Is there a way to import RSS feeds directly into a message base?
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Lupine Furmen wrote to All <=-

Is there a way to import RSS feeds directly into a message base?

It can be done, but is difficult/messy. The issue is that feeds
generally come in HTML/XML format, and all that formatting garbage
needs to be removed before the remaining text can be posted into a
message base. That's the trick - using whatever tools/utilities
needed to strip that stuff out. On Linux I've had some success
using tools like sed/awk and bash scripts, but it takes a lot of
effort (at least for me) to figure it out.

I'm currently working on this very thing to try and auto-post some
articles from a hockey site into a FidoNet echo. So far it's
proving to be quite a challenge.



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Hello Gamgee,

I'm currently working on this very thing to try and auto-post some articles from a hockey site into a FidoNet echo. So far it's
proving to be quite a challenge.

I read that you were doing that so I wish you success.

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish I knew how he
did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files that came with Synchronet but
I don't really know.

Ttyl :-),
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Re: RSS Feeds
By: Al to Gamgee on Sat Apr 18 2020 10:23:32

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish I knew

how he

did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files that came with

Synchronet but

I don't really know.

I wrote a thing a long time ago to import an RSS or Atom feed into a Synchronet
message base. That's what he was using (I recall helping him get it set up).

I'm not sure how rich Mystic's Python API is wrt message area stuff, but if it provides you with a way to post a message, then I'm sure a similar tool could be written there.

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Hello echicken,

I wrote a thing a long time ago to import an RSS or Atom feed into a Synchronet message base. That's what he was using (I recall helping
him get it set up).

Gamgee is running Synchronet so may be able to use the same thing.

I'm not sure how rich Mystic's Python API is wrt message area stuff,
but if it provides you with a way to post a message, then I'm sure a similar tool could be written there.

It doesn't work so well here on my slackware box for reasons that are unknown to me. I suppose and hope it works better on debian / Ubuntu but I don't know.

When I first started hearing of python on Mystic it worked OK for me but not now and I don't know why.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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echicken wrote to Al <=-

Re: RSS Feeds
By: Al to Gamgee on Sat Apr 18 2020 10:23:32

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish
I knew how he did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files
that came with Synchronet but I don't really know.

I wrote a thing a long time ago to import an RSS or Atom feed
into a Synchronet message base. That's what he was using (I
recall helping him get it set up).

Ooooooohhhh.... I would be very interested in that. Is this
thing still available? Is it included in Synchronet somehow? If
you don't mind I'd sure like more info about it! If it's just a
script or something and you're willing to share, could you email
it to me at: gamgees (at) gmail dot com ? Thank you!



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Bugz wrote to 3LUPINE FURMEN <=-

Is there a way to import RSS feeds directly into a message base?
-!-

Yes. Bug_ubuntu in the bot channel does this all the time.

It's just a SMOP. (Small Matter Of Programming.) <GRIN>

Basically, use mutil to load messages into the message base.

I have a silly python3 script that reads the RSS feed, mashes it
up and outputs what mutil needs.

Ok, I actually use feedparser, and it does 99% of the RSS work
for me.

The other "challenge" is getting HTML into nice text output.
I accomplish that with a simple call to elinks:

text = check_output( ["elinks", "-dump", "0",
"-dump-width", "72", "--no-references",
"--no-numbering", "./rss_feed.html",
universal_newlines=True, shell=False)

This takes html and makes it nice 72 column format. It
understands (HTML) center, word wrap, tables, etc.
Elinks is a text based browser after all. ;)

I went a little crazy with the mutil ini part, I use jinja2
(template) to generate it.

You're welcome to a copy of it. I'd attach it here, but I'm not
sure how well that would work.

Hi Bugz! Very interesting. If you don't mind sharing, I'd love
to have a look at what you've got. If you're willing you could
email me at: gamgees (at) gmail dot com . Thanks!



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Al wrote to Gamgee <=-

I'm currently working on this very thing to try and auto-post some articles from a hockey site into a FidoNet echo. So far it's
proving to be quite a challenge.

I read that you were doing that so I wish you success.

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish
I knew how he did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files
that came with Synchronet but I don't really know.

Yes, I'm trying to revive that hockey echo on Fido, which is one
that Bill used to feed. I saw echicken's reply and am hoping he can
provide some assistance. Thanks for the encouragement and help!



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Re: Re: RSS Feeds
By: Gamgee to echicken on Sat Apr 18 2020 15:37:00

Ooooooohhhh.... I would be very interested in that. Is this
thing still available? Is it included in Synchronet somehow? If

exec/web-feed-importer.js

I think/hope there are some comments at the top of the file re: how to set it up; I don't remember much about it at this point.

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Bugz wrote to 9GAMGEE <=-

Interesting. It shows the TO with a number in front of it. And the
subject is shifted over by one character.

Seems like I've seen that before with bluewave. :(

Anyway, be kind to yourself.

Take care,
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echicken wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: RSS Feeds
By: Gamgee to echicken on Sat Apr 18 2020 15:37:00

Ooooooohhhh.... I would be very interested in that. Is this
thing still available? Is it included in Synchronet somehow? If

exec/web-feed-importer.js

I think/hope there are some comments at the top of the file re:
how to set it up; I don't remember much about it at this point.

Thank you! I'll check that out, appreciate it!



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Bugz wrote to 9GAMGEE <=-

You're welcome to a copy of it. I'd attach it here, but I'm not
sure how well that would work.

Hi Bugz! Very interesting. If you don't mind sharing, I'd love
to have a look at what you've got. If you're willing you could

Ok, email is away. Ask if you've got questions.
I added some line by line comments.

Thank you, I've received them. Look forward to going through it,
sure do appreciate that!


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Hello bugz,

Interesting. It shows the TO with a number in front of it. And the subject is shifted over by one character.

Seems like I've seen that before with bluewave. :(

I think that's a Y2K bug in bluewave but there is a fix for that. If anyone needs it just hollar and I'll send it your way.

Ttyl :-),
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On 04-18-20 15:46, Gamgee wrote to Al <=-

Yes, I'm trying to revive that hockey echo on Fido, which is one
that Bill used to feed. I saw echicken's reply and am hoping he can provide some assistance. Thanks for the encouragement and help!

I'm gathering from this that SportNet is now dead? I hadn't heard from Bill for ages. I took over the Australian/NZ hub around the time he disappeared, and nothing ever came down the pipe, even though I was using the same session details.


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On 19 Apr 2020 at 12:48p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

I'm gathering from this that SportNet is now dead? I hadn't heard from Bill for ages. I took over the Australian/NZ hub around the time he disappeared, and nothing ever came down the pipe, even though I was
using the same session details.

I think so. I have not heard from him for ages and even after trying to
contact him via several means it's been radio silence. :(

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On 19 Apr 2020, Vk3jed said the following...

I'm gathering from this that SportNet is now dead? I hadn't heard from Bill for ages. I took over the Australian/NZ hub around the time he disappeared, and nothing ever came down the pipe, even though I was
using the same session details.

The last I heard, Bill had some issues where construction workers had caught one of the lines to his house. I don't remember, but I think it was power.
That caused some major issues with the computers, even once power was
restored. I think he was in a battle with the insurance companies for replacement hardware.

Of course that was last summer/fall, so I'm not sure what is happening at
this point.

For now, I've actually removed SportNet from my system. If/when he does
return, I can always add it back.


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On 04-19-20 15:09, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 19 Apr 2020 at 12:48p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

I'm gathering from this that SportNet is now dead? I hadn't heard from Bill for ages. I took over the Australian/NZ hub around the time he disappeared, and nothing ever came down the pipe, even though I was
using the same session details.

I think so. I have not heard from him for ages and even after trying to contact him via several means it's been radio silence. :(

Yeah, that's a bummer. :( Even though a lot of it was RSS feeds and Usenet, it was something different to the tech heavy nature of most BBS nets these days.
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On 04-18-20 21:13, Black Panther wrote to Vk3jed <=-

The last I heard, Bill had some issues where construction workers had caught one of the lines to his house. I don't remember, but I think it
was power. That caused some major issues with the computers, even once power was restored. I think he was in a battle with the insurance companies for replacement hardware.

Ahh, OK. That's a bummer.

Of course that was last summer/fall, so I'm not sure what is happening
at this point.

So at least 6-9 months ago.

For now, I've actually removed SportNet from my system. If/when he does return, I can always add it back.

I'm leaving my system setup. I may change access to the group to sysops only. Then all it will take to come out of hibernation if/when Bill gets back is to make sure his feed works and remove the sysop level access barrier.

To take it off my system means tearing down a whole heep of feeds and AKAs, which I'm not prepared to do at this stage.


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On 04-18-20 19:15, Al wrote to bugz <=-

Hello bugz,

Interesting. It shows the TO with a number in front of it. And the subject is shifted over by one character.

Seems like I've seen that before with bluewave. :(

I think that's a Y2K bug in bluewave but there is a fix for that. If anyone needs it just hollar and I'll send it your way.

Google found me Y2K pre-patched versions of Bluewave for all OSs (DOS, DOS/386 and OS/2). They were on a BBS somewhere that had them available by anonymous FTP/web.


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Yes. Bug_ubuntu in the bot channel does this all the time.

It's just a SMOP. (Small Matter Of Programming.) <GRIN>
Basically, use mutil to load messages into the message base.
I have a silly python3 script that reads the RSS feed, mashes it up
and outputs what mutil needs.
Ok, I actually use feedparser, and it does 99% of the RSS work for me.

Well I'm running on Windows 7U. So I can't use the linux fixes. And I don't think that win7 had the LSL like win10 does.
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exec/web-feed-importer.js
I think/hope there are some comments at the top of the file re: how to
set it up; I don't remember much about it at this point.

I just looked at the file, and yes, it is very well documented.
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Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

Yes, I'm trying to revive that hockey echo on Fido, which is one
that Bill used to feed. I saw echicken's reply and am hoping he can provide some assistance. Thanks for the encouragement and help!

I'm gathering from this that SportNet is now dead? I hadn't
heard from Bill for ages. I took over the Australian/NZ hub
around the time he disappeared, and nothing ever came down the
pipe, even though I was using the same session details.

I don't know the status of SportNet. When I inquired about the
status of the (NHL) hockey echo, which had suddenly gone quiet,
there were mixed reports about what was going on. Somebody had
said that Bill (McGarrity) had hardware problems for a while, but
as it dragged on for months that became unlikely. Eventually I
heard that Bill had passed away, although I'm not sure even that
was ever fully confirmed. I think that's probably the case though
because nobody has been able to reach him. So anyway, I'm trying
to revive the semi-automated posting of news articles into that
echo.



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Re: Re: RSS Feeds
By: echicken to Gamgee on Sat Apr 18 2020 04:52 pm

Re: Re: RSS Feeds
By: Gamgee to echicken on Sat Apr 18 2020 15:37:00

Ooooooohhhh.... I would be very interested in that. Is this
thing still available? Is it included in Synchronet somehow? If

exec/web-feed-importer.js

I think/hope there are some comments at the top of the file re: how to set it up; I don't remember much about it at this point.

Yes!!! I've got it working and all seems to be fine. Will know for sure tomorrow morning when it runs automatically for the first time... :)

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On 18 Apr 2020, echicken said the following...

I wrote a thing a long time ago to import an RSS or Atom feed into a Synchronet message base. That's what he was using (I recall helping him get it set up).

Do you happen to have that available on your board? I'm already using synch
to pull in newgroups that I export to a private network that only includes my Mystic board. I'm also interested in pulling RSS feeds into a couple of
message bases.

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On 18 Apr 2020, echicken said the following...

exec/web-feed-importer.js

I think/hope there are some comments at the top of the file re: how to
set it up; I don't remember much about it at this point.

Thanks. Actually have a day off tomorrow so I will take a look at it.

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On 04-19-20 07:50, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't know the status of SportNet. When I inquired about the
status of the (NHL) hockey echo, which had suddenly gone quiet,
there were mixed reports about what was going on. Somebody had
said that Bill (McGarrity) had hardware problems for a while, but
as it dragged on for months that became unlikely. Eventually I
heard that Bill had passed away, although I'm not sure even that
was ever fully confirmed. I think that's probably the case though
because nobody has been able to reach him. So anyway, I'm trying
to revive the semi-automated posting of news articles into that
echo.

Well, if Bill's no longer with us, we need someone in the middle to be a new hub. I have Australia/NZ hanging off my hub here, so that part of the net is intact. Maybe let's revive the net. But I would like to see one change (will be a tall order), but have areas with more discussion, alongside the gated traffic.

I used to read the Athletics echo and cast a casual eye across the AFL one.

First port of call, however, would to try and determine Bill's status.


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Where did Bill live? I found several obits for a Bill McGarrity.
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On 19 Apr 2020, Lupine Furmen said the following...

Where did Bill live? I found several obits for a Bill McGarrity.

Toms River, New Jersey

(I just checked the nodelist) ;)


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Where did Bill live? I found several obits for a Bill McGarrity.

Toms River, New Jersey

ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River, NJ.
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On 04-20-20 04:00, Lupine Furmen wrote to Black Panther <=-

Where did Bill live? I found several obits for a Bill McGarrity.

Toms River, New Jersey

ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River, NJ.

Hmm, it's become a mystery. How far back did you look?


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On 18 Apr 2020, echicken said the following...

exec/web-feed-importer.js

Just set it up. Works like a charm.

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ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River, NJ.

Hmm, it's become a mystery. How far back did you look?

Several years.

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On 22 Apr 2020, Lupine Furmen said the following...

ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River

Hmm, it's become a mystery. How far back did you look?

Several years.

Found one for an 83-year-old Bill McGarrity in Tom's River but there's also another in his 60s (probably the one in question) that also lives there.

Either way Bill posted a comment in the Front Door facebook community
recently.

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Captain Obvious wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-

ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River

Hmm, it's become a mystery. How far back did you look?

Several years.

Found one for an 83-year-old Bill McGarrity in Tom's River but
there's also another in his 60s (probably the one in question)
that also lives there.

Either way Bill posted a comment in the Front Door facebook
community recently.

Yep, that's him for sure. I've requested to join that FD page and
hope to engage him in a conversation when able. Thanks.



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On Sat 18-Apr-2020 3:46p, Gamgee@21:2/138.0 said to Al:

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish
I knew how he did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files
that came with Synchronet but I don't really know.

Yes, I'm trying to revive that hockey echo on Fido, which is one
that Bill used to feed. I saw echicken's reply and am hoping he can
provide some assistance. Thanks for the encouragement and help!

Whatever happened to Bill? Last I heard he had some electrical issues, then poof, he dissappeared. :-(

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On 04-22-20 10:53, Lupine Furmen wrote to Vk3jed <=-

ok, I'm not finding any Obits for Bill McGarrity from Toms River, NJ.

Hmm, it's become a mystery. How far back did you look?

Several years.

No dramas. Apparently, he is posting in some echos.


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On 04-22-20 18:37, Gamgee wrote to Captain Obvious <=-

Yep, that's him for sure. I've requested to join that FD page and
hope to engage him in a conversation when able. Thanks.

Let me know how you go. :)


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Mickey wrote to Gamgee <=-

Bill used to do that in sport net and a couple fido areas. I wish
I knew how he did that but I suspect he used supplied .js files
that came with Synchronet but I don't really know.

Yes, I'm trying to revive that hockey echo on Fido, which is one
that Bill used to feed. I saw echicken's reply and am hoping he can provide some assistance. Thanks for the encouragement and help!

Whatever happened to Bill? Last I heard he had some electrical
issues, then poof, he dissappeared. :-(

Nobody seems to know... He's been spotted on Facebook recently
and attempts are underway to get in touch with him.



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