I am building a new message area script/mod for Mystic. I am very close to finish it, but i would like some beta testing and criticism :) The look & feel is a bit different than the normal/default one and i would like to know if users like it and perhaps other features they would like to see.

You can test it in my board (andr01d.zapto.org:99999) or if you want to spend some time and trouble your head, i can send it to you, to install it on your board and test it.

Whoever tests it, gonna get a free copy... the others have to pay... :)


nah... just kidding... when it's ready it will be released freely to fsx. :)


Some explanations...

The keys are chosen to be easy to use/navigate the script/area even when connected to a bbs via connect bot, at least the main key shortcuts.

The quote function in the message editor is a bit weird, cause there is no feature/function to import text for quoting in the default editor.

A base to marked as "Read" you have to press the A key. This will change when two new MPY functions will be applied to Mystic as g00r00 promised :)

In bases with a lot of messages you will notice a lag in opening the base.
This is because the script reads all messages into memory. I did that in purpose, but i have doubts on keeping it that way. My problem/question is,
that if i read the messages one by one as you navigate through them, i have to keep the JAM base file open... if something happens at that time,there is a small chance to corrupt the file. Another way would be to open the JAM base, read the msg and close it immediately, but also this has a disadvantage of too many read/writes on the disk and if you use a RPi it may limit the life of the sdcard. I am troubled on how to implement this... how the default Index Reader does it? Perhaps i should use the same way.

Anyway... any feedback is appreciated. Thanx.

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In bases with a lot of messages you will notice a lag in opening the
base. This is because the script reads all messages into memory. I did that in purpose, but i have doubts on keeping it that way. My problem/question is, that if i read the messages one by one as you navigate through them, i have to keep the JAM base file open... if something happens at that time,there is a small chance to corrupt the file. Another way would be to open the JAM base, read the msg and close
it immediately, but also this has a disadvantage of too many read/writes on the disk and if you use a RPi it may limit the life of the sdcard. I
am troubled on how to implement this... how the default Index Reader
does it? Perhaps i should use the same way.

A Simple-Minded persons thought: Instead of reading in the entire base into memory, and instead of 1 message read in at a time causing too many reads... Why not read in a "Block" of messages at a time and maintain a Pointer as to where the "Block" resides in the database????

Just a silly idea... May not be possible,

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A Simple-Minded persons thought: Instead of reading in the entire base in memory, and instead of 1 message read in at a time causing too many reads. Why not read in a "Block" of messages at a time and maintain a Pointer as where the "Block" resides in the database????
Just a silly idea... May not be possible,

Not silly at all... and it is possible. Probably the best solution, that combines all pros. :)

That's why i asked this in public, cause sometimes when you are stuck with something, even if the obvious is in front of you, you can't see it :)

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Not silly at all... and it is possible. Probably the best solution, that combines all pros. :)
That's why i asked this in public, cause sometimes when you are stuck
with something, even if the obvious is in front of you, you can't see
it :)

Very true. I find if I'm stuck on a programming issue, I sleep on it and it somehow comes to me...

I would think that reading in lets say blocks of 25 messages at a time, would be easy to manage by using pointers (wherestart, whereend) for the database "Placeholder"...

Glad I could help in a small way...

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I am building a new message area script/mod for Mystic. I am very close
to finish it, but i would like some beta testing and criticism :) The
look & feel is a bit different than the normal/default one and i would like to know if users like it and perhaps other features they would like to see.

I like it! How's performance compare to the traditional mystic message
reading screen?

This would be really cool (it already is, but cooler even) if we had more
than default 80x25 screen layouts. Maybe a smaller list view, or a way to toggle how many messages you want to see in list view vs in the actual
message text box?

Whoever tests it, gonna get a free copy... the others have to pay... :)

Hehe :)

Nice work as usual, man.

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This would be really cool (it already is, but cooler even) if we had more than default 80x25 screen layouts. Maybe a smaller list view, or a way to toggle how many messages you want to see in list view vs in the actual message text box?

Just use the { } keys ;) you can resize the two areas, but for now it doesn't save the setting, so next time you have to re-arrange it. but i will implement this feature also.

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Just use the { } keys ;) you can resize the two areas, but for now it doesn't save the setting, so next time you have to re-arrange it. but i will implement this feature also.

Sweet :) I like it.

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The quote function in the message editor is a bit weird, cause there is
no feature/function to import text for quoting in the default editor.

In the editor you should be able to write "msgtmp" in the node's temp
directory and it will take that as quote data.

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In the editor you should be able to write "msgtmp" in the node's temp directory and it will take that as quote data.

I don't understand this. What do you mean? Can you give an example?

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Got some time last evening to set this up & import my setup into ArcaOS. You are a genius! While not everything worked...the parts which did were just
like I was in my Windows/RPi versions. Even compiled items in the scripts folder with MPLC under 4OS/2 and the stuff worked. Played Blackjack & goofed around with much everything else...including the Files section.

I am extremely thankful you have put the time into this and how useful it was to test. If you ever get the time to finish this & the FreeBSD versions...there's another option to bring others into the fold. You have outdid yourself on this version.

Again...thank you for spending what little time you do have on this version. You need anything again...please let me know.

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In the editor you should be able to write "msgtmp" in the node's temp directory and it will take that as quote data.

I don't understand this. What do you mean? Can you give an example?

If you are trying to make quote data available in the message editor, write
to a file named "msgtmp" in the node's temp directory that contains the quote data that you want to be selectable from the quote window. Do this before
you call the editor.

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Got some time last evening to set this up & import my setup into ArcaOS. You are a genius! While not everything worked...the parts which did were just like I was in my Windows/RPi versions. Even compiled items in the scripts folder with MPLC under 4OS/2 and the stuff worked. Played Blackjack & goofed around with much everything else...including the
Files section.

Thanks for the feedback and I am glad to see at least someone tried to play around with it after the time I put into making that! :)

I will try to spend some more time on it in the future but I don't know when I will get more completed. There is still so much to do and who knows what challenges I will run into next!

it was to test. If you ever get the time to finish this & the FreeBSD versions...there's another option to bring others into the fold. You have

I am not opposed to a BSD version next. I suspect it would be a lot easier to do than OS/2!

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Blackjack & goofed around with much everything else...including the Files section.

Thanks for the feedback and I am glad to see at least someone tried to play around with it after the time I put into making that! :)

The only thing was when I was going to play with it. Had to learn how to have it access an SD Card with a USB reader. Once I had that figured out...was
just a matter of time before I could spend the time I wanted to play around with it. You really have outdone yourself with this version. It runs as fast
or faster than other versions I have used.

I will try to spend some more time on it in the future but I don't know when I will get more completed. There is still so much to do and who

Having gotten this far was amazing with as much as you have on your plate.
Once you do get it completed...I may be the first one to get it running full time. This way...you will have others get excited about it as well. The whole OS/2 crowd will also be following it on the FidoNet echo.

I am not opposed to a BSD version next. I suspect it would be a lot easier to do than OS/2!

I agree! With all of the documentation available with standards which have
been locked down for years...you don't have to go looking back 10-20 years
for information...if it would even be available.

Thanks again for the reply.

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Re: Re: OS/2 test version...
By: g00r00 to Phoobar on Sun Mar 15 2020 06:59 am

I am not opposed to a BSD version next.

I know I like that idea!

Hope to look forward to it...

-= Havok =-

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If you are trying to make quote data available in the message editor, write to a file named "msgtmp" in the node's temp directory that
contains the quote data that you want to be selectable from the quote window. Do this before you call the editor.

Ahhh... OK, now i got it. Thanx!!!

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garycrunk wrote to xqtr <=-

A Simple-Minded persons thought: Instead of reading in the entire base into memory, and instead of 1 message read in at a time causing too
many reads... Why not read in a "Block" of messages at a time and
maintain a Pointer as to where the "Block" resides in the database????

Or, better still, use offline mail :)

... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
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