I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, I need to
also get a node/net number?

Grease
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On 31 Oct 2019 at 01:24p, Grease pondered and said...

I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, I need to also get a node/net number?

My hunch is that the answer to that question is yes as a standard HUB normally tosses files to a node number and the TIC that ships with a file contains
the usual FTN addressing schema used by nodes 21:x/xxx

Dan - what are your thoughts? I'm not across how you have Synchronet set up
but recall reading a thread between you and Al about this subject recently.

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I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, I need to also get a node/net number?

I don't think so. BP can just put files in your QWKNODE.out directory and
you will get them in your QWKNODE.in directory then you can put them
where you want them to go.

BP may give you a point address just to send you tic's along with these
files. That would be an easy way (not really) for him to get those files
to you. You may be able to use tickit to move those files into your
filebase. You'd need to move those file into your inbound for tickit to
do what it does. If you don't want the tic's you could just delete them.

It would take a bit of experimentation but you could use this method to
get the files hatched on the FTN side of fsxNet (or any files, I suppose)
to your QWK node.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, I need to also get a node/net number?

My hunch is that the answer to that question is yes as a standard HUB normally tosses files to a node number and the TIC that ships with a
file contains the usual FTN addressing schema used by nodes 21:x/xxx

To send files to a QWK node BP just needs to copy them to the QWK nodes QWKIN.out directory and they will arrive (after the QWKNODE polls) in
that nodes QWKID.in directory. In that case they will stay there until
they are moved away.

It's an idea to assign a point address to QWK nodes (who want files) so
when Mystic tosses inbound files it will send them also to the QWK node,
as a point with tic files and set the filebox to the QWK nodes QWKID.out directory. Quite simple for the FTN hub, and I hope simple for the QWK
node to move the files where they need to be.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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Al wrote to Grease <=-

I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, I need to also get a node/net number?

I don't think so. BP can just put files in your QWKNODE.out directory
and you will get them in your QWKNODE.in directory then you can put
them where you want them to go.

This may be the way to go. I can then just move them into the correct directories.

BP may give you a point address just to send you tic's along with these files. That would be an easy way (not really) for him to get those
files to you. You may be able to use tickit to move those files into
your filebase. You'd need to move those file into your inbound for
tickit to do what it does. If you don't want the tic's you could just delete them.

I don't want to put someone out. I'm just getting into .tic files now.

It would take a bit of experimentation but you could use this method to get the files hatched on the FTN side of fsxNet (or any files, I
suppose) to your QWK node.

I wouldn't mind experimenting. I just don't want to cause a stir.

Grease
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Avon wrote to Grease <=-

Dan - what are your thoughts? I'm not across how you have Synchronet
set up but recall reading a thread between you and Al about this
subject recently.

Al sent a message and discussed either put the files in the qwk.out box to
me or set me up as a point. I don't want to put someone out of their way,
I just would like to receive the files.

I'm willing to try any means you guys come up with. I just don't have
enough experience right now to come up with anything.

Grease
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I don't think so. BP can just put files in your QWKNODE.out directory
and you will get them in your QWKNODE.in directory then you can put
them where you want them to go.

This may be the way to go. I can then just move them into the correct directories.

Yep, it's not hard to do.

Thinking of all this I'm trying to remember the directory to use. I think it's..

/sbbs/data/qnet/QWKID.out (case is important on linux). I suspect BP
would use something like /sbbs/data/qnet/DARKMAT.out and you may find
those files in /sbbs/data/qnet/FSXNET.in or something along those lines.

Anyway, I'll leave you guys with that and if you have questions you know
where to find me.. :)

Ttyl :-)
Al

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Al wrote to Grease <=-

Yep, it's not hard to do.
/sbbs/data/qnet/QWKID.out (case is important on linux). I suspect BP
would use something like /sbbs/data/qnet/DARKMAT.out and you may find those files in /sbbs/data/qnet/FSXNET.in or something along those
lines.

Looks good. I went searching for darkmatt.out or in, and didn't find anything. I did find some vertrauen.xxxx.bad in ../data though. Whereever it shows up, I'm sure I can find it. Thanks for your help.

Grease
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Looks good. I went searching for darkmatt.out or in, and didn't find anything. I did find some vertrauen.xxxx.bad in ../data though.
Whereever it shows up, I'm sure I can find it. Thanks for your help.

Yep, those directories don't exist by default so they need to be created
to do this.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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On 01 Nov 2019, Avon said the following...

I am getting messages through the .qwk network. To receive the files, need to also get a node/net number?

My hunch is that the answer to that question is yes as a standard HUB normally tosses files to a node number and the TIC that ships with a
file contains the usual FTN addressing schema used by nodes 21:x/xxx

Dan - what are your thoughts? I'm not across how you have Synchronet set up but recall reading a thread between you and Al about this subject recently.

Obtaining a node address would be the easiest way. I was going to spend some time this weekend to see if I could get Synchronet to toss the files into a filebox, and send them to the nodes. Each of the QWK nodes would have to have
a tick processor set up, such as tickit, in order to process them on their
end.

I'll keep you posted. :)


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On 31 Oct 2019, Grease said the following...

I don't think so. BP can just put files in your QWKNODE.out directory and you will get them in your QWKNODE.in directory then you can put them where you want them to go.

This may be the way to go. I can then just move them into the correct directories.

This is what I'll work on this weekend. I'm really not feeling like trying to think too hard tonight. ;)

I don't want to put someone out. I'm just getting into .tic files now.

It's not a problem. Now I'm curious how we can get this working for you.

I wouldn't mind experimenting. I just don't want to cause a stir.

I'm also in favor of experimenting. Let's see what we can get set up.


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On 01 Nov 2019 at 09:51p, Black Panther pondered and said...

Obtaining a node address would be the easiest way. I was going to spend

It sounded like a point address may be the way forward to assist this.
I guess you could pick an address and then start to add QWK nodes as points
off that and we list that in SYSTEMS.TXT alongside the QWK entry as well?

That way if anyone want to send netmail to those systems it would route through.

I confess as I type this I hadn't even thought about netmail for those
systems and how it works.

I really need to spend some time and play/setup some QWK stuff.

Still looking for my time machine.

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On 01 Nov 2019 at 09:55p, Black Panther pondered and said...

I don't want to put someone out. I'm just getting into .tic files now

It's not a problem. Now I'm curious how we can get this working for you.

I wouldn't mind experimenting. I just don't want to cause a stir.

I'm also in favor of experimenting. Let's see what we can get set up.

Guys, this is fsxNet - go for it! :)

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That way if anyone want to send netmail to those systems it would route through.

Synchronet does have netmail between nodes but it is an extention, I
believe. I'm not certain it extends to OLRs, but SBBS qwk links can read
and send netmail between them.

They are not FTN in any way though, so they are separate from FTN and
don't need or use any kind of FTN setup.

I'm not sure I am using the correct term there, netmail. They might be
better called email. It's all between the linked QWK nodes. They can send directly to a node or route to a node if there is no direct link.

I'm not sure but I don't think there is a way to bridge the gap between
QWK and FTN as far as these netmail or emails go.

DM has built a good way to do this and other BBSs that support QWK could
do this too, if they wanted to.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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DM has built a good way to do this and other BBSs that support QWK
could do this too, if they wanted to.

One last detail.. :)

Once a network admin has sent out an infopack with the details nodes need
to setup, he/she is done.

Nodes setup and connect when and if they want. They poll when they want
and if they go away for any reason the system will delete their QWK
account for inactivity and if they want back in they setup again.

The network admin needs to keep his system up so others can access it but
that is it. Sit back and enjoy the network.

I'm a big fan of QWK.. :)

Ttyl :-)
Al

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DM has built a good way to do this and other BBSs that support QWK
could do this too, if they wanted to.

DM is the abbreviation for what?

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DM is the abbreviation for what?

Rob Swindell Aka Digital Man, the author of Synchronet BBS.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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On 11-01-19 21:44, Al wrote to Avon <=-

That way if anyone want to send netmail to those systems it would route through.

Synchronet does have netmail between nodes but it is an extention, I believe. I'm not certain it extends to OLRs, but SBBS qwk links can
read and send netmail between them.

You can address a netmail to user@BBSID from an offline reader. It's quite a useful extension.

They are not FTN in any way though, so they are separate from FTN and don't need or use any kind of FTN setup.

I'm not sure I am using the correct term there, netmail. They might be better called email. It's all between the linked QWK nodes. They can
send directly to a node or route to a node if there is no direct link.

I'm not sure but I don't think there is a way to bridge the gap between QWK and FTN as far as these netmail or emails go.

Not at this time, but technically, a gateway could be constructed. The key would be how to format addresses for gateway routing. probably something like user:destaddress@gateway, which would translate to user@destaddress after passing through the gateway. Hmm, maybe something for Digital Man to ponder. :) Whether destaddress and gateway contain a FTN or QWK address depends on which direction the netmail is travelling.

What SBBS's QWK support doesn't do though is TIC style file echos.


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You can address a netmail to user@BBSID from an offline reader. It's quite a useful extension.

Good to know. I rarely use offline anymore so wasn't sure about that.

What SBBS's QWK support doesn't do though is TIC style file echos.

I think it can be done but files need to be moved to the inbound so it's
not as simple as FTN. It's possible that tickit could support tic's from
QWK nodes I think but haven't really delved into it. Maybe if this test
works out some feedback to the SBBS developers re: "ways to make it
easier" could be done.

Have to flesh out the details.

Ttyl :-)
Al

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On 11-02-19 04:33, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You can address a netmail to user@BBSID from an offline reader. It's quite a useful extension.

Good to know. I rarely use offline anymore so wasn't sure about that.

Yeah DM made sure user@address works for all netmail/email types - FTN, QWK and Internet.

What SBBS's QWK support doesn't do though is TIC style file echos.

I think it can be done but files need to be moved to the inbound so
it's not as simple as FTN. It's possible that tickit could support
tic's from QWK nodes I think but haven't really delved into it. Maybe
if this test works out some feedback to the SBBS developers re: "ways
to make it easier" could be done.

I think it should be doable - the QWK addressing should allow for source, destionation and SEENBY fields in the QWK TIC (TWK? :) ) file. I for one would gladly carry file echos on QWK if there was a technical way to do it, and bonus points if file echos could also be gated between QWK and FTN, like message areas.

Have to flesh out the details.

Yep, out our heads together.


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DM has built a good way to do this and other BBSs that support QWK
could do this too, if they wanted to.

DM is the abbreviation for what?

Depeche Mode.
Dungeon Master.
Direct Message.

Pick one. :D


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