• I'm BAAAAACK! (I think ;) )

    From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to All on Tue Jul 26 20:05:00 2022
    Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

    I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Vk3jed on Tue Jul 26 19:52:11 2022
    Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
    the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

    Welcome back! I've also seen my BBS interest resurge, and I also was burned out due to some errors on my older board. Redoing everything from scratch has been a fun challenge, though.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.2 to All on Tue Jul 26 13:16:52 2022
    ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
    day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose interest when things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or life-related. Ugh.

    First up: a new board I'm hand-crafting around all thing 'retro' using retro systems. Well, older things anyway. A DOS-based BBS (Renegade!). It's been
    fun getting all the parts to work w/DOS -- telnet server, mailer, tosser, events, etc.

    Also, I have a small, niche FTN I've been protoyping since last year. And of course gOLD mINE still needs love.

    Anyway, welcome back ya'll and see you around the bbsverse!

    aLPHA

    ... If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.

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    ' using retro
    systems. Well, older things anyway. A DOS-based BBS (Renegade!). It's been
    fun getting all the parts to work w/DOS -- telnet server, mailer, tosser, events, etc.

    Also, I have a small, niche FTN I've been protoyping since last year. And of course gOLD mINE still needs love.

    Anyway, welcome back ya'll and see you around the bbsverse!

    aLPHA

    ... If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.

    --- GEcho 1.20/Pro
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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Alpha on Tue Jul 26 18:05:50 2022
    *** Quoting Alpha from a message to All ***

    This message came in weird on my side. The message repeats after the 'retro' part and has double tear & origin lines:

    https://ibb.co/cCMLCYG


    Jay

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Vk3jed on Tue Jul 26 18:01:07 2022
    Vk3jed wrote to All <=-

    Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
    the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several
    weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

    I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
    the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

    Welcome back!


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 27 09:40:00 2022
    Welcome back, good to see you pop up again..

    Spec


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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Alpha on Wed Jul 27 21:56:28 2022
    Also, I have a small, niche FTN I've been protoyping since last year.
    And of course gOLD mINE still needs love.

    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers only, not intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, but I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to esc on Wed Jul 27 20:05:00 2022
    On 07-26-22 19:52, esc wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Welcome back! I've also seen my BBS interest resurge, and I also was burned out due to some errors on my older board. Redoing everything
    from scratch has been a fun challenge, though.

    Yeah, I considered that option myself, but didn't have to go that far in the end. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Blue White on Wed Jul 27 20:06:00 2022
    On 07-26-22 18:01, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
    the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

    Welcome back!

    Thanks. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Wed Jul 27 20:06:00 2022
    On 07-27-22 09:40, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Welcome back, good to see you pop up again..

    Thanks, hopefully I'll stick around a bit now. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Alpha on Wed Jul 27 20:28:00 2022
    On 07-26-22 13:16, Alpha wrote to All <=-

    ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
    day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose interest when things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or
    life-related. Ugh.

    Stuff happens. :) With ham radio and athletics occupying my top positions, BBSing will remain at beat in thord place, but I don't plan on getting out of it altogether. :)

    Anyway, welcome back ya'll and see you around the bbsverse!

    Thanks. :)



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  • From claw@21:1/210 to boraxman on Wed Jul 27 08:31:52 2022
    On 27 Jul 2022, boraxman said the following...
    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers
    only, not intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, but I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs


    If you find any decent info I wouldn't want to set one up but would love to know how. I like the technology and would like to learn more about it.

    Share what you find please.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to boraxman on Wed Jul 27 10:01:12 2022
    *** Quoting boraxman from a message to Alpha ***

    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers
    only, not intended to be another public dead one.

    I just went through this exercise creating "fakenet" to learn more about hpt.

    I setup an hpt "hub" using a zone I'm not using anywhere else and then two mystic installs as nodes more to learn about setting up hpt without hammering a load of pings and test messages to any real networks.

    I just want to know I can do it, but I'mnot sure how to get started,
    how to set up the hubs

    You can do the same with two or more Mystic installs if you felt so inclined.

    Just choose a zone you're not using anywhere else, say 905 for example and then set that up, as 905:1/100 for example. Then setup one or two other Mystic installs as 905:1/101 & /102, set them up as nodes on the /100 hub and you're in business.

    From there you can create an echomail area on the hub and either manually connect the nodes or send an areafix netmail from the nodes to the hub to connect them. From there send some test messages to the echo and if you set everything up correctly the node should send it to the hub and the hub will forward it to the other node. You can also experiment with netmail routing and sending pings from node to node.

    Mystic is awesome in that it does a lot of the heavy lifting for you, making it easier to learn some of the fundamentals of ftns.


    Jay

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.2 to Boraxman on Wed Jul 27 07:22:23 2022
    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers only, intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, b I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs

    That's how I started a while back, just getting to know the mechanics/anatomy of FTNs. Reading old forums, Fidonet specs, etc.

    An easy way to learn some of the hub basics is to setup a personal mail
    hub. E.g.: have all your network echomail come to a private instance (Mystic and Synchronet actually work well for this), then set up your BBS(s) as downlink point addersses. If you have multiple BBSs (like me) it makes adding the echomail networks much easier.

    Mesing around with nodelist creators like makenl is helpful too.

    I've been meaning to document this process for a while, maybe this will motivate me.

    Yeah, deadnets are no bueno. It takes real elbow grease and years
    of dedication and promotion to grow one for real. Props to those (Avon!) who have done so!

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to boraxman on Wed Jul 27 17:28:09 2022
    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers
    only, not intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, but I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs

    Yeah, this idea appeals to me as well. Or maybe figure out how to set up multiple BBSes using the same FTN address with different point nodes. I love figuring this stuff out. Maybe Avon can make another howto vid :)

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Warpslide on Wed Jul 27 17:29:54 2022
    Mystic is awesome in that it does a lot of the heavy lifting for you, making it easier to learn some of the fundamentals of ftns.

    I agree that Mystic is an amazing piece of software. It blows my mind how simple a lot of the otherwise exhaustive tasks are. g00r00 is an amazing programmer.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Alpha on Wed Jul 27 17:31:38 2022
    An easy way to learn some of the hub basics is to setup a personal mail hub. E.g.: have all your network echomail come to a private instance (Mystic and Synchronet actually work well for this), then set up your BBS(s) as downlink point addersses. If you have multiple BBSs (like me) it makes adding the echomail networks much easier.

    Interesting. Perhaps I should give this a shot. So in other words, the BBS that's actually listening and calling out for mail, occupying port 24554 or whatever it is, is a "shadow" instance that actually communicates with the real BBSes behind the scenes. Is that a correct understanding?

    Mesing around with nodelist creators like makenl is helpful too.

    I should look into this more, I have done very little in this regard.

    I've been meaning to document this process for a while, maybe this will motivate me.

    Would love to read it!

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to esc on Wed Jul 27 15:42:16 2022
    *** Quoting esc from a message to Warpslide ***

    I agree that Mystic is an amazing piece of software. It blows my mind
    how simple a lot of the otherwise exhaustive tasks are. g00r00 is an amazing programmer.

    Especially when you're following Avon's videos. When I was first getting
    back into the BBS scene I followed along with those and was up & going in an afternoon. I thought to myself "well that was way too easy!".

    I thought part of being a sysop was being sadomasochistic enjoying the pain and suffering of trying to get everything to work. At least that's how it
    was for me trying to get Telegard talking to FastEcho, AllFix & FrontDoor
    back in the day.

    I've found hpt to just frustrating enough to be considered sadomasochism but not so much as to drive me to alcoholism... yet. ;)


    Jay

    ... If you're not confused, you're not paying attention

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to boraxman on Thu Jul 28 05:53:00 2022
    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers only, not intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, but I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs

    I'm not sure what the go with the fancy schmancy flatlander software these
    days is, but in the days of yore so long as you could operate a node, you
    were capable of being a hub. You only had to get your head around routing
    and writing nodelists. :)

    Spec


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Warpslide on Thu Jul 28 01:15:29 2022
    Especially when you're following Avon's videos. When I was first
    getting back into the BBS scene I followed along with those and was up
    & going in an afternoon. I thought to myself "well that was way too easy!".

    Yes! This!

    I remember setting up binkd manually and hooking it up to daydream with basically no documentation. What a nightmare. Now things are super simple and the follow-along guides are incredible. I feel pretty fortunate these days.

    I thought part of being a sysop was being sadomasochistic enjoying the pain and suffering of trying to get everything to work. At least
    that's how it was for me trying to get Telegard talking to FastEcho, AllFix & FrontDoor back in the day.

    Yeah, having everything under one roof is pretty slick. I remember configuring the same things multiple times for the different products that made everything work. It was frustrating. God forbid you ever had to make a change lol.

    I've found hpt to just frustrating enough to be considered sadomasochism but not so much as to drive me to alcoholism... yet. ;)

    I remember getting hpt set up under Enthral once upon a time and it wasn't my favorite experience either hehe.

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  • From faeempress@21:2/125 to boraxman on Wed Jul 27 19:22:04 2022
    I'd like to create an FTN for fun. A private one between my servers
    only, not intended to be another public dead one. I just want to know I can do it, but I'm not sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs
    I just did this about 2 weeks ago with CiberNET between my two Mystic
    nodes. It's fairly easy to setup but I forget to set passwords for
    BinkD which cost me 2 days of trouble shooting. A long time ago I ran
    RealmsNET in Vancouver, but there's a lot of lost knowledge there.

    Avon's videos helped a lot for both the nodes and the hub. I have my hub
    set for polling, ie. it doesnt connect out to the nodes, they have to
    poll for the echo/net mail. Feel free to ask if you need any tips.. etc.



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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to claw on Thu Jul 28 21:44:06 2022
    If you find any decent info I wouldn't want to set one up but would love to know how. I like the technology and would like to learn more about
    it.

    Share what you find please.


    Thats the thing, I haven't found anything. I've found how to set yourself up to an existing network, but not how you make a new one.

    Then again, if that was common knowledge, we'd have everyone making their own 'nets and abandoning them.

    I floated the idea that any Zone numbered 4090 or greater was a 'private' zone, that is one for private use, the equivalent of the 192.168.0.0 or 10.0.0.0 IP address space.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Warpslide on Thu Jul 28 21:47:11 2022
    I just went through this exercise creating "fakenet" to learn more about hpt.

    I setup an hpt "hub" using a zone I'm not using anywhere else and then
    two mystic installs as nodes more to learn about setting up hpt without hammering a load of pings and test messages to any real networks.

    I just want to know I can do it, but I'mnot sure how to get started, how to set up the hubs

    You can do the same with two or more Mystic installs if you felt so inclined.

    Just choose a zone you're not using anywhere else, say 905 for example
    and then set that up, as 905:1/100 for example. Then setup one or two other Mystic installs as 905:1/101 & /102, set them up as nodes on the /100 hub and you're in business.

    From there you can create an echomail area on the hub and either
    manually connect the nodes or send an areafix netmail from the nodes to the hub to connect them. From there send some test messages to the
    echo and if you set everything up correctly the node should send it to the hub and the hub will forward it to the other node. You can also experiment with netmail routing and sending pings from node to node.

    Mystic is awesome in that it does a lot of the heavy lifting for you, making it easier to learn some of the fundamentals of ftns.


    Jay

    That seems a lot simpler than what I thought it would be. That is where I think I got a bit confused, thinking that there was more to do to set up the hub.

    I'll give it a try when I've got the time and patience.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Thu Jul 28 07:05:00 2022
    Warpslide wrote to esc <=-

    I thought part of being a sysop was being sadomasochistic enjoying the pain and suffering of trying to get everything to work. At least
    that's how it was for me trying to get Telegard talking to FastEcho, AllFix & FrontDoor back in the day.

    Oh, but when it all works -- glorious!

    Then, it's time to switch platforms. :)




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  • From esc@21:4/173 to boraxman on Thu Jul 28 16:11:28 2022
    Thats the thing, I haven't found anything. I've found how to set
    yourself up to an existing network, but not how you make a new one.

    Yeah, I assume these details are in some older fidonet specs or something and aren't as common knowledge.

    Then again, if that was common knowledge, we'd have everyone making
    their own 'nets and abandoning them.

    Ha, we already kind-of have this problem :P

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to boraxman on Thu Jul 28 10:25:22 2022
    Thats the thing, I haven't found anything. I've found how to set yourself up to an existing network, but not how you make a new one.

    Setting up a network is simple. Find a free zone and set yourself up as ZC and or node and set that up in your mailer/tosser.

    Add other nodes to connect with as they wish.

    The setup is not difficult. Maintaining a network could be. You'll also need a nodelist. If your nodelist gets complex use makenl.

    Then again, if that was common knowledge, we'd have everyone making their own 'nets and abandoning them.

    I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from the exercise.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Al on Thu Jul 28 11:33:11 2022
    BY: Al(21:4/106)


    I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from
    the exercise.
    QWK based networks seem more doable.


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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Utopian Galt on Thu Jul 28 13:27:20 2022
    I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from
    the exercise.

    QWK based networks seem more doable.

    More doable?

    QWK networks are easier for the network admin. Nodes poll when they choose and come and go as they please. There is nothing for the network admin to do once setup but to make sure his node/hub is connectable.

    FTN is more widely supported but can be a lot of work for the hubs to keep the nodelist up to date and weed out nodes that just vanish and also adding new node who want in.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 29 07:38:00 2022
    Oh, but when it all works -- glorious!

    Then, it's time to switch platforms. :)

    Hehe, I used to think something like that... messed around with a variety of QuickBBS clones... in the end I became satisfied with what I stuck with.. the bleeding edge became more of a hassle the more complicated the setup got.

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 29 14:54:14 2022
    On 26 Jul 2022 at 08:05p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
    the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

    I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
    the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

    welcome back Tony, I know this feeling also.

    Been busy support parents with illnesses so a bit time poor but dipping in/out of BBS when time permits and keeping my time on BBS fun for me.

    Glad you got some docker time. I confess I was quite taken with it when I played with it. I feel like I need to start over with a new HDD for all my linux stuff as bits were not working as I wanted and permissions kept foxing me... but for now I am leaving it all well alone :) less stress :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Alpha on Fri Jul 29 14:56:25 2022
    On 26 Jul 2022 at 01:16p, Alpha pondered and said...

    ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
    day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose interest when things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or
    life-related. Ugh.

    I hear you on both counts :)

    First up: a new board I'm hand-crafting around all thing 'retro' using retro systems. Well, older things anyway. A DOS-based BBS (Renegade!). It's been fun getting all the parts to work w/DOS -- telnet server, mailer, tosser, events, etc.

    Nice :) I started with Renegade and also have pondered trying to get something running but I should spent more time on Agency first... time?? what's that :)

    Also, I have a small, niche FTN I've been protoyping since last year.
    And of course gOLD mINE still needs love.

    Anyway, welcome back ya'll and see you around the bbsverse!

    You too, nice to see you active Robbie... best regards to you and yours.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Utopian Galt on Fri Jul 29 22:08:57 2022
    I don't think there is much point in creating a net today, aside from the exercise.
    QWK based networks seem more doable.


    Mostly for the exercise, but also a "proof of concept" of a private network of BBS's.

    I looked at QWK, it is easy, but I didn't see support for an SSL connection.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sat Jul 30 17:29:00 2022
    On 07-29-22 14:54, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 26 Jul 2022 at 08:05p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    Back from another burnout phase that was induced by Mystic problems on
    the FTN hub. which have since been fixed. Toom me another several weeks to get myself ready to partake in the BBSs again. :)

    I've also been sidetracked by some major ham radio projects, but along
    the way I have gained a lot of Docker knowledge. :)

    welcome back Tony, I know this feeling also.

    Yeah, too many things going on. :)

    Been busy support parents with illnesses so a bit time poor but dipping in/out of BBS when time permits and keeping my time on BBS fun for me.

    Got a house move coming up soon, and financial uncertainty. It's a race against time to head that one off. :/

    Glad you got some docker time. I confess I was quite taken with it when
    I played with it. I feel like I need to start over with a new HDD for
    all my linux stuff as bits were not working as I wanted and permissions kept foxing me... but for now I am leaving it all well alone :) less stress :)

    Yeah Docker certainly grows on you. It's an easier way to manage server infrastructure, and already it's proven easier for disaster recovery, after I trashed the host OS. Recovering was dead simple. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Sat Jul 30 18:00:00 2022
    On 07-28-22 13:27, Al wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    QWK networks are easier for the network admin. Nodes poll when they
    choose and come and go as they please. There is nothing for the network admin to do once setup but to make sure his node/hub is connectable.

    FTN is more widely supported but can be a lot of work for the hubs to
    keep the nodelist up to date and weed out nodes that just vanish and
    also adding new node who want in.

    That's a pretty good summary, well worth keeping around. :)


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  • From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to Alpha on Tue Jul 26 13:23:29 2022
    ay think, because I *can* feel my energy and enthusiasm rising day by
    day when it comes to BBSing. And I know what it's like to lose
    interest when
    things get overwhelming, whether it's BBS related... or life-related.

    Oh, that message came in garbled.
    Using GEcho 1.20 and Renegade.
    Any idea what happened?


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  • From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to esc on Wed Jul 27 11:47:20 2022
    Interesting. Perhaps I should give this a shot. So in other words, the
    BBS that's actually listening and calling out for mail, occupying port
    24554 or whatever it is, is a "shadow" instance that actually
    communicates with the real BBSes behind the scenes. Is that a correct understanding?

    That's correct! The hub/boss BBS uses your main node credentials to slurp
    up the network(s), and then you'd have additional Echomail Nodes for each
    of your downlinks, e.g. for my point: 21/4:158.1 for BBS 1, 21:4/158.2
    for BBS 2, etc. Then you'd just add those nodes to the "Export To..."
    fields for each echo area in the Message Base Area.

    Some other details, but that's the gist!

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to aLPHA on Mon Aug 1 15:36:27 2022
    That's correct! The hub/boss BBS uses your main node credentials to slurp up the network(s), and then you'd have additional Echomail Nodes for each of your downlinks, e.g. for my point: 21/4:158.1 for BBS 1, 21:4/158.2
    for BBS 2, etc. Then you'd just add those nodes to the "Export To..." fields for each echo area in the Message Base Area.

    Sweet! I'm going to give this w a whirl. Thanks!

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