Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes an Microsoft's internal offerings?
On 28 Jul 22 11:51:34, Utopian Galt said the following to All:
Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes Microsoft's internal offerings?
If you are smart enough not to click on malware/phishing links and you don't just blindly install whatever from the net, you don't need anything.
Atreyu
Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes and Microsoft's internal offerings?
You have the Mcaffee virus? :P I've stuck with Malwarebytes, and a few other intermittant things for years..... never had a problem...They like to infect new dell boxes upon conception. bloody intel/macaffee.
Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes and Microsoft's internal offerings?
They like to infect new dell boxes upon conception. bloody intel/macaffee.
Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes and Microsoft's internal offerings?
On 07-29-22 11:29, Greenlfc wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
Unless you're doing shady stuff Windows Defender is surprisingly good.
Should I deactivate my Mcafee on my new laptop and just use Malwarebytes an Microsoft's internal offerings?
If you are smart enough not to click on malware/phishing links and you don't just blindly install whatever from the net, you don't need
anything.
If you are smart enough not to click on malware/phishing links and you don't just blindly install whatever from the net, you don't need
anything.
I don't mean to sound b***hy, but I think this is very bad advice. There's a war between bad actors and users, and some of the bad actors are very good. Social engineering makes things worse.
It is also not necessary to run virus protection on dedicated BBS computers or situations where installing software or clicking links just never happens. If you don't want users uploading viruses to your board, don't accept uploads.
It seems a little extreme to disable uploads just to prevent viruses.. I li that a BBS provides a way to share things (including files). If you don't want to install full virus protection for your system, you can still install virus scanner and set up something to virus-scan your uploads on your BBS.
Maybe its just me but I see no real reason to have an Uploads section anymore. If someone really wants to send me something there's a file-attach function in my board or they can just email.
Maybe its just me but I see no real reason to have an Uploads section anymore. If someone really wants to send me something there's a file-attach function in my board or they can just email.
It's not just for sending files to you, but sharing with other users.
It seems a little extreme to disable uploads just to prevent viruses..I remember using THD to scan for viruses from files.
I like that a BBS provides a way to share things (including files). If
you don't want to install full virus protection for your system, you can still install a virus scanner and set up something to virus-scan your uploads on your BBS.
On 08-03-22 19:29, bex wrote to Atreyu <=-
I don't mean to sound b***hy, but I think this is very bad advice.
There's a war between bad actors and users, and some of the bad actors
are very good. Social engineering makes things worse.
Even smart, careful people can get suckered in. Antivirus and
anti-malware packages are a must for Windows boxes.
On 08-04-22 06:22, Atreyu wrote to Bex <=-
Most of them all run the same - checking signatures, often times "too late" against zero-day attacks, and todays situations often involve
either security problems with OS's or websites. Often times the
products themselves are bloated, overpriced, and only present
themselves when they detect a false positive or nagging for signature updates or to perform a scan even when nothing has been downloaded. Antivirus software itself is "scare-ware"...
Phishing attacks are so common now, that if you as a user are not educating yourself against what is a real link or not, you clearly get whats deserved. There have never been situations in my life where I
have been tricked into entering credentials or visiting some link that
was bogus.
It is also not necessary to run virus protection on dedicated BBS computers or situations where installing software or clicking links
just never happens. If you don't want users uploading viruses to your board, don't accept uploads.
On 08-04-22 08:24, Nightfox wrote to Atreyu <=-
It seems a little extreme to disable uploads just to prevent viruses..
I like that a BBS provides a way to share things (including files). If you don't want to install full virus protection for your system, you
can still install a virus scanner and set up something to virus-scan
your uploads on your BBS.
Another advantage of this ability is that it gets better of time, one can ma use of the accumulated data of decades of experience to recognise even total new scams, phishing or whatever.
It is also not necessary to run virus protection on dedicated BBS computers or situations where installing software or clicking links just never happens. If you don't want users uploading viruses to your board, don't accept uploads.
Agree totally. My BBS machine is Linux on ARM, so a Windows virus is nothin more than a harmless bit of junk that needs to be deleted. :)
On 03 Aug 22 19:29:00, Bex said the following to Atreyu:
I don't mean to sound b***hy, but I think this is very bad advice. There's a war between bad actors and users, and some of the bad actors are very good. Social engineering makes things worse.
Been doing this a long time... I cannot be tricked by a bad actor and
stand by my words, having not used virus protection for 2 decades even
with all the fun of XP.
either security problems with OS's or websites. Often times the products
whats deserved. There have never been situations in my life where I have been tricked into entering credentials or visiting some link that was bogus.
On 08-05-22 08:08, Atreyu wrote to Vk3Jed <=-
Some of them ARE getting creative, I'll give it that, but maybe it
comes with being on IT for many years that one knows what to look for
.... you would think that of all the phishing/malware scams they would
at least get the spelling and grammar right!
I made the decision a long time ago that my BBS will live the rest of
its days on Windows until either I or the hardware expires.
Some of them ARE getting creative, I'll give it that, but maybe it comes wit being on IT for many years that one knows what to look for .... you would think that of all the phishing/malware scams they would at least get the spelling and grammar right!
On 08-09-22 18:17, Arelor wrote to Atreyu <=-
I recently had to help somebody make it through his anti-phishing
training course and, while I think the material is not abyssmal, I
think it was obsolete.
The worst of them all are those who are crafted from stolen information only a reduced group of people is used to have. For example, I have
seen cases in which some medical asociation we colaborate with had a
data breach, and the data thieves used the stolen information to impersonate members of the asociation and try to get Doctors to provide them with secret information or with funds.
You don't have to be a freak of nature to identify phishing attempts,
but the new generation of attacks I see these days... I am sure it is
VERY good at stealing money and data from people who is not familiar
with the digital environment. A grandpa who has just made his first
online purchase ever won't be worried if the "parcel delivery agency"
(aka phisher who has compromised the delivery agency's IT) asks him for extra information to deliver the order.
Arelor wrote to Atreyu <=-
Carpet bombing attacks in which they send thousands of phishing emails with a generic story which would apply to most people, attempting to
get the dumbest of users to fall for them, are very easy to spot.
However, as of late I have spotted very good targeted attemtps. Most people is not ready to deal with those, and that is frightening.
Vk3jed wrote to Arelor <=-
While there will always be some carpet bombers, I can see the
increasing sophistication of phishing attacks. It's an arms race, but
I try and keep my awareness up to date. I rely more on context these
days - that parcel delivery when I've ordered nothing, anything suspiciously "generic", password reset notifications to the wrong email address (I have several for historic reasons), and so on.
On 08-11-22 08:01, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
We're all able to keep up, it's the parents that I worry about. My mom gets emails and most of the time calls me.
What I've told her is that if an email makes her feel like she needs to act immediately, call me to confirm before you click anything.
Most scams rely on you acting on an impulse or panic to cloud your judgement.
We're all able to keep up, it's the parents that I worry about. My
mom gets emails and most of the time calls me.
My parents are probably so low profile on the Internet, no spammer has their address. :)
On 08-12-22 09:09, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I'm not sure if that really matters. Years ago, I created a new email address but didn't use it or share it anywhere. Eventually that email address started receiving spam emails.
I'm not sure if that really matters. Years ago, I created a new
email address but didn't use it or share it anywhere. Eventually
that email address started receiving spam emails.
Interesting. Yet I have addresses that don't get spam. :)
I find that interesting.. I figured there were bots crawling the
internet trying to figure out what email addresses exist, and possibly
poindexter FORTRAN said to Vk3jed: <=-
We're all able to keep up, it's the parents that I worry about. My mom
gets emails and most of the time calls me.
What I've told her is that if an email makes her feel like she needs to
act immediately, call me to confirm before you click anything.
On 08-13-22 09:16, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Interesting. Yet I have addresses that don't get spam. :)
I find that interesting.. I figured there were bots crawling the
internet trying to figure out what email addresses exist, and possibly email providers (and ISPs?) selling data, allowing spammers to discover new email addresses.
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