When Avon gets back or reviews messages, we might have issues in the long run. Let us be mindful if we can.

I know an activity boost may be good, but we should not be chasing people of either side out of the network due to this.

Even when I made a reply I self-censored myself because I knew I would have caused a huge uproar. However on other networks you could read that commentary.

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Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

When Avon gets back or reviews messages, we might have issues in the
long run. Let us be mindful if we can.

I know an activity boost may be good, but we should not be chasing
people of either side out of the network due to this.

Even when I made a reply I self-censored myself because I knew I would have caused a huge uproar. However on other networks you could read
that commentary.

Yeah, this morning was the first time I thought about skipping past
FSX_GEN. It'll be nice to get back to the original intent of this
network.



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On Tuesday, June 9th Utopian Galt muttered...

When Avon gets back or reviews messages, we might have issues in the long run. Let us be mindful if we can.
I know an activity boost may be good, but we should not be chasing people of either side out of the network due to this.

I apologize to those "caught in the middle" of these converations. I cannot, and will not, however, stand by and let people just post their hateful messaging without any response. That might make me the bad guy here, but I'm OK with that.

Again, apologies to those here seeing all this garbage.

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Re: Re: Caution is in order
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Wed Jun 10 2026 06:58 am

Yeah, this morning was the first time I thought about skipping past FSX_GEN. It'll be nice to get back to the original intent of this network.

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip it.

Nightfox

Twas Wednesday, June 10th when Nightfox said...

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip it.

Probably not a bad idea. Though I'd still worry about these racist and related posts under the umbrella of "political".


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On 10 Jun 26 11:41:53, Nuskooler said the following to Nightfox:

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip i

Probably not a bad idea. Though I'd still worry about these racist and relat posts under the umbrella of "political".

Sounds like you worry alot... Does your BBS software not have a "Next" key, or maybe you could just not Areafix echoes that get your blood pressure boiling?

Atreyu

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Sounds like you worry alot... Does your BBS software not have a "Next" key,

HAHAHHAH

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On 10 Jun 26 10:04:58, Nightfox said the following to Poindexter Fortran:

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and politica discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on

Maybe...

The anti-politics ruling "here" was simply a result of one leftist anti-American Sysop having an effeminate meltdown over a case of being able to dish it out but couldn't take it in return. He whined to Avon about it, Avon unfortunately took the "Aww shucks" approach (instead of the "Grow a pair" approach). The ruling was made but the crybaby vanished months later...

Atreyu

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Atreyu around Wednesday, June 10th...

Sounds like you worry alot... Does your BBS software not have a "Next" key, or maybe you could just not Areafix echoes that get your blood pressure boiling?

Really pulling hard at straws, are we?

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On Wednesday, June 10th Exodus said...

Sounds like you worry alot... Does your BBS software not have a "Next"

key,
HAHAHHAH

Hell yeah, zinger!

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I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip it.

I think that's what Othernets are for. If people want to say, "I'd like to continue this conversation, so I'll respond in x place on Fidonet", or advertise one of the many other nets, that's probably a net positive for the health of other networks.

I know people mention other nets often, so hopefully people can chime in with which places have good political discussions.

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On 10 Jun 26 14:33:55, Nuskooler said the following to Atreyu:

Sounds like you worry alot... Does your BBS software not have a "Next" key, or maybe you could just not Areafix echoes that get your blood pressure boiling?

Really pulling hard at straws, are we?

For each one presenting itself, you seem compelled to give a tug-job... guess this month isn't so bad for you after all.

Atreyu

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Atreyu wrote to Nightfox <=-

On 10 Jun 26 10:04:58, Nightfox said the following to Poindexter
Fortran:

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and

politica

discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go

on

Maybe...

The anti-politics ruling "here" was simply a result of one leftist anti-American Sysop having an effeminate meltdown over a case of being able to dish it out but couldn't take it in return. He whined to Avon about it, Avon unfortunately took the "Aww shucks" approach (instead of the "Grow a pair" approach). The ruling was made but the crybaby
vanished months later...

There have been plenty of leftist crybabies show up to replace him, and
even the American ones are anti-American.



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On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 06:58:11 -0700
"poindexter FORTRAN" (21:4/122)
<poindexter.FORTRAN@f122.n4.z21.fidonet> wrote:

Yeah, this morning was the first time I thought about skipping past
FSX_GEN. It'll be nice to get back to the original intent of this
network.

I never read it, which is a bit of a contradiction considering I'm
replying to this post.
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On Tue, 9 Jun 2026 20:19:18 -0700
"Utopian Galt" (21:2/150) <Utopian.Galt@f150.n2.z21.fidonet> wrote:

When Avon gets back or reviews messages, we might have issues in the
long run. Let us be mindful if we can.

I know an activity boost may be good, but we should not be chasing
people of either side out of the network due to this.

Even when I made a reply I self-censored myself because I knew I
would have caused a huge uproar. However on other networks you could
read that commentary.

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Who got butt hurt this time?
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Who got butt hurt this time?

hahah

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Re: Re: Caution is in order
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Wed Jun 10 2026 06:58 am

Yeah, this morning was the first time I thought about skipping past FSX_GEN. It'll be nice to get back to the original intent of this network.

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip it.

They could all just move over to other echoes on other networks already meant for such purposes and which have looser rules... DOVE Debate, FIDO Politics, etc... and stop doing it here entirely.

I *strongly* suspect the reason that they never do is because they like to run and hide behind the FSX "but politics isn't allowed" rule once they've started an obviously political-adjacent conversation that doesn't go their way, and speech is too free in those forums for their tastes.

My evidence is that it has been suggested multiple times in the past but they never ever wind up moving the trouble they started elsewhere. They *always* start it *here*.


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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I wonder if there should be a new echo where rules are loosened and political discussions are allowed. Then any such discussions and flame wars can go on there, and those who aren't interested can easily skip
it.

It does seem to work - Fido has their political echo, and the people who
want to make a stink mostly stick there.

Be prepared for the "HELP IM BEING CENSORED!!!!!" crowd when asked to
post elsewhere.



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On Wednesday, June 10th Gamgee was heard saying...

There have been plenty of leftist crybabies show up to replace him, and even the American ones are anti-American.

I think you mispelled "People who do not agree with my biggotry".


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Re: Re: Caution is in order
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Jun 11 2026 07:45 am

It does seem to work - Fido has their political echo, and the people who want to make a stink mostly stick there.

Even in other echos, I feel like people on FidoNet tend to be argumentative a lot - but it might depend on the echo. It got the nickname "Fight-O-Net" for a reason..

Nightfox