Mystic Sysop question... How do you organize your Netmail areas if you have multiple (4-5) networks? E.g. A "Netmail (NETWORK)" message area in every network message base? A Netmail Message Group that pulls each area into a consolidated group? Or, a single NETMAIL area/file for all, so they are
in a single location?

Probably preference-based, but just curious.

Alpha

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into a consolidated group? Or, a single NETMAIL area/file for all, so
they are in a single location?

I have a single Netmail area. It will auto detect the destination address and set the message to the appropriate server defined in your route.

Another thing I did was HIDE the netmail area from the message group list. I have a dedicated email/netmail menu that will set your group/base to the Netmail g/b when you check for messages or post a netmail. I lump
email/netmail as a seperate thing from echomail.

Just my preference.

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Probably preference-based, but just curious.

Correct. I have a unique netmail base per net. It just keeps things a bit cleaner IMO.

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I have a single Netmail area. It will auto detect the destination
address and set the message to the appropriate server defined in your route.

That's a good idea!

-Alpha

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Mystic Sysop question... How do you organize your Netmail areas if you have multiple (4-5) networks? E.g. A "Netmail (NETWORK)" message area in

I just use a single Netmail area, and I have it set to show up in all of my groups that are not my local message group.

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On 06 Feb 2020, Alpha said the following...

Mystic Sysop question... How do you organize your Netmail areas if you have multiple (4-5) networks? E.g. A "Netmail (NETWORK)" message area in every network message base? A Netmail Message Group that pulls each area into a consolidated group? Or, a single NETMAIL area/file for all, so
they are in a single location?

I include each netmail base in my group for each network AND also have a separate group that includes all netmail bases. When anyone goes to send a netmail message I chain commands. First I have them join the netmail group, then Change area and finally post the netmail.

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On 02-06-20 09:13, ryan wrote to Alpha <=-

Probably preference-based, but just curious.

Correct. I have a unique netmail base per net. It just keeps things a
bit cleaner IMO.

I tried that initially, but had issues. Switched to a single netmail base and no problems.


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Hi

I sent a message to garycrunk via netmail. I didn't get a reply, because
for some reason when you reply to my message on Another f-ing bbs, it
uses 21:4/100 as the reply address.

Looking at the kludges of my netmail they all look right, but why would
mystic prompt you for the return address and autofill it with something
other than the origin address?

I did notice, that my address is 21:1/126 and gary's is 21:4/126.. ie the
same node number (just different nets).

Also the net mail I sent was routed, so I guess technically it came from 21:4/100

Hmm.

Andrew


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Never mind. I figured it out. Mystic expects a MSGID kludge in netmail.

Andrew

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Re: Re: Netmail
By: apam to apam on Tue Aug 11 2020 05:34 am

Never mind. I figured it out. Mystic expects a MSGID kludge in netmail.

That's interesting, it seems mystic is using the @MSGID to address replies
in netmail?

I've reported the issue of netmail having the wrong from address before and I have seen others report it also. It only happens to netmail that was routed.

g00r00 has looked at it but hasn't yet figured out a better way to deal with this.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello All,

I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but I just get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello All,

I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody
send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but
I just get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Al,
I am a little confused. When I tried to send you a netmail and did a look
up of Equinox BBS, nothing showed up in the node list by that name. So I did
a search by node number 21:4/106 and the below information showed up. As you notice your message post tag line is showing something completely different.

In short, your tag is showing Equinox BBS at 21:4/106 , but in the node
browser no such BBS name exists.

Address: 21:4/106
System Name: The Rusty Mailbox BBS
Location: Penticton CAN
Operator: Alan Ianson
Phone: -Unpublished-
Internet: trmb.ca

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fsxNET: 21:1/203 fidoNET:1:135/383 - sciNET: 77:1/125 Titusville, FL. USA

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On 14 Oct 2020, Argos said the following...

I am a little confused. When I tried to send you a netmail and did a look up of Equinox BBS, nothing showed up in the node list by that name. So I did a search by node number 21:4/106 and the below information showed up. As you notice your message post tag line is showing something completely different.

My node is 21:4/106 and I have an MBSE BBS setup that handles that.

In short, your tag is showing Equinox BBS at 21:4/106 , but in the node browser no such BBS name exists.

Address: 21:4/106
System Name: The Rusty Mailbox BBS
Location: Penticton CAN
Operator: Alan Ianson
Phone: -Unpublished-
Internet: trmb.ca

Yep, that is my node. I am looking for a netmail to 21:4/106.2, that's the address of my Mystic BBS that I want to check on. It'll travel the net to my node (up above there) and then be directed from there to 21:4/106.2 so I'll be able to read it on my Mystic BBS. In a nutshell, my node feeds my point netmail, echomail and files, it's a different setup than my main node.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Netmail
By: Al to All on Wed Oct 14 2020 08:39 am

I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody send me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displays the from address and how it addresses a reply.

I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.

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On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

I've just been looking over my Mystic BBS after a time. Can somebody me a netmail? I wondering if anything has changed in the way it displ the from address and how it addresses a reply.

I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.

Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Netmail
By: Al to alterego on Wed Oct 14 2020 10:19 pm

I sent you one last night - hopefully you got it.

Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

2020-10-14 22:05:18 Created NetMail (1.msg) from Deon George (21:2/116) to Al (21:4/106.2), attr: 0181, subject: Netmail
2020-10-14 22:05:18 Packing NetMail (1.msg) from Deon George (21:2/116) to Al (21:4/106.2), attr: 0181, subject: Netmail
2020-10-14 22:05:18 Routing NetMail (1.msg) to 21:2/100
2020-10-14 22:05:18 SBBSecho (PID 26393) exiting with error level 0, NetMail(0 imported, 1 exported, 1 packed)

Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 21:2/100@fsxnet, file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut
Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/1.123 callout to 21:2/100@fsxnet started
Oct 14 22:05:20 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 21:2/100@fsxnet at error404bbs.ddns.net:24555
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Peer version: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Authentication successful: secure
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Sending file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut (0.7KB)
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Sent file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut (0.7KB)
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT We got an M_EOB, but there are still 1 files pending M_GOT
Oct 14 22:05:24 p-4-1 synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Deleted file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.015/00020064.cut

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On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

Your logs indicate it went to 21:2/100. Something has happened between here and there.. not exactly sure what..

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 15 Oct 2020, alterego said the following...

Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Hmm.. you should have got it by now - unless its in quaranteen? :)

I found it. It's bouncing back and forth between 21:4/106 and 21:4/106.2. It's up to 13K of via lines now. ;)

I'll have to see if I can figure out why that is happening.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 14 Oct 2020 at 10:19p, Al pondered and said...

Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Have also belatedly sent you a reply to a test netmail you sent me :)

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Nothing yet but thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

Have also belatedly sent you a reply to a test netmail you sent me :)

Still nothing here. I deleted one that never got tossed into the message base, it just kept going back and forth between 4/106 and 4/106.2. Looking at Mystic's log, Mystic seemed to think the message was to 1/186 and so sent it back to 4/104 and it would get sent back to 4/106.2 again.

I'll try to figure out what's up there.

I do send netmail back and forth between the two, areafix and filefix without issue so I'm not sure what going on.

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Hello Al,

I'm also wondering about the web server. I have it enabled currently but I jus >get an error 404, page not found error although I do have an index.html in the
webroot directory. Does anyone have that working?

The actual Mystic webroot here is /home/mystic/webroot/www/index.html

There should actually be a /www and a /cfg directory under /mystic with /www being the directory that Mystic serves your html files from. The /cfg directory as I understand it is for future use.

Jeff

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Hello everybody!

Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the same problem: how to configure netmail areas?
Can I configure two netmail areas one for each network?

Thanks for your help




Pasquale


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Hello Pasquale,

Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the same problem: how to configure netmail areas? Can I configure two netmail
areas one for each network?

If you want a netmail base per net create them and add the AKA to use to the "Net Address" in the msg areas config.

If you leave the "Net Address" to the default (0:0/0) the netmail area will work for all you AKA's and nets.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello Al!

23 Jul 22 12:49, you wrote to me:

Hello Pasquale,

Hi everyone, sorry for my petulant question but I still have the
same
problem: how to configure netmail areas? Can I configure two
netmail areas one for each network?

If you want a netmail base per net create them and add the AKA to use
to the "Net Address" in the msg areas config.

If you leave the "Net Address" to the default (0:0/0) the netmail area will work for all you AKA's and nets.

Thanks for the help but my problem is different; I read messages from golded and the netmails I write there for some reason do not arrive even though they are sent. I'm afraid the problem is in the configuration of the golded area generated by mystic.

Best Regards


Pasquale


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Hi,

Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

Thanks,
Per

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Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

You can do it either way, whatever works best for you.

If you want to use a single netmail area don't set an AKA.

If you want a netmail area per AKA set your AKA for each area. You'll need a netmail base for each zone you are in.

I just use one netmail area.

There should be no export to nodes in your netmail base.

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|02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10Al |02said the following...

Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just on Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

You can do it either way, whatever works best for you.

If you want to use a single netmail area don't set an AKA.

If you want a netmail area per AKA set your AKA for each area. You'll
need a netmail base for each zone you are in.

I just use one netmail area.

There should be no export to nodes in your netmail base.

Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this up, I made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netmail area?

pos

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Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this up, I made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netmail area?

I'm not sure if Mystic can do this but GoldED can.

Mutil has an option to export the message areas to a format golded can import so that might work for you.

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On 09 Feb 2023, pos said the following...

Hi,

Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

Thanks,
Per

... Everyone smiles in the same language.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
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Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short version of my netmail area's config:

Name: Netmail
Base Type: Netmail
Newsgroup: Netmail
QWK Name: NETMAIL
Echo Tag: NETMAIL
FIle Name: netmail
Path: /home/user/mystic/msgs
List ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Read ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Post ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Sysop ACS: s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)

Net Address: 0:0/0 (Local Address)
Export To: 3 node(s)

That should get you started. Take note on the last one above, you're exporting to every uplink's individual address for each network with AKA matching. And list, read, post, and sysop ACS should include every group that is an echomail network that includes a netmail area (g1 here is my Local areas, so not needed).

The key for me was to have the "group access" in the message area for netmail set to all of the groups that are going to have netmail (ie. s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)"

Let me know if you need anything else.

ogg
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On 2/9/2023 1:10 PM, ogg wrote to pos:

Hi,

Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just one
Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

Thanks,
Per

... Everyone smiles in the same language.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Phrenetic BBS (21:1/233)

Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short
version of my netmail area's config:

Name: Netmail
Base Type: Netmail
Newsgroup: Netmail
QWK Name: NETMAIL
Echo Tag: NETMAIL
FIle Name: netmail
Path: /home/user/mystic/msgs
List ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Read ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Post ACS: s20(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)
Sysop ACS: s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)

Net Address: 0:0/0 (Local Address)
Export To: 3 node(s)

That should get you started. Take note on the last one above, you're exporting
to every uplink's individual address for each network with AKA matching. And list, read, post, and sysop ACS should include every group that is an echomail
network that includes a netmail area (g1 here is my Local areas, so not needed).

The key for me was to have the "group access" in the message area for netmail
set to all of the groups that are going to have netmail (ie. s255(g2|g3|g4|g5|g6)"

Let me know if you need anything else.

ogg
Sysop, Altair IV BBS
altairiv.ddns.net:2323

Very informative, sir. Thanks for that.

Mike Dippel

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|02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10Al |02said the following...

Thanks. I'd like to go with just one netmail area. But when I set this u made several, is there a way to move those messages into my single netma area?

I'm not sure if Mystic can do this but GoldED can.

Mutil has an option to export the message areas to a format golded can import so that might work for you.

Seems it's not a major problem; when I follow the instructions from ogg, setting the groups in the access levels they seem to move "automatically". Nice.

pos

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|02On |1009 Feb 2023|02, |10ogg |02said the following...

On 09 Feb 2023, pos said the following...

Hi,
Does anyone have small writeup on how to set up Mystic if I cant just Netmail area (and not one for each FTN)?

Here's a snippet that I was given that helped me get my netmail into one area:

You're running the latest version, so there's no issue with one netmail area whatsoever. Since it's not letting me copy/paste, I can try to give you a short version of my netmail area's config:

[...snip...]
Great! Thank you very much for the writeup!

pos

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Great! Thank you very much for the writeup!

pos

... Nine times out of ten the statisticians are wrong

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Just glad I could pass on the help I received! That's what makes this forum great!

ogg
Sysop, Altair IV BBS
altairiv.ddns.net:2323

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