Hello All,
So I am just curious. I have been back into BBSing for a few months now.
Its a blast! I see a lot of chatting about "making more popular, more
users, etc..". So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since 1995, how has the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been? Did it pick up a couple years back with everyone being stuck in their homes for Covid? (Seems a lot of people got back into hobbies they did not have time for during this time period) Has it picked up a little lately? I noticed quite a few users like myself that were into BBSing years ago coming back
to it within the last few years. On the telnet BBS guide, is that an accurate count of about how many BBS's are left? I know some people run multiple BBS with different software a lot of the times, it seems,
probably because its fun setting them up and learning new softwares is probably a fun challange. Some people said it was really quiet during the summer months and picks up during the winter a little more?
Sorry about the long message, I hope everyone has a good day, its nice to get on here and away from the stresses of every day life and just Relax.
|10I|02rish_|10M|02onk
.. I put a dollar in one of those change machines. Nothing changed.
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* Origin: WarpeD SocieTy (21:4/184)
I see a lot of chatting about "making more popular, more users, etc..". Ir> So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since 1995, how has Ir> the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been?
Did it pick up a couple years back with everyone being stuck in their Ir> homes for Covid?
On the telnet BBS guide, is that an accurate count of about how many Ir> BBS's are left?
I closed my BBS in 2005 because I got ADSL. Well, basically now I'm reading echo conferences through Outlook. Did BBS die? Yes, who knows? I think they have always been.
So I am just curious. I have been back into BBSing for a few months now. Its a blast! I see a lot of chatting about "making more popular, more users, etc..". So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since 1995, how has the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been? Did it pick up a couple years back with everyone being stuck in their homes for Covid? (Seems a lot of people got back into hobbies they did not have time
I see a lot of chatting about "making more popular, more users, etc..
So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since 1995, ho
the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been?
Hell no - l00k around; we got active FTNs, plenty of rad/active bbSes, modders, groups, ANSI - we've got a bbSphere!
off in the summer. I see waves; sometimes you see in influx of users - some YouTube video by a popular creator, or a product - a WiFi Modem for
a large retro community, etc... waves.
Long story short; I have many friends from the current bbS community. It ain't dead. :P
I stopped running my original 90s BBS in 2000 and started up again in
2007 when I realized some people still run and use BBSes. But even
since 2007, it seems the BBS community is not nearly what it used to be
at its height in the 90s. Lately, I mostly read & post on a couple message networks and I see some of the same names in both places. My current BBS does get some callers, but I remember getting more callers
on my local dialup BBS in the 90s.
Also, one sign of the low popularity of BBSes is when I try to search for BBS-related things on Google, sometimes relevant search results don't appear on the first page unless I use fairly specific terms related to BBSes. For example, if you just search for BBS on Google, the first search result (right now anyway) is BBS Wheels (for cars).
Yeah I dont think we will ever see interest in BBSing like we did in the 90's. But its still a lot of fun!! and a lot of really cool people on here for sure.
Thats awesome and really good to hear!! I am amazed how friendly people are here and so willing to help out. Being out of it for more than 25 years I definitely had needed help and tons of people have done that. I really appreciate it!!
Plex can also be used as a DVR to record broadcast TV content, so it Ni> helps to keep it turned on for that too (though I don't DVR much these Ni> days)..
paulie420 wrote to Nightfox <=-h
Plex can also be used as a DVR to record broadcast TV content, so it Ni>
elps to keep it turned on for that too (though I don't DVR much
these Ni> days)..
I read that you don't do it much anymore, but... how does one
record broadcast TV thru Plex - or I guess the better question is
how can I capture (and then record w/ Plex) broadcast TV?? Reason
I ask is that I use streaming and don't have any cable internet
these days, and I've long been l00king for a solution to simply
get Portland (local) news broadcasts daily - with no good fix...
for 5 years.
I read that you don't do it much anymore, but... how does one record broadcast TV thru Plex - or I guess the better question is
how
can I capture (and then record w/ Plex) broadcast TV?? Reason I ask is that I use streaming and don't have any cable internet
these
days, and I've long been l00king for a solution to simply get Portland (local) news broadcasts daily - with no good fix... for 5
years.
I read that you don't do it much anymore, but... how does one record broadcast TV thru Plex - or I guess the better question is how can I capture (and then record w/ Plex) broadcast TV??
Plex can also be used as a DVR to record broadcast TV content, so it Ni> h
I read that you don't do it much anymore, but... how does one record broadcast TV thru Plex - or I guess the better question is how can I capture (and then record w/ Plex) broadcast TV?? Reason I ask is that I use streaming and don't have any cable internet these days, and I've long been l00king for a solution to simply get Portland (local) news broadcasts daily - with no good fix... for 5 years.
I read that you don't do it much anymore, but... how does one record broadcast TV thru Plex - or I guess the better
question is how
can I capture (and then record w/ Plex) broadcast TV?? Reason I ask is that I use streaming and don't have any cable
internet these
days, and I've long been l00king for a solution to simply get Portland (local) news broadcasts daily - with no good
fix... for 5 years.
Irish_Monk wrote to All <=-
more users, etc..". So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since 1995, how has the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its
been? Did it pick up a couple years back with everyone being stuck in their homes for Covid? (Seems a lot of people got back into hobbies
they did not have time for during this time period)
As best as I can tell, it did pick up some after COVID hit. There have also been a few people here and there who have said they are back because they are burned out on modern social media and/or don't trust it.
I DVR occasionally but not a whole lot. You need a TV tuner compatible with your Plex server, and you also need to subscribe<CUT>
to Plex Pass for premium features (or buy the lifetime Plex Pass membership - Sometimes they have a sale on that). When you
And also a HDHomerun Flex 4K (it's a network streaming tuner, which Plex works with as well):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092GCN9NL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
As best as I can tell, it did pick up some after COVID hit. There have also been a few people here and there who have said they are back because they are burned out on modern social media and/or don't trust it.
Seems like some of the folks that came back have already gone on, but some others have stuck around.
I DVR occasionally but not a whole lot. You need a TV tuner
you better be right... for 200 bucks it better work LOL
been looking for something like this anyway so the missus can watch TV and i can watch it in the living room LOL
Yeah, thats a huge reason I came back also. I just dont
like modern day social media. Its way too commercialized.
Of course, this is just me, but I think its weird how
people have to have friends on facebook they really dont
know anymore(from like elementary school, etc..). And then
sorta invite them in, to see all your family pics, updates
of exactly what you are doing. But, Im also the kind of
guy who likes a small good quality friend circle and not
quantinty. Everyone is different tho!!
Hello Irish_Monk!
** On Monday 03.10.22 - 19:47, Irish_Monk wrote to Blue White:
Yeah, thats a huge reason I came back also. I just dont
like modern day social media. Its way too commercialized.
Of course, this is just me, but I think its weird how
people have to have friends on facebook they really dont
know anymore(from like elementary school, etc..). And then
sorta invite them in, to see all your family pics, updates
of exactly what you are doing. But, Im also the kind of
guy who likes a small good quality friend circle and not
quantinty. Everyone is different tho!!
I think FB has been largely successful because it gives people
a sense of control over their content and emulates a kind of
personal website. BBSes don't offer that for its users.
I think FB has been largely successful because it gives people
a sense of control over their content and emulates a kind of
personal website. BBSes don't offer that for its users.
[...] and that's why people started to move away from
MySpace and use Facebook instead (I thought that was a
little weird - I think it gave a sense of peoples'
personalities).
These days, I've been hearing a lot of people don't use
Facebook anymore and are using Instagram more often. But I
don't really see Instagram as a replacement for Facebook,
since Instagram only lets you post photos, whereas Facebook
lets you post pretty much any kind of content.
These days, I've been hearing a lot of people don't use
Facebook anymore and are using Instagram more often. But I
don't really see Instagram as a replacement for Facebook,
since Instagram only lets you post photos, whereas Facebook
lets you post pretty much any kind of content.
I've heard the same that FB membership is on a decline, but I
haven't heard what users are replacing it with. Instagram
seems like a total waste of time to me; it doesn't foster comms
- it foster's "look at me and my stuff!"
I've heard the same that FB membership is on a decline, but I
haven't heard what users are replacing it with. Instagram
seems like a total waste of time to me; it doesn't foster comms
- it foster's "look at me and my stuff!"
I think FB has been largely successful because it gives people
a sense of control over their content and emulates a kind of personal website. BBSes don't offer that for its users.
Maybe someone could make an add on for that. Your account credentials
set up as a Profile page viewable on the web. Give that to them and
they will come :D
DrClaw
I think FB has been largely successful because it gives people
a sense of control over their content and emulates a kind of
personal website. BBSes don't offer that for its users.
Less control than MySpace offered. Facebook offers little
control actually.
It's used because of a Network effect. [...]
Facebook by and large sucks, is pretty lousy. IT really
only has one killer feature. You can find other people you
know there and its kind of easy to use (though I found it
quite difficult myself).
I think FB has been largely successful because it gives people
a sense of control over their content and emulates a kind of
personal website. BBSes don't offer that for its users.
Less control than MySpace offered. Facebook offers little
control actually.
I *did* say "SENSE of control", and less fuss and bother of
building a personal website.
It's used because of a Network effect. [...]
That too.
Facebook by and large sucks, is pretty lousy. IT really
only has one killer feature. You can find other people you
know there and its kind of easy to use (though I found it
quite difficult myself).
Yes.. looking up and finding other people who are hopefully
using FB is a plus. BBSes don't have that. Maybe if BBSes had
something similar to looking up a name or alias, then people
might like to enjoy participating on the same BBS or meet in
similar echos.
It loooks like IM from mobile platforms is the prefered substitute for facebook and other common social media, which sounds bonkers to me
because they are not the same thing at all. However, that is how it seems to be :-)
That is one thing I did find useful, I could look up, and
get into touch with old school colleagues. [...] The idea
that we have to give an American Silicon Valley behmoth our
personal data so we can be sold ads, manipulated and
tracked just to chat to people we went to school with is
horrifying. It's like selling your soul to the devil.
I don't think that BBS's could do that, unless you pooled
user lists, but then, that is a privacy issue, and people
like me and you use aliases anyway.
It wouldn't work of course, because we developed a culture
where people default to being passive consumers of product
and services, instead of building their own world and
helping themselves. In which case, I'm happy to say that
I'd rather then that Social Media didn't exist at all, and
this would be better than what we have now.
That is one thing I did find useful, I could look up, and
get into touch with old school colleagues. [...] The idea
that we have to give an American Silicon Valley behmoth our
personal data so we can be sold ads, manipulated and
tracked just to chat to people we went to school with is
horrifying. It's like selling your soul to the devil.
It is terrible how that info was processed. Cambridge-Analytica
anyone?
I don't think that BBS's could do that, unless you pooled
user lists, but then, that is a privacy issue, and people
like me and you use aliases anyway.
The fidonet sysop at net 460 has a lookup that works like
FILEFIND. It can search for anything in an echomail message.
It wouldn't work of course, because we developed a culture
where people default to being passive consumers of product
and services, instead of building their own world and
helping themselves. In which case, I'm happy to say that
I'd rather then that Social Media didn't exist at all, and
this would be better than what we have now.
In the end, it's probably wise to be NOT easily discoverable.
Privacy is emerging as the single-most thing that we ought to
have control of.
As for *capturing* local broadcasts, pretty much everything (local) is Ga> available these days (in high definition, no less) over the air; which Ga> can be received with an HDTV antenna (sort of like the old fashioned Ga> "rabbit ears" type thing).
Easy peasy - I used to use one of these:
https://youtu.be/mW9DRcv56yQ
There's a good video that was just published during "Plex Pro Week" that walks you though that:
https://youtu.be/Dzk48EK5zNY
I DVR occasionally but not a whole lot. You need a TV tuner compatible with your Plex server, and you also need to subscribe to Plex Pass for premium features (or buy the lifetime Plex Pass membership - Sometimes they have a sale on that). When you configure a TV tuner with Plex, it has a live TV function where you can view broadcast TV channels with it (Plex will stream it to your devices) - Plex has an interface similar to
a TV Guide where you can choose what channel/program to watch, and
there's an option to have it record TV shows/movies/other content being broadcast.
I have a couple TV Tuners set up with my Plex PC - An internal PCI
Express card: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZSVLTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_t
And also a HDHomerun Flex 4K (it's a network streaming tuner, which Plex works with as well): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092GCN9NL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_t
As for *capturing* local broadcasts, pretty much everything (local) is Ga>
Ahhhh - I've seen them before; didn't even think that I could sniff the airwaves w/ the new digital HDTV stuff. I didn't even think about that; thanks.
There is a danger that were given back privacy, but still
lose autonomy. We still can be cut off from others
arbitrarily, or because we don't align with some foreign
companies values. I'm in Australia, and for me to be
booted off Social Media, cutting me from communication with
people who I went to school with here, because that company
thought something I posted didn't match their foreign,
values, kind of doesn't sit well with me.
Super cool; some others already suggested the HDHomerun, but the Flex
4K is prolly just a better model. This is rad, and I think I'm gonna
add SOME TV tuner into my Plex setup.
While I don't 'want' for much thru cutting the cable cord, this would
be the final piece. I just want local news and some other local stuff
- sounds like I can iron it out w/ just a bit more hardware... have
most everything else in place.
Ogg wrote to boraxman <=-
Hello boraxman!
** On Sunday 09.10.22 - 02:07, boraxman wrote to Ogg:
There is a danger that were given back privacy, but still
lose autonomy. We still can be cut off from others
arbitrarily, or because we don't align with some foreign
companies values. I'm in Australia, and for me to be
booted off Social Media, cutting me from communication with
people who I went to school with here, because that company
thought something I posted didn't match their foreign,
values, kind of doesn't sit well with me.
In that case, the only alternative you might have is to use a
paid system. A service that collects a fee for comms wouldn't
boot off its users.
A couple of free social media types could still work: Briar,
and Session. Both have private channels, as well as groups and
forums.
As for *capturing* local broadcasts, pretty much everything (local) is Ga>> available these days (in high definition,
As for *capturing* local broadcasts, pretty much everything (local) is Ga>> no
less) over the air; which Ga> can be received with an HDTV antenna (sort of like the old fashioned Ga>> "rabbit ears"
thing).
Ahhhh - I've seen them before; didn't even think that I could sniff the airwaves w/ the new digital HDTV stuff. I didn't
even think about that; thanks.
Ahhh; thanks too - another option. Yea, I'm in the US but appreciate the info most. Thanks.
I have a couple TV Tuners set up with my Plex PC - An internal PCISuper cool; some others already suggested the HDHomerun, but the Flex 4K is prolly just a better model. This is rad, and I
Express card: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZSVLTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_t
And also a HDHomerun Flex 4K (it's a network streaming tuner, which Plex works with as well):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B092GCN9NL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_t
think I'm gonna add SOME TV tuner into my Plex setup.
While I don't 'want' for much thru cutting the cable cord, this would be the final piece. I just want local news and some
other local stuff - sounds like I can iron it out w/ just a bit more hardware... have most everything else in place.
We particularity like having access to over-the-air local
news for things like elections or other important events.
We're fortunate to be located smack dab between Toronto &
Buffalo so we get the best of both worlds (NBC, CBS, ABC,
PBS, CW, FOX, CBC, CHCH, CTV & CTV2, GLOBAL, CITY) as well
as their sub channels like GRIT, BOUNCE, ANTENNA, REWIND,
GET, LAFF, etc.
It's worth noting that you need Plex Pass to use the DVR functions if you wanted to record anything.
yea i literally got a flex 4k the other day, plugged it in the living room and it worked. the only issue i have is like everything else, IT DOESNT WORK ACROSS SUBNETS/VLANS!!!
so what you want to watch it on has to be on the same subnet as the damn box... it pisses me off, it's why i can't chromecast from my pc to the living room tv. I dont know why people can't just make a damn box that you can load their software up with and tell it... HERE IS THE IP ADDRESS ..... don't multicast search the bullshit.. pisses me off.
Sometimes Plex has a discount on the lifetime Plex Pass (buy once and
have access to it forever). Last I saw, normally it's $120, but a
few years ago they had it for $80, and I decided to go ahead and get
that.
Re: Re: Plex Broadcast Recording
By: Charles Blackburn to paulie420 on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:22 am
yea i literally got a flex 4k the other day, plugged it in the living room and it worked. the only issue i have is
like everything else, IT DOESNT WORK ACROSS SUBNETS/VLANS!!!
In addition to the HDHomerun, I also got a Hauppauge PCI Express tuner card for my Plex system, so it would have a tuner
that's always accessible. The downside is, the Hauppauge tuner doesn't tune in ATSC 3.0 channels.. Plex still doesn't yet
have support for ATSC 3.0 audio though, which is frustrating. With the HDHomerun, Plex can get the video for ATSC 3.0
channels but not the audio.
yea i have an older analog tv tuner card... a good ol' win pctv lol.... i may get a tv tuner card, but my issue is my plex is in a VM so yea.... too lazy to scrwe around with pci passthrough
The HDHomerun tuners are standalone devices and connect to your network,
and Plex is able to use those. I imagine Plex running in a VM could still make use of one of those.
I use the Nvidia Shields on all TVs to run the various apps. I used to have several HDHomerun cable card units back before I was 100% streaming and they worked very well. I'm sure the antenna/local channel version is nice as wel
I'm a huge fan of Tablo which I think is a clone of Hdhomerun, have
the net-version in the home-rack, streaming all of my TV's here for
the OTA stuff via AmazonFire. Works perfectly.
We have a "stacked" antenna with one pointing towards Toronto and the other towards Buffalo, it works well enough though it can sometimes cut out during bad weather.
The HDHomerun tuners are standalone devices and connect to your
network, and Plex is able to use those. I imagine Plex running in a
VM could still make use of one of those.
You can also use an Nvidia Shield to run all those various apps. It will run Plex, Kodi, HDHomerun, and all the main streaming apps.
Re: Re: Plex Broadcast Recording
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Sun Oct 09 2022 05:33 pm
yea i have an older analog tv tuner card... a good ol' win pctv lol.... i may get a tv tuner card, but my issue is my plex is in a VM so yea.... too lazy to scrwe around with pciThe HDHomerun tuners are standalone devices and connect to your network, and Plex is able to use those. I imagine Plex running in a VM could still make use of one of those.
passthrough
On 11 Oct 22 09:46:04, Warpslide said the following to Atreyu:
The Tablo runs warm and sometimes looses the USB-connected hard drive; wishing stuff could be PVR'd to a Nas or network share instead of USB. Once in awhile the whole unit just drops off
the network. Just vanishes to nowhereville
until its power cycled. Debating on putting it on a mechanical outlet timer.
I'm a huge fan of Tablo which I think is a clone of Hdhomerun, have the net-version in the home-rack, streaming all of my TV's here for the OTA stuff via Amazon Fire. Works perfectly.
That's what we have going here as well. A 4 tuner box which gets worryingly hot, but were told that that's normal. We put thick rubber feet on the bottom and made sure it has plenty of space on all sides to that it can breathe.
I bought a Tablo network TV tuner last year, and I thought it was actually fairly nice. I heard Tablo doesn't tune ATSC 3.0 channels though, which is the main reason I returned my Tablo and bought a HDHomerun Flex 4K. I thoug the Tablo app had a bit better/more intuitive UI though.
Also, Plex can use the HDHomerun, but it seemed Plex didn't detect the Tablo and wasn't able to make use of it.
you could put it on a bootbox and reboot it from your armchair over the network :D I did that with the kids computer when he was younger and refuse to go to bed
he's fine now LOL
Hello boraxman!
** On Sunday 09.10.22 - 02:07, boraxman wrote to Ogg:
There is a danger that were given back privacy, but still
lose autonomy. We still can be cut off from others
arbitrarily, or because we don't align with some foreign
companies values. I'm in Australia, and for me to be
booted off Social Media, cutting me from communication with
people who I went to school with here, because that company
thought something I posted didn't match their foreign,
values, kind of doesn't sit well with me.
In that case, the only alternative you might have is to use a
paid system. A service that collects a fee for comms wouldn't
boot off its users.
A couple of free social media types could still work: Briar,
and Session. Both have private channels, as well as groups and
forums.
--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
Well as I wrote elsewhere here, I'd love it if Tablo could store PVR recordings on an SMB/Samba share on my Nas drives instead of the flakey USB external thats on there now. Does HD-Homerun do that? I may be
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm unfamiliar with
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm
unfamiliar with
OLD term ... BEFORE DVR ... (Personal Video Recorder)
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm
unfamiliar with the term PVR.
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm
unfamiliar with the term PVR.
PVR = Personal Video Recorder
It was popularized by Bell Canada here when they first came out with their satellite TV service. PVR is the same thing as DVR.
paulie420 said to Irish_Monk: <=-
I see a lot of chatting about "making more popular, more users,
So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since
the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been?
Hell no - l00k around; we got active FTNs, plenty of rad/active bbSes, modders, groups, ANSI - we've got a bbSphere!
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm unfamiliar with the term PVR.
PVR = Personal Video Recorder
It was popularized by Bell Canada here when they first came out with th
I'm a huge fan of Tablo which I think is a clone of Hdhomerun, have the net-version in the home-rack, streaming all of my TV's here for the OTA stuff via Amazon Fire. Works perfectly.
As far as the Plex client app & others, I don't have an Nvidia Shield, but
I do have a couple of Roku devices which run all those apps. Does the
Nvidia Shield do something that Roku & other platforms don't?
Well as I wrote elsewhere here, I'd love it if Tablo could store PVR recordings on an SMB/Samba share on my Nas drives instead of the flakey
USB external thats on there now. Does HD-Homerun do that? I may be misunderstanding your explanation. I vaguely remember looking at Plex a
long time ago but just settled for the VLC app. Its good enough for the moderate- sized collection of goodies here.
As far as the Plex client app & others, I don't have an Nvidia
Shield, but I do have a couple of Roku devices which run all those
apps. Does the Nvidia Shield do something that Roku & other platforms
don't?
You can hook up gaming controllers to the Shield and play games on it. It also has bluetooth, which is what the remote uses to communicate with it.
Do you have to pay anything for TV guide data farther out than 24 hours? I have never heard of Tablo, thanks for sharing the info.
I think Pluto and Tubi offer some limited local channels. Around here, our local channels are all crap "news" channels that I'm fine with not having.
Speaking of saving shows, I just used Allavsoft to download all the series t several old TV shows from the 80s from both Tubi and Pluto TV. This helps feed my data hoarding itch.
I could be wrong, because I was out of the BBS scene since I shut down my last board in the late-90s, so I have no actual data on this, but it seems like there was a major lull around 2008-2016 or so, and then things started to make a comeback about then. Then another lull around, and then the pandemic.
I do still think that we are in the end BBS times, once this group of nostalgia-seeking Gen Xers (I'm proudly in that group) moves on, there isn't going to be anyone who wants to bring it back. The nostalgia window is a moving window, driven mostly by people in their 40s and 50s. As they age out, the new group is nostalgia for other experiences.
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years max before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
I was using Locast to stream local channels for free until they were sued and had to terminate their service.
Bex wrote to paulie420 <=-
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years
max before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
Ah, interesting. I looked it up and I see it runs Android. I'd heard of
the Nvidia Shield but I didn't really know much about it. Sony tried something like that once (with their NSZ-GT1) - They had an Android
TV-based smart blu-ray player that had a remote control shaped like a game controller, since they wanted it to basically be a gaming platform too.
Not sure but I think I can scroll the guide as far as a week in advance.
I don't think we have the same Pluto/Tubi experience in Canucksville.
I have 17 thousand DVD's of hoarding... half of it is stuff absolutely no longer available, anywhere, seriously. Collecting obscure TV shows from
the 80's and 90's was my "specialty" at one time. B-movies, exploitation flicks, foreign, almost every horror/scifi flick ever made was another.
I wish there was a hoarder "swap meet", that would be a good idea for an
app or website. Remember that episode of A&E Hoarders where the crazy grandma was spending every waking moment taping every single sleezy
talkshow and soap from the 80's to the 90's... on VHS. *THAT* is the type
of hoarding collection I'd gladly pay for and take the time to convert to MKV.
But it has to be a complete collection, no missing episodes. All or
nothing.
I was also using Locast until they had to terminate their service. I had just started using Locast earlier in 2021 and had given them a 1-year donation a couple weeks before they terminated..
Hell no - l00k around; we got active FTNs, plenty of rad/active bbSes, modders, groups, ANSI - we've got a bbSphere!
I could be wrong, because I was out of the BBS scene since I shut down my last board in the late-90s, so I have no actual data on this, but it
seems like there was a major lull around 2008-2016 or so, and then
things started to make a comeback about then. Then another lull around, and then the pandemic.
I do still think that we are in the end BBS times, once this group of nostalgia-seeking Gen Xers (I'm proudly in that group) moves on, there isn't going to be anyone who wants to bring it back. The nostalgia window is a moving window, driven mostly by people in their 40s and 50s. As they age out, the new group is nostalgia for other experiences.
I feel like it's hard to know when (or if) BBSes will disappear. I've been running my current BBS more than twice as long as I ran my original BBS in the 90s. It's a hobby I enjoy, and I plan to keep running it and using it as long as there is some BBS activity. I've also developed
some scripts/mods for Synchronet, and I enjoy working on those.
I could be wrong, because I was out of the BBS scene since I shut down my last board in the late-90s, so I have no actual data on this, but it
seems like there was a major lull around 2008-2016 or so, and then
things started to make a comeback about then. Then another lull around, and then the pandemic.
I do still think that we are in the end BBS times, once this group of nostalgia-seeking Gen Xers (I'm proudly in that group) moves on, there isn't going to be anyone who wants to bring it back. The nostalgia window is a moving window, driven mostly by people in their 40s and 50s. As they age out, the new group is nostalgia for other experiences.
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years max
before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm unfamiliar
Same as DVR. Its likely a Canuck mannerism...
What is PVR? I know DVR is Digital Video Recorder, but I'm unfamili
Same as DVR. Its likely a Canuck mannerism...
Its really, Professional Video Recorder, won't record an amateur video :P
Its really, Professional Video Recorder, won't record an amateur video
Canuck shows are all amateur...
I don't think we're in the end - but more of the aftermath. I mean back in the bbS heyday, the activity and userspace of bbSes was HUGE; weaving all over America and other countries the same... it was the 'pre-internet' - it'll never be that again, but I'm hoping that WE can keep bbSes at the current level for the unforeseeable future.
Canuck shows are all amateur...
I don't think we're in the end - but more of the aftermath. I mean ba the bbS heyday, the activity and userspace of bbSes was HUGE..
I had heard there's still a big BBS (mainly underground) scene in China due to their information censorship. I've been curious to see if I can try using some of them, but I imagine most of them are probably in Chinese, which I don't read..
Yea, so - I also know the Taiwanese PTT/PTT2(etc) bbSes are still r0cking strong. They used to have hundreds of thousands of users, even dwarfing what was our bbS 'normal' back in the heyday...
take to login and see their bbSes... w/ PTT, I think you'd need a
get a local bbS user to help. :P
Do you have to pay anything for TV guide data farther out than 24
hours? I have never heard of Tablo, thanks for sharing the info.
Canuck shows are all amateur...
That my friend is a bit harsh...
get a local bbS user to help. :P
You keep saying bbS .. Why bbS and not BBS? Normally it's all capitalized..
It might as well have been produced by the AV club of a high school in Ottawa.
It's kind of true. You can just tell when it's a Canadian show based on the quality of production. A lot of US movies & TV shows are filmed
in Canada due to the tax breaks (a lot of Gotham was filmed in my
city), and those look awesome. A Canadian show filmed in the same
city just isn't the same.
Gamgee wrote to Bex <=-
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years
max before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
That's what was being said about FidoNet back around 1998-ish...
Blue White wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to Bex <=-
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years
max before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
That's what was being said about FidoNet back around 1998-ish...
And, IIRC, BBSing in general. Yet, here we are. :)
Bex wrote to paulie420 <=-
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years max
before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
paulie420 wrote to Bex <=-
I know that for as long as I have internet and a homelab, I'll be
running 2o - thats the commitment that I'm giving to the 'bbS world'...
I think with US, THIS is the new 'bbSphere'. :P
Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-
I had heard there's still a big BBS (mainly underground) scene in China due to their information censorship. I've been curious to see if I can try using some of them, but I imagine most of them are probably in Chinese, which I don't read..
I had heard there's still a big BBS (mainly underground) scene in
China due to their information censorship. I've been curious to see
if I can try using some of them, but I imagine most of them are
probably in Chinese, which I don't read..
China doesn't have a lot of copper lines, so analog modems would have a problem. BBS networks with analog modems passing data posed a monitoring challenge that made them ideal for information passing. With a population with cell phones I'm not sure how you'd do it.
BBSing is notoriously insecure, with passwords and data sent in cleartext by default. There's some options to run bink with TLS and others have created mesh VPNs between nodes, but there's a long way to make it easy.
Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-
I had heard there's still a big BBS (mainly underground) scene in China due to their information censorship. I've been curious to see if I can try using some of them, but I imagine most of them are probably in Chinese, which I don't read..
China doesn't have a lot of copper lines, so analog modems would have a problem. BBS networks with analog modems passing data posed a monitoring challenge that made them ideal for information passing. With a population with cell phones I'm not sure how you'd do it.
BBSing is notoriously insecure, with passwords and data sent in cleartext by default. There's some options to run bink with TLS and others have created mesh VPNs between nodes, but there's a long way to make it easy.
... Don't avoid what is easy
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years max before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
Every once in a while we get an influx of kidz who read about retro networks and chime in, but I don't think any of them have hung around.
I know that for as long as I have internet and a homelab, I'll be running 2o - thats the commitment that I'm giving to the 'bbS world'. I think with US, THIS is the new 'bbSphere'. :P
I think momentum is a big part of continuing to run a BBS. If mine
crashed hard and took some effort to get back up it might give me
pause. With a homelab as a hobby and work tool the BBS gets a free ride and doesn't require a lot on its own for upkeep.
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I almost feel like I'm cheating, but 2o22 makes it easy. 2o runs on a ProxMox server - and a separate PBS backup system makes it so even with
a full failure I can just jump back to a working system with ease. YES,
if I lost everything like one might back in the day I'd really have to think about putting all that effort back in - but I can handle a
ProxMox backup.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Bex <=-
This BBS renaissance is great, but it probably only has 5 years max
before all but the most devoted move on to something else.
Every once in a while we get an influx of kidz who read about retro networks and chime in, but I don't think any of them have hung around.
You just made me think of a really good analogy: we are a
roadside attraction, [...]
But it isn't going to happen, and our little town will just
keep turning into a ghost town.
Ogg said to Bex: <=-
That'a ALMOST a really good analogy. These people will still want to
spend their dollars with modern PayPass, ApplePay, GooglePay. Or use
the devices of THEIR choice to take
pictures, pay, research, etc.
So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since
1995, how has the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been?
So my question is, since I havnt been around BBS's since
1995, how has the BBS world been? Is this the most "dead" its been?
First of all, welcome back to the BBS world!
Well, actually, I got no idea about how the BBSes worked in the early
90s as I'm relatively new into this, I discovered BBSes at the start of this year and I'm still browsing through these to find old and new
relics.
I actually think there are some active ones with a nice community and
some active local boards aswell (actually, local boards are an advantage to not overlook) and, despite the fact that actually I wish there's a
bit more people interacting, I like it more here than on a modern social media, where it seems like the algorithm want you to see only drama and gossip rather than new art or whatever you wish to see.
Plus, the fact that BBSes doesn't require new technology makes it
possible to even use old computers such as the AMIGA 500 to call the boards and interact!
Anyway, I know there are lots of returning old users, but there's also hope since I'm not one of them, I just found out the boards and I'm enjoying them!
... Jenkinson's Law: It won't work.
Using BBS's has never been better. No tying up the phone
line. Fast, FAST speeds. Being able to multitask while
you BBS (I generally don't), fast transfer speeds, being
able to access any BBS in the world without running up a
high phone bill. Just a shame that the quantity of users
and boards isn't what it used to be.
Using BBS's has never been better. No tying up the phone line. Fast, FAST speeds. Being able to multitask while you BBS (I generally don't), fast transfer speeds, being able to access any BBS in the world without running up a high phone bill. Just a shame that the quantity of users and boards isn't what it used to be.
Sysops don't think outside the box, literally.
Back in the day.. we had Boardwatch magazine that did the work
for bbs promotion.
Nightfox wrote to Ogg <=-
Wasn't Boardwatch a national magazine though? I don't remember how BBS listings were organized in it though.. There was a local computer magazine in my area that had BBS listings in the back, and I often
In the San Francisco Bay area, we had MicroTimes and Computer Currents, two free magazines you'd find at local newsracks. They had free BBS listings, as long as you renewed them every couple of weeks.
They were also handy for the white-box computer store ads - there was fierce competition for PC sales back then.
Using BBS's has never been better. No tying up the phone
line. Fast, FAST speeds. Being able to multitask while
you BBS (I generally don't), fast transfer speeds, being
able to access any BBS in the world without running up a
high phone bill. Just a shame that the quantity of users
and boards isn't what it used to be.
Sysops don't think outside the box, literally.
Back in the day.. we had Boardwatch magazine that did the work
for bbs promotion.
Advertising within the medium that you want to attract people
too (eg. BBS AD echos) is not going to reach people outside the
realm.
Telnet BBS Guide is a fine tool, but it does nothing to
convince people WHY they ought to try a BBS.
Using BBS's has never been better. No tying up the phone line. Fast, speeds. Being able to multitask while you BBS (I generally don't), fa transfer speeds, being able to access any BBS in the world without ru up a high phone bill. Just a shame that the quantity of users and boa isn't what it used to be.
What you're describing is more like broadband internet which came after BBSes.. One reason why BBSes generally have tended to use a text-based (ANSI) interface is due to the fact that they were typically dialup systems.
I agree it's nice to use BBSes these days though. And being able to connect to any BBS in the world is good - though in the dialup days, I think one cool thing about BBSes is that since they tended to be local, pretty much all the users were in the same area, so there was a sense of local community there. Some BBSes had meetups too, but that's not easy
if most of the users are spread out across the world.
Nightfox
Back in the day.. we had Boardwatch magazine that did the work for
bbs promotion.
Advertising within the medium that you want to attract people too
(eg. BBS AD echos) is not going to reach people outside the realm.
Advertising within the medium that you want to attract people too
(eg. BBS AD echos) is not going to reach people outside the realm.
I had an ad up on Kijiji (kind of like a Canadian Craigslist) for my board once-upon-a-time. I got at least one new user out of it, it also helps
you reach people in your own area.
Nightfox wrote to Ogg <=-
Wasn't Boardwatch a national magazine though? I don't remember how BBS listings were organized in it though.
There was a local computer
magazine in my area that had BBS listings in the back, and I often
learned about local BBSes from there.
There was also a local BBS list
as a text file that was shared among local BBSes in my area.
In the San Francisco Bay area, we had MicroTimes and Computer Current two free magazines you'd find at local newsracks. They had free BBS
The computer magazine in the Portland area was similar. It was called Computer Bits, and was found at many local newsracks. I'd often get one
In the San Francisco Bay area, we had MicroTimes and Computer
Current two free magazines you'd find at local newsracks. They
had free BBS
The computer magazine in the Portland area was similar. It was
called Computer Bits, and was found at many local newsracks. I'd
often get one
What's a "local newsrack"? You mean like they have in New York City? I
I had an ad up on Kijiji (kind of like a Canadian Craigslist) for my board once-upon-a-time. I got at least one new user out of it, it also helps
you reach people in your own area.
How's your latest attempt with the postings in mastodon working
out?
Ogg said to Bex: <=-
That'a ALMOST a really good analogy. These people will still want to
spend their dollars with modern PayPass, ApplePay, GooglePay. Or use
the devices of THEIR choice to take
pictures, pay, research, etc.
Ummm... you kinda lost me there. Can you un-confuse me?
HusTler wrote to Nightfox <=-
What's a "local newsrack"? You mean like they have in New York City?
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