I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network?
I'm looking for more to join.
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
*** Quoting faeempress from a message to All *** fa> I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and fa> Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? fa> I'm looking for more to join.I'd recommend Micronet:https://www.minftn.net/And tqwNet:https://erb.pw/node-request/You can also check out Fidonet, since you're in Kamloops that looks like it may be a job for Alan Ianson (21:4/106 & 1:153/0).Jay.. I've always pictured myself taking selfies--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL * Origin: Northern Realms | tg.nrbbs.net | 289-424-5180 (21:3/110.1)
For the last 2 months it's only been a guy arguing about the moon landings being fake. That, and I prefer FTN over QWK.I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
I'm curious why you removed Dove-Net? That's one of the more busy networks I've seen out there.
For the last 2 months it's only been a guy arguing about the moon landings being fake. That, and I prefer FTN over QWK.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a peruse.
I thought about applying for Fidonet, but wow that's one huge
message base. Well more than one. Maybe I'll consider it again.
Micronet looks good too.
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
You can also check out Fidonet, since you're in Kamloops that looks like it may be a job for Alan Ianson (21:4/106 & 1:153/0).
sysOps always rush to add all the FTNs - but they're mostly dead aside from fsx and Dove. tqwNet is a great small net that is still active.
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
WeedNet - marissa @ https://sysopshub.com/weednet/
Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
I've not mentioned it anywhere before now, but in theThat's a pretty narrow audience, but I'll send you an application.
last couple of days I've set up AVeNet (Audio Visual
Engineers Network)
I thought about applying for Fidonet, but wow that's one huge
I thought about applying for Fidonet, but wow that's one hugeI understand why there is so many. Im sure people like to run there own Message NETS. But in my opinion, and only being back in BBS'ing for about 2 months now, It seems if there was just like 1 or 2 NETS that everyone used or even just 1 main NET there would obviously be more activity in the one. Instead of having a bunch of "dead" or "slow" NETS. Im probably just stating the obvious, too bad there wasnt a way where everyone running a message NET could join together in a way to possibly improve everything as a whole. |10I|02rish_|10M|02onk.. A book misplaced is a book lost--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/64) * Origin: WarpeD SocieTy (21:4/184)
Re: Join Networks
By: faeempress to All on Thu Aug 25 2022 14:49:42
Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
I've not mentioned it anywhere before now, but in the
last couple of days I've set up AVeNet (Audio Visual
Engineers Network)
faeempress wrote to All <=-
Personally I like to have choice, even if the nets are half dead.
I also like how some are focused toward topics, ie. Spooknet and
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is
taking a break, so we'll see.
Back in the 90's when I ran RealmsNet it was more for fun rather
than to build something popular.
Same with my current TribalNet, sure it's only on a couple BBBes,
but it's part of the fun.
I wish the nc would transfer control to another hub until he decides to return.I also like how some are focused toward topics, ie. Spooknet and
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is
taking a break, so we'll see.
That "break" is measured in years...
It's pretty generic to be honest. I wanted to revive my old network, butSame with my current TribalNet, sure it's only on a couple BBBes,
but it's part of the fun.
Haven't heard of that one, what's it all about?
There are lots of dead BBS's too. Do we need more? Heck no. But the moreI've not mentioned it anywhere before now, but in the
last couple of days I've set up AVeNet (Audio Visual
Engineers Network)
Why? I can reel off a half a dozen specialty networks that get 0 or
close to 0 traffic. Why do we need another dead network?
faeempress wrote to Nightfox <=-
For the last 2 months it's only been a guy arguing about the moon
landings being fake. That, and I prefer FTN over QWK.
Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-
sysOps always rush to add all the FTNs - but they're mostly dead aside from fsx and Dove. tqwNet is a great small net that is still active.
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
On 08-25-22 19:14, paulie420 wrote to faeempress <=-
sysOps always rush to add all the FTNs - but they're mostly dead aside from fsx and Dove. tqwNet is a great small net that is still active. MeaTLoTioN @ Quantum Wormhole runs it...
On 08-25-22 14:49, faeempress wrote to All <=-
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
On 08-25-22 21:11, Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
There are lots of dead BBS's too. Do we need more? Heck no. But the more the merrier. Someone build AnimeNet, FishingNet, MSDOSNet. Heck, bring
There are lots of dead BBS's too. Do we need more? Heck no. But the more fa> the merrier. Someone build AnimeNet, FishingNet, MSDOSNet. Heck, bring
sysOps always rush to add all the FTNs - but they're mostly dead asid from fsx and Dove. tqwNet is a great small net that is still active.
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
WeedNet - marissa @ https://sysopshub.com/weednet/
As the OP wanted FTNs (and not QWK networks), just contact me if you want a FTN connection to WeedNet, as I'm the FTN hub there :)
I still have unexplained issues with tqwNet. Suddenly stopped working. Sessions work, packets get transferred, then things disappear into a
black hole. But everything looks setup correctly.
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
I'd recommend Micronet:
And tqwNet:
For the last 2 months it's only been a guy arguing about the moon
landings being fake. That, and I prefer FTN over QWK.
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is
There's a "new" Retronet (Neo?), but people don't even respond to test messages! I had to log on to another BBS to check if my posts were
making it.
Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
I've not mentioned it anywhere before now, but in the
last couple of days I've set up AVeNet (Audio Visual
Engineers Network)
Why? I can reel off a half a dozen specialty networks that get 0 or
close to 0 traffic. Why do we need another dead network?
--
Personally I like to have choice, even if the nets are half dead.
I also like how some are focused toward topics, ie. Spooknet and
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is
taking a break, so we'll see. Back in the 90's when I ran
RealmsNet it was more for fun rather than to build something
popular.
I'd recommend Micronet:
And tqwNet:
What do you like about those networks?
And faeempress, what didn't you like about Dove-net?
boraxman wrote to Nigel Reed <=-
Why? I can reel off a half a dozen specialty networks that get 0 or
close to 0 traffic. Why do we need another dead network?
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a
section added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion
section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
You have to go where the people are, and the people are really on
only one or two net it seems.
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a section
added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion section on
Fidonet or fsxNet.
You have to go where the people are, and the people are really on
only one or two net it seems.
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a section added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
phigan wrote to All <=-
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is
There's a "new" Retronet (Neo?), but people don't even respond to test messages! I had to log on to another BBS to check if my posts were
making it.
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
On 08-25-22 21:11, Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
I thought there was at least one gate to FTN.
WWiVNet - ... I forget
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and
Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? I'm
looking for more to join.
--
MetroNet - Exodus???
Yeah, agreed. Adding another echo to an existing network seems to make more sense. But the whole idea of "if you build it, they will come" doesn't seem to apply to FTNs. Just because you create an echo (or a net) doesn't mean people will actually use it. Avon added some new
echos to fsxNet not long ago (after being asked to create them) and I believe he was asking for feedback as to whether they should be cut due to low/no traffic.
Someone awhile ago was floating the idea of either gating some networks together into one network (or merging everything into one zone), I can't quite remember the details.
I think what these network really need is a decent way of accessing them via mobile. Whether that's a webapp (like WebJAM), Synchronet's web interface or an actual native app for both iOS & Android, that could really make them more accessible to a wider audience.
I'm not a programmer by any stretch of the imagination, but all I know
is trying to tap out a message on an iPhone via ftelnet was a test of patience to say the least.
Jay
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a section to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
You'll probably achieve a better sNr doing it on its own rather than by tieing it into someone elses network.
Gamgee wrote to boraxman <=-
boraxman wrote to Nigel Reed <=-
Why? I can reel off a half a dozen specialty networks that get 0 or
close to 0 traffic. Why do we need another dead network?
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a
section added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion
section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
Yup.
You have to go where the people are, and the people are really on
only one or two net it seems.
Agreed. I'd say the only nets with any real activity now are:
DoveNet, FidoNet, FSXNet, and MicroNet. That's it. I've been pruning networks recently for that very reason, and am about to remove another today.
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have
a section added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual
discussion section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
You have to go where the people are, and the people are
really on only one or two net it seems.
Personally, if you ask me, the difficulty accessing this by
mobile is to me a weakness of the mobile platform rather
than the BBS system (ie, mobiles just aren't suitable for
this kind of thing).
A higher signal to noise ratio may be what is achieved, but then, there won't be much signal in the first place. Piggybacking it onto a
network which already has many BBS participants and traffic seems a
better way to get people in. You'll get more noise, sure, but you'll
get more discussion in amongst that. A forum with pure signal and no noise isn't that great if there are only one or to postings a week.
*** Quoting faeempress from a message to All ***
I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network?
I'm looking for more to join.
I'd recommend Micronet:
https://www.minftn.net/
I used to have MicroNET on TLP. It was deathly quiet though... in the end I gave it away. You could pick it up from Deon over at 21:3/100 course you'll get a new address to go with it :)
Spec
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Telegram is a good entry point:
Re: Re: Join Networks By: Warpslide to faeempress on Thu Aug 25 2022 07:20 pm > *** Quoting faeempress from a message to All *** > > fa> I removed Dove-net from my BBS and have applied to Agoranet and > fa> Araknet. Are any of you guys running your own network? > > fa> I'm looking for more to join. > > I'd recommend Micronet: > https://www.minftn.net/ > I have the suspicion that if he disliked DoveNET, he will also dislike MIcronet:-)--gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (21:2/138)
On 08-26-22 21:39, paulie420 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I still have unexplained issues with tqwNet. Suddenly stopped working. Sessions work, packets get transferred, then things disappear into a
black hole. But everything looks setup correctly.
I think I remember you posting there about issues - usually mL and deon can help iron issues out quickly, I've never had any with tqw at all. Sorry yer experiencing that - but have you asked those gents?
On 08-27-22 09:13, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I thought there was at least one gate to FTN.
Correct, that'd be me. I think there may be one other one also.
On 08-27-22 10:30, Spectre wrote to faeempress <=-
I briefly hosted a net we called fishNET.. had nothing at all to do
with fishing though ;)
On 08-27-22 22:32, Spectre wrote to boraxman <=-
Seems pointless to me. Wouldn't it be better just to have a section added to an existing Net. An Audio Visual discussion section on Fidonet or fsxNet.
You'll probably achieve a better sNr doing it on its own rather than by tieing it into someone elses network.
On 08-27-22 09:13, Blue White wrote to phigan <=-
Maybe your test messages are not getting to the whole network. I carry Retronet and have not seen any traffic in it for a few weeks. Before then, there was at least traffic in the ads echo.
On 08-28-22 21:12, boraxman wrote to Warpslide <=-
Agree about the mobile part. I would be tempted to do something
myself, but mobile programming is not my specialty. I've never done
it. Really, you need a QWK reader, kind of like MultiMail for mobile,
and a way to download the packet without having to go through
telnet/SSH.
Personally, if you ask me, the difficulty accessing this by mobile is
to me a weakness of the mobile platform rather than the BBS system (ie, mobiles just aren't suitable for this kind of thing).
On 08-28-22 21:16, boraxman wrote to Spectre <=-
I don't know. From my point of view, another 'net is a pain because I have to log into all these different BBS's to access them. I as habit
log into two, so if those aren't going to connect, I'm not going to see it.
In my opinoon, the RPG Literature echo in Fido gets its
conversation flow mangled by Telegram posters. Telegram
posters have this tendency to send many small messages in a
row.
Then there is the fact some people try to post Telegram
messages with content that is not compatible with the
regular Telnet platforms.
So while I agree Telegram gateways are a fun experiment,
they are far from being a "good" entrypoint.
Maybe your test messages are not getting to the whole network. I carry Retronet and have not seen any traffic in it for a few weeks. Before then, there was at least traffic in the ads echo.
Same here, hearing crickets these days, not even ads or test
messages. :(
In lieu of a customated mobile app for Fidonet, Stas
Mishchenkov of "Fido by Telegram BBS, Simferopol Cr 2:460/256"
has utilized the Telegram API to provide access to Fidonet
echos to mobile device users.
It operates within some contraints of Telegram and uses the
concept of "chat" replies, but the whole experience is still
quite good.
Getting started is just THREE steps:
[1] install Telegram,
[2] add the @Fido2telebot service,
[3] send %list and %help to @Fido2telebot.
Here are some direct links to some Fidonet echos:
ASIAN_LINK = https://t.me/+TlC5K7EkqxOR8E4u
AUDIO = https://t.me/+TpEnF8lKjbn1rV-N
CHAT = https://t.me/+Suaubh6lB15XdkGt
COFFEE_KLATSCH = https://t.me/+R-fzkUrjKxsKKTw7
FIDOTEST = https://t.me/+RPUcUaNBYCi2yqCM
MOVIES = https://t.me/+Vr2aQGPP8x2Ntw7r
MUSIC = https://t.me/+UtypMiJ0S0vQnu9t
TAGLINES = https://t.me/+UT_ZPmti4QZoGGAc
Those are pretty good to get one's feet wet and get talking.
If you piggyback onto another network, you have to put up with their rules. In FIDO, it is almost impossible to get users removed from an
echo that you moderate. They could try Micronet or this one, but then there might be a rule or two that is missing or that they want to be
more lax about, but since it is not their network they may not have much say in that, depending on what their agreement is with the NC.
Agree about the mobile part. I would be tempted to do something myself, but mobile programming is not my specialty. I've never done it. Really, you need a QWK reader, kind of like MultiMail for mobile and a way to download the packet without having to go through telnet/SSH.
For Synchronet and Mystic BBSs (others?), you could use FTP to transfer messages. Other BBSs would require some sort of "expect" type scripting engine to communicate with the BBS to initiate Zmodem downloads and uploads over a telnet/SSH session.
Personally, if you ask me, the difficulty accessing this by mobile is to me a weakness of the mobile platform rather than the BBS system (i mobiles just aren't suitable for this kind of thing).
It's more a lack of suitable mobile clients. There are a couple of Android "point" systems, but I feel using FTN based points is the wrong technology base for a mobile user. QWK/Bluewave is a more appropriate technology (among the existing ones) to me.
Of course, you could use a web based interface, but I would like
something that's not running interactively over the network - I do
venture into areas without reliable mobile coverage, where grabbing a
QWK packet while passing a cell tower is practical, staying on and
reading mail continuously over the network is not.
I don't know. From my point of view, another 'net is a pain because have to log into all these different BBS's to access them. I as habi log into two, so if those aren't going to connect, I'm not going to s it.
I just join the nets I want and use my Synchronet BBS to act as an aggregator for messaging. While the board is primarily for my purposes,
I am more than open to users requesting nets, I'm open to carrying more nets, both FTN and WK.
boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Overall I don't think it is worthwhile. Mobiles are just the
wrong format for this time of connectivity. The whole point of a
BBS, and of these message networks is correspondence and being at
a destination, not simple chat. The mobile phone tends to make
its users prefer shorter "chat style" communication which I think
isn't really the point here. While it would be good to have a
nice SSH client that one can use easily, having access to say,
fsxNet over mobile is probably in reality not as great an idea as
it may first seem to be.
The whole "spirit" is lost when its converted to an instant
messaging type of thing, and the advantages and uniqueness
disappear. The more I think about it, the more I think the lack
of options for mobile isn't really a problem. Is it really a
good idea to turn this "old style" method of communication into a
copy of what already exists? Maybe its better that its not
relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe people here who
already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for themselves?
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
** On Sunday 28.08.22 - 16:44, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
In my opinoon, the RPG Literature echo in Fido gets its
conversation flow mangled by Telegram posters. Telegram
posters have this tendency to send many small messages in a
row.
Sharon is a newbie, but she doesn't quite understand the
concept of using R)eply, for one thing. And FTNside has plenty
its own single line or and even single word responses. ;)
Wrt not compatible, I see plenty of examples in FTN using ansi
or esc-type sequences which doesn't bode well with other users.
So while I agree Telegram gateways are a fun experiment,
they are far from being a "good" entrypoint.
It *is* good. The alternatives are not working nearly as well;
hard to set up, do not sync devices, etc.
I'd recommend Micronet:
https://www.minftn.net/
I have the suspicion that if he disliked DoveNET, he will also dislike MIcronet :-)
In my opinoon, the RPG Literature echo in Fido gets its conversation
flow mangled by Telegram posters. Telegram posters have this tendency
to send many small messages in a row.
Vk3jed wrote to paulie420 <=-
Has been ages, but I did, I think we ended up with mutual head
scratching. The symptoms are rather mysterious - everything appears to
be working, but no mail ends up in my messagebase (and I can't see any mismatch between areatags and my AREAS.BBS file), or my messagebase config.
Has been ages, but I did, I think we ended up with mutual head
scratching. The symptoms are rather mysterious - everything appears to
be working, but no mail ends up in my messagebase (and I can't see any mismatch between areatags and my AREAS.BBS file), or my messagebase config.
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
Unless you find a sysop, like me, who feeds it via FTN. :)
Dove-Net isn't a FTN, it uses QWK.
I thought there was at least one gate to FTN.
You have to go where the people are, and the people are really on only one or two net it seems.
If one wants to start a 'net, why not just run the BBS for that purpose? It's not like we can't call BBS's outside of our own region anymore.
Set up a BBS for that topic, and just have the message forums local. You'll have complete control.
If FTN vs. QWK is the main reason you got rid of DoveNet, I feed it via FTN if you ever want to add it back.
I just try to find that one BBS in Australia which has the nets I want, and use that. There is one, but it doesn't carry all the fsxNet message areas, hence why I come to Agency BBS as well. Can't be bothered
setting up my own board, nor can I be bothered doing a round-robin call
of several boards daily to cover all the 'nets.
Irish_Monk wrote to Blue White <=-
Where can I get the Application for DoveNET?
How long has FSXNet been around? I seem to remember adding FSXnet
just a few years ago, and when I added it, I thought FSXnet was
fairly new. It seems FSXNet was able to become fairly popular for a
newer message network.
Where can I get the Application for DoveNET?
-!- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/64)
How long has FSXNet been around? I seem to remember adding FSXnet just
a few years ago, and when I added it, I thought FSXnet was fairly new.
It seems FSXNet was able to become fairly popular for a newer message network.
fidonet in particular outright says you figure it out yourself and it better work first time. not very friendly if you ask me..
fidonet in particular outright says you figure it out yourself and it better work first time. not very friendly if you ask me..
-!- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616)
Maybe your test messages are not getting to the whole network. I carry Retronet and have not seen any traffic in it for a few weeks. Before then,
I can give you a hand getting configured if you'd like, while you reach out to Nicholas for an application.
I can give you a hand getting configured if you'd like, while you reach out to Nicholas for an application.
From HISTORY.TXT:
2015-11-08
It looks like fsxNet will be seven years old this November.
How long has FSXNet been around? I seem to remember adding FSXnet
just a few years ago, and when I added it, I thought FSXnet was
fairly new. It seems FSXNet was able to become fairly popular for a
newer message network.
the youtube tutorials + the test config allowing near immediate usage of the net certainly helps. fsx and dovenet are the only two with a near zero
unfortunately i'm also one of those people that might leave out a few subs. either because they are dead, dead+sub advert spam (fidogazette, ham radio, etc that just post news are examples) but i'm not against adding stuff people want..
Where can I get the Application for DoveNET?
You don't even need one.
Look here: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net
Down near the bottom of that page is a link for instructions on joining; it's pretty easy.
You don't even need one.
Look here: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net
I was going to say the same thing, but I think he's looking to set up Dove-Net via FTN rather than QWK.
When I add a message network to my BBS, I generally like to carry all the message areas in that network. I figure people can disable the ones
they don't like to read in their message scans, and those areas that are dead would be skipped anyway.
On 08-29-22 09:00, Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I dropped Retronet back in June via Netmail & Email, never heard
anything from Carlos. He still tries polling my system hourly even
though I don't have it setup anymore...
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 76516 packets, 26M bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source Destination
104 5408 REJECT all -- * * 75.67.168.60 0.0.0.0/0
Same with Whispernet:
On 08-30-22 01:36, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Overall I don't think it is worthwhile. Mobiles are just the wrong
format for this time of connectivity. The whole point of a BBS, and of these message networks is correspondence and being at a destination,
not simple chat. The mobile phone tends to make its users prefer
shorter "chat style" communication which I think isn't really the point here. While it would be good to have a nice SSH client that one can
use easily, having access to say, fsxNet over mobile is probably in reality not as great an idea as it may first seem to be.
better that its not relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe people
here who already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for themselves?
On 08-30-22 01:39, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I just try to find that one BBS in Australia which has the nets I want, and use that. There is one, but it doesn't carry all the fsxNet
message areas, hence why I come to Agency BBS as well. Can't be
bothered setting up my own board, nor can I be bothered doing a round-robin call of several boards daily to cover all the 'nets.
On 08-29-22 10:15, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Do you have the BADAREA set up in your sbbsecho AREAS.BBS file? If the messages are not going there, that would likely rule out a tag issue. Having BADAREA set up very recently helped me track down an issue (I
had the SBBS internal tag and the FTN tag reversed!).
If you have one set up, and they are not going there, other culprits
that spring to mind are a mismatch between the AREAS.BBS file and your SCFG area tags (which it sounds like you've already checked), or an
issue with the compression used on the packets. It sounds like it
looks like they are decompressing properly, though.
On 08-29-22 09:05, paulie420 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This is a stupid basic question, but have you checked /mystic/echomail/out/tqwnet for .bsy's? Normally I just check /mystic/semaphore but sometimes there can also be network specific .bsy files in that out folder.
I'm sure its not that, but just a thought. :P
On 08-29-22 10:29, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I think there is, but as far as I know, the Dove-Net host BBS
(Vertrauen) only provides it via QWK.
Yeah it's not looking great for RetroNet. I am still officially linked, but as I said, crickets. Pity, it was a good net. :(
You have to go where the people are, and the people are really on onl or two net it seems.
How long has FSXNet been around? I seem to remember adding FSXnet just
a few years ago, and when I added it, I thought FSXnet was fairly new.
It seems FSXNet was able to become fairly popular for a newer message network.
If one wants to start a 'net, why not just run the BBS for that purpo It's not like we can't call BBS's outside of our own region anymore. Set up a BBS for that topic, and just have the message forums local. You'll have complete control.
Good Point! A big reason for NETS back in the day was most likely so you could still talk to people that were not in your area, but not pay long distance phone calls and just call the local BBS part of that NET.
Irish_Monk
Overall I don't think it is worthwhile. Mobiles are just the wrong format for this time of connectivity. The whole point of a BBS, and these message networks is correspondence and being at a destination, not simple chat. The mobile phone tends to make its users prefer shorter "chat style" communication which I think isn't really the poi here. While it would be good to have a nice SSH client that one can use easily, having access to say, fsxNet over mobile is probably in reality not as great an idea as it may first seem to be.
I still do a bit of "long form" messaging on phones, mostly on a couple
of websites. It would be nice to have a more portable option for BBS messaging than a laptop.
better that its not relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe people here who already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for themselves?
Me for one. A mobile offline reader would fit the bill. I did get Bluewave working under DOSBox on an Android phone, but that was a pain
to use on such a small screen.
When I add a message network to my BBS, I generally like to carry
all the message areas in that network. I figure people can disable
Yes, I have done the same so far. You never know when that message will come thru and if its just a dead message area it doesnt slow anyone down
Same with Whispernet:
I still do a bit of "long form" messaging on phones, mostly on a couple of websites. It would be nice to have a more portable option for BBS messaging than a laptop.
better that its not relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe
people here who already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for
themselves?
Me for one. A mobile offline reader would fit the bill. I did get Bluewave working under DOSBox on an Android phone, but that was a pain to use on such a small screen.
faeempress said to All: <=-
Personally I like to have choice, even if the nets are half dead.
I also like how some are focused toward topics, ie. Spooknet and
Retronet. I really wanted to join Retronet but the owner/nc is taking a
break, so we'll see. Back in the 90's when I ran
Exodus said to Faeempress: <=-
MetroNet ... since 1994. http://www.rgbbs.info
fidonet in particular outright says you figure it out yourself and it better work first time. not very friendly if you ask me..
Gamgee wrote to Irish_Monk <=-
Irish_Monk wrote to Blue White <=-
Where can I get the Application for DoveNET?
You don't even need one.
Look here: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net
Down near the bottom of that page is a link for instructions on
joining; it's pretty easy.
Al wrote to fusion <=-
fidonet in particular outright says you figure it out yourself and it better work first time. not very friendly if you ask me..
That is not true. Not everyone in fidonet is so friendly but that is
the exception not the rule.
I am willing to help anyone who needs help get on their feet regardless
of what net it is. Netmail/echomail works easily for that purpose.
boraxman wrote to Blue White <=-
If one wants to start a 'net, why not just run the BBS for that
purpose? It's not like we can't call BBS's outside of our own region anymore. Set up a BBS for that topic, and just have the message
forums local. You'll have complete control.
fidonet in particular outright says you figure it out yourself and it better >> work first time. not very friendly if you ask me..
That is not true. Not everyone in fidonet is so friendly but that is
the exception not the rule.
I am willing to help anyone who needs help get on their feet regardless
of what net it is. Netmail/echomail works easily for that purpose.
Me also. I have also seen the Z1 NC offer help to folks re: getting a net/node number or echo feed if their local NC is AWOL.
SyncTerm was my gateway into Retronet, which directly led to my
current obsession with building a kick-ass emulated Amiga to match the
Amiga 4000 I always wanted but was too poor to own.
On 08-30-22 08:31, Irish_Monk wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah it's not looking great for RetroNet. I am still officially linked, but as I said, crickets. Pity, it was a good net. :(
Hopefully all those users came over here to FSXNET and FSXNET as
everyone knows has a message base for RETRO.
On 08-31-22 01:00, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The only time I used a BBS on my phone was on holiday early this year,
and having to do it on an old Nokia (old! it had a keypad) was kind of rought, especially when putty wouldn't break the lines properly and
input and output got garbled.
Less of a problem on android with ConnectBot. As nice as it is, when
I'm on holiday, it is probably best to BE on holiday. It's not so important here that i can't go a week or two without posting or
reading.
On 08-30-22 08:44, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I tend to not do many long messages on a smartphone. I think it's more difficult to type on a smartphone screen keyboard, and I type a lot slower. I much prefer a real PC keyboard for typing messages, but
that's probably because I've been touch-typing for many years, and I
type a lot faster on a real PC keyboard.
I prefer a PC as well, but I can still do reasonably well on a smartphone if necessary. Too much time spent on Facebook, where mobile reading is much easier than trying to use the bloated web interface. :D
Geri Atricks wrote to faeempress <=-
Yes, I run SFNet. It's a netwrork for all things SciFi/Fantasy/Anime/Gaming. You can get the packet off my main
website: furmenservices.net It's available for both QWK and FTN networking.
Yes, I run SFNet. It's a netwrork for all things
SciFi/Fantasy/Anime/Gaming. You can get the packet off my main
website: furmenservices.net It's available for both QWK and FTN
networking.
But........ is there any traffic?
On 09-01-22 08:50, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I can type well-ish on a smartphone, but still not very fast (compared
to how I type on a real keyboard). The slow speed of typing is enough
for me to not want to post very long messages most of the time.
If one wants to start a 'net, why not just run the BBS for that purpose? It's not like we can't call BBS's outside of our own region anymore. Set up a BBS for that topic, and just have the message forums local. You'll have complete control.
I think you answered your own question in another message where you talk about wanting to only have to call one or two boards in order to participate in the areas you want. A lot of people are not going to call another board to find a local-only network.
Ogg said to boraxman: <=-
And "where the people are" probably includes mobile devices.
:/
Gamgee said to boraxman: <=-
boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The whole "spirit" is lost when its converted to an instant
messaging type of thing, and the advantages and uniqueness
disappear. The more I think about it, the more I think the lack
of options for mobile isn't really a problem. Is it really a
good idea to turn this "old style" method of communication into a
copy of what already exists? Maybe its better that its not
relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe people here who
already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for themselves?
I agree completely with this post! I think it is definitely *NOT* a
good idea to try and do BBS/echomail with a mobile device, and hope
efforts to make it work are discouraged.
acn wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yes, I run SFNet. It's a netwrork for all things
SciFi/Fantasy/Anime/Gaming. You can get the packet off my main
website: furmenservices.net It's available for both QWK and FTN
networking.
But........ is there any traffic?
SFNet has a huuuuge number of echos and each one gets a monthly
"rules" posting.
Besides that, it's a quite low-volume network (at least in the
echos that I've subscribed).
Bex wrote to Gamgee <=-
I agree completely with this post! I think it is definitely *NOT* a
good idea to try and do BBS/echomail with a mobile device, and hope efforts to make it work are discouraged.
I've seen the spiritual twins of this argument going on since the
late '80s. I've seen it in BBSs, I've seen it in Fidonet itself,
I've seen it in alernate nets, I've seen it on The Well. It boils
down to people being afraid of change. New users are new users,
and we old folks could use some young whipper-snappers to come in
and freshen things up.
A new method of getting into Fidonet could lead to new users,
which could lead to new ideas, which could lead to a further
evolution of Fidonet.
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
Besides that, it's a quite low-volume network (at least in the
echos that I've subscribed).
Okay, I'm gonna translate "quite low-volume" to mean "yet another dead network" that I won't bother with... Thanks for the info.
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
Adept wrote to Gamgee <=-
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
I've seen them, and agree. But I _still_ hope that eventually
it'll work better.
But I like the idea of BBS technology evolving a bit. I like
various old things about BBSs (e.g., the lack of pictures is a
_feature_), but it'd be nice for the technology to improve.
But I think this is also a bit of one of those age-old arguments
here, with people wanting to preserve the old versus people
wanting to extend what's there, possibly in ways that might
affect the old.
Atreyu wrote to Gamgee <=-
On 02 Sep 22 08:35:00, Gamgee said the following to Acn:
Besides that, it's a quite low-volume network (at least in the
echos that I've subscribed).
Okay, I'm gonna translate "quite low-volume" to mean "yet another dead network" that I won't bother with... Thanks for the info.
It could be argued that theres no point to joining any Othernet.
Nowadays anyone running an Othernet will eventually attract the
same Sysops, same convo, same noise.
Not enough demand for the supply...
Atreyu wrote to Gamgee <=-
On 02 Sep 22 08:39:00, Gamgee said the following to Bex:
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
Its amusing to me that Telegram is considered "progress"... a
weird app thats gated by a weird russian that adds weird kludges.
At least his system is a convoluted house of cards, whenever his
system takes a nosedive it takes down that stupid gateway, if
only for the moment.
I can't wait for him to permanently nosedive.
Not enough demand for the supply...
Agreed on all. This one we're on here seems to be OK though, and
perhaps one other net... Within the last few weeks I've dumped 5 dead networks from my board.
At least his system is a convoluted house of cards, whenever his
system takes a nosedive it takes down that stupid gateway, if
only for the moment.
Ahhh, didn't know it had a single-point-of-failure. Good.
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which
caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's
usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change
your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
** On Friday 02.09.22 - 08:39, Gamgee wrote to Bex:
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which
caters to posting from a mobile device (I guess it's
usually 'Telegram')? If not, you should. You might change
your thinking if you see the mess that it creates.
The requoting system for replies is still a work in progress
and is tweakable.
Replies utilize MSGID and REPLYID and
threads are really easy to follow with fidonet readers.
Adept wrote to Gamgee <=-
But I like the idea of BBS technology evolving a bit. I like various
old things about BBSs (e.g., the lack of pictures is a _feature_)...
Atreyu wrote to Gamgee <=-
Nowadays anyone running an Othernet will eventually attract the same Sysops, same convo, same noise.
One good thing about some of the othernets is that, unlike FIDO, they at least won't put up with certain sysops and their sock-puppets trolling the echoes. That is a big plus for both this network and Micronet.
If anyone needs proof of what I'm saying, take a 2-minute
peek at the "RPG Literature" echo. You won't need the
whole 2 minutes, either.
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
** On Saturday 03.09.22 - 07:17, Gamgee wrote to Ogg:
If anyone needs proof of what I'm saying, take a 2-minute
peek at the "RPG Literature" echo. You won't need the
whole 2 minutes, either.
References of "Right. So, now all Sharon needs to do is"
197 25.08 Dr Sharon Aitken And I
still want to read
367 25.08 }--August Abolins i thought
JD created a Kindle
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but that was for Richa
334 25.08 | | }--August Abolins Right.
So, now all Sharon nee
199 25.08 | | | }--Dr Sharon Aitken I'm happy
to buy
555 25.08 | | | | }--Richard Falken
555 25.08 | | | | `--Richard Falken
199 25.08 | | | `--Dr Sharon Aitken I'm happy
to buy
555 25.08 | | | }--Richard Falken
555 25.08 | | | `--Richard Falken
No problem.
But........ is there any traffic?
The whole "spirit" is lost when its converted to an instant
messaging type of thing, and the advantages and uniqueness
disappear. The more I think about it, the more I think the lack
of options for mobile isn't really a problem. Is it really a
good idea to turn this "old style" method of communication into a copy of what already exists? Maybe its better that its not
relevant to modern forms. But then, maybe people here who
already use BBS's wish for mobile options, for themselves?
I agree completely with this post! I think it is definitely *NOT* a good idea to try and do BBS/echomail with a mobile device, and hope efforts to make it work are discouraged.
I've seen the spiritual twins of this argument going on since the late '80s. I've seen it in BBSs, I've seen it in Fidonet itself, I've seen it in alernate nets, I've seen it on The Well. It boils down to people being afraid of change. New users are new users, and we old folks could use
some young whipper-snappers to come in and freshen things up.
A new method of getting into Fidonet could lead to new users, which could lead to new ideas, which could lead to a further evolution of Fidonet.
I say bring it on!
I've seen them, and agree. But I _still_ hope that eventually it'll work better.
But I like the idea of BBS technology evolving a bit. I like various old things about BBSs (e.g., the lack of pictures is a _feature_), but it'd
be nice for the technology to improve.
But I think this is also a bit of one of those age-old arguments here, with people wanting to preserve the old versus people wanting to extend what's there, possibly in ways that might affect the old.
BBS's are unique, and Facebook *IS* poison. I prefer things on the older "social media" because it IS better. You don't abandon your niche to
try and compete with someone else who is dominant in theirs.
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
Replies utilize MSGID and REPLYID and
threads are really easy to follow with fidonet readers.
Geri Atricks wrote to Gamgee <=-
But........ is there any traffic?
Some, as with all networks, the amount of traffic depends on how active the member nodes are and how much traffic THEY get. Of course, the more nodes, the higher the chance of traffic.
Not even sure what you're trying to show here.
I've seen the spiritual twins of this argument going on since the late
'80s. I've seen it in BBSs, I've seen it in Fidonet itself, I've seen it in alernate nets, I've seen it on The Well. It boils down to people being afraid of change. New users are new users, and we old folks could use some young whipper-snappers to come in and freshen things up.
A new method of getting into Fidonet could lead to new users, which could lead to new ideas, which could lead to a further evolution of Fidonet.
I say bring it on!
BBS's are unique, and Facebook *IS* poison. I prefer things on the o "social media" because it IS better. You don't abandon your niche to try and compete with someone else who is dominant in theirs.
I think I feel the same way you do. But it would be nice to get a few
more quality users in on the NETS and BBS's. It will most likely never
be like in the 90's. Im not trying to be negative, But as I think about
it a little more, BBS land wasnt perfect neither. I remember having "trolls" and problem users on my BBS. Of course since I only had about
100 users, maybe 2 were bad or so., and then when MIRC became popular it seemed worse with the the quality of users. So the more popular and flooded with people, especially the way people are now, theres going to
be those people who cause problems unfortunately.
I really enjoy the old style BBS but I think its really cool how a
couple of the BBS have a web page BBS also, (best way I can explain it) Which also links to the actual BBS. I have some quality people I work
with that could bring a lot to the BBS community and I was surprise to find out they had no clue what a BBS was...
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
Not even sure what you're trying to show here.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
vorlon wrote to Bex <=-
@MSGID: <631017C4.34424.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <630E6FEB.34404.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@TZ: 0258
Hi Bex,
I'm currently in the process of re-building my Amiga 4000 setup after
the MB sufferd from those damm caps leaking...
Have now got the old thing back, installed a 120Gb IDE hd and put os
3.1 on it, the A3660, 12Mb of Fast ram, 2Mb chip. Got it currently
hooked to a Asus 22" lcd that can do 15khz via a Amiga-VGA adaptor.
Pondering if I should put the Cybervision RTG card into her.
Vk3jed wrote to boraxman <=-
@MSGID: <6310931D.34428.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <630E0D65.34399.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@TZ: 0258
I'm not a big fan of interactive posting. I discovered QWK (and later Bluewave) offline mail in my first year of BBSing and never looked
back. :)
vorlon wrote to Bex <=-
@MSGID: <631017C4.34424.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <630E6FEB.34404.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@TZ: 0258
Hi Bex,
I'm currently in the process of re-building my Amiga 4000 setup after
the MB sufferd from those damm caps leaking...
Have now got the old thing back, installed a 120Gb IDE hd and put os
3.1 on it, the A3660, 12Mb of Fast ram, 2Mb chip. Got it currently
hooked to a Asus 22" lcd that can do 15khz via a Amiga-VGA adaptor.
Pondering if I should put the Cybervision RTG card into her.
Vk3jed wrote to boraxman <=-
@MSGID: <6310931D.34428.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <630E0D65.34399.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@TZ: 0258
I'm not a big fan of interactive posting. I discovered QWK (and later Bluewave) offline mail in my first year of BBSing and never looked
back. :)
I'm currently in the process of re-building my Amiga 4000 setup
after the MB sufferd from those damm caps leaking...
Yeah, the horror stories of leaking caps made me decide to emulate an
A4000 instead of going the hardware route. I've restored enough
computers in my life, I just want something that works.
Plus, my 7 year old laptop is still hundreds of times faster than an
actual A4000. :)
Pondering if I should put the Cybervision RTG card into her.
I can't see any reason you shouldn't, except for maybe cost?
Yep, well your snarky comment, with no context provided,
doesn't change the fact that attempting to read a FidoNet
echo that is being posted to with Telegram is an exercise
in futility. The complete lack of quoting and context
makes it completely unusable.
You can argue all you want, and post jumbled up gibberish
attempting to convince otherwise, but all one needs to do
is to go look at one of these echos to see that I am right.
It's really that simple.
Yeah, the horror stories of leaking caps made me decide to emulate an A4000 instead of going the hardware route. I've restored enough
computers in my life, I just want something that works.
Plus, my 7 year old laptop is still hundreds of times faster than an actual A4000. :)
If they are caught early enough, then restoring them is like having a new machine. Luckly mine was only minor, but enough to cause issues. The mb now looks fresh and clean.
Unfortunately, that is exactly right. Using Juice SSH on my android
device I can SSH into my Linux box and then use ncurses SyncTerm to get
to other boards, but the display and the keyboard are so small that it isn't worth it.
[OpenXP thread tree]If anyone needs proof of what I'm saying, take a 2-minute
peek at the "RPG Literature" echo. You won't need the
whole 2 minutes, either.
References of "Right. So, now all Sharon needs to do is"
No problem.
A new method of getting into Fidonet could lead to new users, which could lead to new ideas, which could lead to a further evolution of Fidonet.
I say bring it on!
Gamgee wrote to Bex <=-
@MSGID: <63120C85.34455.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <6311FCC7.34451.fsxnet_fsx_gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@TZ: fed4
Bex wrote to Gamgee <=-
I've seen it in alernate nets, I've seen it on The Well. It boils
down to people being afraid of change. New users are new users,
Perhaps some resistance to change, yes.
A new method of getting into Fidonet could lead to new users,
Have you actually *looked* at an echo on Fidonet which caters to
posting from a mobile device (I guess it's usually 'Telegram')? If
not, you should. You might change your thinking if you see the mess
Arelor wrote to Bex <=-
with oranges as Classy Oranges Inc.
You don't get new youg customers by turning into an Orange company
because you are not going to be better at it than other Orange
companies. You get them by reaching to them and convincing them that peaches are fucking awesome.
Adept wrote to Gamgee <=-
But I like the idea of BBS technology evolving a bit. I like various
old things about BBSs (e.g., the lack of pictures is a _feature_), but it'd be nice for the technology to improve.
But I think this is also a bit of one of those age-old arguments here, with people wanting to preserve the old versus people wanting to extend what's there, possibly in ways that might affect the old.
If they are caught early enough, then restoring them is like
having a new machine. Luckly mine was only minor, but enough to
cause issues. The mb now looks fresh and clean.
The trick is restoring them /well/ - there's a bit of an art and a
science to working with electronic components, something I've had to
learn the hard way. But it was important to me to be able to
maintain all my equipment, which unfortunately meant along the way I'd
have to make some (costly) mistakes. But that's the only way to
hone my craft...
I sent my boards away to get done. Yes I know how to solder etc, but I'm just not that confident/willing to work on these things with how old they are. The A600 had some nice green junk on it, and had to have a bath.
It's now back and working 100%... I need to re-set her up, but have been playing with the A4000 & A3000 testing new linux kernel's...
I've been watching "Chris Edwards Restoration" on youtube and what he has managed to recover has been amazing...
That's why I sent my boards away %-; I just didn't want to risk making more of a mess, and with how much boards are going for even *IF* I could locate one... $-<
I hear what you are saying, but your metaphor is a little faulty. In this case, I'm not talking about turning into an orange company. Instead, we're saying that peaches are still 95% of the business, but there's one small section for people who are looking for oranges. The youngsters walk into
the store, buy some oranges, but see so many types of peaches that they decide they want to try some.
You don't get new youg customers by turning into an Orange company because you are not going to be better at it than other Orange companies. You get them by reaching to them and convincing them that peaches are fucking awesome.
I hear what you are saying, but your metaphor is a little faulty. In this case, I'm not talking about turning into an orange company. Instead,
we're saying that peaches are still 95% of the business, but there's one small section for people who are looking for oranges. The youngsters
walk into the store, buy some oranges, but see so many types of peaches that they decide they want to try some.
On 09-02-22 20:17, Bex wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Amen to that! I started using Q-Blue as a QWK/Blue Wave reader on the Amiga for years and years - I kept an old A1000 around just so I could
use Q-Blue. I got into BBSing my first year in college - 1990. Now
thatI built an emulated Amiga 4000, the second thing that I installed
was Q-Blue 2.4.
My biggest problem with writing messages while online is I am
constantly pulled away from my computer. I might start typing
something, then have to go do a task, then forget what I was doing and
go get lunch, and by the time I get back to my computer the connection
to the BBS had been terminated an hour ago.
Fortunately Q-Blue and MultiMail will wait for me to come back. :)
References of "Right. So, now all Sharon needs to do is"[OpenXP thread tree]
No problem.
If I see the thread view correctly, it really shows one
problem: the subject of the thread changes with (almost)
every message. Why is that happening?
Ogg wrote to acn <=-
If I see the thread view correctly, it really shows one
problem: the subject of the thread changes with (almost)
every message. Why is that happening?
First, anyone in Fidonet can change a subject, or have none all
too for that matter. ;)
But from the Tg side, the challenge is to provide a reasonable
Subject to fit the Fidonet expectation of having one (or not),
when the Tg environment operates without needing a Subject.
But Stas made a very clever innovation and simply uses the
first 40 chars of the body of the message as the Subject.
Looking at it from the Fidoside, it serves to be a kind of
message preview. I think it's good and better than absolutely
nothing, or just three dots which was the result of earlier implementations.
Further along into development the feature to actually include
a Subject was added.
Now, IF a TgBBS user fails to enter a Subject, the system will
take the 1st 40 chars of the message.
What particularly one (and only one) user is doing in the
LITRPG echo is failing to enter a Subject *and* not using the
typical R)eply feature to some messages. :(
However it's fairly straight forward to follow the thread since
most messages are FEW, and chronological and in sequence, and
MSGID and REPLYIDs are utilized.
Further discussion about all this is best in the dedicated Fido FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo.
My A4000 needs a recap badly and there is some green fuzz in there,
can't say I'm thrilled about that. I tried to neutralize it with
alcohol and a toothbrush but it still seems to be on there. I wonder if
at some point it makes sense to pull the chips of the mobo and source a reproduction PCB. Maybe that can come later.
It's now back and working 100%... I need to re-set her up, but
have been playing with the A4000 & A3000 testing new linux
kernel's...
You're using linux on your A4000 and A3000? Now I'm super curious lol.
What linux distro? What kernels? Is it on the stock 030/040 CPUs? How
well is other hardware chips, etc., understood by the kernel?
I've been watching "Chris Edwards Restoration" on youtube and
what he has managed to recover has been amazing...
Indeed, that guy is a machine. His videos are all very impressive.
Also, I think he made Pimiga which is super neat.
That's why I sent my boards away %-; I just didn't want to risk
making more of a mess, and with how much boards are going for even
*IF* I could locate one... $-<
Yeah, it's a catch-22. I have recently begun picking up old
non-functional CRT monitors to try to restore since people just trash
them and typically it's something simple, but I've probably almost electrocuted myself to death a half dozen times by now. Yeah, there's
a reason the experts are considered experts hehe.
Yes. I've got Debian 11 installed on the A3000 as the main os, and the A4000 changes between 3.1 and debian. The lastest working kernel is 5.15, and I've been testing/reporting issues with the latter ones 5.18/5.19 crash due to a regression. Still working with the guys on the debian m68k mailing list to sort it out.
Both machhines are running 68040's @ 40mhz, so slow is a understatement compaired to todays machines.
Perhaps contact him to get your board looked at?
I lost a C= 1084s at the start of the year. Cracked board, leaking caps, dead HT, broken ring around the crt neck....
Yes. I've got Debian 11 installed on the A3000 as the main os,
and the A4000 changes between 3.1 and debian. The lastest working
kernel is 5.15, and I've been testing/reporting issues with the
latter ones 5.18/5.19 crash due to a regression. Still working with
the guys on th debian m68k mailing list to sort it out.
Wow, fascinating. I'd love to see some videos if you have any
means/interest to make some :)
Both machhines are running 68040's @ 40mhz, so slow is a
understatement compaired to todays machines.
I'm curious, what's the benefit of using linux on these machines in
that case?
To me the value prop of Amiga hardware is running Amiga software
natively. That's not to say I would be unable to appreciate linux on
these devices, I'm actually a fan of the concept as it would be fun to figure out.
It is not FSXNET or DoveNET, but Micronet is far from deadly quiet. It has regular posters and everything.
Yes. I've got Debian 11 installed on the A3000 as the main os, and the A4000 changes between 3.1 and debian. The lastest working kernel is 5.15, and I've been testing/reporting issues with the latter ones 5.18/5.19
Seems like there was one new sysop or user that joined in recent weeks that was generating a lot of traffic with some good discussion. He
either disappeared or ran out of things to say.
Seems like there was one new sysop or user that joined in recent weeks that was generating a lot of traffic with some
good discussion. He
either disappeared or ran out of things to say.
Yeah, that happens. Especially if the posted message doesn't garner any replys, then the posters just get frustrated and
give up.
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