar to Steve Austin
- character from the Six Million dollar man.
He will be Stronger Better and Faster than ever before.
As seen here: https://tinyurl.com/3tudmprn

If you want a history lesson?
I will be more than happy to take you on a tour.
The Democratic Party played Trump dirty. Steel Dossier this was a complete work of fiction. None of it, not one stinking filthy page was even slightly true. Yet he was impeached.

There was nothing wrong with the phone call to President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Yet he was impeached.
He was also acquitted twice as well....

Want proof?
There was nothing wrong with the phone call.
Read what said for yourself. other wise Put Up or Shut Up. (to coin a phrase) Here is a link to the telephone transcript of that conversation that took place on July 25th 2019 (that was unclassified) by Trump way back in 2019
https://tinyurl.com/2t75v6kd

While your online.
You might learn something here with this young lady Angelarose https://tinyurl.com/28e23xz9
The comments (under her on her video) Also Speak the Truth.
This is something that my brothers and sisters on the Conservative side have known for a very long time.
You are seriously out numbered and out_gunned (intellectually speaking)

By the way Alan when was the last time you heard a Democratic President speak of America, the way Donald Trump talks about this nation; in the video by Angelarose. Answer: You haven't

The only one that comes to mind in the last 65 years was JFK.
The democrats of today are way way way left of what JFK ever was.
Obama was a good speaker until he went on his apology tour for the U.S.
and before say he didn't or worse yet play dumb and stupid and ask me what the hell I am talking about. Thought you might.
You may want to take a look at this first.
https://tinyurl.com/3htmte8j

Is this what you want to be apart of?
https://tinyurl.com/yn9te3mw
You might NOT be this crazy, but if your insanity continues.
Well you could buy a ticket to the funny farm.
I'm sure there is a Canadian chapter near by.

Ah, but if they were true...
Why didn't Kamala Win. The idiot box said she was going to win.(Libera
Tears) Why is Donald Trump President elect?

That is obvious, even to democrats.

Good.

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On 05 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

My opinions may differ from yours but I tell no lies.

That is not correct. You often delete things from responses to make i
look like you never said something you did, and which can easily be found should someone want to look back into their older messages.

I have deleted nothing.

Many people say things I am not going to get into. I simply move on.

That is called defeat, face it you suck!
but hey it's still early in the new year.
Resolutions?

... I always said you was Yellow.

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I had no issues with Trump, fighting for what he believed in.

I don't either. I'm not sure Trump believes in anything.

I am not the only one who thought that the 2020 election was crooked.

Uh huh. Got any proof?

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Many people say things I am not going to get into. I simply move on.

That is called defeat, face it you suck!

You are a silly man, Gregory Deyss.

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On 07 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

I had no issues with Trump, fighting for what he believed in.

I don't either. I'm not sure Trump believes in anything.

I am not the only one who thought that the 2020 election was crooked.

Uh huh. Got any proof?

As a matter of fact I do.
Of which I create that content to my YT channel.
Then I will post that URL here.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I don't watch cable news but I read foxnews' website and cnn's website. They inadvertently provide "news" when I decode their lies.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

While the Soros associates fight for that crap, the smart American majority will know who to side with.

Yes, I see another year or so of having the curtain pulled back.
Then I see many congress-critters primaried out.


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IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

I think the idea of not passing these huge bills hours before a
shutdown and Christmas break is a good idea. Have the bill posted
online a week before the vote is a great idea.

I'd like to see only single topic bills.

"Here's a bill to help farmers in Iowa. Oh, let's tack on some money
for drag queens in California." Immediate cancellation of the bill.

If AI pointed out all the corruption I'm all in!!!

That's what Elon promised us.


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On 06 Jan 2025, Alan Ianson said the following...

I don't use X so I am not sure what is going on there but many (conervatives and MAGAs) are not happy with X or Elon because of what is happening on X.

You don't have or use X but you have an opinion, that's true Alan form.

There is little to no censorship on X. Its one of the best free speech platforms in the world. Because Elon doesn't "moderate" the content, for the most part, there are countries around the world that don't want X in their counties because the government wants to control what their residence consume.

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On 06 Jan 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Wow! The pay raise is despicable. Most people only get a 3% pay raise.
40% is robbery of the taxpayers.

And "let me know before you investigate me" is hilariously sickening!
I'm tired of congress and their fake representation of us. They all need to start working at Taco Bell.

These are just the juicy ones. There were 1400 more pages of pork pork and more pork. Political insider payoffs and the list goes on.

If I remember correctly, and this fact may not be true, but congress voting on single purpose bills hasn't happened since the 90s.

Political insiders have found that if they push bills to the brink of government shutdown. So they vote on these large bills late at night. No one who's voting on the bill has read it and the US citizens have no clue what's in the bill.

Recall back in the day when they were trying to pass Obama Care and Nancy said "We have to pass the bill before we know what's in the bill? <-- Paraphrase of course.

I think those days are over.

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While the Soros associates fight for that crap, the smart American majority will know who to side with.

Yes, I see another year or so of having the curtain pulled back.
Then I see many congress-critters primaried out.

Your predictions have been accurate in the past. I hope this one becomes reality too.

I'm optimistic because of all the states that Trump flipped. The people who live in the idiot corridors might come around too. Some people have brains that take a little longer to develop than others.

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I'm tired of congress and their fake representation of us. They all n to start working at Taco Bell.

These are just the juicy ones. There were 1400 more pages of pork pork and more pork. Political insider payoffs and the list goes on.

If I remember correctly, and this fact may not be true, but congress voting on single purpose bills hasn't happened since the 90s.

Political insiders have found that if they push bills to the brink of government shutdown. So they vote on these large bills late at night.
No one who's voting on the bill has read it and the US citizens have no clue what's in the bill.

I hope they get back to doing that. One thing at a time. Why not? Are we not paying them enough? lol

Recall back in the day when they were trying to pass Obama Care and
Nancy said "We have to pass the bill before we know what's in the bill?

I don't remember but I'm not surprised. It sounds just like how used car salesmen try to rush people into buying a car. "There's 1 other customer who said they were interested in it and they might be coming back later.."

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As a matter of fact I do.
Of which I create that content to my YT channel.
Then I will post that URL here.

Where was the URL??? I'm with you, but I'd watch some videos...



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IB Joe wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

You don't have or use X but you have an opinion, that's true Alan form.

I used to have an account on twitter. The only reason I did that was to read DJT's tweets. That was kind of fun at the time but I deleted my twitter
account after a while.

I know what twitter/X is.

There is little to no censorship on X.

So they say.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Here is the first in series of what might become a series.
Trump: The Land Slide Final Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzgzUHR0v8
Enjoy

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Your predictions have been accurate in the past. I hope this one
becomes reality too.

I'm hoping too.

I'm optimistic because of all the states that Trump flipped. The people who live in the idiot corridors might come around too. Some people have brains that take a little longer to develop than others.

Using California as an example, most of the intelligent people have left. So we have a state populated primarily by morons and useless people. But they still have some smart, useful people there providing tax dollars.

Now, what would it take for the rest of the smart, useful people to leave? Wildfires? Having your house burnt down by a wildfire? Hmmm....

Think of what would happen to California if the number of people producing drops below a critical number. Add to that a Federal Gov't who will not give a penny to help.

Socialism works until it runs out of other people's money.

And I think we can apply the same to all the other socialistic states.


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IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

Recall back in the day when they were trying to pass Obama Care and
Nancy said "We have to pass the bill before we know what's in the bill?
<-- Paraphrase of course.

That was a little different. They were passing a bill to give the Bureaucracy the power to, effectively, create law.

So their bill was "We give XXX Dept the power to make rules about health care that has the force of law behind them." Then we had to wait until XXX Dept made those rules to "know what was 'in' the bill".


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On 07 Jan 2025, Ron L. said the following...

I'd like to see only single topic bills.

"Here's a bill to help farmers in Iowa. Oh, let's tack on some money
for drag queens in California." Immediate cancellation of the bill.

30 whatever years ago it was like that. They do that on purpose... So if you complain about the Drag Queen stuff they say .... You just hate the farmers in Iowa.

If AI pointed out all the corruption I'm all in!!!

That's what Elon promised us.

Promises made promises kept.

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On 07 Jan 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I hope they get back to doing that. One thing at a time. Why not? Are we not paying them enough? lol

It sounds like they will be, at least during Trump's term. Large bills will be Okay as long as they are posted for a week and Elon has run it through AI.

I don't remember but I'm not surprised. It sounds just like how used car salesmen try to rush people into buying a car. "There's 1 other customer who said they were interested in it and they might be coming back
later.."

You might have been a Democrat back then. Your wife saved your life!!

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On 08 Jan 2025, Ron L. said the following...

That was a little different. They were passing a bill to give the Bureaucracy the power to, effectively, create law.

So their bill was "We give XXX Dept the power to make rules about health care that has the force of law behind them." Then we had to wait until XXX Dept made those rules to "know what was 'in' the bill".

It's hard. The Republicans want less government and the Democrats want a nanny state.

We need to get back to the constitution and stick to the founding principles.

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Now, what would it take for the rest of the smart, useful people to
leave? Wildfires? Having your house burnt down by a wildfire? Hmmm....

I read that James Woods is one of the people affected by the "wild" fires. (He's one of the rare self-thinking celebrities.)

Socialism works until it runs out of other people's money.

And I think we can apply the same to all the other socialistic states.

It's a slow process. People are trickling out of these stupid states, but somehow there's still plenty of money to burn for the time being.

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It sounds like they will be, at least during Trump's term. Large bills will be Okay as long as they are posted for a week and Elon has run it through AI.

That sounds great. Then we're only left with the problem of congress consisting of idiots (but we're used to that by now.)

I don't remember but I'm not surprised. It sounds just like how used salesmen try to rush people into buying a car. "There's 1 other custo who said they were interested in it and they might be coming back later.."

You might have been a Democrat back then. Your wife saved your life!!

She taught me a lot of stuff that I was a slow-learner of. She taught me to not be a quitter, to be a positive thinker, to not drink so much, to pray more, to not let stuff get to me. (I'm truly blessed!)

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On 08 Jan 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

She taught me a lot of stuff that I was a slow-learner of. She taught me to not be a quitter, to be a positive thinker, to not drink so much, to pray more, to not let stuff get to me. (I'm truly blessed!)

As is everyone who Esposa!!

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On 08 Jan 2025, IB Joe said the following...

On 07 Jan 2025, Ron L. said the following...

I'd like to see only single topic bills.

"Here's a bill to help farmers in Iowa. Oh, let's tack on some money for drag queens in California." Immediate cancellation of the bill.

30 whatever years ago it was like that. They do that on purpose... So
if you complain about the Drag Queen stuff they say .... You just hate
the farmers in Iowa.

That was one topic that I totally missed in the first YT documentary was the drag queen story book hour within school or an educational setting, this was accepted and promoted as normal, and even defended in a way that forced us to remain silent due to the idea that indicated Hey, we are just expressing ourselves, then claiming that any push back regarding this type expression was somehow a violation against their right to express themselves.

This type of thing falls in the lap of DEI (diversity and inclusion.)
Fags and queers and the alphabet crew take this to mean that they are protected. Personally I could care less, my moto is you do you, but the moment in enters my personal space or life is when it hits and wall and is no more. Where the fear of being and outcast if you spoke out at a school board meeting. Remember how they would threaten us and told us that we were ones who were violent and they would contact the F.B.I. When we ever wanted to do is voice our strong opinions of Hell, No! Sure parents were outraged and for good reason. 1. Because it was allowed. 2. Because these school administrators totally caved to the pressure to allow it and did not want the American Civil Liberties Union bringing a case against them, so they allowed it. If I see this in my grand-daughters school, I will put an immediate end to it. Working for the New York State Department of Education I have direct access to raise the pressure to ensure Educational Armageddon.

... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

It's hard. The Republicans want less government and the Democrats want
a nanny state.

The actual problem is the people Sowell calls "The Anointed". These people think that they can run your life better than you and that you are so stupid that you NEED someone to run your life.

The problem with thinking in terms of "Democrat vs. Republican" is that while The Anointed have taken over the Democrat party today, they can do the same to the Republican party tomorrow.

We need to get back to the constitution and stick to the founding principles.

Exactly. But The Anointed Ones don't want that because they so strongly believe that they can run your life better than you.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I read that James Woods is one of the people affected by the "wild"
fires. (He's one of the rare self-thinking celebrities.)

Figure that most of the Right-leaning, more productive people are the ones impacted by the fires. So they will probably never come back.

I recently read that State Farm cancelled the insurence for most of those people - due to Newscum's price controls on insurence.

It's a slow process. People are trickling out of these stupid states,
but somehow there's still plenty of money to burn for the time being.

Oh, yes. It takes time. And when there is a friendly Federal Gov't to provide handouts, the whole country pays. But that Gravy Train is coming to an end.


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On 08 Jan 2025, Gregory Deyss said the following...

This type of thing falls in the lap of DEI (diversity and inclusion.) Fags and queers and the alphabet crew take this to mean that they are protected. Personally I could care less, my moto is you do you, but the moment in enters my personal space or life is when it hits and wall and
is no more. Where the fear of being and outcast if you spoke out at a school board meeting. Remember how they would threaten us and told us
that we were ones who were violent and they would contact the F.B.I.
When we ever wanted to do is voice our strong opinions of Hell, No!
Sure parents were outraged and for good reason. 1. Because it was allowed. 2. Because these school administrators totally caved to the pressure to allow it and did not want the American Civil Liberties Union bringing a case against them, so they allowed it. If I see this in my grand-daughters school, I will put an immediate end to it. Working for the New York State Department of Education I have direct access to raise the pressure to ensure Educational Armageddon.

I think our problem is, and it's Canada as well, is the country(s) are too big. You have liberal idiots living somewhere thinking they can push their ideology on you from 2000 miles away. In Canada it's the province of Ontario telling Alberta what to do... If you don't know Alberta is Canada's Texas...

I have a lot of respect for what the founding fathers wanted, I think we have drifted from what they envisioned. We went from Congress voting for us to get into wars and the Government sold War Bonds fund wars... If people didn't like the war they can start to opt out of buying bonds.

Now we can fund proxy wars and the president can get the money anywhere he wants... FIMA... doesn't matter. People are dying in North Carolina, the hurricane, and now California. Money goes to Ukraine citizens die. California sent fire equipment to Ukraine to the detriment of its population. The Democrat mayor cut millions from the fire budget... Fired 100s of fighters who wouldn't take the jab... The list goes on.... Ooohhhh the fire chief was hired because she was a Lesbian.

I forgot where I was going with this... What a sh!t show... I think the Democrats have flipped the state of California back to red.

Gavin's pumped about running for president in 2028.

I can't wait for Trump to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

Biden was sleeping at Carter's funeral.

God help us.

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On 09 Jan 2025, Ron L. said the following...

The actual problem is the people Sowell calls "The Anointed". These people think that they can run your life better than you and that you
are so stupid that you NEED someone to run your life.

The problem with thinking in terms of "Democrat vs. Republican" is that while The Anointed have taken over the Democrat party today, they can do the same to the Republican party tomorrow.

I think we are coming to a point in our lives where these people are being exposed to the sleepiest of our crowd.

But then again Liz might be getting a pardon from Joe on crimes she didn't commit.

Exactly. But The Anointed Ones don't want that because they so strongly believe that they can run your life better than you.

Well... Lets see how this plays out

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

But then again Liz might be getting a pardon from Joe on crimes she
didn't commit.

If she didn't commit a crime, Joe can't give her a Pardon.

Joe can't hand you a pardon for Murder and then let you go off and murder someone and you get away with it.

Liz hasn't been charged. So what's Joe pardoning her for? IHMO: I think most of these pardons will be challenged and thrown out.

Let's assume Liz does gets a Pardon for her actions on the Jan. 6 committee. She still has to show up in court and answer questions. Because of the Pardon, she can no longer plead the 5th. And Purjury won't be part of the Pardon.

Well... Lets see how this plays out

It will be an interesting year, that's for sure. No need for dramatized "reality TV" for a while.


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On 10 Jan 2025, Ron L. said the following...

If she didn't commit a crime, Joe can't give her a Pardon.

Joe can't hand you a pardon for Murder and then let you go off and murder someone and you get away with it.

Liz hasn't been charged. So what's Joe pardoning her for? IHMO: I
think most of these pardons will be challenged and thrown out.

Let's assume Liz does gets a Pardon for her actions on the Jan. 6 committee. She still has to show up in court and answer questions. Because of the Pardon, she can no longer plead the 5th. And Purjury
won't be part of the Pardon.

It was on the news the other day that Joe said he's considering a pardon for Liz and Fauci ... apparently he thinks he can do it.

At this point I don't care about justice as much as I would like to see history reflect the truth.

If Liz was an honest player, and the courts Lawfare, so be it. But an honest review is needed.

It will be an interesting year, that's for sure. No need for dramatized "reality TV" for a while.

I have my popcorn.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

It was on the news the other day that Joe said he's considering a
pardon for Liz and Fauci ... apparently he thinks he can do it.

Ya, but he still thinks that he could have won against Trump in the last election.

At this point I don't care about justice as much as I would like to see history reflect the truth.

If Liz was an honest player, and the courts Lawfare, so be it. But an honest review is needed.

I think this is what people really want too.

We want the curtains thrown back and see what **really** happened and who did it.

Most of us are frustrated at knowing that all we have is a theory that matches what little we can see. We know that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg, but we have no way of seeing the rest.


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