• Magichat Server

    From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to All on Wed Mar 31 02:32:57 2021
    Hi Guys,

    Testing a MagiChat server, it's running on one of my VPS's so it's got a
    fast connection and in a datacentre.

    Please test and report back.

    Address: ftn.vk3heg.net
    Port: 18920





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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to vorlon on Tue Mar 30 10:18:03 2021
    Please test and report back.

    Address: ftn.vk3heg.net
    Port: 18920

    Hey vorlorn! I connected finr, but I get this error message at the top of
    the screen in MagiChat:

    |04There was an SSL error connecting, see /cert for details

    |08Note, i got the same error when I tried setting up my own server. I
    tried using both new;y created certs/pem files, and also copied over the
    ones that my web sewrver are using. Still got the error.

    Wonder if Apam has any advice?



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  • From HSM@21:2/162 to Alpha on Tue Mar 30 14:58:53 2021
    On 30 Mar 2021, Alpha said the following...

    Please test and report back.

    Address: ftn.vk3heg.net
    Port: 18920

    Hey vorlorn! I connected finr, but I get this error message at the top of the screen in MagiChat:

    There was an SSL error connecting, see /cert for details


    I was able to connect locally, also got the cert error.

    I can't make it run as a door in Mystic.

    (D3) Exec DOOR32 Program
    Data: MagiChatDoor.exe -D %Pdoor32.sys

    Am I missing something?

    |01 ├|06HSM|01─|14aka|01─|07Ga|08ry|01───────────────┐
    |14 ┐|01│ Mystic|14.|01BBSGameTime|14.|01com|14:|0323|01 │|14┌
    │|01│ ScoobysDoo|14.|01ddns|14.|01net|14:|032023|01 │|14│
    │|01└───────────────────────────┘|14│

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to HSM on Wed Mar 31 08:24:19 2021
    I can't make it run as a door in Mystic.

    Make sure you run it from the directory with the ini file in it.

    you may need to make a batch file to change directory first.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Alpha on Wed Mar 31 08:29:06 2021
    ones that my web sewrver are using. Still got the error.

    Wonder if Apam has any advice?

    Not sure what's going on there. Looks like it needs to be updated

    /v gives version and certificate info not /cert

    also those help files are way out dated. I'll see if I can find the
    latest ones and update the git repo.

    Andrew

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Alpha on Wed Mar 31 09:40:08 2021
    Hi Alpha,

    Please test and report back.

    Address: ftn.vk3heg.net
    Port: 18920

    Hey vorlorn! I connected finr, but I get this error message at the
    top of the screen in MagiChat:

    |04There was an SSL error connecting, see /cert for details

    |08Note, i got the same error when I tried setting up my own
    server. I tried using both new;y created certs/pem files, and also
    copied over the ones that my web sewrver are using. Still got the
    error.

    Wonder if Apam has any advice?

    I get the same thing. My cert is a letencrypt cert created just for this testing. It was a run and see exercise just to get it going.




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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to apam on Wed Mar 31 09:44:07 2021
    Hi Apam,

    ones that my web sewrver are using. Still got the error.

    Wonder if Apam has any advice?

    Not sure what's going on there. Looks like it needs to be updated

    /v gives version and certificate info not /cert

    also those help files are way out dated. I'll see if I can find the
    latest ones and update the git repo.

    /v gives me:

    Cert Subject: /CN=ftn.vk3heg.net
    Cert Issuer: /C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3
    Cert Status: unable to get local issuer certificate


    Btw: I searched last nignt but came up empty. So will ask here.

    Will MagicChatDoor work with Magicka and how do I configure the bbs?




    \/orlon
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  • From HSM@21:2/162 to apam on Tue Mar 30 18:56:33 2021
    On 31 Mar 2021, apam said the following...

    I can't make it run as a door in Mystic.

    Make sure you run it from the directory with the ini file in it.

    you may need to make a batch file to change directory first.


    Thanks, one .bat later and it works fine!

    |01 ├|06HSM|01─|14aka|01─|07Ga|08ry|01───────────────┐
    |14 ┐|01│ Mystic|14.|01BBSGameTime|14.|01com|14:|0323|01 │|14┌
    │|01│ ScoobysDoo|14.|01ddns|14.|01net|14:|032023|01 │|14│
    │|01└───────────────────────────┘|14│

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to apam on Tue Mar 30 18:16:25 2021
    Not sure what's going on there. Looks like it needs to be updated

    OK, working now!

    Server = thedrunkengamer.com
    Port = 18920



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  • From apam@21:1/182 to vorlon on Wed Mar 31 11:27:02 2021
    Cert Status: unable to get local issuer certificate

    Are you using the fullchain.pem or cert.pem?

    I think from memory I had to use fullchain.pem as the cert.

    Will MagicChatDoor work with Magicka and how do I configure the bbs?

    The door will work with Magicka, the built in magichat doesn't have SSL support, so you will need to use the door.

    It's just the same as any other door in Magicka, make a shell script and
    have it change to the magichat directory and then run with:

    ./MagichatDoor -D /path/to/door.sys

    You will need to modify the ini file as well. Oh and set it to use STDIO
    mode.

    Andrew

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to apam on Wed Mar 31 13:59:09 2021
    Cert Status: unable to get local issuer certificate

    Are you using the fullchain.pem or cert.pem?

    I think from memory I had to use fullchain.pem as the cert.

    I have the folling files in the magichat server dir:

    cert.pem
    chain.pem
    fullchain.pem
    key.pem

    other wise the magichat server complains and wont start...

    Could you add the feature of being able to link server's, so that there's
    not just a heap of standalone servers?


    Will MagicChatDoor work with Magicka and how do I configure the
    bbs?

    It's just the same as any other door in Magicka, make a shell
    script and have it change to the magichat directory and then run
    with:

    ./MagichatDoor -D /path/to/door.sys

    You will need to modify the ini file as well. Oh and set it to use
    STDIO mode.

    As you've taken down the Magicka documentation, I have nothing to
    referance! Will give it a try tomorrow.





    \/orlon
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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to vorlon on Tue Mar 30 21:05:03 2021
    Could you add the feature of being able to link server's, so that
    there's
    not just a heap of standalone servers?

    I've got mine working w/SSL (letsencrypt), but happy to defer to someone
    else's server as well. It's on digital a digital ocean VPS:

    Server = thedrunkengamer.com
    Port = 18920

    Feel free to connect (anyone)!




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    |08A Talisman BBS


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  • From apam@21:1/182 to vorlon on Wed Mar 31 14:08:31 2021
    I have the folling files in the magichat server dir:
    cert.pem
    chain.pem
    fullchain.pem
    key.pem

    You might need to rename the fullchain.pem to cert.pem you can remove chain.pem. It only uses cert.pem and key.pem. I think the fullchain.pem
    is cert.pem and chain.pem combined.

    As you've taken down the Magicka documentation, I have nothing to
    referance! Will give it a try tomorrow.

    The documentation is here:

    https://gitlab.com/magickabbs/magickabbs-documentation

    Andrew
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  • From Tiny@21:1/130 to Alpha on Wed Mar 31 08:08:04 2021
    Alpha wrote to vorlon <=-

    I've got mine working w/SSL (letsencrypt), but happy to defer to
    someone else's server as well. It's on digital a digital ocean VPS:
    Server = thedrunkengamer.com
    Port = 18920

    I'll configure this at some point. ;) I disabled it on the BBS when
    apam took his down, but won't take long to throw it back online.

    Shawn

    ... Honk if you love peace and quiet!

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Alpha on Wed Mar 31 19:51:00 2021
    On 03-30-21 21:05, Alpha wrote to vorlon <=-

    Could you add the feature of being able to link server's, so that
    there's
    not just a heap of standalone servers?

    I've got mine working w/SSL (letsencrypt), but happy to defer to
    someone else's server as well. It's on digital a digital ocean VPS:

    Server = thedrunkengamer.com
    Port = 18920

    Feel free to connect (anyone)!

    Seems I don't need to setup a server, I was going to set mine up on a VPS as well, and I already have the SSL certs.


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  • From HSM@21:2/162 to Alpha on Wed Mar 31 14:10:44 2021
    I've got mine working w/SSL (letsencrypt), but happy to defer to someone else's server as well. It's on digital a digital ocean VPS:

    Server = thedrunkengamer.com
    Port = 18920

    Feel free to connect (anyone)!

    Connected!

    |01 ├|06HSM|01─|14aka|01─|07Ga|08ry|01───────────────┐
    |14 ┐|01│ Mystic|14.|01BBSGameTime|14.|01com|14:|0323|01 │|14┌
    │|01│ ScoobysDoo|14.|01ddns|14.|01net|14:|032023|01 │|14│
    │|01└───────────────────────────┘|14│

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to apam on Tue Apr 6 12:30:29 2021
    Hi apam,

    I have the folling files in the magichat server dir:
    cert.pem
    chain.pem
    fullchain.pem
    key.pem

    You might need to rename the fullchain.pem to cert.pem you can
    remove chain.pem. It only uses cert.pem and key.pem. I think the fullchain.pem is cert.pem and chain.pem combined.

    That's what I had to do to get it going, and there are nolonger any cert errors.

    As you've taken down the Magicka documentation, I have nothing
    to referance! Will give it a try tomorrow.

    The documentation is here:

    https://gitlab.com/magickabbs/magickabbs-documentation

    Thanks. I now have the door working from the bbs, but it's a bit dead
    with no one else connected. #-(

    \/orlon



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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Alpha on Tue Apr 6 12:32:28 2021
    Hi Alpha,

    Could you add the feature of being able to link server's, so
    that there's not just a heap of standalone servers?

    I've got mine working w/SSL (letsencrypt), but happy to defer to
    someone else's server as well. It's on digital a digital ocean VPS:


    See my previous message to apam. Mines now working, but it's pretty dead
    with only myself connecting.... Linking mutiple servsers together would
    make it better. Mines located in Australia. #-)

    \/orlon



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to vorlon on Tue Apr 6 14:52:04 2021
    On 06 Apr 2021 at 12:32p, vorlon pondered and said...

    See my previous message to apam. Mines now working, but it's pretty dead with only myself connecting.... Linking mutiple servsers together would make it better. Mines located in Australia. #-)

    I'd like to spin one up as well. Spent last night playing with the
    client/door again and can recall the feedback I was passing to Andrew at the time.

    Sorting the cert for the magichat server I'd like to look at running for fsxnet.nz is something I'm not so sure how to tackle as my webhost has one already for the website etc. I'm not sure if I can raise something specific
    for a subdomain and have that sat on my own computer or not.

    The joys of learning by doing.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to vorlon on Tue Apr 6 03:05:07 2021

    Could you add the feature of being able to link server's, so
    that there's not just a heap of standalone servers?

    I'm not the author of the software, that'd be Apam. But...

    I think all that's needed is a single, reliable server instance we can all connect to, and it doesn't have to be mine!

    I think more importantly, who is going to advocate for/advertise usage? Get people to join at a certain time. That takes some elbow grease :)

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Alpha on Tue Apr 6 17:45:05 2021
    I think all that's needed is a single, reliable server instance we can
    all connect to, and it doesn't have to be mine!

    Yeah, I don't really want to add relaying, if all it gets is a bunch of
    unused servers talking to each other.

    I think more importantly, who is going to advocate for/advertise
    usage? Get people to join at a certain time. That takes some elbow
    grease :)

    Yeah, someone needs to be motivated to actually turn up each week even if
    it means idling by themselves for an hour or so - because if people do
    turn up and no one is there, they will leave. I noticed on my server when
    I was running it, plenty of people connected, just not at the same time.

    I'm not all that motivated to be honest. I'm happy to chat etc, but given timezones, it can be a pain to get there every week at a time that suits
    most.

    I don't really see this happening, I'd love to be wrong, but I think most
    who have a BBS will pick one or the other and 99% of the time they will
    pick MRC, because it's established. This strangely opposite to echo nets,
    where everyone wants ALL the nets no matter how dead they are lol.

    Andrew

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to apam on Sun Apr 11 04:56:49 2021
    pick MRC, because it's established. This strangely opposite to echo nets, where everyone wants ALL the nets no matter how dead they are lol.

    This reminds me that I was looking at my main menu, and thinking about how I could probably get rid of a couple more of the features, or at least hide
    them.

    But making something better by subtraction is not an easy concept, a lot of
    the time.

    (Also, I only run FSXnet and Fidonet, at this point. That seems like enough. And I'd probably cut Fidonet if it weren't for the nostalgia aspects of a network that's stuck in the 80s.)

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