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  • MAGA is falling apart

    From Joseph Pereira@1:103/705 to All on Tue Apr 28 04:45:51 2026

    The people who made MAGA big — Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Marjorie Taylor Greene — are now turning away from it. It finally seems to be dawning on them that Trump himself is part of “the swamp” and that they have been misled for years.

    That does not suddenly make them morally credible. Their worldview remains problematic and harmful. But after years of denial, they now at least acknowledge that they were lied to.

    They accepted everything: his behavior, his scandals, even after countless convictions. Apparently, an overwhelming amount of evidence was needed before doubt arose. And even now, it is uncertain how deep that doubt runs — if it suits them, they can rally behind him just as quickly.

    Child abuse, sexual violence, the separation of families, violence against protesters, an attempted coup, arbitrary arrests of people who look “foreign,” structural corruption — none of that was a breaking point for them. They deliberately looked away. Only when a core promise — no new wars in the Middle East — was visibly broken did things begin to shift.

    They remain controversial figures. But the fact that they are now, finally, pushing back is significant in itself. It may cause a part of their support base to doubt and weaken the blind loyalty to Trump and his circle.

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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Joseph Pereira on Tue Apr 28 14:39:29 2026
    Joseph Pereira -> All skrev 2026-04-28 13:45:
    That does not suddenly make them morally credible.

    True. Remember remember the 5th of November 2024, when 77M USAians voted for the start of the decline of the US Empire.



    "There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonour will remain."

    -- Liz Cheney (R) June 9 2022


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  • From Matthew Munson@1:218/109 to Bj╓rn Felten on Tue Apr 28 19:16:00 2026
    Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Joseph Pereira <=-

    "There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonour will remain."

    -- Liz Cheney (R) June 9 2022

    Liz Cheney was a joke even before Trump was in power.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Matthew Munson on Wed Apr 29 09:18:11 2026
    Matthew Munson -> Björn Felten skrev 2026-04-29 04:16:
    "There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonour
    will remain."

    And now you have signed up for it as well. Congratulations.


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