• Ubuntu/Mint

    From metalhead@21:1/113 to All on Wed Jan 22 15:18:40 2020
    Hey everyone,

    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    I know that other people have been asking about this, and I tried following
    the Google groups advice posted by Stephen Perry, but that post is a little
    old and it didn't work out too well.

    Is there a more fresh rundown of all the steps somewhere else? I checked Fido but it looked dry on the topic.

    My main focus is just to get it to run so I can play around with it offline.
    I have my old Compufuck BBS on a Windows pc, but I'm hoping to ditch that machine.

    Alternatively, would it be a lot easier for me to use some emulator and continue using Mystic for Windows? Because I tried that too but failed. Are there any known instructions on that somewhere?

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  • From maskreet@21:1/114 to metalhead on Wed Jan 22 18:19:03 2020
    On 22 Jan 2020, metalhead said the following...

    Hey everyone,

    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    I think I'm going to put a how-to on my site to do this, since I offer up
    help piecemeal whenever someone asks how to do this. =)

    Okay, done. Go to throwbackbbs.com and in the top navbar, look for
    "How-To's", it's the first drop down item. You're welcome! If you don't see
    it, you might need to force-refresh the page with CTRL-F5.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to metalhead on Wed Jan 22 16:44:16 2020
    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    What are you struggling with?

    Are you a linux newbie who struggles with something?

    I know that other people have been asking about this, and I tried following the Google groups advice posted by Stephen Perry, but that post is a little old and it didn't work out too well.

    Mystic is pretty easy to setup and run on windows or linux.

    Is there a more fresh rundown of all the steps somewhere else? I checked Fido but it looked dry on the topic.

    If you post any questions there (or here) you'll likely get some good info.

    My main focus is just to get it to run so I can play around with it offline. I have my old Compufuck BBS on a Windows pc, but I'm hoping to ditch that machine.

    I remember Compufuck BBS although I haven't seen it lately.

    Alternatively, would it be a lot easier for me to use some emulator and continue using Mystic for Windows? Because I tried that too but failed. Are there any known instructions on that somewhere?

    Almost certainly not. An emulator usually adds more stuff you need to work out.
    Just stick to your OS of choice and you'll be OK.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to metalhead on Thu Jan 23 11:54:00 2020
    On 01-22-20 15:18, metalhead wrote to All <=-

    Hey everyone,

    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    I know that other people have been asking about this, and I tried following the Google groups advice posted by Stephen Perry, but that
    post is a little old and it didn't work out too well.

    What's the issue you're having? A bit more information would help with troubleshooting.


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to metalhead on Wed Jan 22 18:23:40 2020
    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    I hate to sound flippant, but without knowing the exact problems you're
    running into, there's no way to give advice here. I've installed mystic countless times on countless linux distros with no issues.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to metalhead on Wed Jan 22 21:20:00 2020
    metalhead wrote to All <=-

    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    Is there a more fresh rundown of all the steps somewhere else? I
    checked Fido but it looked dry on the topic.

    http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php

    Alternatively, would it be a lot easier for me to use some
    emulator and continue using Mystic for Windows?

    That would just add another layer of difficulty.

    Read the installation instructions on the Wiki referenced above.



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  • From Expirobo@21:2/123 to metalhead on Wed Jan 22 22:03:55 2020
    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    Step 1. Download mystic from http://www.mysticbbs.com/downloads.html
    -Linux 64 bit
    Step 2. unrar e XXXX.rar into a directory somewhere
    Step 3. ./install
    Step 4. All paths in the installer are from / (top of filesystem). So /mystic
    will be the outside of your user directory. For newbies, I suggest to
    install to /home/<username>/mystic
    Step 5. cd /home/<username>/mystic
    Step 6. ./mystic -cfg
    Step 7. Profit!

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Expirobo on Thu Jan 23 21:18:00 2020
    On 01-22-20 22:03, Expirobo wrote to metalhead <=-

    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    Step 1. Download mystic from http://www.mysticbbs.com/downloads.html
    -Linux 64 bit
    Step 2. unrar e XXXX.rar into a directory somewhere
    Step 3. ./install
    Step 4. All paths in the installer are from / (top of filesystem). So /mystic
    will be the outside of your user directory. For newbies, I
    suggest to
    install to /home/<username>/mystic
    Step 5. cd /home/<username>/mystic
    Step 6. ./mystic -cfg
    Step 7. Profit!

    I have a machine running 64 bit Mint (with Cinnamon). I could do a test install on it, if need be, just to prove it works, but not until next week.


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  • From hdt@21:1/205 to ryan on Thu Jan 23 15:19:14 2020
    Hi Ryan,


    I want to install Mystic on Mint 64 Bit, but I'm struggling.

    I hate to sound flippant, but without knowing the exact problems you're running into, there's no way to give advice here. I've installed mystic countless times on countless linux distros with no issues.

    I tried a few days ago to install and run Mystic on Ubuntu 18.04.3 got installed able to move the data files from Windoze to Linux and update file paths only issue I have is setting local doors. There are a few how-to pages but they lost me after a installing DOSEMU.

    I heard that DOSBOX doesn't handle multi-node very well.

    Cheers,

    hdt

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to hdt on Thu Jan 23 03:40:42 2020
    I heard that DOSBOX doesn't handle multi-node very well.

    No, it doesn't, but dosemu does. Another option these days is QEMU but it's not
    well known and tested. QEMU can run on a Pi.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to hdt on Thu Jan 23 06:10:42 2020
    I heard that DOSBOX doesn't handle multi-node very well.

    I'm frankly having zero luck getting it to work right now :/

    Dosemu, on the other hand, shouldn't be /too/ tough. Where are you getting
    hung up?

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  • From metalhead@21:1/113 to Al on Thu Jan 23 09:29:04 2020
    Almost certainly not. An emulator usually adds more stuff you need to
    work out. Just stick to your OS of choice and you'll be OK.

    Thanks everyone!

    I'll stick with your advice & I'll be back with specific questions if this doesn't go smooth with the advice on Throwback BBS.

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  • From metalhead@21:1/113 to Expirobo on Thu Jan 23 09:45:52 2020
    Thanks everybody for your help with this.

    I first tried the instructions on Throwback BBS, but I got stuck because I didn't do this:

    suggest to install to /home/<username>/mystic

    (I'm a linux newb!)

    So then I resorted back here to Expirobo's message, made that change to the install-to folder, and all set now.

    Those old instructions on the Google groups page were what were doing me in
    on my first try. They are clunky! :)

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  • From Analog@21:2/123 to Al on Thu Jan 23 08:13:28 2020
    No, it doesn't, but dosemu does. Another option these days is QEMU but it's not well known and tested. QEMU can run on a Pi.

    I have QEMU running MSDOS with TW2002 fully multinoded using a share drive
    for files. Avon and I are working logistics on where to put the write up.
    It's not for the faint of heart but it is solid and works like a charm after you get it going. Stand by for this in the near future. I plan on including a vanilla MSDOS 6.22 packed with XFS/Nic Drivers/Doskey/Power ready to install any bbs door game that needs DPMI.

    Dosemu on the other hand is perfect for everything else. It can use LREDIR to mount directories as network'esque drives so that multiple instances can
    share files from the same folder.


    Cheers,

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  • From Analog@21:2/123 to metalhead on Thu Jan 23 08:16:30 2020
    So then I resorted back here to Expirobo's message, made that change to the install-to folder, and all set now.

    Expirobo is AKA Analog. That was my tester account and I forgot I was logged
    in under that when I replied. Hit me up with any questions on here or hit my board up if you need anything directly.

    Cheers,

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to metalhead on Thu Jan 23 09:49:00 2020
    metalhead wrote to Expirobo <=-

    Thanks everybody for your help with this.

    I first tried the instructions on Throwback BBS, but I got stuck
    because I didn't do this:

    suggest to install to /home/<username>/mystic

    (I'm a linux newb!)

    So then I resorted back here to Expirobo's message, made that
    change to the install-to folder, and all set now.

    Those old instructions on the Google groups page were what were
    doing me in on my first try. They are clunky! :)

    Again...

    http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Analog on Thu Jan 23 09:51:00 2020
    Analog wrote to Al <=-

    No, it doesn't, but dosemu does. Another option these days is QEMU but it's not well known and tested. QEMU can run on a Pi.

    I have QEMU running MSDOS with TW2002 fully multinoded using a
    share drive for files. Avon and I are working logistics on where
    to put the write up. It's not for the faint of heart but it is
    solid and works like a charm after you get it going. Stand by for
    this in the near future. I plan on including a vanilla MSDOS 6.22
    packed with XFS/Nic Drivers/Doskey/Power ready to install any bbs
    door game that needs DPMI.

    Very interested in this. Please update when/where it's available,
    thanks!



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  • From Greg Youngblood@21:4/119.1 to hdt on Thu Jan 23 10:33:01 2020

    file paths only issue I have is setting local doors. There are a few how-to pages but they lost me after a installing DOSEMU.


    Hello HDT

    I felt the same as you after many days I was just shaking my head, laughing
    so one day after taking a nap I came up with my own settings from two of
    those other pages your talking about. apam being one of those. (Thanks apam)

    Anyway I have it on my board for download in area 17 if I'm right. No lord.whatever, no lord.conf so on and so on. one bat file, one sh file and
    one dosemu.conf.

    Very easy setup!

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  • From hdt@21:1/205 to Al on Fri Jan 24 06:36:03 2020
    No, it doesn't, but dosemu does. Another option these days is QEMU but it's not well known and tested. QEMU can run on a Pi.

    thanks Al I got the guide for DOSEMU I'll give it a go on Ubuntu.

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  • From hdt@21:1/205 to ryan on Fri Jan 24 06:40:25 2020
    I'm frankly having zero luck getting it to work right now :/

    Dosemu, on the other hand, shouldn't be /too/ tough. Where are you
    getting hung up?

    I couldn't find a guide that was stright forward. I got the guide from https://magickabbs.com/docs/configuration/doors/dos/dosemu.txt
    I'll give it a go and change things to match my Mystic configuration.

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  • From hdt@21:1/205 to Greg Youngblood on Fri Jan 24 06:44:02 2020
    Anyway I have it on my board for download in area 17 if I'm right. No lord.whatever, no lord.conf so on and so on. one bat file, one sh file
    and one dosemu.conf.

    Very easy setup!

    Hi Greg,

    Thanks mate, I'll logon and grab the file from you.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/163 to ryan on Fri Jan 24 12:08:29 2020
    I heard that DOSBOX doesn't handle multi-node very well.

    I'm frankly having zero luck getting it to work right now :/

    I'm not too familiar with DOSBOX but can you get it to just use STDIO for its I/O? Mystic uses STDIO so that you can run any program on the console as a door.

    If it were to use sockets for example, a socket door wouldn't work with SSH
    and you'd have to code it with the intent of it being a BBS door that inherits a socket and does TCP/IP just to write a line of text to the screen.

    The way it works now you can make a door with a single line of code that works for everything ie: "printf("hello world");" would work. Mystic redirects the I/O and has a "watchdog" on the process for connection drops and stuff.

    I think you can pass it a socket too but I can't tell you the last time I
    tried to test something like that.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/163 to metalhead on Fri Jan 24 12:10:09 2020
    Those old instructions on the Google groups page were what were doing me in on my first try. They are clunky! :)

    Not everyone who writes how-tos are good at it, or it could be an awesome
    guide for installing a long time ago or any combination thereof!

    Installing mystic should be just about as easy as typing ./install if you point it to your home directory where you already have access to!

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to g00r00 on Fri Jan 24 23:04:05 2020
    I'm not too familiar with DOSBOX but can you get it to just use STDIO
    for its I/O? Mystic uses STDIO so that you can run any program on the console as a door.

    For some reason, the game darklands (the entire reason I'm messing with
    dosbox at this point) runs locally in its linux version, but when I run it
    that way as a door, it doesn't seem to function correctly. The text display
    is all garbled. I can run it from a CLI and it's fine but when running as a door command it looks messed up.

    If it were to use sockets for example, a socket door wouldn't work with SSH and you'd have to code it with the intent of it being a BBS door
    that inherits a socket and does TCP/IP just to write a line of text to
    the screen.

    Got it. Perhaps that's the issue. I don't actually have telnet wired up to
    the BBS right now, it gets blocked by my firewall, so I'm just using htmlterm and netrunner to connect securely.

    I think you can pass it a socket too but I can't tell you the last time I tried to test something like that.

    Yeah, I'm not super familiar with how sockets work frankly. I notice passing the socket with the argument %H or whatever it is in Mystic was passing a
    value of something like '10' to the door which may or may not be an actual socket. Beats me.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/163 to ryan on Sat Jan 25 11:11:20 2020
    For some reason, the game darklands (the entire reason I'm messing with dosbox at this point) runs locally in its linux version, but when I run
    it that way as a door, it doesn't seem to function correctly. The text display is all garbled. I can run it from a CLI and it's fine but when running as a door command it looks messed up.

    Interesting. Maybe I can get it and see if I can get it going too. Maybe something needs to be set with the terminal.

    Yeah, I'm not super familiar with how sockets work frankly. I notice passing the socket with the argument %H or whatever it is in Mystic was passing a value of something like '10' to the door which may or may not
    be an actual socket. Beats me.

    I would have to double check it. But if you're connected via SSH whatever tries to touch the socket will not be doing the encryption the SSH connection needs so its not going to work.

    STDIO is def the way to go if possible.

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