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  • Re: More held back pacakages

    From Richard Kettlewell@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Jan 6 11:47:37 2024
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
    $ sudo apt-get upgrade -y
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    libcamera-apps-lite libcamera-ipa libcamera0.1
    linux-headers-rpi-2712 linux-headers-rpi-v8 linux-image-rpi-2712
    linux-image-rpi-v8 raspberrypi-sys-mods raspi-utils


    Why?

    At least three possibilities.

    1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never
    removes packages or installs new ones.
    Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

    2) They’ve been explicitly put on hold by the operator.
    Use ‘apt-mark showhold’ to check and ‘apt-mark unhold’ to fix.

    3) They’re marked upstream for phased updates.
    Assuming you’re using standard Debian and RPi OS mirrors, they
    aren’t.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to All on Sat Jan 6 11:20:20 2024
    $ sudo apt-get upgrade -y
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    libcamera-apps-lite libcamera-ipa libcamera0.1 linux-headers-rpi-2712 linux-headers-rpi-v8 linux-image-rpi-2712
    linux-image-rpi-v8 raspberrypi-sys-mods raspi-utils


    Why?

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    —Soren Kierkegaard

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  • From Anssi Saari@3:770/3 to Richard Kettlewell on Mon Jan 8 11:00:34 2024
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

    1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never
    removes packages or installs new ones.
    Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

    Someone recently pointed out you can also do

    apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

    to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

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  • From The Nomad@3:770/3 to anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi on Mon Jan 8 09:16:31 2024
    On Mon, 08 Jan 2024 11:00:34 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

    1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it
    never
    removes packages or installs new ones.
    Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

    Someone recently pointed out you can also do

    apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

    to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

    Except it doesn't

    <quote>
    sudo apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    python3-update-manager update-manager-core
    0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2 not to upgrade.
    </quote>

    Avpx
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Anssi Saari on Mon Jan 8 12:38:07 2024
    On 08/01/2024 09:00, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

    1) Installing them would breach the ‘apt-get upgrade’ rule that it never >> removes packages or installs new ones.
    Solution: ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’.

    Someone recently pointed out you can also do

    apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs

    to get around that. Kernel updates always require a new package.

    That is probably what I need to do.

    I am not sure I will...after what happened last time a new kernel was
    supposed to be installed!

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