Hey

If you get a chance today or tonight, can you retest my server? The test
you did that was really slow (I think it was from your server)

I've been debugging and found some pretty big bugs in the IP
fragmentation reassembaly stuff, I don't know if fixing these bugs will
fix the slowness some people got, but I'm curious..

I'll leave the server running (it may crash before you get a chance, and
I'm going to be fairly busy the next couple of days, so if it doesn't
respond, don't worry.)

http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

Andrew


--- Talisman v0.43-dev (Windows/x64)
* Origin: Smuggler's Cove - Private BBS (21:1/182.1)

Re: Testing
By: apam to deon on Wed Jul 20 2022 03:08 pm

If you get a chance today or tonight, can you retest my server? The test
you did that was really slow (I think it was from your server)

I'll leave the server running (it may crash before you get a chance, and
I'm going to be fairly busy the next couple of days, so if it doesn't respond, don't worry.)

http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

So yeah, I'm very sure my delay problems are at my end, and I think I've figured out why (or rather a possible reason).

I use DNS64 at home, so my DNS returns IPv4 addresses as an IPv6, which then routes out to my NAT64 gateway, where it speaks one side to my server with IPv6, and to the other side (the outbound leg) is done over IPv4.

The latency is quite bad to your server though. IE: If I do my time curl -I ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

I dont think there is anything you need to fix at your end - but its good to hear you found somethings to fix anyway :)



...δεσ∩
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On Wed July 20 20:37:00 2022, deon wrote to apam <=-

So yeah, I'm very sure my delay problems are at my end, and I think I've figured out why (or rather a possible reason).

I use DNS64 at home, so my DNS returns IPv4 addresses as an IPv6, which then routes out to my NAT64 gateway, where it speaks one side to my server with IPv6, and to the other side (the outbound leg) is done over IPv4.

Ah ok.

The latency is quite bad to your server though. IE: If I do my time curl -I ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

Hmm, yeah, I imagine theres probably a combination of things going on.

I dont think there is anything you need to fix at your end - but its good to hear you found somethings to fix anyway :)

Ohh, there is plenty to fix ;P

Thankyou very much for doing a test. I was worried it was going to be crashed when you tried, but I just restarted it then a couple of minutes later saw your HEAD requests come through.

Found a few bugs today, the IPv4 bug I was mistakenly copying memory of a packet using the size without byteswapping it first. That was a tough one because it only happened when packets were fragmented - which it seems happens randomly at different times, I was convinced the bug was in my filesystem code... but nope.

Ah well, thanks again!

Andrew

=== TitanMail/linux v1.1.6
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: The Positronic Brain - positronicbrain.net:11892 (21:1/182)

http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

The latency is quite bad to your server though.

Hmmm... traceroute?

I see about 46ms from here, taking a mildly scenic route via Adelaide thanks to TPG's very selective peering. Once my dance with COVID is done I might look at applying some filters there to make that more direct.

... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds
(which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

Yar, OK, 6 seconds to NAB and 20 seconds to positronicbrain.net sounds like something happening at a higher layer.


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: TassieBob's BBS (21:3/169)

Re: Testing
By: TassieBob to deon on Wed Jul 20 2022 10:11 pm

... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

Yar, OK, 6 seconds to NAB and 20 seconds to positronicbrain.net sounds like something happening at a higher layer.

Yeah, I wonder if my nat64 is fragmenting packets somehow, that some where upstream they are arriving in different orders? Unless its the distance, with some link between Melbourne and apam having a dodgy or overloaded router?

That said, when I talk to apam over IPv4 directly, its sub 1 second so maybe its not link related, but MTU related on my end because of NAT64. Must admist I havent looked at it in detail, and I'm not noticing too much issue anyway (while talking with other websites).


...δεσ∩
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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Yeah, I wonder if my nat64 is fragmenting packets somehow, that some where upstream they are arriving in different orders? Unless its the distance, with some link between Melbourne and apam having a dodgy or overloaded router?

If it's fragmenting packets, it's probably almost certainly my OS - I found another bug in the IP fragmentation handling just now. I use OPNsense for a router, so I doubt that's it, though I guess it could be one somewhere between.. however, my spidey sense tells me that it's mostly likely caused by the novice hobby OS developer rather than talented network engineers using tried and true OSes :P

That said, when I talk to apam over IPv4 directly, its sub 1 second so maybe its not link related, but MTU related on my end because of NAT64. Must admist I havent looked at it in detail, and I'm not noticing too much issue anyway (while talking with other websites).

If you want to do a test with my nginx server, it's on HTTPS, on the same domain - it's running a wordpress site for my BBS, so I guess not an ideal comparison, but close enough :P

Andrew

=== TitanMail/linux v1.1.6
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: The Positronic Brain - positronicbrain.net:11892 (21:1/182)

by the novice hobby OS developer rather than talented network
engineers using tried and true OSes :P

I reckon it's awesome what you're doing - if only there were 48 hours in a day :-(


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: TassieBob's BBS (21:3/169)

Re: Testing
By: Apam to deon on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:07 pm

If you want to do a test with my nginx server, it's on HTTPS, on the same domain - it's running a wordpress site for my BBS, so I guess not an
ideal comparison, but close enough :P

So, much better :)

[deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I https://positronicbrain.net
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.18.0
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 10:38:58 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Connection: keep-alive
Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/wp-json/>; rel="https://api.w.org/"
Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/wp-json/wp/v2/pages/69>; rel="alternate"; type="application/json"
Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/>; rel=shortlink


real 0m8.313s
user 0m0.012s
sys 0m0.003s

[deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Mite/0.4-QUINN
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 967


real 0m18.492s
user 0m0.006s
sys 0m0.006s



...δεσ∩
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Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/32)
* Origin: SADville BBS (21:1/999)

Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

Welcome! Now hopefully you get your own address before the next person comes along to take messages from 21:1/999.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

Re: Testing
By: Thraka to All on Wed Aug 31 2022 12:13 pm

Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

I got it here.

Nightfox

Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

Got it here.

... They say there's always one weirdo on the bus, but I couldn't find them!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Kumpute Nation BBS (21:2/125)

Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to apply for my own node now. Cheers!

... Help! I can't find the "ANY" key.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/32)
* Origin: SADville BBS (21:1/999)

On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

Gotcha!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to
apply for my own node now. Cheers!

Which networks?

|23|04Dr|16|12Claw
|16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
|10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
|20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)

On 01 Sep 2022, claw said the following...

On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to apply for my own node now. Cheers!

Which networks?

FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only thing I've investigated so far.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/32)
* Origin: SADville BBS (21:1/999)

Which networks?

FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only
thing I've investigated so far.

It's the best one by far if you're looking for one with active users. Next would be Dove-Net then FidoNet.

... Next time you wave at me, use more than one finger!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Kumpute Nation BBS (21:2/125)

Hello Thraka!

On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/32)
* Origin: SADville BBS (21:1/999)

Got you here! Welcome! =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only
thing I've investigated so far.

If you need anything, just ask, I just went thru setting up FSXNET with Mystic BBS, but it looks like you got it!!

|10I|02rish_|10M|02onk

... Error, no Keyboard - Press F1 to Continue.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/64)
* Origin: WarpeD SocieTy (21:4/184)

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Beepsy

... Operator, give me the number for 911

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Oceanside BBS (21:1/999)

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Welcome! Seems to be posting just fine. Nice to have you!


Insomnia City BBS SysOp
Kalamazoo, MI USA
bbs.farcasternet.org Telnet 23, SSH 2222

... One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Insomnia City BBS - Kalamazoo, MI (21:1/156)

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Got your message here Beepsy! Avon's videos are awesome. I've probably watched them all getting my own board set up.

---
Ganiman
bbs.madetoraid.com:[2323/2222]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Made to Raid BBS (21:3/174)

Hello Beepsy!

On 12 Nov 2022, Beepsy said the following...

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Beepsy

... Operator, give me the number for 911

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Oceanside BBS (21:1/999)

Got you here! Welcome! =)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

On 2022-11-12 11:05 Beepsy said...

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Hello Beepsy,
It seems to be working fine.

--
Best regards
//beardy
[IRC] beardy [WEB] beardy.se [GPH] gopher://bbs.beardy.se:8070/1
[FSX] 21:3/158 [TQW] 1337:1/115
[BBS] bbs.beardy.se (ssh/wss/telnet)
--- ENiGMA 1/2 v0.0.13-beta (linux; x64; 14.19.1)
* Origin: BodaX BBS ~ bbs.beardy.se:23 / SSH port 22 (21:3/158)

On 12 Nov 2022 at 07:05p, Beepsy pondered and said...

This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

Beepsy

Hello and welcome, reading you 5 x 5 here in Dunedin, New Zealand.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hi to all there :-)

Best regards from Italy



--Simon

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Sinclair Retro BBS (21:1/173)

Best regards from Italy

Hello from the sunny (but cold) west coast of Canada.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

MSGID: 21:1/167 2F6B9B25
PID: CyberBBS v1.0.10
On 04 Mar 23 15:58:01, outsoft wrote:

Hi to all there :-)

Best regards from Italy

--Simon

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Sinclair Retro BBS (21:1/173)

Welcome! From Texas.
-Nugax (cbbs)


--- CyberBBS v1.0.10 2023/03/03 [Debian Linux/x64]
* Origin: CyberBBS WHQ BBS | http://www.cyberbbs.co (21:1/167)

Hi to all there :-)

Best regards from Italy

Got you here in Huntsville, AL, USA.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Legends of Yesteryear (furmenservices.net:23322) (21:4/102)

Hello outsoft!

On 04 Mar 2023, outsoft said the following...

Hi to all there :-)

Best regards from Italy

--Simon

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Sinclair Retro BBS (21:1/173)

Got you here! Welcome!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/02/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Re: Testing
By: outsoft to All on Sat Mar 04 2023 03:58 pm

Hi to all there :-)

Best regards from Italy

Hello from northwest Oregon, USA :)

Nightfox

Hello everyone, and happy easter (if that is your thing)

Just testing if everything works, and is set up correctly

... Top secret! Burn before reading!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Excelsior BBS (21:4/186)

I'm also still in a testing mode, seeing the areas fill up with messages.
It's a fun phase. I'm getting your messages here in Philly.
-massive

---
* Origin: MASSIVE BBS | bbs.diller.org (21:3/178)

Hello dizzie!

On 07 Apr 2023, dizzie said the following...

Hello everyone, and happy easter (if that is your thing)

Just testing if everything works, and is set up correctly

... Top secret! Burn before reading!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Excelsior BBS (21:4/186)

Thank you, and a Happy Easter to you, too!

Seems to be working just fine!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/03/14 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

Hello everyone, and happy easter (if that is your thing)

Happy Easter to everyone that celebrates this weekend! Mine's next weekend :D

Just testing if everything works, and is set up correctly

Looks like it is for you. I'm testing the same thing, BBS that just got networked message bases functionality and joined FSX!

My board doesn't have FSX so that I have something fresh to read on the other boards :).

---
* Origin: Kludge BBS | klud.ge (21:3/177)

phigan - yeah we are back. jcs released a bunch of fixed and now the subtext bbs are diving deep into the fsx message areas. Just have to play nive
with having 4MB of ram in these macs.
-massive

---
* Origin: MASSIVE BBS | bbs.diller.org (21:3/178)

Don't ask...

Don't tell...


Need to know basis...

Nunya...
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
* Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (21:2/101)

Testing fsxnet....
-Nugax


--- CyberBBS v1.0.12 2024/03/19 [Debian Linux/x64]
* Origin: CyberBBS BBS System | http://www.cyberbbs.net (21:1/167)

On Tuesday March 19 2024, nugax said the following...

@MSGID: 1.fsxnet.fsx_general@21:1/167 0FA415C2
@PID: CyberBBS v1.0.12
@TID: ctoss/1.0.12
@TZUTC: -0500
Testing fsxnet....
-Nugax

--- CyberBBS v1.0.12 2024/03/19 [Debian Linux/x64]
* Origin: CyberBBS BBS System | http://www.cyberbbs.net (21:1/167)
@PATH: 1/167 100 3/100 110

Got you here.


Jay

... I have an inferiority complex but it's not a very good one
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
* Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)

Hello nugax!

On 19 Mar 2024, nugax said the following...

Testing fsxnet....
-Nugax

--- CyberBBS v1.0.12 2024/03/19 [Debian Linux/x64]
* Origin: CyberBBS BBS System | http://www.cyberbbs.net (21:1/167)

Got you here!

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)