• BBS-independent MRC client (door)?

    From Alpha@21:4/158 to All on Sat Feb 20 16:59:25 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have
    been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to
    have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g.
    native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be
    greatly appreciated :)

    Cheers!



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  • From Barmed@21:4/127 to Alpha on Sat Feb 20 19:59:34 2021
    On 20 Feb 2021, Alpha said the following...
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I think that there was sonething along those lines at one time. I seem to recall some sort of chat thing across some local BBSes back when.

    I don't think strictly speaking MRC is necessarily Mystic only. I would think that if someone managed a port to work with a different BBS program that as long as it could connect to the same server the Mystic boards use, it should work.

    But I'm not that much of a programmer. And what I do fiddle with is
    primarily text based games so no help there.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Alpha on Sat Feb 20 21:07:30 2021
    `07*** Quoting Alpha from a message to All ***`07

    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
    have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've
    seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it
    be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program?

    I was just thinking about this! I'm re-setting up Telegard yet again for no particular reason and was looking at MRC. I quickly gave up on that, but it would be cool to get "legacy" BBSes on MRC as well.

    Jay

    ... A great deal of money is never enough once you have it.

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110.1)
  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Alpha on Sat Feb 20 20:36:02 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    Cheers!



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    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using
    wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Alpha on Sun Feb 21 09:26:44 2021
    I'm the World's Worst Programmer, and while I have been dabbling in door programs, this is *probably* over my head. But I'd like to try.

    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his permission before making an attempt.

    :: XQTR :: Another Droid BBS :: andr01d.zapto.org:9999 :: xqtr@gmx.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Another Droid BBS # andr01d.zapto.org:9999 (21:1/111)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to xqtr on Sun Feb 21 08:12:19 2021
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
    contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
    permission before making an attempt.

    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client
    projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    I was thinking of something akin to apam's MagiChat door, but for MRC.

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/magichat-ssl-door

    (that's a really awsewome chat door, BTW)


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Sun Feb 21 05:07:09 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a Synchronet port by eChicken... But was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    I am no developer, but it seems like some other folks are also working on MRC;

    Stackfault has said that he's thinking about an update to add functionality, kind of an MRC 2.0 where he fixes some things and gives it a little more ability.

    aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE sometime next week.

    MeaTLoTioN mentioned in passing that he might wanna add some functions to his Johnny5 BOT...

    even newcomers, like NUKE of Westwood, were trying to fart around and make the ENiGMA.5 version of MRC work a little better with /commands.

    -----
    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time and/or keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may have just experienced or went thru??

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at 100 BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and can go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I think your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.



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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Alpha on Sun Feb 21 17:02:50 2021
    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client

    Nope... MRC is not IRC. You should contact the programmer of MRC to learn about it (protocol etc.).

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to paulie420 on Sun Feb 21 10:49:03 2021
    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out
    to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time
    and/or keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may
    have just experienced or went thru??

    Exactly why I'm posting, just asking... Thanks for the pointers to all
    the folks working on them. If I actually get serious about this (heh),
    that'd be a really good start.

    I like to look at code! I'm running through the MRC Python scripts, just
    to get an idea of what's going on. If there's an MRC implementation in Enigma/node.js, that's super helpful just to see how it all works.

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel
    the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any
    doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at
    100 BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and
    can go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I
    think your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would
    service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.

    Thanks, Paulie420!


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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to xqtr on Sun Feb 21 10:50:09 2021
    Nope... MRC is not IRC. You should contact the programmer of MRC to
    learn about it (protocol etc.).

    xqtr: thanks! That'd be a good next step...

    Cheers,

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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to Alpha on Sun Feb 21 15:31:57 2021

    On Saturday, February 20th Alpha muttered...
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    The MRC protocol is incredibly simple. If you look at contrib mrc.js module in enigma it's not a large file at all. Someone could come along and write one in a compiled language, but then you also have to deal with various systems/architectures. A version written in standalone Node.js or Python for example could go a long way -- but even then people wanting to hook up a more retro setup would be in the dust.

    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.





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  • From roovis@21:4/165 to NuSkooler on Sun Feb 21 17:31:39 2021
    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    StackFault mentioned that encryption is in the works. I don't know about decentralization.

    -roovis

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Alpha on Mon Feb 22 19:41:38 2021
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his permission before making an attempt.

    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    I was thinking of something akin to apam's MagiChat door, but for MRC.

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/magichat-ssl-door

    (that's a really awsewome chat door, BTW)


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    Actually, MRC (Mystic Relay Chat) is open source and is written in
    Python and MPL -- both of which are all in source.

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Feb 23 07:39:58 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that ha been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen a

    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using
    wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

    Reach out to me and I can help with the protocol specs and all that.

    More than welcome to have other platforms on it.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to xqtr on Tue Feb 23 07:41:31 2021
    I think MRC client/server is a closed-source project. You have to
    contact the group/programmer who's responsible and ask for his
    permission before making an attempt.

    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that
    documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we can work together to make it go forward.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Alpha on Tue Feb 23 07:42:52 2021
    Ah, I see. My next quesiton was -- does the Mystic MRC mod just use
    the IRC protocol? There are a couple boiler-plate, open source client projects I've been playing around with if that was the case.

    No it's using a simplified protocol which is maintained to allow for legacy
    but there is a new protocol in the making that will support features unavailable in the current implementation, while maintaining backward compatibility.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Tue Feb 23 07:47:29 2021
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    I am no developer, but it seems like some other folks are also working
    on MRC;

    Stackfault has said that he's thinking about an update to add functionality, kind of an MRC 2.0 where he fixes some things and gives
    it a little more ability.

    I maintain the server portion and the documentation wiki, any serious
    developer can reach out to me and we will work something out.

    aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE
    sometime next week.

    It's gonna be daBomb! MRC on CNet is really cool!

    MeaTLoTioN mentioned in passing that he might wanna add some functions
    to his Johnny5 BOT...

    New MRC version has support for utility and services, this will add the possibility to developers wanting to develop services to use MRC to give an interface. This will use a distinct entry point and services will be limited
    to their own rooms or private messages to avoid cluttering the chat rooms.

    even newcomers, like NUKE of Westwood, were trying to fart around and
    make the ENiGMA.5 version of MRC work a little better with /commands.

    Absolutely!

    My point is, remember that theres community here. Maybe reaching out to one or more of these rockstars would save you a bunch of time and/or
    keep you away from hitting deadends or issues that they may have just experienced or went thru??

    While MRC is rock-solid on the Mystic BBS Platform, you really feel the differences when going to almost any other platform. I invite any doors that will allow more sysOps to run and use MRC... we're right at 100
    BBSes connected to MRC - and I think that its STILL in infancy and can
    go higher. There are entire softwares with no MRC solution... I think
    your idea of a door-based MRC client is a good one, that would service MANY of the 'other' BBS softwares. The WWIV guys would dig it, amongst others.

    Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll make it happen.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to NuSkooler on Tue Feb 23 07:52:15 2021
    On Saturday, February 20th Alpha muttered...
    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would be greatly appreciated :)

    The MRC protocol is incredibly simple. If you look at contrib mrc.js module in enigma it's not a large file at all. Someone could come along and write one in a compiled language, but then you also have to deal
    with various systems/architectures. A version written in standalone Node.js or Python for example could go a long way -- but even then
    people wanting to hook up a more retro setup would be in the dust.

    The current protocol is really simple but has some shortcomings that I'm looking at fixing with version 2.

    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lacks what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    These are in the plans to some extent, encryption might drive additional challenges for some platforms. Decentralization is another thing I'd like to add, at this stage I'm looking at remove SPOF by having a multiple hub model. Complete decentralization may come to life at a later time.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to roovis on Tue Feb 23 07:58:14 2021
    The enig version definitely need more, but TBH MRC at least to me lac what I *really* want which is decentralization, encryption, etc.

    StackFault mentioned that encryption is in the works. I don't know about decentralization.

    Yes, encryption will be available at two levels

    TLS at the transport level and opportunistic symmetric at the E2E level for private messages and secure rooms. This may be used for authenticity
    validation as well, more on this later.

    Rooms will also have a TLS tag, meaning some rooms may require you to connect over a TLS channel to enter. This will still allow non-encrypted BBS to connect to MRC, without being able to get into the secure rooms.

    Also, the whole message distribution model is changing from broadcast to unicast with a greater focus on privacy, obviously.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Feb 23 08:00:47 2021
    Actually, MRC (Mystic Relay Chat) is open source and is written in
    Python and MPL -- both of which are all in source.

    Mystic Relay Chat is legacy and is not longer supported.

    The currently maintained version, Multi Relay Chat, (keeping the acronym) has
    a whole new server code, support for other platforms like Enigma, Synchronet, CNet, etc and almost 70% code change on the client side.

    Using an old client will connect to the new server but mileage will vary in
    the experience satisfaction.

    Cheers!

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:2/136 to Stackfault on Tue Feb 23 13:51:50 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that
    been happening... There's the Mystic BBS MPL version, and I've seen

    Yeah, personally I would not mind writing one for Wildcat! using wcBASIC, but not exactly sure where to begin with that or how the communications are handled with the protocol.

    Reach out to me and I can help with the protocol specs and all that.

    More than welcome to have other platforms on it.

    Cheers!

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    If you could, email me at admin@winserver.org with the specs and I will
    see what I can do :)

    ... I am Locutus of Borg. This Tagline is irrelevant.
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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Feb 23 19:02:32 2021
    If you could, email me at admin@winserver.org with the specs and I will see what I can do :)

    Email away.

    Cheers!

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  • From Exodus@21:1/163 to StackFault on Tue Feb 23 17:28:02 2021
    see what I can do :)

    I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would love to see it.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to StackFault on Tue Feb 23 18:11:04 2021
    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out
    and we
    can work together to make it go forward.

    Cheers!

    I guess that counts me out then


    :)


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Exodus on Tue Feb 23 21:39:04 2021
    `07*** Quoting Exodus from a message to StackFault ***`07

    I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would
    love to see it.

    Ditto. If an .exe were made available with door32.sys support I could add
    MRC to Telegard! :)

    Jay

    ... A day for firm decisions!!!!! Or is it?

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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Alpha on Tue Feb 23 11:31:54 2021
    MRC is mostly in python which will run on most systems. So an independent version should be possible without much change. There are already multiple versions for different OS under Mystic, just need to adapt to other
    platforms. Seems like the CRT library for display could take over for the display hooks for Mystic currently being used. I think that's all that
    needs changing. Are there python doors out there? In truth it doesn't need
    to be tied to BBS in anyway - it can be an independent program like any
    chat client.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Warpslide on Tue Feb 23 11:49:32 2021
    On 20 Feb 2021, Warpslide said the following...

    I was just thinking about this! I'm re-setting up Telegard yet again
    for no particular reason and was looking at MRC. I quickly gave up on that, but it would be cool to get "legacy" BBSes on MRC as well.

    Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it in
    the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well
    go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
    Pretty much all BBS used are telnet like IRC can be, which is pretty much
    how that started (as chat clients). It seems many want to turn MRC in to a monster - will it grow till it can send and receive email? As the old Unix joke goes...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)
  • From Exodus@1:0/0 to Bcw142 on Wed Feb 24 20:12:52 2021
    Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it in the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)
    Pretty much all BBS used are telnet like IRC can be, which is pretty much how that started (as chat clients). It seems many want to turn MRC in to a monster - will it grow till it can send and receive email? As the old Unix

    I just want a chat door that does what my IRC chat door does, but you know with more people interacting. ;)

    ... LABEL NOT FOUND: go anywhere you like.

    --- Renegade v1.22/DOS
    * Origin: PB Renegade (gapbbs.rdfig.net:2424) Mesquite, Tx (0:0/0)
  • From Exodus@1:0/0 to Zazz on Wed Feb 24 20:13:40 2021
    * Origin: PB Renegade (gapbbs.rdfig.net:2424) Mesquite, Tx (0:0/0)

    You need to fix your node address. :)

    ... Real programmers innovate, others LITIGATE !

    --- Renegade v1.22/DOS
    * Origin: PB Renegade (gapbbs.rdfig.net:2424) Mesquite, Tx (0:0/0)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Exodus on Wed Feb 24 19:27:25 2021
    I just want a chat door that does what my IRC chat door does, but you
    know
    with more people interacting. ;)

    Agreed!


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    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to StackFault on Wed Feb 24 19:15:30 2021
    aNACHRONIST is well on his way to porting MRC to the cNet Amiga BBS Software; he reports that it should be up and running on aBSINTHE sometime next week.

    It's gonna be daBomb! MRC on CNet is really cool!

    You know, I kinda sniff around any BBS thats worth its weight pretty deeply. And aBSINTHE is my FAVORITE BBS, hands down. Anyway, I went on over very early this week and was hunting for any signs of cNet MRC... and I found one. Pressed the button, and was dumped in cNet MRC - It worked really flipping nicely, and even most commands were firing correctly. I found one that wasn't working, and eased on out of there... when I was quickly brought into chat by aNACHRONIST. Seems that it wasn't ready for prime time, and he just forgot to remove access to the command! LOL. So I can say that its looking great, heck I thought it was done. :P He said it would be done sometime this week, and I have an inkling that you might even be able to find it today or tomorrow, on aBSINTHE.

    [2nd plug for aBSINTHE, he has the BEST MODS in the business, too. And none are cookie cutter. My favorite, right now, is the AFK/BRB mod that pops up if you sit idly for awhile... I was thinking about creating something like this for Mystic... but man guys, if you wanna get motivated to be a better sysOp... goto aBSINTHE. Don't be concerned that its cNet... you'll still learn a few things!]

    I maintain the server portion and the documentation wiki, any serious developer can reach out to me and we will work something out.

    New MRC version has support for utility and services, this will add the possibility to developers wanting to develop services to use MRC to give an interface. This will use a distinct entry point and services will be limited to their own rooms or private messages to avoid cluttering the chat rooms.

    Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll
    make it happen.

    Cheers!

    All of these are the reasons MRC IS the BBS chat server of my choice. SF said it right there, ladies n gents... anyone serious about creating for MRC just reach out and Stack will make sure you have what you need to do your work. Great on you, SF... yer awesome & the BBS world is bettter for having you. THANKS.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Wed Feb 24 19:34:41 2021
    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we
    can work together to make it go forward.

    I guess that counts me out then
    [] Alpha

    I don't know SF personally... but I have chatted with him a bit and - I bet it you really wanna give it a crack, he'd give you the info you need. I don't know your skill level- I know I don't even know half the terms he was using to describe the new MRC system- but... if you wanna try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an email. :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.

    You did great on the small autosig mod for Talis... that I'm still interested in, yet its NO pressing matter as I don't really do a LOT on my Talisman BBS. :P



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to paulie420 on Thu Feb 25 07:02:22 2021
    I don't know SF personally... but I have chatted with him a bit and -
    I bet it you really wanna give it a crack, he'd give you the info you
    need. I don't know your skill level- I know I don't even know half the
    terms he was using to describe the new MRC system- but... if you wanna
    try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an
    email. :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.

    You did great on the small autosig mod for Talis... that I'm still interested in, yet its NO pressing matter as I don't really do a LOT
    on my Talisman BBS. :P

    You're the best, Paulie420. Thanks.

    I'll def. reach out. I'm curious about SF's thoughts on how we might
    create an MRC-based door that any BBS could use. the UI on the MPL
    version is pretty dang tight, I feel like that's the bar for the
    experience for sure.

    Also -- going to burn off testable versions of the Autosig mod this week
    for Linux, Pi and Windows! Thanks for reminding me :)

    I've been spending my free time on a re-creating a door game, based on a classic Flash game (Don't Shit Your Pants), and it's getting close to
    being ready to test... Which means my confidence is growing to do the basics--loops, functions, state management, text and ANSI handling,
    connection management, etc. SO I might qualify as more serious soon :) Ha

    Best,

    |03[] |12Alpha
    |02TheDrunkenGamer.com|06:|108888
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    --- Talisman v0.10-dev (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Thu Feb 25 13:32:52 2021
    try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an email.
    :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.

    Serious developer means someone with a real intention to give back to the community and have more than 5 minutes of attention span to something. Not pointing or thinking about anyone in particular really, but just someone with
    a real interest, qualify to this IMO. Too many bystanders making comments without putting a single line of code into anything nowadays... again, not pointing anyone.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Alpha on Thu Feb 25 13:36:54 2021
    I'll def. reach out. I'm curious about SF's thoughts on how we might create an MRC-based door that any BBS could use. the UI on the MPL
    version is pretty dang tight, I feel like that's the bar for the experience for sure.

    Good that I'm right here! :)

    At the moment, I'm focusing more on the protocol improvement, E2E encryption, service extensions, high availability and other infrastructure change to think about the client side just yet.

    I'll always keep a Mystic client running with the latest but will need developers building clients for other platforms to maintain their client (or keep using the legacy protocol without the added features).

    I also want to move most of the stuff to the server side so client implementation are simpler and have less features to implement.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to bcw142 on Thu Feb 25 13:41:23 2021
    Seems like we're drifting further and further from why Gryphon made it
    in the first place - to test the new python hooks on Mystic. We might as well go back to old IRC in a separate window the way we used to ;)

    That's why alternatives are great, you can implement the solution you prefer most. I like to way MRC is reachable only from a BBS, this creates a
    different experience. It's also getting great response and we're at the edge
    of 100 permanently connected BBSes, spanning Mystic, Synchronet, Enigma
    1/2, CyberBBS and now CNet. This have come a long way since the original was made. Options, options, this is the greatness of BBSing isn't it?

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Exodus on Thu Feb 25 13:43:11 2021
    I just want a chat door that does what my IRC chat door does, but you
    know with more people interacting. ;)

    Exactly, and that's the cool part of MRC, while it's not constantly busy,
    there are periods with 25+ persons involved, which is not too bad. I rarely
    see that on IRC (some exceptions for sure) nowadays.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to bcw142 on Thu Feb 25 13:46:48 2021
    MRC is mostly in python which will run on most systems. So an independent version should be possible without much change. There are already
    multiple versions for different OS under Mystic, just need to adapt to other platforms. Seems like the CRT library for display could take over for the display hooks for Mystic currently being used. I think that's
    all that needs changing. Are there python doors out there? In truth it doesn't need to be tied to BBS in anyway - it can be an independent program like any chat client.

    Currently there is 3 components to MRC, an MPL UI, a Python multiplexer and a central server. The first 2 are on the BBS side, so in theory this could be ported to any platform.

    As for the independent portion, I prefer it's tied to a BBS to maintain it's difference with other platforms (like IRC), if you want a distinct client, IRC will be the best answer to that.

    However, I'm thinking about something interesting... more to come.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Warpslide on Thu Feb 25 13:48:15 2021
    I would love to see this made into a door program for door.sys or door32.sys .... Win32 code is over my head so I'm out ... but would love to see it.

    Ditto. If an .exe were made available with door32.sys support I could
    add MRC to Telegard! :)

    Too bad I'm not a Windows guy, that could be easy enough to do. I'm sure someone will get interested once the MRC networks reaches 150 boards.

    Cheers!

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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to Alpha on Thu Feb 25 13:48:51 2021
    Client part is open, server part is not yet but there is a wiki that documents the protocol. Any serious developer is welcome to reach out and we
    can work together to make it go forward.

    Cheers!

    I guess that counts me out then

    On the developer or the serious part? :)

    Cheers!

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Alpha on Sun Feb 28 11:24:01 2021
    I don't know SF personally... but I have chatted with him a bit and -
    I bet it you really wanna give it a crack, he'd give you the info you need. I don't know your skill level- I know I don't even know half the terms he was using to describe the new MRC system- but... if you wanna
    try to create something that can be used on Talisman, give SF an
    email. :P 'serious developer' doesn't mean 'only the best developers'.

    You did great on the small autosig mod for Talis... that I'm still interested in, yet its NO pressing matter as I don't really do a LOT
    on my Talisman BBS. :P

    You're the best, Paulie420. Thanks.

    I'll def. reach out. I'm curious about SF's thoughts on how we might create an MRC-based door that any BBS could use. the UI on the MPL
    version is pretty dang tight, I feel like that's the bar for the experience for sure.

    Also -- going to burn off testable versions of the Autosig mod this week for Linux, Pi and Windows! Thanks for reminding me :)

    I've been spending my free time on a re-creating a door game, based on a classic Flash game (Don't Shit Your Pants), and it's getting close to being ready to test... Which means my confidence is growing to do the basics--loops, functions, state management, text and ANSI handling, connection management, etc. SO I might qualify as more serious soon :) Ha

    Best,

    [] Alpha

    Dang dudes, I quoted too much there - anyway, I gotta run over to card and claw today, Alpha. Its really cool to hear that your developing a door - I've been playing with jACK pHLASHs REFDoor, which is a scripting language much like the LORD door extensions of past... jACK has kept it up to date and its... pretty neat. For building things like an online BBS ZINE.

    But... I'm interested, in passing, of how your coding your stuff. What language/software/etc? I am not a coder, but I can fart around in MPS/MPL/MPY enough to get in trouble... and its neat that you're creating and seem like you have some similar amount of knowledge, more/less...

    How are you creating your magic, Alpha-wizard???



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to StackFault on Sun Feb 28 11:27:06 2021
    Serious developer means someone with a real intention to give back to the community and have more than 5 minutes of attention span to something.
    Not pointing or thinking about anyone in particular really, but just someone with a real interest, qualify to this IMO. Too many bystanders making comments without putting a single line of code into anything nowadays... again, not pointing anyone.
    Cheers!

    ▀ ▐ StackFault <..PhENoM..>

    B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... but most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.

    I'm working at doing more stuff - and while I'm getting beyond JUST the visual, it still at the Mystic-level... changing acs's and stuff.. I hope to go over the edge and start working with files and doing a little more, soon.

    I'm currently working on a couple deeper things, but I too get stuck at the 'talk about it' phase often. One day soon, SF... one day soon.

    Its really awesome that you're willing to help the community so long as folks are willing to put in the work. No response needed, but you're seen. Thanks.



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to paulie420 on Sun Feb 28 15:42:14 2021
    But... I'm interested, in passing, of how your coding your stuff. What language/software/etc? I am not a coder, but I can fart around in MPS/MPL/MPY enough to get in trouble... and its neat that you're
    creating and seem like you have some similar amount of knowledge, more/less...

    How are you creating your magic, Alpha-wizard???

    Ha, yes! I used to be in front-end web dev, so have done a fair share of javascript over the years, dabbled in python, etc., but then this year I decided to try learn something new because I wanted to create door-type
    stuff. C or more Javascript would have proably been the logical place to
    dive in, but after some experimentation, I decided to go all-in on Go. I
    took a couple Udemy courses and just started hacking! I wouldn't consider myself a coder by any stretch, either...

    Go is similar to C, but with n eye toward simplicity and safety. I dig
    it. And it's the first compiled language I've learned. Still SO much to
    learn, but the cool thing I've found about door-type programs once you
    have a good input/output loop, it sort of powers anything you want to do. Over-simplifying it for sure :)

    I think Mystic's embedded Pascal (and Talisman's embedded Lua) are GREAT
    ways to do lots of things, make it so much easier to do things in/with
    user data.

    If anyone is looking to learn GO, this is a good course: https://www.udemy.com/course/learn-how-to-code/

    Stephen Grinder's course is probably good, too, and more recent -- but
    it's pretty expensive.

    Can't wait to see more of your stuff, Paulie!

    |03[] |12Alpha
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    --- Talisman v0.10-dev (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: The Drunken Gamer BBS (21:4/158)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Tue Mar 2 06:51:12 2021
    Serious developer means someone with a real intention to give back to community and have more than 5 minutes of attention span to something

    B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and
    have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... but most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.

    Well, there are multiple ways to help.

    I'm working at doing more stuff - and while I'm getting beyond JUST the visual, it still at the Mystic-level... changing acs's and stuff.. I
    hope to go over the edge and start working with files and doing a little more, soon.

    Keep going, the little stuff is also important, it teaches you a lot and
    slowly you'll get into more stuff. Most of my mods are never released, people uses them on my board without knowing it or it's SysOp side, to help with management tasks. I may release them one day but it's not urgent for me just yet.

    I'm currently working on a couple deeper things, but I too get stuck at the 'talk about it' phase often. One day soon, SF... one day soon.

    Learn to marathon, not to sprint. :)

    Its really awesome that you're willing to help the community so long as folks are willing to put in the work. No response needed, but you're
    seen. Thanks.

    :)

    Cheers!

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to StackFault on Wed Mar 3 17:34:32 2021
    B00M, there it is. :P I am getting my hands wet with simple MPL, and have made a mod or two with RCS, Black Panther and The Godfather... b most of my stuff has been sticking at that visual level.

    Well, there are multiple ways to help.

    I am willing to help in any ways that Paulie420 can, SF. With MRC, with other projects, with creating the small things that I do. I just reached out to you about a small project. (netmail)

    Keep going, the little stuff is also important, it teaches you a lot and slowly you'll get into more stuff. Most of my mods are never released, people uses them on my board without knowing it or it's SysOp side, to help with management tasks. I may release them one day but it's not
    urgent for me just yet.

    Appreciate your words, and I do think I've created a few things that are.... good for the BBS community. I ain't stopping, daddio.

    Cheers.



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  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to paulie420 on Thu Mar 4 06:14:49 2021
    Well, there are multiple ways to help.

    I am willing to help in any ways that Paulie420 can, SF. With MRC, with other projects, with creating the small things that I do. I just reached out to you about a small project. (netmail)

    Appreciate your words, and I do think I've created a few things that are.... good for the BBS community. I ain't stopping, daddio.

    That's very good!

    Cheers!

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  • From jokker@21:4/154 to StackFault on Mon Mar 8 23:19:36 2021
    Send anyone my way if they are serious about developing it and we'll
    make ithappen.

    So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP stack. I found an archive that had a python client, server and MPL example. So I've managed to cobble something together that can generally talk to the server at the protocol level. I figure I'll flush it out as a simple DOS client first and then move it over to OpenDoors as a BBS door. If I can find the netware TCP SDK I may compile a version for that stack as well. I suppose doing a pure pkt driver one as well is likely to follow. I guess the sky is the limit in this DOS eat DOS world. :D

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (21:4/154)
  • From StackFault@21:1/172 to jokker on Tue Mar 9 09:52:43 2021
    So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work
    for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP

    That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.

    Let me know if you need anything.

    Cheers!

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    |11 ▌ ▀ |11The Bottomless Abyss BBS
    |03 ▀ ▌▀ |03ssh|08.|072222 |08/ |03telnet|08.|072023 |08/ |03https
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)
  • From Ragnarok@21:2/151 to StackFault on Tue Mar 9 19:38:50 2021
    El 9/3/21 a las 11:52, StackFault escribió:
    jo> So for fun I figured I'd try to write a version of MRC that would work
    jo> for my BBS, which is DOS based QuickBBS and using the MSLANMAN TCPIP

    That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.

    Let me know if you need anything.

    I recommend to suppotr mtcp, is better tcp stack than mstcp

    Saludos!
    --- SBBSecho 3.13-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - bbs.docksud.com.ar - Argentina (21:2/151)
  • From jokker@21:4/154 to Ragnarok on Tue Mar 9 23:14:18 2021
    That's awesome! Running something in DOS would really increase the availability. I've answered your email so you should be good to start.

    Let me know if you need anything.

    I recommend to suppotr mtcp, is better tcp stack than mstcp

    Yeah it'll probably be both since I use MSTCP for hitting up SMB shares. I've played with the mtcp stack before and it won't be hard to port it. I'd do it for Netware TCP just for the heck it. :P

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (21:4/154)
  • From opicron@21:3/126 to Alpha on Tue May 18 18:01:48 2021
    MRC is where it's at right now, especially with all the meatups that have have one that was BBS-independent, and just ran as a door program? E.g. native Linux, Windows, Pi, etc. Any BBS system could use it, then.
    I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with sysop
    and multinode chat) It connects to an (password protected if chosen) channel
    on any irc server (with ssl if needed). I am planning to release it soonish,
    I can even host the irc channels if required.

    Any pointers that developers in this community can give me, would
    be Al> greatly appreciated :)
    Log into bbs.opicron.eu to check it out, give me a yell if you have some questions.

    L8er
    oP!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: TheForze - bbs.opicron.eu:23 (21:3/126)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to opicron on Wed May 19 15:20:10 2021
    I have made a mystic IRC chat (which doubles as live pager/chat with
    sysop and multinode chat) It connects to an (password protected if
    chosen) channel on any irc server (with ssl if needed). I am planning to release it soonish, I can even host the irc channels if required.

    While I'm an MRC guy, I like your work and will head over to checkout what wizardry yer cooking up with IRC.

    I liked your text-page sysop work and wanna see what you've done now.

    I wish there was a better/good page sysOp thing in Mystic... I don't even think the stock one really works - or at least not on 2o.



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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/19 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to paulie420 on Thu May 20 11:46:25 2021
    On 19 May 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    I wish there was a better/good page sysOp thing in Mystic... I don't
    even think
    the stock one really works - or at least not on 2o.

    Nope, wasn't setup to as there were addons that did it. Doors and the like. I'm not sure if g00r00 has fixed it, but there have been a few addons added
    in the last few years that do it. Hopefully this new IRC one can do it too
    and we'll use that and have an IRC for each board or something.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/05/17 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)